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01.20.2015

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We'll finally be able to see Batman and Superman battle it out on the big screen when BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE is released next year, and in an interview with the Spanish website Los Andes Diario, choreographer Guillermo Grispo talked a little about the highly anticipated fight between the two superheroes. Grispo also says the Batman fight scenes will be better than the ones in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy.

On how he felt preparing the Batman vs Superman fights:

I was fascinated. I’m telling you, for me, I like both of the characters, but Batman I really love. In 2007 I almost worked on the second part of Christopher Nolan’s trilogy, but ultimately questions about the contract were not resolved and it all fell apart. Luckily, afterwards Zack brought Batman into this project, making it an origin of the Justice League. Which means being in charge of the entire franchise and all the sequels that will be Zack’s next projects.

On how Batman's brawls will be different compared to the Christopher Nolan movies.

Now Batman is going to fight the way I’ve always dreamed seeing him fight… he’s a character so prepared in martial arts that you can do a lot of things with him, but filmmakers usually don’t go all the way with it. Even in the last Nolan movies the action scenes aren’t very good from a technical, martial arts point of view to things like choreography, filming, bad camera movements…But hey, don’t get me wrong, Nolan is great, my hats off to him. He makes fascinating stories, but I think that he did not pay too much attention to the fights. Those are the kind of details that Zack, being so physical himself, loves preparing. I think there’s going to be a big difference when you see these Batman fights in comparison to the previous ones.

So what can Guillermo Grispo tell us about the story?

Look, at Warner Bros., they are very strict, so I can’t say much, but it’s no surprise if I say Batman and Superman come face-to-face in the movie. It’s one of the most important sequences and I was actively involved in the design of the fight: the exchange of punches and the physical movement were put together with my partner Ryan Watson. There’s a thought that Batman has no chance, that the other [Superman] will squash him like a bug. But when you see the movie, and how it all comes out, there’s a very intelligent explanation as to why they would have a firsthand confrontation though it seems to be totally to Batman’s disadvantage.

On what he has to be careful about when preparing fight scenes:

A lot of things… You can come and say “well, now I want to hit against that window and I want to break it” and you’re told “No, no, stop!”, because you can’t turn the camera here or there because of the lighting, or because there isn’t a digital extension prepared for a certain point. For example, imagine a fight in Gotham exteriors: I say “well, on this scene I want an angle looking upwards when he’s kicking”, and I’m told “no, look, if you look upwards that take will cost the production $80,000 more because we will have to add the digital extension from the buildings to the clouds, so try something else because it is cheaper” (laughs).

As much as I love Nolan's Batman flicks, I do think some of the fight scenes were a little weak, and I can't wait to see him kicking all sorts of ass in the Zack Snyder film. It's been rumored the first trailer will be released next month, and hopefully it will provide us with at least a glimpse of the epic Bats vs Supes fight.

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE opens on March 25, 2016.

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10:53PM on 01/20/2015
I know this is a movie site, but if some of you are having trouble understanding how batman can fight superman then you should seriously consider reading some of the more popular comics/novels. It has happened many times in many different variations. Do not limit yourselves to just the movies, doing so will also limit your views of these characters.
I know this is a movie site, but if some of you are having trouble understanding how batman can fight superman then you should seriously consider reading some of the more popular comics/novels. It has happened many times in many different variations. Do not limit yourselves to just the movies, doing so will also limit your views of these characters.
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9:28PM on 01/20/2015

It's still silly to think of them in a fight....

But I'm happy that they are finally going to give us the Batman from the animated films where he can fight with the big guys. I loved Nolan's films, but they were so grounded that it barely looked like he knew how to fight at all (albeit mostly because of the costume limitations).

But seriously, even the under-powered Superman from MoS moved faster than the human eye could see. He's basically Flash with super strength and virtual invulnerability. Unless you take away part of his power
But I'm happy that they are finally going to give us the Batman from the animated films where he can fight with the big guys. I loved Nolan's films, but they were so grounded that it barely looked like he knew how to fight at all (albeit mostly because of the costume limitations).

But seriously, even the under-powered Superman from MoS moved faster than the human eye could see. He's basically Flash with super strength and virtual invulnerability. Unless you take away part of his power first, all the karate in the world isn't going to make him flinch.
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6:09PM on 01/20/2015
I have a feeling that batman is going to try and push superman to his breaking point again and see if he really is a cold blooded killer. He must be testing the waters and wondering if he is a threat to humanity or a saviour. So looking forward to this movie!
I have a feeling that batman is going to try and push superman to his breaking point again and see if he really is a cold blooded killer. He must be testing the waters and wondering if he is a threat to humanity or a saviour. So looking forward to this movie!
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5:03PM on 01/20/2015
Batman Begins is understandable, the sequences were impossible to keep up with since every half second we saw the scene at a different angle but the next two, are you kidding me? You saw far more movements without cuts and the situation was far more exciting because of it, in Rises Batman was more sluggish but that was his character, Bruce didn't prepare himself and was over confident. Zack Snyder knows how to make a good looking movie and he's been around the fight scenes long enough to know
Batman Begins is understandable, the sequences were impossible to keep up with since every half second we saw the scene at a different angle but the next two, are you kidding me? You saw far more movements without cuts and the situation was far more exciting because of it, in Rises Batman was more sluggish but that was his character, Bruce didn't prepare himself and was over confident. Zack Snyder knows how to make a good looking movie and he's been around the fight scenes long enough to know what's good and what's not but little comments like this, though they shouldn't, they make me worried sometimes, luckily Grispo doesn't have the final say.
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3:05PM on 01/20/2015
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the Bane v. Batman sewer fight in TDKR.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the Bane v. Batman sewer fight in TDKR.
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9:32PM on 01/20/2015
Not in the minority, but from a marital arts standpoint, it was an incredibly lame fight. Batman should be a 6'4, 220lb Jet Li. In Nolan's films, he mostly used his suit to absorb punishment and just punched or used elbows in fights.
Not in the minority, but from a marital arts standpoint, it was an incredibly lame fight. Batman should be a 6'4, 220lb Jet Li. In Nolan's films, he mostly used his suit to absorb punishment and just punched or used elbows in fights.
5:12AM on 01/21/2015
If you want a good fight: Batman ~ Under The Red Hood
If you want a good fight: Batman ~ Under The Red Hood
3:02PM on 01/20/2015

it will have to do with the atmosphere...

I'm telling ya, we were already given his weakness in the first movie; atmosphere. I don't think it will have to come down to kryptonite. I think that Batman will find a way to adjust the atmosphere to the same way it was on the ship in MOS. It only took a couple minutes on that ship and Supes was coughing blood. Batman will lure supes to some kind of closed area in which he can manipulate the atmosphere and then Supes will be fighting his body's rejection of the atmosphere and Batman at the
I'm telling ya, we were already given his weakness in the first movie; atmosphere. I don't think it will have to come down to kryptonite. I think that Batman will find a way to adjust the atmosphere to the same way it was on the ship in MOS. It only took a couple minutes on that ship and Supes was coughing blood. Batman will lure supes to some kind of closed area in which he can manipulate the atmosphere and then Supes will be fighting his body's rejection of the atmosphere and Batman at the same time. No Kryptonite needed.
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2:48PM on 01/20/2015
Most of the fans are saying the same thing: why doesn't Superman just fry Bats? Because he is not like that. It's not in his nature. He will always be the Goody 2 Shoes. On the other hand, Bats would "cheat" in a uneven fight.
PS: Oh yeah! Nolan fight choreography was so fast cut and shaky.....Oh Lordy!!!!!
Most of the fans are saying the same thing: why doesn't Superman just fry Bats? Because he is not like that. It's not in his nature. He will always be the Goody 2 Shoes. On the other hand, Bats would "cheat" in a uneven fight.
PS: Oh yeah! Nolan fight choreography was so fast cut and shaky.....Oh Lordy!!!!!
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2:58PM on 01/20/2015
Except that this version of Superman is not a goody 2 shoes. Killing is completely in his nature, more so than Batman. This Superman breaks necks, even Batman wouldn't cross that line.
Except that this version of Superman is not a goody 2 shoes. Killing is completely in his nature, more so than Batman. This Superman breaks necks, even Batman wouldn't cross that line.
5:26PM on 01/20/2015
Yeah but Batman has a "no killing" rule. superman has never had such a rule and he killed Zod in the comics as well. That's something most people don't seem to get. Superman might be the "boy scout" and Batman the "dark knight", but the that irony of which one kills and which one doesn't is important to their relationship and why they clash
Yeah but Batman has a "no killing" rule. superman has never had such a rule and he killed Zod in the comics as well. That's something most people don't seem to get. Superman might be the "boy scout" and Batman the "dark knight", but the that irony of which one kills and which one doesn't is important to their relationship and why they clash
2:04AM on 01/21/2015
Superman did not kill Zod in the comics. People keep pointing out this one old, non-canon storyline (which is a major stretch), but that counts about as much as vampire Batman does. Actually Vampire Batman counts more because he is kind-of canon alternate world Batman.

Why Batman and Superman clash is because Batman is willing to cross lines, and Superman refuses. Batman even said it before about Superman "In his core he is essentially a good guy... ...I am not". Batman is willing to be the
Superman did not kill Zod in the comics. People keep pointing out this one old, non-canon storyline (which is a major stretch), but that counts about as much as vampire Batman does. Actually Vampire Batman counts more because he is kind-of canon alternate world Batman.

Why Batman and Superman clash is because Batman is willing to cross lines, and Superman refuses. Batman even said it before about Superman "In his core he is essentially a good guy... ...I am not". Batman is willing to be the bad guy for the greater good, Superman will never cross that line. In all the alternate stories where Superman does cross that line he goes insane. Man of Steel ruined this dynamic. Superman and Batman are both dark characters willing to cross lines for the greater good. Superman is willing to kill. There is no longer that ying and yang, that push and pull relationship between these two. If this movie adds that in, it will be forced and completely unnatural to the story.
5:10AM on 01/21/2015
C'mon , I don't think they gonna go for such a dark Superman. You saw MOS. He killed Zod, just because he had to choose between the humans and "the baddie" kriptonian . Just because that! That was the only reason. I think that is the only circumstance in which Supes would kill.
C'mon , I don't think they gonna go for such a dark Superman. You saw MOS. He killed Zod, just because he had to choose between the humans and "the baddie" kriptonian . Just because that! That was the only reason. I think that is the only circumstance in which Supes would kill.
1:24PM on 01/20/2015
Why does everyone seem to be overlooking the obvious. A fight between Batman and Superman would be like this. Batman punches Superman, Superman flicks his little pinky, Batman dies.

This whole concept of a regular Joe fighting Superman is ridiculous.
Why does everyone seem to be overlooking the obvious. A fight between Batman and Superman would be like this. Batman punches Superman, Superman flicks his little pinky, Batman dies.

This whole concept of a regular Joe fighting Superman is ridiculous.
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2:07PM on 01/20/2015
That's no regular Joe son. He's the god damn Batman! You better remember that, cuz next year you're gonna see a man of steel crumble.
That's no regular Joe son. He's the god damn Batman! You better remember that, cuz next year you're gonna see a man of steel crumble.
3:01PM on 01/20/2015
Every story written where these two fight, Batman ALWAYS wins. It's like a rule. Batman always beats Superman. The ending to this fight isn't even in question. Batman will win because everyone writes it like that.
Every story written where these two fight, Batman ALWAYS wins. It's like a rule. Batman always beats Superman. The ending to this fight isn't even in question. Batman will win because everyone writes it like that.
5:28PM on 01/20/2015
Also Batman is smarter than Superman. Everyone knows brains beat brawn
Also Batman is smarter than Superman. Everyone knows brains beat brawn
5:35PM on 01/20/2015
The point is that its impossible. You can beat Superman. But that doesn't stop Batman from trying. Straight up stubborn determination. It's impossible right? But what if it wasn't? What if there was a chance? Who could pull it off? Who would dare? A man? No. A Batman. We're talking about fictional characters. One that can't be hurt and one that can't lose. I'm betting on the bat. Because I like the character better than the big blue boy scout.
The point is that its impossible. You can beat Superman. But that doesn't stop Batman from trying. Straight up stubborn determination. It's impossible right? But what if it wasn't? What if there was a chance? Who could pull it off? Who would dare? A man? No. A Batman. We're talking about fictional characters. One that can't be hurt and one that can't lose. I'm betting on the bat. Because I like the character better than the big blue boy scout.
9:36PM on 01/20/2015
Batman isn't smarter than Superman. In the comics and animated films, Supes was educated by Jor-El and was hundreds of years more advanced than humans. Batman is a better tactician (which is probably what you were getting at).
Batman isn't smarter than Superman. In the comics and animated films, Supes was educated by Jor-El and was hundreds of years more advanced than humans. Batman is a better tactician (which is probably what you were getting at).
10:00PM on 01/20/2015
Yea yea yea
Basically you know more about ants than me
But I can split the atom

Batman will win
Yea yea yea
Basically you know more about ants than me
But I can split the atom

Batman will win
12:36PM on 01/20/2015
I'm only marginally excited for this fight scene. I know Snyder will make it look awesome, but kryptonite and Superman predictable reaction to it have been played out.
I'm only marginally excited for this fight scene. I know Snyder will make it look awesome, but kryptonite and Superman predictable reaction to it have been played out.
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12:29PM on 01/20/2015
Love how this guy pats himself on the back while bashing Nolan. Sorry but Nolan's action scenes were much better than Grispo's work on Legend of Hercules.

You know why Nolan's fights work? Because of the build up and emotion that goes into them. Because Nolan made the audience care about the fight. The fight itself is meaningless eye-candy.
Love how this guy pats himself on the back while bashing Nolan. Sorry but Nolan's action scenes were much better than Grispo's work on Legend of Hercules.

You know why Nolan's fights work? Because of the build up and emotion that goes into them. Because Nolan made the audience care about the fight. The fight itself is meaningless eye-candy.
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12:17PM on 01/20/2015

Awesome but no need to diss Nolan version!

Its Synder vision so of course it wont be like Nolans and no need to talk down Nolan version since his trilogy stands on its own. Now Bats will not win , remember Synder will add his own mix to the script so i think the fight will be stopped either by WW or the villian bringing them together. Knowing SYnder this movie will be visually stunning!
Its Synder vision so of course it wont be like Nolans and no need to talk down Nolan version since his trilogy stands on its own. Now Bats will not win , remember Synder will add his own mix to the script so i think the fight will be stopped either by WW or the villian bringing them together. Knowing SYnder this movie will be visually stunning!
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12:07PM on 01/20/2015

Finally Batman Kicks Ass

This is the one thing that has been missing from Batman in all his live action move adaptations. While they never showed his detective skills really either, they at least tried with the bullet recreation and tracking policemen in the Nolan adaptation. He is in the DC world the best hand to hand fighter outside of maybe Lady Shiva - who helps Batman rehab after Bane breaks his back and give him further instruction. Batman live action movies never really touched on that, mostly just relied on his
This is the one thing that has been missing from Batman in all his live action move adaptations. While they never showed his detective skills really either, they at least tried with the bullet recreation and tracking policemen in the Nolan adaptation. He is in the DC world the best hand to hand fighter outside of maybe Lady Shiva - who helps Batman rehab after Bane breaks his back and give him further instruction. Batman live action movies never really touched on that, mostly just relied on his stealth. Even Superman in one of the JL comics acknowledges that stripped of his powers he couldn't beat Batman (can't remember the issue). But I will say this dude does sound a little bitter, but he is right: Nolan's main focus is the psychological tone of Batman, not the physical one. I just hope they don't ditch the psychological fear of Batman just to make him an asskicker.
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11:42AM on 01/20/2015

Alright! More Product Placement and destruction of human lives!

Ugh, I cringed at all of the fight scenes on Man of Shit.

I can't wait to see what stores Superman and Batman fight in front of now. I wonder how many people they will kill in their battles too.

Ugh, I cringed at all of the fight scenes on Man of Shit.

I can't wait to see what stores Superman and Batman fight in front of now. I wonder how many people they will kill in their battles too.

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12:18PM on 01/20/2015
You really sound like a MArvel fan boy! Stop hating my friend the movies are fake and guess what people die on marvel flicks to..You ozing with hate..
You really sound like a MArvel fan boy! Stop hating my friend the movies are fake and guess what people die on marvel flicks to..You ozing with hate..
11:41AM on 01/20/2015

Yes, Christopher Nolan was better at the story than the fight scenes

I just hope Zack Snyder doesn't sacrifice the story to serve the fight scenes. But yes, I'm looking forward to seeing Batman and Superman trading blows in this movie.

As an aside, I really hope Warner/DC puts the Tower of Babel storyline on film. The idea of the Justice League's villains getting hold of Batman's secret files on his JLA partners is too good not to use.
I just hope Zack Snyder doesn't sacrifice the story to serve the fight scenes. But yes, I'm looking forward to seeing Batman and Superman trading blows in this movie.

As an aside, I really hope Warner/DC puts the Tower of Babel storyline on film. The idea of the Justice League's villains getting hold of Batman's secret files on his JLA partners is too good not to use.
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11:29AM on 01/20/2015
I don't hate the Nolan fights, I just found them a wee bit lacking. In the comics, Batman is an absolute martial arts master, I'm glad that Grispo recognizes that.
I don't hate the Nolan fights, I just found them a wee bit lacking. In the comics, Batman is an absolute martial arts master, I'm glad that Grispo recognizes that.
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11:10AM on 01/20/2015
Sounds like this guy is sour that Nolan didn't pick him for The Dark Knight movies. Nolan didn't want Batman dancing, he wanted Batman taking out people incredibly fast.

Also, why does this guy tiptoe around the fact that Batman wins? Everyone knows the story. Every time Batman fights Superman in the comics or in animation Batman wins.
Sounds like this guy is sour that Nolan didn't pick him for The Dark Knight movies. Nolan didn't want Batman dancing, he wanted Batman taking out people incredibly fast.

Also, why does this guy tiptoe around the fact that Batman wins? Everyone knows the story. Every time Batman fights Superman in the comics or in animation Batman wins.
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12:25PM on 01/20/2015
Does he always fight Superman with kryptonite to win?
Does he always fight Superman with kryptonite to win?
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10:55AM on 01/20/2015
I love Batman...he's all kind of cools...but that image above...he's just wearing his normal suit. Come the f**k on, seriously??? I mean, perhaps if he's got an armoured suit on, he'll get a few blows in but ultimately, Supes is just going to roll with the punches and take him down with one blow. Oh f**k it, just let Snyder loose with his slow mo fighting style...I've always enjoyed that - I'll let the implausibility of a straight out fight between these two lasting more than a minute or so
I love Batman...he's all kind of cools...but that image above...he's just wearing his normal suit. Come the f**k on, seriously??? I mean, perhaps if he's got an armoured suit on, he'll get a few blows in but ultimately, Supes is just going to roll with the punches and take him down with one blow. Oh f**k it, just let Snyder loose with his slow mo fighting style...I've always enjoyed that - I'll let the implausibility of a straight out fight between these two lasting more than a minute or so slide. :o)
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10:51AM on 01/20/2015

yup

fights in DK series were horribly shot, horribly choreographed, just plain horrible and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. The series was great in a lot of other ways but yeah happy we have someone extensively working on Batman's cinematic fighting. If you just look at the Arkham series, or any of the DC animated movies ('Under the Red Hood' in particular) you'll see how he's gotten the short stick movie-wise.
fights in DK series were horribly shot, horribly choreographed, just plain horrible and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. The series was great in a lot of other ways but yeah happy we have someone extensively working on Batman's cinematic fighting. If you just look at the Arkham series, or any of the DC animated movies ('Under the Red Hood' in particular) you'll see how he's gotten the short stick movie-wise.
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10:33AM on 01/20/2015
Anything has to be better then the choreographed fight scenes in the Dark Knight trilogy.

But the only way for the fight scenes to be split down the middle is if it's Superman and Batman wearing a Kryptonian suit.

But as a huge fan, I know the waiting sucks, but this film is going to be worth the wait.
Anything has to be better then the choreographed fight scenes in the Dark Knight trilogy.

But the only way for the fight scenes to be split down the middle is if it's Superman and Batman wearing a Kryptonian suit.

But as a huge fan, I know the waiting sucks, but this film is going to be worth the wait.
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10:53AM on 01/20/2015
Well, they said the movie is heavily inspired by 'Dark Knight Returns' so wouldn't be surprised if the smack down follows Batman's method from the page.
Well, they said the movie is heavily inspired by 'Dark Knight Returns' so wouldn't be surprised if the smack down follows Batman's method from the page.
10:30AM on 01/20/2015

This is why I maintain it might be one of the coolest movies ever!

Snyder will put the most badass Batman ever put on film and the fight scenes will likley blow most other superhero films out of the water. If nothing else the movie will do thst right and for that reason alone I'm glad Snyder is direcing.
Snyder will put the most badass Batman ever put on film and the fight scenes will likley blow most other superhero films out of the water. If nothing else the movie will do thst right and for that reason alone I'm glad Snyder is direcing.
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11:20AM on 01/20/2015
Just so long as he shows some restraint. Personally I don't want another CGI Metropolis apocolypse. I was snoring in the last act of Man of Steel. Could be great. Could be a computer game.
Just so long as he shows some restraint. Personally I don't want another CGI Metropolis apocolypse. I was snoring in the last act of Man of Steel. Could be great. Could be a computer game.
10:25AM on 01/20/2015

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Maybe if supes knows his own strength he will morally not allow himself to hit a human therefore the fight may be more of a Batman throwing the punches and supes just taking them - it would be an interesting dynamic if batman and Luther were involved and Luther provides the suit to batman and then eventually supes and batman figure out Luther is a cunt and then team up
Maybe if supes knows his own strength he will morally not allow himself to hit a human therefore the fight may be more of a Batman throwing the punches and supes just taking them - it would be an interesting dynamic if batman and Luther were involved and Luther provides the suit to batman and then eventually supes and batman figure out Luther is a cunt and then team up
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10:19AM on 01/20/2015
So hes gonna fight better than Captain America in the Winter Soldier? Cause lets face it, the two biggest things that weren't portrayed right in any of the Batman films, is a good example of his detective skills and a good example of his fighting skills.
So hes gonna fight better than Captain America in the Winter Soldier? Cause lets face it, the two biggest things that weren't portrayed right in any of the Batman films, is a good example of his detective skills and a good example of his fighting skills.
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10:16AM on 01/20/2015
It'll be interesting to see how kryptonite is involved. since it, along with a black hole or magical attacks, is the only real way to harm or kill superman. will they state that fragments of krypton arrived on earth? or will they retcon it to where wayne enterprises or luthor corp create it in a lab?
It'll be interesting to see how kryptonite is involved. since it, along with a black hole or magical attacks, is the only real way to harm or kill superman. will they state that fragments of krypton arrived on earth? or will they retcon it to where wayne enterprises or luthor corp create it in a lab?
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9:59AM on 01/20/2015
It'd be great to see Batman faces off with Superman but how can Superman not take Batman out in just a single Super Punch?
It'd be great to see Batman faces off with Superman but how can Superman not take Batman out in just a single Super Punch?
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10:04AM on 01/20/2015
Three words: kryptonite armored suit.
Three words: kryptonite armored suit.
10:06AM on 01/20/2015
Have you never opened a comic book? Superman has the worst weakness in the history of Superheroes. If you are rich enough you buy a chunk of space rock and build robotic armour!
Have you never opened a comic book? Superman has the worst weakness in the history of Superheroes. If you are rich enough you buy a chunk of space rock and build robotic armour!
10:07AM on 01/20/2015
Oh, that's clever!
Oh, that's clever!
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