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11.09.2007
Tommy Lee Jones and Jack Nicholson have chimed on with their feelings on the new boys, set to play Harvey Dent and The Joker in THE DARK KNIGHT. Most of us think that they're pretty damn perfect, but let's see what these dudes have to say:

Tommy Lee Jones on Aaron Eckhart:

"...But yeah, hes a good guy... Ive worked with him. Hes an awfully good guy... Aaron is a good actor... He can take care of himself... That make-up, however, is difficult, he said, offering a rare grin.

Jack Nicholson on Heath Ledger (or rather, not being asked back in general)

"I'm furious. I'm furious. [He laughs.] They never asked me about a sequel with the Joker. I know how to do that! Nobody ever asked me... It's like, in any area, you can't believe the reasons things do or don't happen. Not asking me how to do the sequel is that kind of thing. Maybe it's not a mistake. Maybe it was the right thing, but to be candid, I'm furious."

He also went on to talk about how he felt about the post-Burton BATMAN films:

"I don't think they ever really captured Tim Burton's spirit [since he stopped being involved]. They kind of drove the franchise into the ground. Tim Burton's a genius. He had the right take on it. That's why I did the movie. I did the movie based on a single conversation with him. We both come from the cartoon world originally. We had similar ideas."

To be honest, I totally appreciate the Burton vision in his BATMAN films, but I cannot understand it whenever someone says that his were better than Nolan's. I respect what he did, but I just don't think he captured how dark Bats is as a character and Gotham is as a city. I also appreciate that with so many different incarnations of Batman, it's tough to say which depiction is more accurate, the more realistic one (BATMAN BEGINS) just sits more comfortably with me. Somehow, I think there will be more than a couple of you who disagree with ol' Jack. Personally, I think that Chris Nolan has the right take on it.
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5:25PM on 11/12/2007

Nolan's Candle

I see like this.....Nolan ia the only man who came close to caturing the true essence of Burton's Batman. Granted his were some of the best comic adaptions ever made, but Nolan came pretty damn close to besting Burton with Batman Begins. Batman Fovever was somewhat decent (thanks to great casting...except robin....and Burton's involvement as producer). The one that came after that is not even worth mentioning! Am I making sense people? Anyway, Nolan's Great, Burton's Wonderful and that
I see like this.....Nolan ia the only man who came close to caturing the true essence of Burton's Batman. Granted his were some of the best comic adaptions ever made, but Nolan came pretty damn close to besting Burton with Batman Begins. Batman Fovever was somewhat decent (thanks to great casting...except robin....and Burton's involvement as producer). The one that came after that is not even worth mentioning! Am I making sense people? Anyway, Nolan's Great, Burton's Wonderful and that other guy sucks a big one......Peace
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3:21AM on 11/12/2007

HMMM....

It depend on what exactly it is you are looking for. I personally find Tim Burton's BATMAN better solely based on the joker and gotham. He treated the city as a character and gave beautiful designs and architecture. that was one thing that pissed me off about Nolan's vision. Gotham city is best to me when it has the architecture similar to METROPOLIS. thats why i loved the animated show.
With Nolan you get someone who actually read the comics and understands Batman and his inner turmoil. as
It depend on what exactly it is you are looking for. I personally find Tim Burton's BATMAN better solely based on the joker and gotham. He treated the city as a character and gave beautiful designs and architecture. that was one thing that pissed me off about Nolan's vision. Gotham city is best to me when it has the architecture similar to METROPOLIS. thats why i loved the animated show.
With Nolan you get someone who actually read the comics and understands Batman and his inner turmoil. as said before Batman killed a couple people and that is broke a major taboo.

as of right now undecided but leaning towards Tim Burton.
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4:26PM on 11/11/2007

oh and as Ledger

Bring it on. I know that Ledger is a fantastic actor. Alongside Paul Bettany he even made a Knights Tale watchable. They even got me through having to watch Shannyn Sossamon and Mark Addy.
Bring it on. I know that Ledger is a fantastic actor. Alongside Paul Bettany he even made a Knights Tale watchable. They even got me through having to watch Shannyn Sossamon and Mark Addy.
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4:18PM on 11/11/2007

Burton's Batman

I enjoyed Burton's Batman, but as people have already said, it was more about the Joker than it ever was The Bat/Bruce. He had Batman indiscriminately kill, and we know the Bat doesn't do that...
It did however capture a certain comic-book charm and is still one of the best comic book movies.

Nolan has a far better grasp on the later comics, the more modern Batman, and I think Jack was joking about being asked to return. I would've got him in for a cameo playing a different character if
I enjoyed Burton's Batman, but as people have already said, it was more about the Joker than it ever was The Bat/Bruce. He had Batman indiscriminately kill, and we know the Bat doesn't do that...
It did however capture a certain comic-book charm and is still one of the best comic book movies.

Nolan has a far better grasp on the later comics, the more modern Batman, and I think Jack was joking about being asked to return. I would've got him in for a cameo playing a different character if he'd have done it though. Maybe the inevitable Judge that we have to see if we have Harvey Dent in the film.
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4:15PM on 11/11/2007
It is impossible to compare Burton's and Nolan's for the simple reason that they didnt go the same direction. While Burton went into the quirky [link] way he always has, Norlan went into the psychology of the character. Okay, Burton explored the psychology of Bruce Wayne as well but he didnt spare too much time trying to make it too complex. I love Begins and I love the original as well. I could never decide which one is better cause they both are great films and they both miss a little of what
It is impossible to compare Burton's and Nolan's for the simple reason that they didnt go the same direction. While Burton went into the quirky [link] way he always has, Norlan went into the psychology of the character. Okay, Burton explored the psychology of Bruce Wayne as well but he didnt spare too much time trying to make it too complex. I love Begins and I love the original as well. I could never decide which one is better cause they both are great films and they both miss a little of what the other have. I have to say though, Im a sure Heath Ledger wont be able to make me forget Jack Nicholson's Joker, which is one of my favorite performance ever.
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3:59PM on 11/11/2007
The only versions I hated...and still loathe are Schumachers. Burton's were awesome. I was 19 when the first one came out and Joker was GREAT! Burton's Batmans are more gothic...and the music score by Elfman is STILL the BEST Batman score EVER...period.
I also absolutely love Nolan's take on it. And Bale is the best Bats......I am just glad "bat-nipples" are a very bad memory now.
The only versions I hated...and still loathe are Schumachers. Burton's were awesome. I was 19 when the first one came out and Joker was GREAT! Burton's Batmans are more gothic...and the music score by Elfman is STILL the BEST Batman score EVER...period.
I also absolutely love Nolan's take on it. And Bale is the best Bats......I am just glad "bat-nipples" are a very bad memory now.
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3:39PM on 11/11/2007
I am not a fan of Burton's vision of Batman, nor am I a fan of Jack's Joker. I do not think either of them captured Batman as he is and I agree with a previous poster who said that Burton's films were all about the villains and did not seem to care much about the title character. Frankly, I am glad the Joker is being redone and that I can finally have a new Joker to look to. And Nicholson did not take this role because he loved Burton's vision, it was because the producers agreed to give him
I am not a fan of Burton's vision of Batman, nor am I a fan of Jack's Joker. I do not think either of them captured Batman as he is and I agree with a previous poster who said that Burton's films were all about the villains and did not seem to care much about the title character. Frankly, I am glad the Joker is being redone and that I can finally have a new Joker to look to. And Nicholson did not take this role because he loved Burton's vision, it was because the producers agreed to give him the money he asked for. Jack did it for the money. I can not wait to see Heath does with the role because I am sure it will be vastly superior.
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2:56PM on 11/11/2007
Yes , Nic was obviously joking , he obviously respects Burton's vision of Batman and because it's so dear to his heart , that film is and always will be the quintessential Batman film . I do'nt think he's putting down Nolan's version , it's just that he's secure in the knowledge that regardless of what some new director does with the Joker , Nic's version will always be considered legendary , " flaws " and all . I'm sure he enjoys and respects what Nolan is doing with these films but Burton's
Yes , Nic was obviously joking , he obviously respects Burton's vision of Batman and because it's so dear to his heart , that film is and always will be the quintessential Batman film . I do'nt think he's putting down Nolan's version , it's just that he's secure in the knowledge that regardless of what some new director does with the Joker , Nic's version will always be considered legendary , " flaws " and all . I'm sure he enjoys and respects what Nolan is doing with these films but Burton's vision still casts a shadow over them . To me , i enjoy all the B films , including B and R ( it was so over the top and wacked out on day glo , you can't help but join in on the fun ) , there is something about each and every film that made the Batman universe interesting and entertaining . One thing that only Nolan has done , that the other's failed to do , was create a genuinely imposing , sinister , but grounded villain , and his name was Rha Ghul . In BB , Falcone was a pathetic caricature from some low rent gangster film that i couldn't take seriously and he proved to be a wussy in the end . The Scarecrow was about as scary as a teletubbie , he seemed as if he was on prozac the whole time , he also proved to be easily dispatched . Rha Gul, on the other hand , was a genuine threat to Batman , cold and cunning , dangerous and methodical , prob one of the best villains in any comic book hero film . In the first 4 batman films ( and the 60s version ) , the bad guys were just too silly to take seriously , although i enjoy them immensely , we never really got that truly imposing presence and threat to Batman until Rha Gul . The new Joker ( the emo goth version ) , hah , i think my version is better , because i'm a man of my word :) .
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11:30AM on 11/10/2007

Viva Chris Nolan

When I was a wee lad, my first exposure to superherodome was chris reeve in "superman", thus beginning my interest in superhero flicks. But when I was five the first "Batman" movie came out and from then on Batman was my man. I watched him go from Dark Knight to Cape Crusader with awful results. I love the Burton movies and always will, and I seriously doubted anything could top them....until I saw "Batman Begins." I was floored, it had the most respectable cast and the structure of the
When I was a wee lad, my first exposure to superherodome was chris reeve in "superman", thus beginning my interest in superhero flicks. But when I was five the first "Batman" movie came out and from then on Batman was my man. I watched him go from Dark Knight to Cape Crusader with awful results. I love the Burton movies and always will, and I seriously doubted anything could top them....until I saw "Batman Begins." I was floored, it had the most respectable cast and the structure of the storytelling was unbelieveable which is what makes me so enamored with Nolan's work. The problem I see now with burton's films is that after watching the interviews on the bonus discs is that Tim is a bit of selfish filmmaker at times. Not reading the books is like Mel Gibson making "The Passion" and not reading a word of scripture. It's ok to introduce new ideas, but you have to have a respect for the source material. As soon as I heard Nolan mention "Long Halloween" and "Killing Joke" as influences I started thinking "Good boy." Another thing, Batman has such a vast multitude of worlds that there is no singular "world" for anyone to take from. You find the right influences, see what works for you as the filmmaker, and create your own little world to be added to the endless parade of stories and visions. Nolan's vision I appreciate the most. I'll always love what Burton did, but the fact is that someone managed to upstage him. And in conclusion, I don't want to hear a fucking word out of Burton regarding the movie. I'm sure he's mad in some way or feeling jilted, but then again, how did Gene Wilder feel about "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory"? If Burton has any harsh words for this like Jack, then I call Shenanigans on his hypocrisy.
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10:47AM on 11/10/2007

This is the deal

Tim Burton's Batman was cool and entertaining, but for the wrong reasons. It wasn't dark or serious enough. This is where Nolan succeeded.

In Batman '89 Bruce Wayne was occasionally nervous and tense, while Christian Bale removed all that and just played it natural.
Tim Burton's Batman was cool and entertaining, but for the wrong reasons. It wasn't dark or serious enough. This is where Nolan succeeded.

In Batman '89 Bruce Wayne was occasionally nervous and tense, while Christian Bale removed all that and just played it natural.
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10:43AM on 11/10/2007

Begins is better

Don't get me wrong.. I love the original BURTON Batman films... but Nolan's take on the dark and twisted side of Bruce/Bats and the [link] vision of Gotham City is just such an eye opener, and is just such a truer more believable take on a classic franchise.. i seriously choose "Begins" over the original. and the Kilmer/Clooney Batman's don't count cause they were ridiculous pieces of crap that should be erased from all existence.
Don't get me wrong.. I love the original BURTON Batman films... but Nolan's take on the dark and twisted side of Bruce/Bats and the [link] vision of Gotham City is just such an eye opener, and is just such a truer more believable take on a classic franchise.. i seriously choose "Begins" over the original. and the Kilmer/Clooney Batman's don't count cause they were ridiculous pieces of crap that should be erased from all existence.
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9:53AM on 11/10/2007

Hard to Decide

The both of them are fantastic visions, i even liked Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever (Mostly due to Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carry's Characters), but in the end I jsut prefer the feel of Batman Begins. TIm Burton is a Mastermind of making his films feel dark, but they tend to be Dark in a humorous way, and his tales end up being a little more twisted. Christopher Nolan however, cheaters such an atmosphere, from his extremely ambient soundtracks, and the way his editing is done, the tone of
The both of them are fantastic visions, i even liked Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever (Mostly due to Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carry's Characters), but in the end I jsut prefer the feel of Batman Begins. TIm Burton is a Mastermind of making his films feel dark, but they tend to be Dark in a humorous way, and his tales end up being a little more twisted. Christopher Nolan however, cheaters such an atmosphere, from his extremely ambient soundtracks, and the way his editing is done, the tone of the film is brought out much Better in Batman Begins.
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8:15AM on 11/10/2007

They're both great.

Jack (whilst obviously kidding) is right about one thing - Burton's Batman films are genius. Nolan's Batman films also have the potential to be genius, but in a different way. He did a great opening with Begins and I just hope TDK solidifies that.
Jack (whilst obviously kidding) is right about one thing - Burton's Batman films are genius. Nolan's Batman films also have the potential to be genius, but in a different way. He did a great opening with Begins and I just hope TDK solidifies that.
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5:49AM on 11/10/2007

Batman Begins

Am I the only person on the face of the Earth that thinks that Christian Bale though a great actor with some fine performances, didn't do a thing with Batman or Bruce Wayne? Maybe that's the main reason I can't jump on the Begins bandwagon. I will continue to watch it every now that then in the hopes that it grows on me but for now, Mr. Keaton you remain the true live-action Batman.
Am I the only person on the face of the Earth that thinks that Christian Bale though a great actor with some fine performances, didn't do a thing with Batman or Bruce Wayne? Maybe that's the main reason I can't jump on the Begins bandwagon. I will continue to watch it every now that then in the hopes that it grows on me but for now, Mr. Keaton you remain the true live-action Batman.
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9:15PM on 11/09/2007

Bruce Wayne

Tim Burton's films were cool, but I don't think they captured Bruce Wayne correctly,

"YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON! LETS GET NUTS!"

-Bruce Wayne in 1989's Batman
Tim Burton's films were cool, but I don't think they captured Bruce Wayne correctly,

"YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON! LETS GET NUTS!"

-Bruce Wayne in 1989's Batman
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7:26PM on 11/09/2007
I liked Burton's take, I've so far enjoyed Nolan's take...eh.

No one is going to "get it right". We all have an idea of what the characters and the universe they exist in should be in our heads. Once Nolan has his run and they pass the Batman directorial torch to someone else, his/her version still won't be "the one"...it never will be unless you make your own Batman movie.
I liked Burton's take, I've so far enjoyed Nolan's take...eh.

No one is going to "get it right". We all have an idea of what the characters and the universe they exist in should be in our heads. Once Nolan has his run and they pass the Batman directorial torch to someone else, his/her version still won't be "the one"...it never will be unless you make your own Batman movie.
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6:40PM on 11/09/2007
only problem with nolans batman is that it is in reality sort of. this means no mr. freeze who is my favorite villain. still kicks ass tho, go nolan. going back and watching the old batman movies, especially returns, burtons batmans sucked. keaton was miscast as bruce wayne(how can some skinny little pussy be batman?).those movies were not taken as seriously and over acted. gotham looked like new york city when it should look more like detroit. nolan is the man and his take on batman is far
only problem with nolans batman is that it is in reality sort of. this means no mr. freeze who is my favorite villain. still kicks ass tho, go nolan. going back and watching the old batman movies, especially returns, burtons batmans sucked. keaton was miscast as bruce wayne(how can some skinny little pussy be batman?).those movies were not taken as seriously and over acted. gotham looked like new york city when it should look more like detroit. nolan is the man and his take on batman is far superior. yes SUPERIOR.
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4:16PM on 11/09/2007
It does seem pretty obvious that Jack is kidding. I mean, come on, it's Jack Nicholson! I AM gonna have to go against the crowd here, though, and say that I definitely prefer Burton's "Batman" films to "Begins." Don't get me the wrong, the latter is certainly a damn good movie, but it's overly long and not nearly as fun.
It does seem pretty obvious that Jack is kidding. I mean, come on, it's Jack Nicholson! I AM gonna have to go against the crowd here, though, and say that I definitely prefer Burton's "Batman" films to "Begins." Don't get me the wrong, the latter is certainly a damn good movie, but it's overly long and not nearly as fun.
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4:14PM on 11/09/2007

Sean Penn

Yeah that was a rumor but they had so many people rumored to be up for the Joker remember Crispin Glover's name getting tossed around? I think with how they're casting the other 'big' villains (Cillian Murphy is 31, Eckart is under 40, Ledge is approaching 30 while Sean Penn, Crispin Glover and Mark Hamil are all over 40) Sean Penn might not have fit in there well, I wonder if that was ever anything more than a rumor...I'm glad he's not doing it I was skeptical (like most it seems) about Ledger
Yeah that was a rumor but they had so many people rumored to be up for the Joker remember Crispin Glover's name getting tossed around? I think with how they're casting the other 'big' villains (Cillian Murphy is 31, Eckart is under 40, Ledge is approaching 30 while Sean Penn, Crispin Glover and Mark Hamil are all over 40) Sean Penn might not have fit in there well, I wonder if that was ever anything more than a rumor...I'm glad he's not doing it I was skeptical (like most it seems) about Ledger at first but now I cannot wait
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4:14PM on 11/09/2007

If it makes you feel better...

No one has gotten it right so far. You can drive highway traffic for days on end through the giant and very deep plot holes of Batman Begins. Bringing Batman into the present day world as opposed to a world of its own (a la Burton, which I'm not defending by saying this) just didn't work. It could have, but they missed the boat. The script is insanely flawed, and Nolan's direction was hit and miss. I'm happy for whoever enjoyed, good for you. But I'm on the other side of the fence... or rather,
No one has gotten it right so far. You can drive highway traffic for days on end through the giant and very deep plot holes of Batman Begins. Bringing Batman into the present day world as opposed to a world of its own (a la Burton, which I'm not defending by saying this) just didn't work. It could have, but they missed the boat. The script is insanely flawed, and Nolan's direction was hit and miss. I'm happy for whoever enjoyed, good for you. But I'm on the other side of the fence... or rather, I'm on the side that thinks it'll be great when someone else takes over and starts over, hopefully, finally, getting it right.
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4:12PM on 11/09/2007
I think Tim did a great job when he made his films. They captured the essence of a cartoony Batman. Chris Nolan is a genius for taking Batman, creating a gritty, dark Gotham and making it all seem real. Batman Begins feels like it takes place in our world, where Tim Burton's Batman takes place in some alternate cartoon world. They're both good. But Chris Nolan has not only done it better, but has re-created the idea of what comic book movies should be. (Let's hope that Jon Favreau has
I think Tim did a great job when he made his films. They captured the essence of a cartoony Batman. Chris Nolan is a genius for taking Batman, creating a gritty, dark Gotham and making it all seem real. Batman Begins feels like it takes place in our world, where Tim Burton's Batman takes place in some alternate cartoon world. They're both good. But Chris Nolan has not only done it better, but has re-created the idea of what comic book movies should be. (Let's hope that Jon Favreau has understood that...)
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3:22PM on 11/09/2007

Sean Penn

First off, I think Jack is kidding. Second, did anyone else hear the rumor that Nolan wanted Sean Penn to play the Joker but he wouldn't take the part because he didn't want to compete or upstage his friend Nicholson?
First off, I think Jack is kidding. Second, did anyone else hear the rumor that Nolan wanted Sean Penn to play the Joker but he wouldn't take the part because he didn't want to compete or upstage his friend Nicholson?
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3:12PM on 11/09/2007

Wha?

Guys, are you kidding me? Jack was not serious, in an extremely obvious way.
And he's right. Tim Burton's a genius.
So is Nolan though.
Guys, are you kidding me? Jack was not serious, in an extremely obvious way.
And he's right. Tim Burton's a genius.
So is Nolan though.
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2:46PM on 11/09/2007

Variations

You know, one never hears Cesar Romero rant about not being in Burton's Batman feature when that was released. And, you don't hear any Batman writer/artist criticize the newer writers/artists on the current Batman titles, claiming their version of Batman is the best one. Over the years, in any of the medium, Batman has had many different interpretations from so many artists. It's good to see how other people see Batman. I enjoyed the Burton Batman movies. But, I am one to agree with the
You know, one never hears Cesar Romero rant about not being in Burton's Batman feature when that was released. And, you don't hear any Batman writer/artist criticize the newer writers/artists on the current Batman titles, claiming their version of Batman is the best one. Over the years, in any of the medium, Batman has had many different interpretations from so many artists. It's good to see how other people see Batman. I enjoyed the Burton Batman movies. But, I am one to agree with the people that think that they weren't 'Batman' movies. They were more focused on the Batman gallery of villains. It was good for what it was. I will not detract from that. Now, Nolan's Batman on the other hand is a different take with different actors putting their own spin on it. This one, as we all know, as a more 'grounded' version. Quite honestly, I prefer this vision more and enjoy the hell out of it! I'm looking forward to the Dark Knight next year. I won't say it's 'superior' to any of the other visions. I'd rather say, it's 'my preference.' To add, if Nicholson is serious about him being furious, then that is just really egotistical of him. The way he states it, it seems as if he is implying he feels he is 'the ONLY person qualified' to play the Joker.
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2:19PM on 11/09/2007

WELL ...

.. let's start with Burton's BATMAN. I saw it recently and guess what: the movie should have been called JOKER! I mean: Jack Nicholson is the main star of the movie (even credits say so), Joker's origin is explained, and I even think he has more screen time than Batman! On the other hand, BATMAN BEGINS totally focuses on Batman, with 3 major villains in the movie (I count Carmine Falcone because he appears in the comics as well). To conclude, BATMAN BEGINS is superior to any other movie
.. let's start with Burton's BATMAN. I saw it recently and guess what: the movie should have been called JOKER! I mean: Jack Nicholson is the main star of the movie (even credits say so), Joker's origin is explained, and I even think he has more screen time than Batman! On the other hand, BATMAN BEGINS totally focuses on Batman, with 3 major villains in the movie (I count Carmine Falcone because he appears in the comics as well). To conclude, BATMAN BEGINS is superior to any other movie adaptation of Batman.
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2:13PM on 11/09/2007
Are you kidding me Jack? I hope he's not serious. He has already been praised for doing a good job as the Joker, but doesn't he realize that first of all this is not "The Dark Knight Returns" story where the Joker is older. Does he also not realize that this is NOT a sequel to the burton and shumacher films. What a dumb ass.
Are you kidding me Jack? I hope he's not serious. He has already been praised for doing a good job as the Joker, but doesn't he realize that first of all this is not "The Dark Knight Returns" story where the Joker is older. Does he also not realize that this is NOT a sequel to the burton and shumacher films. What a dumb ass.
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2:07PM on 11/09/2007

Wait a minute...

I think Jack and Tommy should be looking forward to seeing what someone else does with the roles (after all their Batman run was a different take on the material moving on from the previous incarnation with Nicholson taking over the Joker for Cesar Romero, he was still alive even if he was 80 something, Nicholson is getting close to that) considering the Schumacher films ended in such a craptastic style it's almost a fair comparison to look at the campy 66 version and compare it to the 'gritty
I think Jack and Tommy should be looking forward to seeing what someone else does with the roles (after all their Batman run was a different take on the material moving on from the previous incarnation with Nicholson taking over the Joker for Cesar Romero, he was still alive even if he was 80 something, Nicholson is getting close to that) considering the Schumacher films ended in such a craptastic style it's almost a fair comparison to look at the campy 66 version and compare it to the 'gritty realistic' batman of 89 the same way you would look at Batman and Robin and compare it to the 'gritty realistic' Batman Begins (I like the 66 one though, dont get me wrong) and I doubt Nicholson was serious when he said furious anyways, that guys got way too many 19 year old super models around him to be furious about anything
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1:42PM on 11/09/2007

Ha!

LOL! Who wants to see an 80-year old Joker?! With all due respect to Tim Burton, C. Nolan makes the Batman look and feel like he should. And the new Joker, at first I thought Ledger would be the absolute WORST choice but since I've seen him I've completely changed my opinion. I'm hoping this Batman receives an 'R' rating or at least an 'UNRATED' DVD because, if you've seen the comics, you should know they would easily be 'R' rated. 'Nuff said.
LOL! Who wants to see an 80-year old Joker?! With all due respect to Tim Burton, C. Nolan makes the Batman look and feel like he should. And the new Joker, at first I thought Ledger would be the absolute WORST choice but since I've seen him I've completely changed my opinion. I'm hoping this Batman receives an 'R' rating or at least an 'UNRATED' DVD because, if you've seen the comics, you should know they would easily be 'R' rated. 'Nuff said.
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