Grindhouse revisited?? | Movie News
With the (seemingly) much-anticipated double feature GRINDHOUSE having a case of box office erectile dysfunction, Hollywood insiders and online journalists immediately speculated on the causes quicker than Tarantino can deliver a complete sentence. It's too long! Too violent! Too self-indulgent! Too hyped! Released on the wrong weekend! Audiences didn't "get" it! Milk Duds pull out my fillings! And so on.
Now comes the wicked rumor that the Weinstein machine known as Harvey was so utterly disappointed by the fiscal reaming that he's actually considering the notion of slashing the package into two distinct flicks and tossing them at screens separately -- in just a few weeks! Harvey points to the fact that this was the global release plan all along: "By splitting it up, we're going to do a hell of a lot better internationally than we did here."
This has to sting -- the Weinsteins haven't exactly churned out the hits since wandering off on their own, with a catalog and slate littered with expensive projects, foreign acquisitions and genre flicks that were all basically dead on arrival (including, ironically, DOA). And now even their two Golden Boys in tandem can't open a flick to much more than what the equally graphic 300 pulled in its fourth week of release.
Of course, just striking prints of the proposed solo cuts seems like it would be to further financial detriment, let alone the price tag of re-promoting the flicks, so who knows what'll happen. At least the fans will likely get a (probably bare-bones) DVD release with all alacrity in a ham-handed attempt to recoup cost quickly. As for why the project tanked at the box office, I stick with William Goldman's Hollywood theory: "Nobody knows anything."Source: Deadline Hollywood
Extra Tidbit: Tarantino and Rodriguez have previously directed segments of one project: 1995's FOUR ROOMS. And we know how that turned out...























































































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Btw, that 'extra tidbit' is a little redundant when there's From Dusk Till Dawn and Sin City out there too...
Btw, that 'extra tidbit' is a little redundant when there's From Dusk Till Dawn and Sin City out there too...
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It hurts man, it hurts! In this age of movies that suck like no movie sucked before, even the good stuff gets...
It hurts man, it hurts! In this age of movies that suck like no movie sucked before, even the good stuff gets mutilated and less interesting in the end. Do they even want us to go to theathers lately?
12:29PM on 04/10/2007 Add as a friend | MFC profile
And whats different from this holiday that works for all the other major holidays out there?
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I'm still leaning towards a packed DVD. Yea, QT is a dink when it comes to NON SE versions of his movies, but Robert is a God when it comes to releasing ass packed DVD sets. So, I'm pretty confident that there will be a great package for this being...
I'm still leaning towards a packed DVD. Yea, QT is a dink when it comes to NON SE versions of his movies, but Robert is a God when it comes to releasing ass packed DVD sets. So, I'm pretty confident that there will be a great package for this being released.
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Now you have a film such as Grindhouse which contains , not only 2 seperate films , but faux trailers also . It's an ambitious project that contains many cinematic themes , i would say it's even sophisticated mayhem . And i think that's mainly what may have hurt it , it's groundbreaking nature and lack of focus couldn't endear it to a wide audience .
So releasing each sperately , with the trailers intact ( i would'nt even play up the faux trailer angle , surprise everyone ) , and with a clear focus about what each individual film has to offer , can only benefit the potential box office draw , in my opinion . Planet is an over the top zombie film , market it as such , Death Proof is basically an over the top car chase revenge film , market it as such and feature the car chases in the trailers , it's the focus that needs adjusting not the content of the films .
And here's the thing that most people may not agree with , tone down the allusions to the films being inspired by Grindhouse , that's strictly for the fanboys like me . Just release them as modern day offerings , and the people in the know will understand it's a homage , loving nod to the sleaze of the past ,the whole Grind thing may have confused people , most people don't know what the heck it is or relates to .
Allright , i'll be seeing it soon , and i'll let the shmoes know what i really think , because since i have yet to see it , my comments are strictly conjecture at this point . Hey , ring up another 6 dollars , it's almost in the black :D .
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While I prefer the integrity of the double-feature, unless you've got your head up your a** you had to see this coming. Seriously, there's TWO movies. With...
While I prefer the integrity of the double-feature, unless you've got your head up your a** you had to see this coming. Seriously, there's TWO movies. With missing reels. They're going to triple-dip this mofo (restored Planet Terror DVD, restored Death Proof DVD, and original Grindhouse DVD). People will buy as many DVDs as you tell them to buy.
As for the poor box office, I had a weird experience seeing this on Easter Sunday morning. The theater was 1/2 full with a lot of seniors and a few families with kids WAY too young to be watching. Probably about 7-8 people walked out in the first 30 minutes (two families and one elderly couple). So about 10% of the audience seemed to have no idea what they came to see. And this was in L.A. Strange!
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This is seriously a BAD idea. I saw grindhouse on opening day and it was one of the best movie theater experiences that I've had in a long while. To think that SO many people could get deprived of that pisses me off JUST a little bit
Harvy, YOU decided to release the movie during easter weekend, don't make the public suffer for YOUR mistake.
Color me disgusted.
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I don't care how badly it did at the box office or how a couple of millionaires didn't make a ton of money off of it. Poor millionaires. I got MY money's worth and that's all that matters.
I don't care how badly it did at the box office or how a couple of millionaires didn't make a ton of money off of it. Poor millionaires. I got MY money's worth and that's all that matters.
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Then maybe they thought that Ice Cube sequel to the January hit wouldn't be so big if they release it four months in, because January is dump season anywho.
Then take...
Then maybe they thought that Ice Cube sequel to the January hit wouldn't be so big if they release it four months in, because January is dump season anywho.
Then take into consideration it's Easter weekend. Kids are running around, hunting for Easter eggs.
And a movie about '70s exploitation might appeal to someone in their mid-forties, but how do you ensure the younger audience will watch it?
Now, consider this, a movie that was marketed as a double-billed presentation, from two guys who love '70s exploitation movies, is chopped in two. Neither film is very long on its own. The actors aren't exactly star material (really, Rose McGowan and Freddy Rodriguez are not likely to draw in a crowd by theirselves, as top-billed, and Josh Brolin and Marley Shelton are maybe a worse example), and Rodriguez doesn't have the same clout that Tarantino does. He did "Desperado." Tarantino did "Pulp Fiction."
And let's not forget the fake trailers. What the fuck are fake trailers doing in front of your movie? And why do they feature gratuitous nudity, and a girl giving head to a man who doesn't have one.
They said this was gonna be a double feature, and you were busy last weekend with family. And this was supposed to be an event that would make people want to go to the movies. Yeah, right.
And what the fuck is with that missing reel, man? It's funny when they happen on both movies, but alone they're kinda irritating. At least the European audience gets to see the missing reel.
And lastly, what about that scene in "Death Proof" with Dr. Block. Who the hell is she supposed to be? Oh, yeah, she's the doctor with the psychotic zombie husband and the lesbian lover who got ripped to pieces. But without the other movie, it might not make so much sense.
Okay, so maybe I'm being a little picky, and maybe the international crowd will be asking some of these very same questions about the little plot strands that tie the two movies together.
But this was fun, this was worth it, and a holiday weekend can be very tricky to open a movie on. So what I wanna know is, how sure is this?
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I thought it turned out great.
So why don't you... you know, do your own thing.
I handled that nicely.
I thought it turned out great.
So why don't you... you know, do your own thing.
I handled that nicely.
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Plus it's their fault for over-promoting the movie. Everyone is disappointed more people couldn't enjoy the awesomeness, but if they did less marketing, the REAL fans would already be out watching it, and the idiot everyday joes still wouldnt have a clue, but thered...
Plus it's their fault for over-promoting the movie. Everyone is disappointed more people couldn't enjoy the awesomeness, but if they did less marketing, the REAL fans would already be out watching it, and the idiot everyday joes still wouldnt have a clue, but thered be less spilt money.
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We have something special here, don't fuck it up.
We have something special here, don't fuck it up.
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You can't possibly be that clueless.
Grindhouse, in spite of its complete and utter kickassedness, was not made for a mass audience.
That said, leave it the f**k alone!!
You can't possibly be that clueless.
Grindhouse, in spite of its complete and utter kickassedness, was not made for a mass audience.
That said, leave it the f**k alone!!
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