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Joss Whedon talks Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, as well as Tony Stark's return in The Avengers 2

May. 17, 2013by:

SPOILER WARNING: If you haven't seen IRON MAN 3, then don't read this. Seriously.

Joss Whedon has slowly let slip little details about THE AVENGERS 2 as the train starts to leave the station on that production and speaking to IGN he talked briefly about some new and returning characters. It's been confirmed that both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, the brother-sister duo (and children of Magneto), are written into the film and Whedon had some comments about their involvement with the superhero team, saying:

“You know, they had a rough beginning. They’re interesting to me because they sort of represent the part of the world that wouldn’t necessarily agree with The Avengers. So they’re not there to make things easier. I’m not putting any characters in the movie that will make things easier.”

Does that mean that their mutant heritage will be addressed? I'm sure that Whedon has considered what he can and can't do in terms of violating Fox's ownership of the X-Men and I look forward to seeing his workaround for these two characters who are so closely bonded with both The Avengers and the X-Men.

In addition to that, Whedon addressed the controversial ending of IRON MAN 3 and how that factors into Tony Stark's (re)introduction into THE AVENGERS 2:

“Well, I feel like in Iron Man 3, even though he said, ‘I’ve changed' -- he blew up his remote suits, but I don’t think anybody thinks he doesn’t have one anymore. The question is, if The Avengers are called, does he show up? And the answer is, ‘Yes!’”

Personally, I never felt that the ending of IRON MAN 3 stripped Tony Stark of anything, but rather reinvigorated him as someone who could continue being Iron Man without the chest baggage, as it was never really the device (however iconic) that made him the armored avenger, but the individual. Ultimately, I never got the difficulty in bringing Stark back to THE AVENGERS 2 after the events of IRON MAN 3. In fact, I think it gives Whedon more to play with, rather than just having Tony fly in, do his thing, and be done with it. Now, he has a little more conflict to work with, which makes for a much better story than a simple "let's get the gang back together" jaunt.

THE AVENGERS 2 is slated for May 1, 2015.

Extra Tidbit: I may go into a nerd coma after 2015. Just sayin'.
Source: IGN

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10:52PM on 05/19/2013
If anyone can balance all of these characters and storylines and throw mutants into the mix, Joss Whedon can.
If anyone can balance all of these characters and storylines and throw mutants into the mix, Joss Whedon can.
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12:30PM on 05/18/2013
I don't see the problem with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. They can say they are mutants without saying who their father is. A simple 'we don't want to talk about it' should be enough, or more simple: they don't know YET that the Maximoff are not their real parents...
I don't see the problem with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. They can say they are mutants without saying who their father is. A simple 'we don't want to talk about it' should be enough, or more simple: they don't know YET that the Maximoff are not their real parents...
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1:18AM on 05/18/2013
The ending didn't bug me at all, and as for the suits, you know he's got more. He's rich and has plenty of shit to make. Joss will embracing the situation and bring a whole new set of cool shit for Stark to do. Look at Avengers and that suit he had when falling from the building
The ending didn't bug me at all, and as for the suits, you know he's got more. He's rich and has plenty of shit to make. Joss will embracing the situation and bring a whole new set of cool shit for Stark to do. Look at Avengers and that suit he had when falling from the building
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1:14AM on 05/18/2013

Spolier alert

I haven't seen IM3 so thanks a lot for the spoiler heads-up.
I haven't seen IM3 so thanks a lot for the spoiler heads-up.
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6:55PM on 05/17/2013
**SPOILER WARNING**
Hehe, Nerd Coma - I like that. As for Tony Stark, so okay, he doesn't have the shrapnel in his heart any more but he's still Iron Man. Tony is a thinker and a tinkerer. He keeps on developing his armor, i.e. from briefcase armor to remote access Mark 42 armor.
**SPOILER WARNING**
Hehe, Nerd Coma - I like that. As for Tony Stark, so okay, he doesn't have the shrapnel in his heart any more but he's still Iron Man. Tony is a thinker and a tinkerer. He keeps on developing his armor, i.e. from briefcase armor to remote access Mark 42 armor.
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2:59PM on 05/17/2013
I'm really curious to see how they work around the parentage of the Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver. Obviously, Magneto is a big part of what is happening in the XMEN cinematic universe, so I can't imagine they got permission to even reference him. Though it would be amazing if they did.

As for Downey, with the entrance of Extremis there is zero reason he can't show up as Iron Man. Extremis just allows Tony Stark and Iron Man to become symbiotic. They are literally one and the same now.
I'm really curious to see how they work around the parentage of the Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver. Obviously, Magneto is a big part of what is happening in the XMEN cinematic universe, so I can't imagine they got permission to even reference him. Though it would be amazing if they did.

As for Downey, with the entrance of Extremis there is zero reason he can't show up as Iron Man. Extremis just allows Tony Stark and Iron Man to become symbiotic. They are literally one and the same now.
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2:48PM on 05/17/2013

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Can anyone explain to me why Disney/Marvel can't sublet back their characters? I understand why Fox doesn't want to let them revert back, but why not let them bare the cost of making the movies and just take a % off the top? I know the financials of a movie are just this side of government accounting, but you'd think someone could get this done.
Can anyone explain to me why Disney/Marvel can't sublet back their characters? I understand why Fox doesn't want to let them revert back, but why not let them bare the cost of making the movies and just take a % off the top? I know the financials of a movie are just this side of government accounting, but you'd think someone could get this done.
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2:42PM on 05/17/2013
Tony just blew up his suits to make a pretty fireworks show for his 40 year old girlfriend with abs. He's rich and smart. He'll make more. By the way, I'm looking way down the road here, but a fight between the Hulk and Wolverine would give me a stiffy.
Tony just blew up his suits to make a pretty fireworks show for his 40 year old girlfriend with abs. He's rich and smart. He'll make more. By the way, I'm looking way down the road here, but a fight between the Hulk and Wolverine would give me a stiffy.
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2:38PM on 05/17/2013

Mutants ?

so the Xmen universe in now part of MCU?
so the Xmen universe in now part of MCU?
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7:27AM on 05/19/2013
As far as I know, they can use the word 'mutant(s)', and some specific characters linked to more than one franchise (if at least one of them is owned by Marvel Studios), but they can't talk (directly,, but clues MIGHT be allowed) about specific franchises (X-Men, FF, Spiderman...) and characters specifically linked to them (here, Magneto...)...
But, then again, it's AS FAR AS I KNOW...
As far as I know, they can use the word 'mutant(s)', and some specific characters linked to more than one franchise (if at least one of them is owned by Marvel Studios), but they can't talk (directly,, but clues MIGHT be allowed) about specific franchises (X-Men, FF, Spiderman...) and characters specifically linked to them (here, Magneto...)...
But, then again, it's AS FAR AS I KNOW...
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2:21PM on 05/17/2013

Hulk Buster

Just saying...
Just saying...
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2:15PM on 05/17/2013
The ending for Iron Man 3 felt like it really pushed Tony to that upper echelon where he feels he can stand with the rest of them. He explains at the beginning of the film that he essentially felt overshadowed by the fact that he was surrounded by these men and otherworldly beings who were more than just men. I think that was key to the entire backbone of IM3. Now, it seems like he's gotten past that and will have no issue standing side by side with all these great heroes. Scarlett Witch and
The ending for Iron Man 3 felt like it really pushed Tony to that upper echelon where he feels he can stand with the rest of them. He explains at the beginning of the film that he essentially felt overshadowed by the fact that he was surrounded by these men and otherworldly beings who were more than just men. I think that was key to the entire backbone of IM3. Now, it seems like he's gotten past that and will have no issue standing side by side with all these great heroes. Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver will be interesting. I am only lightly familiar with them, but I know Scarlett Witch plays a pretty pivotal role, so I imagine these two new heroes will be fairly important to the next Avengers film.
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1:58PM on 05/17/2013

segue

really curious about who has what rights and how they would transfer. i know Fox has XMen and everyone says that gives them rights to all mutants. but there are a few mutants that never really had XMen ties (Franklin Richards, Firestar, etc). what bundle do they fall in and where do they go if the XMen rights come back to Marvel? Oh, and this is all good news.
really curious about who has what rights and how they would transfer. i know Fox has XMen and everyone says that gives them rights to all mutants. but there are a few mutants that never really had XMen ties (Franklin Richards, Firestar, etc). what bundle do they fall in and where do they go if the XMen rights come back to Marvel? Oh, and this is all good news.
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1:39PM on 05/17/2013

Good to hear about Stark

I was a little worried with him blowing up all the suits, I mean you had to figure he would be back but still, so its good to hear and I'm excited to hear about Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch and really hope they can address them being mutants in some way, cant wait for Thor 2 so it can really get the ball rolling on Avengers 2
I was a little worried with him blowing up all the suits, I mean you had to figure he would be back but still, so its good to hear and I'm excited to hear about Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch and really hope they can address them being mutants in some way, cant wait for Thor 2 so it can really get the ball rolling on Avengers 2
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1:36PM on 05/17/2013
i took the end of 3 as he changed. Changed in the sense that he was finally able to move on from the NY stuff from Avengers 1 and destroying all the remote suits was letting go of that, not needing that obsession of constantly making endless suits. didn't take it as him not having or building another suit, but just fine with a few and not needing an army worth.
i took the end of 3 as he changed. Changed in the sense that he was finally able to move on from the NY stuff from Avengers 1 and destroying all the remote suits was letting go of that, not needing that obsession of constantly making endless suits. didn't take it as him not having or building another suit, but just fine with a few and not needing an army worth.
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1:25PM on 05/17/2013
Very excited to hear that Tony will be back with his armored suit for The Avengers 2. I thought it was kind of obvious that Tony wouldn't blow up ALL of his suits because that would just be dumb and would be out of character for Tony. I loved Iron Man 3 and thought the ending was great and left the door wide open for Tony to explore any new direction. The third film especially gave him more depth and character than he had before.

Now I want to hear Whedon discuss the whole Hawkeye situation
Very excited to hear that Tony will be back with his armored suit for The Avengers 2. I thought it was kind of obvious that Tony wouldn't blow up ALL of his suits because that would just be dumb and would be out of character for Tony. I loved Iron Man 3 and thought the ending was great and left the door wide open for Tony to explore any new direction. The third film especially gave him more depth and character than he had before.

Now I want to hear Whedon discuss the whole Hawkeye situation with Renner.
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