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Michael Douglas shares his thoughts on Edgar Wright leaving Ant-Man

Jun. 9, 2014by: Sean Wist

You're not likely to hear too much from the current cast and crew of ANT-MAN about Edgar Wright's departure. Obviously they're upset, but they're not about to go bash either party, especially before there's even a finished product. However, Michael Douglas was willing to give us some of his thoughts about it in a recent interview promoting his newest film, AND SO IT GOES.

In regards to whether or not he was disappointed by Wright's departure:

I was very disappointed. Im a big fan of his movies. It's a very disappointing situation, happened very late in the game. I dont think anybodys quite recovered and my heart goes out to Edgar. Hes been involved with the project for a long time, but hes talented enough that youll be hearing a whole lot from him, and Im sure with a little vengeance.

The video on which this quote originates is important to note, as Michael Douglas' tone suggests that he's been around this situation before and directors coming and going is business as usual as far as Hollywood is concerned. For Wright fans, a blow was dealt when Edgar left, but the movie will get made and that's that. I suppose at this point it comes down to your faith in Marvel as a film studio. While I'm much happier with them having more control over their properties, I do want to believe that they're willing to let other artists take their characters to interesting places. I can speculate all day and night, but we'll never know how Edgar's vision would have measured up with the final product.

ANT-MAN will be released, under the direction of Peyton Reed, on July 17, 2015.

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4:15PM on 06/10/2014
Feige and Whedon talked about how happy they were with Wright and Cornish's script. They enthused about how it opened up the Marvel universe and gave it more history and character. They had everything locked down, had selected the actors and were just about to start shooting. The guys who at the last moment decided to fuck it up were Perlmutter and the executives at Marvel and Disney. The scrooges, not the creatives.
Feige and Whedon talked about how happy they were with Wright and Cornish's script. They enthused about how it opened up the Marvel universe and gave it more history and character. They had everything locked down, had selected the actors and were just about to start shooting. The guys who at the last moment decided to fuck it up were Perlmutter and the executives at Marvel and Disney. The scrooges, not the creatives.
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11:03AM on 06/10/2014

Edgar would have been fine, but I didn't like Scott Pilgrim...

I have a feeling I understand why Edgar was fired/walked out.

He probably wanted to make the movie a lot more quirky than it needed to be. The movie is probably going to be on the same level in tone as Iron Man, and they didn't need a joke a minute like I am sure Edgar was going to sneak in.
I have a feeling I understand why Edgar was fired/walked out.

He probably wanted to make the movie a lot more quirky than it needed to be. The movie is probably going to be on the same level in tone as Iron Man, and they didn't need a joke a minute like I am sure Edgar was going to sneak in.
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8:09PM on 06/09/2014
Ant so it goes...
Ant so it goes...
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3:44PM on 06/09/2014
I don't really care for ant man to begin with. sure i'll see the movie but it's going to be hard for anybody to not make it look really cheesy.
I don't really care for ant man to begin with. sure i'll see the movie but it's going to be hard for anybody to not make it look really cheesy.
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2:06PM on 06/09/2014
A studio and a director couldn't agree on a vision, alert the presses (joke aimed at fan overreaction, not at joblo staffers for covering the stories :P). People are definitely overstating what happened here. They couldn't make it work and they parted ways, its not that big of a deal. Yes, I wanted to see what Wright could do, but at this point, a Wright-less Antman is better than a compromised-Wright Antman. This isn't like someone took the Cornetto trilogy and tried fucking with it. This is
A studio and a director couldn't agree on a vision, alert the presses (joke aimed at fan overreaction, not at joblo staffers for covering the stories :P). People are definitely overstating what happened here. They couldn't make it work and they parted ways, its not that big of a deal. Yes, I wanted to see what Wright could do, but at this point, a Wright-less Antman is better than a compromised-Wright Antman. This isn't like someone took the Cornetto trilogy and tried fucking with it. This is an IP that already belonged to Marvel, if they don't like what Wright is doing with it, they shouldn't have to deal with no matter how passionate and talented a filmmaker he is.
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2:26PM on 06/09/2014
Couldn't agree more. It's over and done with, time to move on. When exactly did news articles start focusing on James Mangold's Wolverine? Because I can't wait until that happens with this movie.
Couldn't agree more. It's over and done with, time to move on. When exactly did news articles start focusing on James Mangold's Wolverine? Because I can't wait until that happens with this movie.
2:30PM on 06/09/2014
Couldn't agree more, it's Marvel's property. And this, while somewhat disappointing does not ruin the film for me.
Couldn't agree more, it's Marvel's property. And this, while somewhat disappointing does not ruin the film for me.
5:14PM on 06/09/2014
The only thing about that is he had been developing it for so long, and - my understanding - was always approved of and then they took his script and completely rewrote it after he'd been trying to work with them. And other sources have said the script is terrible now. I agree it's not really a big deal, and that this is the biz of Hollywood, but I would still be upset if I was him
The only thing about that is he had been developing it for so long, and - my understanding - was always approved of and then they took his script and completely rewrote it after he'd been trying to work with them. And other sources have said the script is terrible now. I agree it's not really a big deal, and that this is the biz of Hollywood, but I would still be upset if I was him
1:07PM on 06/09/2014
I think the biggest thing this movie has going against it now is that some people will be either unwilling or unable to accept that Wright isn't making it. Much like "The Wolverine", no matter how good it ends up being, it'll always be compared to What Could Have Been. And I think that's unfair because it's essentially comparing something to nothing. Until we're able to hop over to an alternate universe and actually see What Could Have Been, I find it's best to let these things go and move
I think the biggest thing this movie has going against it now is that some people will be either unwilling or unable to accept that Wright isn't making it. Much like "The Wolverine", no matter how good it ends up being, it'll always be compared to What Could Have Been. And I think that's unfair because it's essentially comparing something to nothing. Until we're able to hop over to an alternate universe and actually see What Could Have Been, I find it's best to let these things go and move on.
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12:40PM on 06/09/2014

Sean and The Soloist said it without explaining

Our glorious Joblo writer said it all in the last sentence. The issue here isn't that the movie is going to be bad at all. The issue is that my heart was very committed to Wright's Ant Man. It meant a lot to me that someone I've followed since Spaced hit the big time and then had to walk away because of whatever beef there was. It leaves whatever movie it turns out to be a question mark because if it is great, then we have to question if Wright was wrong, or if it sucks. The blame goes to the
Our glorious Joblo writer said it all in the last sentence. The issue here isn't that the movie is going to be bad at all. The issue is that my heart was very committed to Wright's Ant Man. It meant a lot to me that someone I've followed since Spaced hit the big time and then had to walk away because of whatever beef there was. It leaves whatever movie it turns out to be a question mark because if it is great, then we have to question if Wright was wrong, or if it sucks. The blame goes to the studio.

Look at the last Wolverine. Mangold made a damn fine film, but all I see when I think of it is how much better it could have been with Aronofsky. The same will apply here. Reed may do a damn fine job, but what would it have been with Wright? This is one of the few downsides to having our fingers on the pulse the way we do. Sometimes a movie gets ruined by the bullshit.
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5:17PM on 06/09/2014
But aronofsky didn't work on wolverine near as long as wright did on ant man - right? I remember him only being attached for like 6 months, but I could be totally wrong
But aronofsky didn't work on wolverine near as long as wright did on ant man - right? I remember him only being attached for like 6 months, but I could be totally wrong
12:36PM on 06/09/2014
Even Michael Douglas isn't happy about this. Get your act together, Marvel. Now your cast might even drop out.
Even Michael Douglas isn't happy about this. Get your act together, Marvel. Now your cast might even drop out.
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12:37PM on 06/09/2014
ummm he seems indifferent dude. hes just sayin it like it is, it happens all the time
ummm he seems indifferent dude. hes just sayin it like it is, it happens all the time
12:48PM on 06/09/2014
I know. He just seem not happy about this. But you're right, he does sound indifferent. I just hope none of the cast would drop out because of this.
I know. He just seem not happy about this. But you're right, he does sound indifferent. I just hope none of the cast would drop out because of this.
1:11PM on 06/09/2014
That was my biggest worry, too. But I believe one of the stipulations for the new director was being able to work with the cast they already had, so I'm pretty sure Marvel doesn't want to lose them either.
That was my biggest worry, too. But I believe one of the stipulations for the new director was being able to work with the cast they already had, so I'm pretty sure Marvel doesn't want to lose them either.
12:33PM on 06/09/2014
Even if it's a good film, it won't be as great as Wright's version would have been.
Even if it's a good film, it won't be as great as Wright's version would have been.
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12:38PM on 06/09/2014
how do you know? can you see alternate timelines?
how do you know? can you see alternate timelines?
2:58PM on 06/09/2014
Of course he can! He's the Soloist!!!
Of course he can! He's the Soloist!!!
12:32PM on 06/09/2014

While Everyone is poo pooing Marvel right now

im actually gonna go ahead and poo poo Edgar simply because its obvious Marvel has a plan for phase 3 and beyond etc, and its quite likely that Edgars version wasnt gelling with what they are planning. This is one of the few times where "creative control" is better left in Marvels hands. Theyve shown that they arent afraid of letting the directors have creative control (Cap 2, Iron man 3, Cap 1 etc) but in the end, the product has to fit and slide in easy to the overall narrative of the
im actually gonna go ahead and poo poo Edgar simply because its obvious Marvel has a plan for phase 3 and beyond etc, and its quite likely that Edgars version wasnt gelling with what they are planning. This is one of the few times where "creative control" is better left in Marvels hands. Theyve shown that they arent afraid of letting the directors have creative control (Cap 2, Iron man 3, Cap 1 etc) but in the end, the product has to fit and slide in easy to the overall narrative of the Avengers. I have a feeling Edgars movie was NOT going to do that.
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12:33PM on 06/09/2014
let the thumbs down begin!
let the thumbs down begin!
12:36PM on 06/09/2014
lol and the fanboys have spoken lol
lol and the fanboys have spoken lol
12:40PM on 06/09/2014
I'm right there with ya buddy!! I love Edgar Wright and all his films but the bitching about this has reached a crazy level. Shit happens. I'm personally gonna look positively toward this film still. Marvel hasn't done me wrong yet except Iron Man 3.
I'm right there with ya buddy!! I love Edgar Wright and all his films but the bitching about this has reached a crazy level. Shit happens. I'm personally gonna look positively toward this film still. Marvel hasn't done me wrong yet except Iron Man 3.
12:48PM on 06/09/2014
thanks man, im glad theres at least one person who doesnt have their head up their Ass. Edgar Wright is great and all but hes not this untouchable director. Glad to see someone who can step back and take a perspectived look at the movie itself and the franchises as a whole.
thanks man, im glad theres at least one person who doesnt have their head up their Ass. Edgar Wright is great and all but hes not this untouchable director. Glad to see someone who can step back and take a perspectived look at the movie itself and the franchises as a whole.
12:58PM on 06/09/2014
considering everyone is at 1 vote or 2, i have a feeling one person in particular is just refreshing his phone and downvoting me, which is pretty ridiculous.
considering everyone is at 1 vote or 2, i have a feeling one person in particular is just refreshing his phone and downvoting me, which is pretty ridiculous.
1:02PM on 06/09/2014
Wow, I'm actually impressed you got that many downvotes! It's like you said you were gonna shoot Edgar Wright and rape his corpse.
Wow, I'm actually impressed you got that many downvotes! It's like you said you were gonna shoot Edgar Wright and rape his corpse.
1:40PM on 06/09/2014
At the same time, consider the fact that even Joss Whedon seemingly came up in solidarity with Wright (implied by his twit pic of himself holding a Cornetto cone), suggesting that even he kind of thinks Marvel didn't make the right decision. Keep in mind, Whedon is the one who has been appointed to make sure that all the solo movies fit into the sphere of what he's doing with Avengers. So by him showing moral support for Wright, suggests that he didn't see a problem with Ant-Man, as it was
At the same time, consider the fact that even Joss Whedon seemingly came up in solidarity with Wright (implied by his twit pic of himself holding a Cornetto cone), suggesting that even he kind of thinks Marvel didn't make the right decision. Keep in mind, Whedon is the one who has been appointed to make sure that all the solo movies fit into the sphere of what he's doing with Avengers. So by him showing moral support for Wright, suggests that he didn't see a problem with Ant-Man, as it was under Wright's vision, clashing with the larger scope of the Avengersverse. Now, of course this is all speculation on my part, and Whedon holding a Cornetto cone is hardly him coming out and saying "Yeah, this was a shitty thing Disney/Marvel just did," but sometimes when you start to read between the lines enough (Wright dropping out, Whedon showing him Moral support, the next 3 directors they showed interest in backing out during negotiations, Disney/Marvel refusing to move back the release date), all of these things point to Disney/Marvel being less concerned with a "creative vision" and more concerned with "making assloads of money, possibly at the expense of an inferior product". I mean, the guy stuck with them through 8 freaking years worth of development, and no matter how Disney/Marvel tries to spin it, he didn't just suddenly after 8 years of work say "My vision is more important than yours and if you aren't going to do it my way then there's nothing left to talk about." Keep in mind, his script had been revised several times over the last 8 years, and he didn't walk until now. This is on Disney/Marvel's shoulders, not Wright's. They backed him into a corner, he got tired of it and he walked.
1:46PM on 06/09/2014
I dont think his connetto trilogy makes him the right candidate for this film anyway. Sure he may be a comic book fan but how many times have we heard directors say that, and then go all stylistic with the material. Sure it is sad that he has had to leave halfway through but I really do not see what all the fuss is about. I consider Martin Campbell a really good director, he rebooted the Bond series twice and did an awesome job and then he made Green Lantern (which I didnt think was that bad)
I dont think his connetto trilogy makes him the right candidate for this film anyway. Sure he may be a comic book fan but how many times have we heard directors say that, and then go all stylistic with the material. Sure it is sad that he has had to leave halfway through but I really do not see what all the fuss is about. I consider Martin Campbell a really good director, he rebooted the Bond series twice and did an awesome job and then he made Green Lantern (which I didnt think was that bad) However a failure when it came to a comic book movie. Marvel know what they want from the film and it is their material so I say let them get on with it.
1:46PM on 06/09/2014
I dont think his connetto trilogy makes him the right candidate for this film anyway. Sure he may be a comic book fan but how many times have we heard directors say that, and then go all stylistic with the material. Sure it is sad that he has had to leave halfway through but I really do not see what all the fuss is about. I consider Martin Campbell a really good director, he rebooted the Bond series twice and did an awesome job and then he made Green Lantern (which I didnt think was that bad)
I dont think his connetto trilogy makes him the right candidate for this film anyway. Sure he may be a comic book fan but how many times have we heard directors say that, and then go all stylistic with the material. Sure it is sad that he has had to leave halfway through but I really do not see what all the fuss is about. I consider Martin Campbell a really good director, he rebooted the Bond series twice and did an awesome job and then he made Green Lantern (which I didnt think was that bad) However a failure when it came to a comic book movie. Marvel know what they want from the film and it is their material so I say let them get on with it.
2:00PM on 06/09/2014
Yea, people are definitely overstating the events. On one hand, it sucks. On the other, it is what is.
Yea, people are definitely overstating the events. On one hand, it sucks. On the other, it is what is.
2:49PM on 06/09/2014
Okay, Joblo, did we really have 100 downvotes from 100 different people?

We don't know what happened. The story that Edgar Wright was adapting dates back to Marvel Premiere #47 and it was published in 1979. Marvel adapted it as a cartoon two years ago for Earth's Mightiest Heroes. So what changed?
Okay, Joblo, did we really have 100 downvotes from 100 different people?

We don't know what happened. The story that Edgar Wright was adapting dates back to Marvel Premiere #47 and it was published in 1979. Marvel adapted it as a cartoon two years ago for Earth's Mightiest Heroes. So what changed?
3:12PM on 06/09/2014
I've never seen 100 down votes. I think some people have been reloading the page just to vote multiple times.
I've never seen 100 down votes. I think some people have been reloading the page just to vote multiple times.
3:42PM on 06/09/2014
100 down votes? I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.
100 down votes? I'm not even mad, I'm impressed.
6:13PM on 06/09/2014
lmao, it capped out at -105 and that was within 10 mins of my post. YA OK! someone definitely is having a coniption fit. (soloist im looking at you lol)
lmao, it capped out at -105 and that was within 10 mins of my post. YA OK! someone definitely is having a coniption fit. (soloist im looking at you lol)
6:52PM on 06/09/2014
Ha. You wish!
Ha. You wish!
12:32PM on 06/09/2014
Well said, Douglas. Disappointing to say the least.
Well said, Douglas. Disappointing to say the least.
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