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01.19.2009

SPIDERMAN 4 will apparently start shooting next year, said J.K. Simmons, who I guess in doing so, confirmed that he will be back to play Daily Bugle pubisher J. Jonah Jameson for the fourth time. This would seem to confirm what we've been hearing about Sony aiming for a 2011 release. No word yet on whether they're aiming for it to not be a gargantuan piece of shit like the last one.

I'm sorry but the only way I'm getting excited about this is if they cast Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Mary Jane Watson. I hate re-casting mid-franchise but she should have had the role from the start. I'd have seen her nipples coming through a wet top by this point, if she had. Damn you, Sony!
Extra Tidbit: Ground corn was actually used as sand in SPIDEY 3.
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5:31PM on 01/21/2009

Under Our Noses

Mary Elizabeth Winstead no thanks. Mary Jane has been under our noses the whole time. And that lady is Sofia Bush. I mean hey she already has the mole, and she looks just like Mary Jane too. Weird !!!!!!!!!!
Mary Elizabeth Winstead no thanks. Mary Jane has been under our noses the whole time. And that lady is Sofia Bush. I mean hey she already has the mole, and she looks just like Mary Jane too. Weird !!!!!!!!!!
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9:26AM on 01/21/2009

IF WE HAVE TO RECAST...

I say just recast Peter Parker with Shia Lebeouf, give Mary Jane a miss on this one with a view to recasting in a possible number 5. AND GIVE US THE LIZARD!!!
I say just recast Peter Parker with Shia Lebeouf, give Mary Jane a miss on this one with a view to recasting in a possible number 5. AND GIVE US THE LIZARD!!!
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1:39PM on 01/20/2009

Theres still hope.

As mind blowing bad as Spidey 3 was,The first and second films were two of the best comic book movies of all time. So I don't think that we should be too worried about a fourth.
And arguably the reason the 3 film was os bad is because Rami wanted to close it up and make it a trilogy, so they tried to cram all the stuff they could into their "last film" now that it's all opened up again I'd say that it will go back to the way the franchise was.
As mind blowing bad as Spidey 3 was,The first and second films were two of the best comic book movies of all time. So I don't think that we should be too worried about a fourth.
And arguably the reason the 3 film was os bad is because Rami wanted to close it up and make it a trilogy, so they tried to cram all the stuff they could into their "last film" now that it's all opened up again I'd say that it will go back to the way the franchise was.
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11:20AM on 01/20/2009
reboot like punisher? hard to do 4th flick in, but may be necessary.
reboot like punisher? hard to do 4th flick in, but may be necessary.
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5:50AM on 01/20/2009
Spidey 3 was not -that- bad. I mean it was great, and is definitely the worst of the three, but it wasn't -that- bad. I'm still going to be looking forward to 4.

Although a recast might be ok..
Spidey 3 was not -that- bad. I mean it was great, and is definitely the worst of the three, but it wasn't -that- bad. I'm still going to be looking forward to 4.

Although a recast might be ok..
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5:47AM on 01/20/2009
I say reboot. Not as in The Dark Knight reboot (drama) but reboot in Spider-Man kind of way. Make it more energetic and perhaps all new casts are necessary for the 4th film. Spider-Man 3 is not the best but not the worst either. But let's be honest: Spider-Man 3 pretty much put the final nail in this franchise's coffin. What it needs is a reboot or reimagine or whatever terms they're using these days. Personally I want to see Tony Stark cameo and ask Spider-Man to be on his side in Civil War,
I say reboot. Not as in The Dark Knight reboot (drama) but reboot in Spider-Man kind of way. Make it more energetic and perhaps all new casts are necessary for the 4th film. Spider-Man 3 is not the best but not the worst either. But let's be honest: Spider-Man 3 pretty much put the final nail in this franchise's coffin. What it needs is a reboot or reimagine or whatever terms they're using these days. Personally I want to see Tony Stark cameo and ask Spider-Man to be on his side in Civil War, hahaha.
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3:03AM on 01/20/2009

YAWN...

Isn't Tobey too old to still be playing this? Yeah I loved Spider-Man 1 and 2, hated 3 because of how they handled Venom, but come on...how the heck is Tobey STILL Spider-Man? Recast? I say reboot!
Isn't Tobey too old to still be playing this? Yeah I loved Spider-Man 1 and 2, hated 3 because of how they handled Venom, but come on...how the heck is Tobey STILL Spider-Man? Recast? I say reboot!
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11:30PM on 01/19/2009
just recast this. raimi and company had 3 movies, let someone else take a shot at it
just recast this. raimi and company had 3 movies, let someone else take a shot at it
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11:09PM on 01/19/2009
i saw every spidey film opening night and each one underwhelmed me.


I'll still give it one more shot but I really could give a fuck at this point unless it's recast.

I can't stand Tobey McGuire as Parker.
i saw every spidey film opening night and each one underwhelmed me.


I'll still give it one more shot but I really could give a fuck at this point unless it's recast.

I can't stand Tobey McGuire as Parker.
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10:27PM on 01/19/2009
Terminator 3 - Piece of shit.

Terminator 4 - Entirely new cast. Directed by McG of all people. Seemed like the absolute worst idea in the fucking world. Then the trailers arrived.

Just saying, Spidey 4 could go the same way.
Terminator 3 - Piece of shit.

Terminator 4 - Entirely new cast. Directed by McG of all people. Seemed like the absolute worst idea in the fucking world. Then the trailers arrived.

Just saying, Spidey 4 could go the same way.
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10:26PM on 01/19/2009
I know I'm in the minority but I loved Spider-man 3. Like most people I was extremely disappointed with the way Venom was handled, but other than that, I thought the movie itself was very good and I'm extremely excited about the fourth one.
I know I'm in the minority but I loved Spider-man 3. Like most people I was extremely disappointed with the way Venom was handled, but other than that, I thought the movie itself was very good and I'm extremely excited about the fourth one.
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10:13PM on 01/19/2009
Well said "AYESTRAIN"

i think a lot of us are still angry about spidey 3 because of the marketing. I gotta tell ya, it looked like the best movie on earth, and that trailer was a year before the film actually premiered.

So for a week ya i was legitimately devastated that i was waiting for years for a big pile of shit. I watched it over and over trying to like it, but it was hopeless.

Spiderman 3 was shit

BUT im pretty positive they can turn this around.

Alot of us are skeptical
Well said "AYESTRAIN"

i think a lot of us are still angry about spidey 3 because of the marketing. I gotta tell ya, it looked like the best movie on earth, and that trailer was a year before the film actually premiered.

So for a week ya i was legitimately devastated that i was waiting for years for a big pile of shit. I watched it over and over trying to like it, but it was hopeless.

Spiderman 3 was shit

BUT im pretty positive they can turn this around.

Alot of us are skeptical cuz in that film no one did well, the script was horrid, story didnt make any sense (( due to studio intervention)), and the actors looked bored, uninterested and put NO effort into it.

But each to his own, lets just hope they learned :
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10:10PM on 01/19/2009

Spidey 3 Hatorade ICEY BLUE flavor

You haters on here are so full of Cow Shit. As flawed as Spiderman 3 is, It's no where near as bad as some of you make it out to be. I'm a hardcore Spiderman fan and I did felt that Raimi mishandled the material terribly but the film was still a pretty good film. If I knew nothing about Venom/Eddie Brock and the Origin of the symbiote, I would've overlooked the other minor flaws and would have thought the film was fantastic. But I am a harcore fanatic and so alot of things did bother me, but
You haters on here are so full of Cow Shit. As flawed as Spiderman 3 is, It's no where near as bad as some of you make it out to be. I'm a hardcore Spiderman fan and I did felt that Raimi mishandled the material terribly but the film was still a pretty good film. If I knew nothing about Venom/Eddie Brock and the Origin of the symbiote, I would've overlooked the other minor flaws and would have thought the film was fantastic. But I am a harcore fanatic and so alot of things did bother me, but for me to say that the film is horrible is just plain ridiculous. You truly want to see a bad film. A film so painstakingly irritating that it hurts your brain to even hear its name after you've watched even 10 minutes of it... Go see RACHELS GETTING MARRIED!!! If you don't kill yourself after seeing this pile of shitaloid... You can come back on here and truthfully say you've seen a bad film.
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9:28PM on 01/19/2009

Why's everyone so fucking negative?

I know it's hip to pile on Spiderman 3, and while it's easily the least of the 3 films, the fact that it wasn't the greatest movie ever made didn't ruin my life or anything.

3 reeks of studio intervention, suffers from a crammed-full script and dorky moments, and yes they botched Venom badly, but it's not even close to the worst of the comic book films.

Spiderman as a character also has tons of great storylines and villains they can play with. I'm hopeful they'll get this franchise back
I know it's hip to pile on Spiderman 3, and while it's easily the least of the 3 films, the fact that it wasn't the greatest movie ever made didn't ruin my life or anything.

3 reeks of studio intervention, suffers from a crammed-full script and dorky moments, and yes they botched Venom badly, but it's not even close to the worst of the comic book films.

Spiderman as a character also has tons of great storylines and villains they can play with. I'm hopeful they'll get this franchise back on track with the next 2 or 3.
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9:21PM on 01/19/2009
"No word yet on whether they're aiming for it to not be a gargantuan piece of shit like the last one."

HAHAHA

agreed.
"No word yet on whether they're aiming for it to not be a gargantuan piece of shit like the last one."

HAHAHA

agreed.
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9:12PM on 01/19/2009
Another Spidey movie? Why should I be excited?
Another Spidey movie? Why should I be excited?
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7:35PM on 01/19/2009
After walking out of Spidey 3, I told myself that I would never see another Raimi/Maguire/Dunst spiderman movie in theaters.

They will have to do a hell of a lot to change my stance.
After walking out of Spidey 3, I told myself that I would never see another Raimi/Maguire/Dunst spiderman movie in theaters.

They will have to do a hell of a lot to change my stance.
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6:53PM on 01/19/2009

x-kid / Paulie

I have to say i agree with you both which is why im neutral

spidey 1 and 2 were fantastic and i hope 4 is basically their redemption.

BUT if marvel studios could dish out multi-millions to get the rights back they could and would do better than Raimi or SONY could ever do.

On that note we just gotta wait and see and hope they recognize their biggest mistakes i.e. spidey 3
I have to say i agree with you both which is why im neutral

spidey 1 and 2 were fantastic and i hope 4 is basically their redemption.

BUT if marvel studios could dish out multi-millions to get the rights back they could and would do better than Raimi or SONY could ever do.

On that note we just gotta wait and see and hope they recognize their biggest mistakes i.e. spidey 3
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6:26PM on 01/19/2009
The only way I'm getting excited about this is if Marvel Studios get the rights. Where it belongs.
The only way I'm getting excited about this is if Marvel Studios get the rights. Where it belongs.
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6:04PM on 01/19/2009

SPIDERMAN 4

I'M JUST GLAD THAT THIS IS MOVING FOWARD, I DON'T SEE THIS FILM AS ANOTHER POSSIBLE FAILURE BUT AS A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WAS SPIDERMAN 3, THIS IS THE CHANCE TO LOOK BACK AND LEARN FROM THEI MISTAKES AND GET BACK ON TRACK AND MAKE ANOTHER GREAT SPIDERMAN MOVIE, I SAY ANOTHER BECAUSE SPIDERMAN 2 REALLY SET THE STANDARD FOR MANY FILMS WE'VE SEEN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND IS STILL PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE BEST COMIC BOOK FILMS OF ALL TIME.

I'M JUST GLAD THAT THIS IS MOVING FOWARD, I DON'T SEE THIS FILM AS ANOTHER POSSIBLE FAILURE BUT AS A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WAS SPIDERMAN 3, THIS IS THE CHANCE TO LOOK BACK AND LEARN FROM THEI MISTAKES AND GET BACK ON TRACK AND MAKE ANOTHER GREAT SPIDERMAN MOVIE, I SAY ANOTHER BECAUSE SPIDERMAN 2 REALLY SET THE STANDARD FOR MANY FILMS WE'VE SEEN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND IS STILL PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE BEST COMIC BOOK FILMS OF ALL TIME.

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6:00PM on 01/19/2009

no thanks...

if Mary Elizabeth Winstead is casted as Mary Jane, I'll watch.

Number 2 was the only good one.
if Mary Elizabeth Winstead is casted as Mary Jane, I'll watch.

Number 2 was the only good one.
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5:14PM on 01/19/2009

Tobey Blows Ass

the Spider Man movies are such Overrated shit...

Tobey isn't Spider Man...and Dunst isn't Mary Jane...
the Spider Man movies are such Overrated shit...

Tobey isn't Spider Man...and Dunst isn't Mary Jane...
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5:13PM on 01/19/2009

um i read the comics..

someone down there decided to say tht spidey 3 was more like the comic and some of us dont like it cuz we never read one...

WRONG!!

Im an avid reader of spidey, it comes out 3 times a week and ive been following it for many years. I NEVER judge these films to the comics, i judge them on quality and accuracy of the characters themselves.. everything else is subject to change, hence the word ADAPTATION

SPIDEY 3 WAS NOT COMIC-BOOKY!!! It was bad.

Since when is campiness, awful
someone down there decided to say tht spidey 3 was more like the comic and some of us dont like it cuz we never read one...

WRONG!!

Im an avid reader of spidey, it comes out 3 times a week and ive been following it for many years. I NEVER judge these films to the comics, i judge them on quality and accuracy of the characters themselves.. everything else is subject to change, hence the word ADAPTATION

SPIDEY 3 WAS NOT COMIC-BOOKY!!! It was bad.

Since when is campiness, awful writing, and overall shit continuity closely related to comic books? Some have rough runs but spidey isnt one of em.. get ur shit straight guys, it was an EMBARRASSMENT to the comic not the closest adaptation of one
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4:44PM on 01/19/2009
I would definitely like it if they re-cast Mary Elizabeth Winstead as M.J. I always thought Kirsten Dunst was such a boring actress.
I would definitely like it if they re-cast Mary Elizabeth Winstead as M.J. I always thought Kirsten Dunst was such a boring actress.
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4:24PM on 01/19/2009

hmmm...morbius? bad idea.

i think the next logical story would involve the Lizard and Kraven.
i think the next logical story would involve the Lizard and Kraven.
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4:03PM on 01/19/2009

Spidey 4... yay??

I like the idea of another Spiderman but i think they really need to come through on this one... not like the shit show that was the 3rd. Granted I did buy it when it came out on DVD, but more for continuity than anything. I remember hearing about the idea of Supernatural vs. Spidey with Morbius, personally, I think that's a bad idea. I think for them to pull this off they need to stop it with the idea of having 2-3 Villains in one movie. Either have Dr. Connors(Lizard Man), hell even Carnage
I like the idea of another Spiderman but i think they really need to come through on this one... not like the shit show that was the 3rd. Granted I did buy it when it came out on DVD, but more for continuity than anything. I remember hearing about the idea of Supernatural vs. Spidey with Morbius, personally, I think that's a bad idea. I think for them to pull this off they need to stop it with the idea of having 2-3 Villains in one movie. Either have Dr. Connors(Lizard Man), hell even Carnage AS LONG AS HE DOESNT LOOK LIKE VENOM IN SPIDEY 3. There are so many things you can do with Spiderman but things always seemed to be ruined especially when you get a random SONG in the middle of the movie.
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3:50PM on 01/19/2009

I love the idea of Winstead

I think Winstead would be great for the role of MJ. I just would like to see someone besides Raimi take control of the fate of the Webslinger. He had his shot and really messed it up. We would all say the same of Nolan if Dark Knight wouldnīt have blown our minds. Tobey - ok but donīt be an emo dancing wanna be this time. Raimi - find a new project.

I also think the movie should revolve around just ONE villain, we already know Raimi can do that really well (1 and 2) so instead of having 2.5
I think Winstead would be great for the role of MJ. I just would like to see someone besides Raimi take control of the fate of the Webslinger. He had his shot and really messed it up. We would all say the same of Nolan if Dark Knight wouldnīt have blown our minds. Tobey - ok but donīt be an emo dancing wanna be this time. Raimi - find a new project.

I also think the movie should revolve around just ONE villain, we already know Raimi can do that really well (1 and 2) so instead of having 2.5 like spidey 3, stick to one and make it great so us fans can talk with pride about Spiderman again.
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3:43PM on 01/19/2009
Spiderman 3 wasnt that bad at all, it felt more like a comic book then any other marvel movie. All you haters need to stop being pathetic, and admit the movie was at least entertaining, because deep down inside you all know its true. Sure it wasnt as well made as the other 2, and the acting stunk, but you all know that the movie had awesome special effects and some of the best action scenes of any marvel movie. Plus none of you probably never read a Spiderman comic book in your life to justify
Spiderman 3 wasnt that bad at all, it felt more like a comic book then any other marvel movie. All you haters need to stop being pathetic, and admit the movie was at least entertaining, because deep down inside you all know its true. Sure it wasnt as well made as the other 2, and the acting stunk, but you all know that the movie had awesome special effects and some of the best action scenes of any marvel movie. Plus none of you probably never read a Spiderman comic book in your life to justify that your opinion is creditable.
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3:33PM on 01/19/2009

Honestly

I could care less if there is a Spider-Man 4. With films like The Dark Knight and Iron Man breaking comic book barriers, it would really need to take sam raimi some real magic for me to want to watch it.
I could care less if there is a Spider-Man 4. With films like The Dark Knight and Iron Man breaking comic book barriers, it would really need to take sam raimi some real magic for me to want to watch it.
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3:27PM on 01/19/2009
Reg-"No word yet on whether they're aiming for it to not be a gargantuan piece of shit like the last one." LOL , well put Thoo.
Reg-"No word yet on whether they're aiming for it to not be a gargantuan piece of shit like the last one." LOL , well put Thoo.
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2:25PM on 01/19/2009

is uncle ben still dead?


is uncle ben still dead?

is uncle ben still dead?
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2:19PM on 01/19/2009

but...

thats why im neutral, cuz for all i know tobey and kirsten will take acting classes and get in good shape with this film and Raimi hopefully wont fold under pressure from sony

I just wish marvel didnt almost go under in 1999 and give up their 2 biggest film franchises to 2 studios that ruin them in the 3rd run and try to cash in with later installments

((xmen to FOX spiderman to SONY))

Marvel studios could totally fix them if they had the cash to buy back their property :(
thats why im neutral, cuz for all i know tobey and kirsten will take acting classes and get in good shape with this film and Raimi hopefully wont fold under pressure from sony

I just wish marvel didnt almost go under in 1999 and give up their 2 biggest film franchises to 2 studios that ruin them in the 3rd run and try to cash in with later installments

((xmen to FOX spiderman to SONY))

Marvel studios could totally fix them if they had the cash to buy back their property :(
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2:17PM on 01/19/2009

but...

thats why im neutral, cuz for all i know tobey and kirsten will take acting classes and get in good shape with this film and Raimi hopefully wont fold under pressure from sony

I just wish marvel didnt almost go under in 1999 and give up their 2 biggest film franchises to 2 studios that ruin them in the 3rd run and try to cash in with later installments

((xmen to FOX spiderman to SONY))

Marvel studios could totally fix them if they had the cash to buy back their property :(
thats why im neutral, cuz for all i know tobey and kirsten will take acting classes and get in good shape with this film and Raimi hopefully wont fold under pressure from sony

I just wish marvel didnt almost go under in 1999 and give up their 2 biggest film franchises to 2 studios that ruin them in the 3rd run and try to cash in with later installments

((xmen to FOX spiderman to SONY))

Marvel studios could totally fix them if they had the cash to buy back their property :(
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2:14PM on 01/19/2009

SpartanLonewolf

I agree with you dude. Unfortunately though sony will never share rights with marvel so i doubt they'll ever recognize eachothers existence anytime soon

And WALLEBE10... im not trying to bust ur bubble, cuz on some level i did enjoy the film, but dude it was atrocious, the acting was totally mundane and lacking, the screenplay was rushed and completely jumbled with plot holes...

i respect others opinion but there is a reason why this film stopped making its cash after 2 weeks, EVEN
I agree with you dude. Unfortunately though sony will never share rights with marvel so i doubt they'll ever recognize eachothers existence anytime soon

And WALLEBE10... im not trying to bust ur bubble, cuz on some level i did enjoy the film, but dude it was atrocious, the acting was totally mundane and lacking, the screenplay was rushed and completely jumbled with plot holes...

i respect others opinion but there is a reason why this film stopped making its cash after 2 weeks, EVEN THOUGH it DID make a shitload in those 2 weeks, they cant think ppl are that dumb that they will forget a bad film.

Thats wat happend with hulk, made just under a million less the Ang Lee version did, but opened in fewer theaters

Regardless SONY needs to get their act together, 3 was disgraceful for anyone over 12 years old. I know some of you guys giv it alot of leeway but i was one of you too

I wanted to like it but watched all 3 and just saw how 3 was a fall from grace =
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2:09PM on 01/19/2009
Spidey 3 was a good movie. Seriously, you guys treat it like it was Batman & Robin or something.
Spidey 3 was a good movie. Seriously, you guys treat it like it was Batman & Robin or something.
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2:06PM on 01/19/2009

HOW TO AVOID SEQUEL-ITIS

If Marvel wants to avoid another shitty sequel like Spider-Man 3, here what they should do:

1) Drop the '4'. Get a new cast and crew.
2) Adapt one of Spider-Man's greatest stories for the screenplay, revolving on only 1 villain. If you need filler, use common crooks and not overwhelm the movie with too many characters like they did with 3.
3)Integrate Spider-Man into the movie continuum setup by Iron Man.
If Marvel wants to avoid another shitty sequel like Spider-Man 3, here what they should do:

1) Drop the '4'. Get a new cast and crew.
2) Adapt one of Spider-Man's greatest stories for the screenplay, revolving on only 1 villain. If you need filler, use common crooks and not overwhelm the movie with too many characters like they did with 3.
3)Integrate Spider-Man into the movie continuum setup by Iron Man.
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2:00PM on 01/19/2009

Disappointed

COULDNT AGREE MORE JOBLO

As far as I'm concerned the only person that should have returned was J.K. Simmons.

I enjoyed Tobey for the 1st one, the 2nd one i loved but not so much cuz of Tobey.. and well 3 sucked ass even though i know theres gonna be 1 or 2 people that say otherwise

I know Raimi did a good job on 1 and 2, but 3 was a HUGE alienation on the franchise, which wasnt necessarily his fault, but everyone in that film was horrid due to the poorly written screenplay by
COULDNT AGREE MORE JOBLO

As far as I'm concerned the only person that should have returned was J.K. Simmons.

I enjoyed Tobey for the 1st one, the 2nd one i loved but not so much cuz of Tobey.. and well 3 sucked ass even though i know theres gonna be 1 or 2 people that say otherwise

I know Raimi did a good job on 1 and 2, but 3 was a HUGE alienation on the franchise, which wasnt necessarily his fault, but everyone in that film was horrid due to the poorly written screenplay by Raimi.

James Franco's first line "tell that to my father.. raise him from the dead!"

EVEN ON PAPER (( or type.. )) THAT SUCKS!!!

They better go into a diff. direction cuz im sick and tired of the crappy formula : Not so bad guy becomes not so good guy and MJ gets captured.. rinse and repeat

I totally wish mary elizabeth winstead was MJ instead, better actress, more fitting for the role, and kirsten dunst just comes across as a pasty bitch in the films.... sigh.. just really disappointed
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1:54PM on 01/19/2009

Tobey better workout for this movie!

You know, I am glad to see that Tobey will be in this movie, but I think he got a little to comfortable with the role and cheaped on the proper spidey physique... So, come on Tobey, you haven't worked since the latest - so know that without Spidey you're "washed up" so get your a$$ in tip top shape!
You know, I am glad to see that Tobey will be in this movie, but I think he got a little to comfortable with the role and cheaped on the proper spidey physique... So, come on Tobey, you haven't worked since the latest - so know that without Spidey you're "washed up" so get your a$$ in tip top shape!
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