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Terry Gilliam was not impressed by Transformers

11.28.2011

Terry Gilliam could never be accused of making boring or ordinary films. While some people may not completely understand the vision the director creates, it's wonderful to see what he does create when he paints his canvas.

Gilliam may feel like the world of cinema is more concerned with instant gratification than a deeper meaning. “The thing is, some really good scripts come my way, but there’s nothing in them for me to come to grips with, they are complete in themselves. There’s no uncertainty. I don’t look for answers; I look for questions. I like when people leave the cinema and feel like the world has been altered for them somewhat. On ‘Brazil,’ I know a woman who said she saw the film, went home and later that night she just started weeping. I also heard about an attorney who saw the film and then locked himself in his office for three days. Fantastic. On ‘Fisher King,’ I know specifically of a woman in New York who saw it and then walked 20 blocks on her way home and realized she was walking in the wrong direction. Movies used to do that to me, but they don’t do that to me anymore.”

Example? TRANSFORMERS. Gilliam tried but ultimately the experience left him with a sad feeling.“You just sit there and watch the explosions. I couldn’t tell you what the movie was about. The movie hammers the audience into submission. They are influenced by video games, but in video games at least you are immersed; in these movies you’re left out. In films, there’s so much overt fantasy now that I don’t watch a lot because everything is possible now. There’s no tension there. People can slide down the side of a building that’s falling and they don’t get ripped to shreds? The shots are amazing, but if there is no consequence, no gravity, what’s the point? I can’t watch Hollywood movies anymore. There’s no room for me.”

Okay, so maybe Gilliam wasn't a child of the 80s who was in love with transforming robots. The Transformers are simply just nostalgia and fun. There's always a place for that. But it would be nice to get a little more substance from films, especially if they make you walk 20 blocks in the wrong direction.

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11:27PM on 11/30/2011
Let me cite one of my teacher: "It is alright to go to the movies to watch films like Transformers 1,2,8,17 and the next 153 they'll make over the next few years. But it's not alright to only see that kind of movies. That will kill the art, that will kill your soul and your integrity as a human being, because that would mean that you are surrenduring to the easiest path."
Let me cite one of my teacher: "It is alright to go to the movies to watch films like Transformers 1,2,8,17 and the next 153 they'll make over the next few years. But it's not alright to only see that kind of movies. That will kill the art, that will kill your soul and your integrity as a human being, because that would mean that you are surrenduring to the easiest path."
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3:53PM on 11/30/2011
The first Transformers movie was so terrible I didn't bother watching the other two. And I do enjoy watching "popcorn" films. I always find it funny when people make excuses for bad movies saying that they're not supposed to be smart or "festival" films. That doesn't mean the film should get away with being bad. Jurassic Park is a popcorn movie, and it's a damn good movie. There are tons of great popcorn flicks out there, but Transformers is not one of them. It's just a bad movie. It's boring.
The first Transformers movie was so terrible I didn't bother watching the other two. And I do enjoy watching "popcorn" films. I always find it funny when people make excuses for bad movies saying that they're not supposed to be smart or "festival" films. That doesn't mean the film should get away with being bad. Jurassic Park is a popcorn movie, and it's a damn good movie. There are tons of great popcorn flicks out there, but Transformers is not one of them. It's just a bad movie. It's boring.
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11:49PM on 11/29/2011

No Consequence

That is why The Dark Knight was so awesome. Who actually saw Rachels death coming? All other "action" movies are so stupid because you know that no matter what; no one important will die.
That is why The Dark Knight was so awesome. Who actually saw Rachels death coming? All other "action" movies are so stupid because you know that no matter what; no one important will die.
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6:35PM on 11/29/2011

Uhh...

Based on the kind of behavior happening in these comments, from the responses some are receiving, to the likes/dislikes people are getting because of what they say, something has been made incredibly clear to me.

We live in a world where everyone believes their opinion is fact, and all whom oppose must be crazy, or wrong etc and have their character assassinated and very being discredited for not conforming to an altruistic viewpoint.

Let's get something straight. They're opinions, not
Based on the kind of behavior happening in these comments, from the responses some are receiving, to the likes/dislikes people are getting because of what they say, something has been made incredibly clear to me.

We live in a world where everyone believes their opinion is fact, and all whom oppose must be crazy, or wrong etc and have their character assassinated and very being discredited for not conforming to an altruistic viewpoint.

Let's get something straight. They're opinions, not facts. To say someone's library of films are "shitty" is completely subjective and not of any factual substance. Why? Because there are others who enjoy said films.

It's the same kind of thing as SlashFilm trying to cite RottenTomatoes aggregation of reviews like some kind of irrefutable source of facts on a film's quality, or someone saying the IMDB Top 250 films are in fact, the best films ever made.

It's all opinion. Stop getting so upset over it, sheesh. Learn to accept that not everyone thinks the same god damn way you might.
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10:29PM on 11/29/2011
I like what you are getting at, but some of the commenters here have tried to make it seem like if you (or I or whomever) didn't like the "Trasnformers" franchise, we must be stuck up and only like high art films. That's wrong, and I think the people (myself included) reacted vehemently against that. Doing so, we might have gone too far though.
I like what you are getting at, but some of the commenters here have tried to make it seem like if you (or I or whomever) didn't like the "Trasnformers" franchise, we must be stuck up and only like high art films. That's wrong, and I think the people (myself included) reacted vehemently against that. Doing so, we might have gone too far though.
4:09PM on 11/29/2011
wow seems people are very opiniated about the subject, if you are agreeing with Gilliam you get a thumbs up, if you are defending Transformers or Bay you get a thumb down, how typical. Can't say Gilliam is right or wrong about his own opinion though. Seems kinda wrong for one director to criticize another's work.
wow seems people are very opiniated about the subject, if you are agreeing with Gilliam you get a thumbs up, if you are defending Transformers or Bay you get a thumb down, how typical. Can't say Gilliam is right or wrong about his own opinion though. Seems kinda wrong for one director to criticize another's work.
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4:08PM on 11/29/2011
Oh noo, something completely NEW AND UNIQUE, regarding comments... We never heard that kind of stuff.. no really.

All I can say to stuff like that: I'm so happy I personally am able to enjoy both kind of movies. A Transformers (2 and 3 were bad unfortuantely), love Bay movies. As well as Tree of Life.
I really pity all those people who can just watch one kind (either "deep and meaningful" or "just fun")
Oh noo, something completely NEW AND UNIQUE, regarding comments... We never heard that kind of stuff.. no really.

All I can say to stuff like that: I'm so happy I personally am able to enjoy both kind of movies. A Transformers (2 and 3 were bad unfortuantely), love Bay movies. As well as Tree of Life.
I really pity all those people who can just watch one kind (either "deep and meaningful" or "just fun")
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3:18PM on 11/29/2011
Gillaim is entirely correct! As for the "Transformers" movies, they are neither fun nor nostalgic. I understand having to modernize them, but between three films, of 6 total hours (or there about), there's maybe 2 and a half hours worth of anything Transformer-y. Why do the title characters have supporting roles in their own fucking films? Moreover, geography and continuity during the fight scenes are more important. Most importantly, why did a human go to robot heaven, but a robot dying to
Gillaim is entirely correct! As for the "Transformers" movies, they are neither fun nor nostalgic. I understand having to modernize them, but between three films, of 6 total hours (or there about), there's maybe 2 and a half hours worth of anything Transformer-y. Why do the title characters have supporting roles in their own fucking films? Moreover, geography and continuity during the fight scenes are more important. Most importantly, why did a human go to robot heaven, but a robot dying to save said human did not? Fuck that franchise.

Now, to anyone who shall say, "It's only a popcorn flick, man. Turn your brain off." I know, and I am all for dumb fun, within reason. "Shoot 'Em Up" was tons of fun for me, and it's the pure definition of popcorn flick (Clive Owen kills a guy with a carrot!!). I am not against popcorn fun, I am against being insulted (racist robots), continuity issues within one film/franchise (robot heaven, where were the Transformers from the second movie in the third), visual awful (some of the worst action scenes ever. Literally headache inducing).
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2:44PM on 11/29/2011

Have you watched a Terry Gilliam film?

There is nothing realistic about them...but don't get me wrong, they are terrific films!
There is nothing realistic about them...but don't get me wrong, they are terrific films!
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10:28AM on 11/29/2011

Whenever someone defends Transformers . . .

as a popcorn flick w giant robots fighting this is my rebuttal ----> [link]
as a popcorn flick w giant robots fighting this is my rebuttal ----> [link]
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9:10AM on 11/29/2011
I love Gilliam's films but I still don't think he should be bashing others. Not all his films have been masterpieces either. Sure they have substance but if someone likes "Transformers", that's their choice and not yours to question.
I love Gilliam's films but I still don't think he should be bashing others. Not all his films have been masterpieces either. Sure they have substance but if someone likes "Transformers", that's their choice and not yours to question.
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11:11AM on 11/29/2011
Just as it's fine for you to say he shouldn't be "bashing" other films, it's fine for him to give his opinion as well. Maybe more so as he is a working and somewhat legendary filmmaker. I think it's great when people in the business are honest. He wasn't mean. He didn't actually bash anyone he just said there wasn't any room for him and that he didn't feel the need to watch Hollywood movies anymore. I can't blame him.
Just as it's fine for you to say he shouldn't be "bashing" other films, it's fine for him to give his opinion as well. Maybe more so as he is a working and somewhat legendary filmmaker. I think it's great when people in the business are honest. He wasn't mean. He didn't actually bash anyone he just said there wasn't any room for him and that he didn't feel the need to watch Hollywood movies anymore. I can't blame him.
8:18AM on 11/29/2011
I can't consider the current Transformers movies to be a nostalgic thing, personally. They bear little relation to the cartoon/comics I used to love when I was a kid. Bay's Transformers movies are obnoxious toss. Impressive effects, yes, but nothing of value or meaning. I consider Bay's trilogy to be a failure with regards to what could be done with Transformers, regardless of the ridiculous amount of money they've made. Crass, shallow nonsense.
I can't consider the current Transformers movies to be a nostalgic thing, personally. They bear little relation to the cartoon/comics I used to love when I was a kid. Bay's Transformers movies are obnoxious toss. Impressive effects, yes, but nothing of value or meaning. I consider Bay's trilogy to be a failure with regards to what could be done with Transformers, regardless of the ridiculous amount of money they've made. Crass, shallow nonsense.
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7:58AM on 11/29/2011
I wonder what he has to say about the Twilight Saga.
I wonder what he has to say about the Twilight Saga.
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4:14AM on 11/29/2011
It's sad that this fine man will be gone when I begin filmmaking, I have some stuff he would like.
It's sad that this fine man will be gone when I begin filmmaking, I have some stuff he would like.
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3:25AM on 11/29/2011
I dug Dark of the Moon and adore Gilliam. He's made some amazing stuff -- films that rank in my all time favorites. Gilliam dabbled in the Hollywood studio system and made great films in the process, but ultimately it was a doomed relationship. They just weren't made for each other and I think both are better off doing their own thing. Gilliam speaks the truth, but with my feelings as they are - reading the article, it kind of felt like I was the son of divorced parents and was listening to dad
I dug Dark of the Moon and adore Gilliam. He's made some amazing stuff -- films that rank in my all time favorites. Gilliam dabbled in the Hollywood studio system and made great films in the process, but ultimately it was a doomed relationship. They just weren't made for each other and I think both are better off doing their own thing. Gilliam speaks the truth, but with my feelings as they are - reading the article, it kind of felt like I was the son of divorced parents and was listening to dad ripping on mom's boob job.
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2:16AM on 11/29/2011
A lot of people give Gilliam crap, but I completely respect the guy. He has an absolute love for cinema and continues to follow his vision. Yes, his films often time don't succeed, but he stays true to his way of cinema and gains some true fans for this.
A lot of people give Gilliam crap, but I completely respect the guy. He has an absolute love for cinema and continues to follow his vision. Yes, his films often time don't succeed, but he stays true to his way of cinema and gains some true fans for this.
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2:01AM on 11/29/2011

I guess I'm just open to more types of movies then

there's nothing wrong with a popcorn flick in my mind, whatsoever.
there's nothing wrong with a popcorn flick in my mind, whatsoever.
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1:49AM on 11/29/2011
He makes a lot of sense. I'm a big Transformers fan, as in the old cartoon, very much a child of the 80's, but these movies hardly felt nostalgic at all. My main gripe about the TF films is that its supposed to about the Transformers, they are the main characters, the movies were about an annoying young man who just happens to friends with robots. Theres something wrong with a movie when an animated version over 20 years old can bring up more emotion and excitement than a multi-million dollar
He makes a lot of sense. I'm a big Transformers fan, as in the old cartoon, very much a child of the 80's, but these movies hardly felt nostalgic at all. My main gripe about the TF films is that its supposed to about the Transformers, they are the main characters, the movies were about an annoying young man who just happens to friends with robots. Theres something wrong with a movie when an animated version over 20 years old can bring up more emotion and excitement than a multi-million dollar recent version.
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12:30AM on 11/29/2011
I generally don't like directors commenting on 'how bad the state of things are', but I honestly couldn't agree more.
I generally don't like directors commenting on 'how bad the state of things are', but I honestly couldn't agree more.
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12:22AM on 11/29/2011

As a child of the 80s who loved transforming Robots

2 of favorite films this year cost less than the catering on Transformers. SUPER and ATTACK THE BLOCK. Those movies had consequences!
2 of favorite films this year cost less than the catering on Transformers. SUPER and ATTACK THE BLOCK. Those movies had consequences!
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5:07AM on 11/29/2011
Honestly, the TV show doesn't even hold up that well today. Pretty much the only two from this genre that do are ROBOTECH and VOLTRON.
Honestly, the TV show doesn't even hold up that well today. Pretty much the only two from this genre that do are ROBOTECH and VOLTRON.
11:11PM on 11/28/2011
Some of you people really need to check out the list of quality movies a director like Gilliam has made. While they may not all be box office gems some of them are absolute classics. I loved "The Fisher King" and "Brazil" or what about his work with Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail. I have watched all 3 transformers movies and have hated all of them. I am not against these types of movies and in fact love a good popcorn blockbuster but these three films just plain sucked. Why
Some of you people really need to check out the list of quality movies a director like Gilliam has made. While they may not all be box office gems some of them are absolute classics. I loved "The Fisher King" and "Brazil" or what about his work with Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail. I have watched all 3 transformers movies and have hated all of them. I am not against these types of movies and in fact love a good popcorn blockbuster but these three films just plain sucked. Why can't we get an over the top action movie with plot and substance.
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11:07PM on 11/28/2011
Well its his opinion and he's entitled to it. But I don't agree. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a Michael Bay film, and sometimes I'll want to watch a Gilliam film. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel the same way.
Well its his opinion and he's entitled to it. But I don't agree. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a Michael Bay film, and sometimes I'll want to watch a Gilliam film. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel the same way.
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5:02AM on 11/29/2011
The problem is too many people are ALWAYS in the mood for a Bay movie and never for one by an auteur type that's not a mere 'quick fix.' As I always say, why settle for a Whopper if you can get filet mignon for the same price? : P
The problem is too many people are ALWAYS in the mood for a Bay movie and never for one by an auteur type that's not a mere 'quick fix.' As I always say, why settle for a Whopper if you can get filet mignon for the same price? : P
1:13PM on 11/29/2011
I agree, save for the "Transformers" franchise. I own all of Akira Kurosawa's films, most of Gilliam's, AND Bay's "The Island", (the first) "Bad Boys", "Armageddon", and "The Rock". I enjoy all of those. Bay's TF movies though are so bad they hurt.
I agree, save for the "Transformers" franchise. I own all of Akira Kurosawa's films, most of Gilliam's, AND Bay's "The Island", (the first) "Bad Boys", "Armageddon", and "The Rock". I enjoy all of those. Bay's TF movies though are so bad they hurt.
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10:44PM on 11/28/2011
Absolutely. Guys like Gilliam make quality movies. Most of Hollywood is focused on churning out empty distraction in 2 hour chunks.
Absolutely. Guys like Gilliam make quality movies. Most of Hollywood is focused on churning out empty distraction in 2 hour chunks.
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10:00PM on 11/28/2011
I gotta say that Gilliam has made boring movies in the form of The Brothers Grimm and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I can't stay awake in those movies. The Transformers were all about defying physics and enjoying the explosions.
I gotta say that Gilliam has made boring movies in the form of The Brothers Grimm and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I can't stay awake in those movies. The Transformers were all about defying physics and enjoying the explosions.
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11:12PM on 11/28/2011
Hell yes.
Hell yes.
11:46PM on 11/28/2011
I could agree with you if you didn't say Fear and Loathing was boring, I love that movie, boring is the last word I would use to describe it.
I could agree with you if you didn't say Fear and Loathing was boring, I love that movie, boring is the last word I would use to describe it.
1:10PM on 11/29/2011
At least in "The Brothers Grimm" action scenes, I could tell what was happening.
At least in "The Brothers Grimm" action scenes, I could tell what was happening.
10:00PM on 11/28/2011
It looks like the shot of Gilliam is what his face looks like during his vinegar strokes.
It looks like the shot of Gilliam is what his face looks like during his vinegar strokes.
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9:58PM on 11/28/2011
Way to critize a film that is very easy to criticize. I don't mind if he thinks films lack substance, but don't go out of your way to criticize a film franchise like Transformers whose main goal has nothing to do with substance r character development.

Other than 12 Monkeys and The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassisus, it's not like his movies are that great
Way to critize a film that is very easy to criticize. I don't mind if he thinks films lack substance, but don't go out of your way to criticize a film franchise like Transformers whose main goal has nothing to do with substance r character development.

Other than 12 Monkeys and The Imaginarium of Dr Parnassisus, it's not like his movies are that great
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1:09PM on 11/29/2011
Thank you for feeding the stupidity of the masses. Every movie should have racist robots and nonsensical story lines,that'd be utterly amazing!
Thank you for feeding the stupidity of the masses. Every movie should have racist robots and nonsensical story lines,that'd be utterly amazing!
9:56PM on 11/28/2011
Sorry Terry but there's nothing to be proud of when a guy locks himself in an office for 3 days. That's not "Fantastic!", it's demented and that person was either lying or has some serious personal issues.
Sorry Terry but there's nothing to be proud of when a guy locks himself in an office for 3 days. That's not "Fantastic!", it's demented and that person was either lying or has some serious personal issues.
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2:05AM on 11/29/2011
He is suggesting that his film had such deep meaning that it caused some lawyer to have an existential crisis about what he was doing in life. If you made a film that made someone totally reexamine their philosophy of life wouldn't you find that fantastic?
He is suggesting that his film had such deep meaning that it caused some lawyer to have an existential crisis about what he was doing in life. If you made a film that made someone totally reexamine their philosophy of life wouldn't you find that fantastic?
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9:41PM on 11/28/2011
In related news, the Earth revolves around the sun and Hitler was evil. : P
In related news, the Earth revolves around the sun and Hitler was evil. : P
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9:36PM on 11/28/2011

Huh...

So Brazil wasn't boring? Riiiight...
So Brazil wasn't boring? Riiiight...
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1:06PM on 11/29/2011
Brazil is a beautiful masterpiece.
Brazil is a beautiful masterpiece.
9:35PM on 11/28/2011
Another slow news day?
Another slow news day?
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