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The Unpopular Opinion: The Godfather

08.03.2010

Written by Matt Withers

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

My name is Matt and I do not like THE GODFATHER. There, I said it.

Iíve seen the whole movie, but have never managed to watch it in one sitting because I find the whole thing ponderous, self-indulgent, ugly, washed out and relatively infantile. Some of you are probably already hyperventilating with rage so go ahead and take a minute. It honestly just gets worse from here. Grab a paper bag and come back when youíre ready.

The heart of why I dislike the film is that I do not want to spend three hours with these characters. Iíve always found the American mafia, at least as portrayed in popular media, to be fairly dimwitted bullies who demand respect but donít give it, believe an inability to solve problems without violence to be an attribute, and have an utterly abhorrent view of women whose soul purpose in their world seems to be fucking, breeding, standing quietly and never questioning a manís authority.


Can someone remind me which one I'm supposed to beat and which one I'm supposed to bone?

Make no mistake, despite the movieís fascination with the mafia, and its attempt to humanize, even draw the audienceís sympathy for it, this is no charitably inclined protection organization looking out for the neighborhood and providing victimless diversions. In fact, Don Vito Corleone is little more than a thug with delusions of beneficence. This might be a crazy idea, but Iím of the opinion that if someone has ordered multiple executions, they are not a good role model no matter how good they feel about themselves.

Providing counterpoint to the Don is Michael Corleone and his transformation from a clean cut, conflicted man into a cold blooded head of a mafia clan. Of course, lip service is given by Don Corleone about wanting Michael to remain a ďcivilianĒ, but he does nothing to save his son from the lifestyle. A good father wants whatís best for his son. But the Don knows Michael is the best choice to head the family after he is gone, so he selfishly allows Michael to follow that path even knowing itíd be better for his son to stay out.

And Iím supposed to like this guy? Please. Even his death plays out like some ridiculous YouTube video of a clumsy fat man. I guess it might follow that I should feel more affection for Michael, but honestly heís even worse than his dad or his brothers. Sonny and Fredo are what they are, with little thought given to anything that is not right in front of them. But Michael, shallow and petulant as he is, knows better but goes ahead and chooses a path of rage and violence because he ultimately canít resist the allure of cheap power. Pathetic if you ask me.


Sometimes my deep sense of ennui requires I get all violent and shit.

I especially dislike Mikey because his story forced me to spend waaaay too fucking long in Italy. It served little point toward the story except to make Michael seem extra stupid, immature, and allow him to come back with a deep secret that affected his character arc not at all. His change of heart was solidified with the restaurant murder, not his unmailed mail-order brideís death. And please donít give me the ďsticking to the bookĒ argument, because the book was focused on the Don, not Michael, something the film flips completely.

Another issue I have with the film is the one note characterizations. Sonny is angry, Fredo is weak, Hagen is loyal, Michael is conflicted until heís not and the Don is the Don. None of these characters do anything remotely surprising, which leaves little in the performances to be enjoyed outside of the underused character actors that populate the film.

Now unfortunately we are also stuck with a film that in trying to establish a period feel gives us a colorless palate that I find quite frankly boring to look at. The framing of most scenes lacks cohesion and has a kitchen sink feel. Letís either capture everything and hope something interesting makes it in, or just shoot it with no particular style or substance and hope people love it for being ďuncomplicatedĒ. Uncomplicated is fine if your story and your actors are that compelling, but here they simply do not deliver.


You'd expect something this gay to have more color to it.

The biggest thing I despise about The Godfather though, is the effect it has had on American culture. The concept that respect can be demanded, can be established through fear, and especially that it is something that requires no one ever act against you no matter how out of line you may be has literally infested our consciousness. Everybody wants respect, wants to have the power to demand it, yet so many people fail to see that true respect cannot be forced, and must be given before it can be received.

Iím also sick of the whole idea that organized criminals have some useful purpose. The protection they offer is never without cost, because once you have accepted their help they will always consider you under their thumb if they need you. Thatís not protection, itís slavery. And they certainly are not involved in victimless crimes. The Donís reluctance to get involved in the drug trade is a hollow subterfuge trying to make one crime seem more legitimate than another. Ignoring the human cost of mafia controlled prostitution and gambling just sounds like the senile ramblings of an old man to me.

So with all due respect to Godfather lovers, AFI and the Oscars, I do not like this movie, I hate its message, and I think its infantile view of the criminal underworld mixed with its eager acceptance of the legitimacy of those ideas makes our world a more dangerous place.


I admit this scene was pretty awesome.
Extra Tidbit: Even Family Guy's own Peter Griffin agrees. He did not care for the Godfather.
Source: JoBlo.com

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5:30PM on 12/29/2012
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5:29PM on 12/29/2012

gangster movie's lovers that are not gangster's themselves are pathetique

I'd also add that this movie and the kind of It is very liked by those who crave for power but don't have any/enough of their own ( which is common for ... most of the men).
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particularly liked this insight: "The concept that respect can be demanded, can be established through fear, and especially that it is something that requires no one ever act against you no matter how out of line you may be has literally infested our consciousness."
I'd also add that this movie and the kind of It is very liked by those who crave for power but don't have any/enough of their own ( which is common for ... most of the men).
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particularly liked this insight: "The concept that respect can be demanded, can be established through fear, and especially that it is something that requires no one ever act against you no matter how out of line you may be has literally infested our consciousness."
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9:50PM on 02/23/2011

Low intelligence Badguys don't do it for me

Maybe it's just me, but every Italian American Mafia show/movie always seems to be about low intelligence (that's harsh, maybe just "not that smart") people with very little tangible power or ability. That alone is a turn off. Violence and such in a movie is fine by me and sometimes it's great... but bad guys really either need to be extremely smart or extremely powerful to be cool or interesting bad guys in my book. The mafia thing just never seems to do it. Godfather I,II,III being the
Maybe it's just me, but every Italian American Mafia show/movie always seems to be about low intelligence (that's harsh, maybe just "not that smart") people with very little tangible power or ability. That alone is a turn off. Violence and such in a movie is fine by me and sometimes it's great... but bad guys really either need to be extremely smart or extremely powerful to be cool or interesting bad guys in my book. The mafia thing just never seems to do it. Godfather I,II,III being the ultimate thorn in my side because I have never sat through the movies in one sitting either, yet everybody claims they are the best thing ever. And I like Pacino, De Nero, and most of the cast quite a bit in many of their other movies. But the Godfather movies just bore and annoy me to no end. There are never any real surprises. Nothing really makes me think hard or feel much toward the main characters other than annoyance. I never feel challenged. And the annoying, uneducated thug thing is there in your face nonstop. If all I can feel for the main characters is annoyance, I just can't enjoy the movie.
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3:36PM on 08/06/2010
Yeah, I'm not a huge Godfather fan or anything, but your article was about as infantile as you claimed the movie was.

Instead of offering insightful and well thought out points about the film, all you did was throw a temper tantrum and bitch about life ethics that you believe in and about how you think the movie is a bad influence on children.

Seriously? Grow the fuck up and stop writing articles. Who green lit this shit?
Yeah, I'm not a huge Godfather fan or anything, but your article was about as infantile as you claimed the movie was.

Instead of offering insightful and well thought out points about the film, all you did was throw a temper tantrum and bitch about life ethics that you believe in and about how you think the movie is a bad influence on children.

Seriously? Grow the fuck up and stop writing articles. Who green lit this shit?
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10:01PM on 08/05/2010

hmmmmm

i think your problem lies not with the film but with organized crime
i think your problem lies not with the film but with organized crime
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9:11PM on 08/04/2010

Hmm

I like the godfather for the most part, but there's always been bits of it that have bothered me. Most of which you covered. It's most certainly NOT Coppola's best work. On the other hand, I don't think that it was trying to justify or glorify a mafia lifestyle. The fans did that all on their own. It's an easy film to take the wrong message from and has a similar cultural impact as Scarface. The respect thing you mentioned comes about in that as easy to misunderstand as well and makes for a
I like the godfather for the most part, but there's always been bits of it that have bothered me. Most of which you covered. It's most certainly NOT Coppola's best work. On the other hand, I don't think that it was trying to justify or glorify a mafia lifestyle. The fans did that all on their own. It's an easy film to take the wrong message from and has a similar cultural impact as Scarface. The respect thing you mentioned comes about in that as easy to misunderstand as well and makes for a really annoying fanbase. And I think that's the main problem, is that it's fanbase have made it something it's not and whitewashed the film in arrogance and stupidity. Thus making it less enjoyable.
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5:48PM on 08/04/2010
Ok so you hate the Godfather, congratulations. You proud of yourself for writing this? The movie is 38 fucking years old, little late on this opinion chief Also, the movie has made millions on top of millions, still sells on dvd, STILL gets ratings when it is broadcast on tv, it won 3 oscars including best picture, and had an ensemble cast of some of the greatest actors to ever live. Who the fuck are you to bash one of the most successful films in cinema history? Fucking internet. Everybody
Ok so you hate the Godfather, congratulations. You proud of yourself for writing this? The movie is 38 fucking years old, little late on this opinion chief Also, the movie has made millions on top of millions, still sells on dvd, STILL gets ratings when it is broadcast on tv, it won 3 oscars including best picture, and had an ensemble cast of some of the greatest actors to ever live. Who the fuck are you to bash one of the most successful films in cinema history? Fucking internet. Everybody has an opinion.
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9:30PM on 08/04/2010
the article is basically written by people who are dissenting from the "mainstream" opinion dude.
relax.
"you proud of yourself for writing this?"
seriously? THE POINT OF THIS SECTION IS TO DEBATE MOVIES THAT PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY JUST AGREE ON BECAUSE OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS.
moron.
the article is basically written by people who are dissenting from the "mainstream" opinion dude.
relax.
"you proud of yourself for writing this?"
seriously? THE POINT OF THIS SECTION IS TO DEBATE MOVIES THAT PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY JUST AGREE ON BECAUSE OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS.
moron.
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5:29PM on 08/04/2010
Godfather is not my cup of tea. I watched it a while back but would have to see it again to pass judgement or discern its message. But Xmen Origins........ yeah I saw it once and cant remember much of it but I can tell you it was cheap crap.
Godfather is not my cup of tea. I watched it a while back but would have to see it again to pass judgement or discern its message. But Xmen Origins........ yeah I saw it once and cant remember much of it but I can tell you it was cheap crap.
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3:22PM on 08/04/2010

Now you're finally starting to get somewhere...

The last few picks for this column have been weak. Wishy-washy reviews about middle-of-the-road movies that generate more "Me too" agreements then engaging discussion. Finally, you went for one of the big daddies in film history and railed it. Bravo. This is more what this column should be like.
The last few picks for this column have been weak. Wishy-washy reviews about middle-of-the-road movies that generate more "Me too" agreements then engaging discussion. Finally, you went for one of the big daddies in film history and railed it. Bravo. This is more what this column should be like.
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1:01PM on 08/04/2010

My opinion

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9:55AM on 08/04/2010
First of all, without seeing the movie in one sitting I fail to see how you can render an honest opinion on it. You are seeing it chunks, likely out of order. So regardless of whether your opinion is unpopular or not it is not one achieved through what I feel are valid means.

You talk about America's fascination with mob culture, this is nothing new. Go back to the thirties with movies like Public Enemy, Manhattan Melodrama, Little Caesar. Guys like Cagney and Edward G. Robinson made
First of all, without seeing the movie in one sitting I fail to see how you can render an honest opinion on it. You are seeing it chunks, likely out of order. So regardless of whether your opinion is unpopular or not it is not one achieved through what I feel are valid means.

You talk about America's fascination with mob culture, this is nothing new. Go back to the thirties with movies like Public Enemy, Manhattan Melodrama, Little Caesar. Guys like Cagney and Edward G. Robinson made their careers playing utter bastards and America loved it. Hell, I just finished watching the '64 version of The Killers and it is about two hitmen chasing down a score, and almost everyone in that film deserves a bullet in the head. Americans love crime movies, it is nothing new.

Michael Corleone's falling into the lifestyle is part of the tragedy of the film. He tries to fight it but his father has been nearly murdered, his family is under siege, the police have been bought. Then while he is in exile Sonny is murdered and Fredo is too weak to protect the family. Michael must embrace the life.

Maybe if you had sat down and watched the film from beginning to end some of these nuances would have occurred to you.
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7:02AM on 08/04/2010
While I have to disagree, at the very least, this guy knows how to write. I think this addition to the site is pretty great.
While I have to disagree, at the very least, this guy knows how to write. I think this addition to the site is pretty great.
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12:57AM on 08/04/2010
First you like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and now you "hate" The Godfather?

I won't get into it too much since it's already been stated fairly well earlier on, but from reading your article you've clearly missed the message The Godfather wants to get across.

The movie doesn't glorify organized crime, or the Mafia in anyway. It doesn't want you to find role models or sympathize with it's characters either. It does the complete opposite and shows the violence that organized crime can bring
First you like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and now you "hate" The Godfather?

I won't get into it too much since it's already been stated fairly well earlier on, but from reading your article you've clearly missed the message The Godfather wants to get across.

The movie doesn't glorify organized crime, or the Mafia in anyway. It doesn't want you to find role models or sympathize with it's characters either. It does the complete opposite and shows the violence that organized crime can bring onto a family. Don Vito doesn't want Michael getting involved, but he can't force Michael's hand either. Michael does (at the time) what he thinks is best for his family and loved ones, and throughout the next two movies pays for it dearly. At the end of his life, he dies in the middle of nowhere, withered and alone with nothing.

We are suppose to take in that the Mafia is anything but good, and will eventually destroy everything you love.
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2:25AM on 08/04/2010
This column is written by DIFFERENT PEOPLE. To debate someone because they liked one film and not another, doesn't really make sense, since we all have differing opinions, right? It's best to read the columns as written by a member of our staff and debate HIS/HER POINTS versus your points. That's what constructive debating is all about... (like you did, btw, after your initial remark)
This column is written by DIFFERENT PEOPLE. To debate someone because they liked one film and not another, doesn't really make sense, since we all have differing opinions, right? It's best to read the columns as written by a member of our staff and debate HIS/HER POINTS versus your points. That's what constructive debating is all about... (like you did, btw, after your initial remark)
9:32PM on 08/04/2010
I totally hear ya Joblo. My initial comment wasn't so much along the lines of criticizing Mr. Withers' opinions, just me being more or less surprised then anything. But this column is called "The Unpopular Opinion", so I guess should learn to not be so amazed every week.

I do think this is a solid idea for a weekly column, looking forward to future entries.
I totally hear ya Joblo. My initial comment wasn't so much along the lines of criticizing Mr. Withers' opinions, just me being more or less surprised then anything. But this column is called "The Unpopular Opinion", so I guess should learn to not be so amazed every week.

I do think this is a solid idea for a weekly column, looking forward to future entries.
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12:13AM on 08/04/2010
I dug The Godfather... but what I'm really waiting for is the unpopular opinion of Pulp Fiction. Man that was overrated. Not bad, just overrated.
I dug The Godfather... but what I'm really waiting for is the unpopular opinion of Pulp Fiction. Man that was overrated. Not bad, just overrated.
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12:10AM on 08/04/2010
THANK YOU!

God, people get onto me, but I cannot like this movie. Never sat through the whole thing. Seen the whole thing, never in one sitting. Took me years to see the every part
THANK YOU!

God, people get onto me, but I cannot like this movie. Never sat through the whole thing. Seen the whole thing, never in one sitting. Took me years to see the every part
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11:54PM on 08/03/2010
Dude,you are getting mad respect for this unpopular opinion, kudos!
Dude,you are getting mad respect for this unpopular opinion, kudos!
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9:45PM on 08/03/2010
This is a well written article, but I think you are more distressed by the principles, (or lack thereof)and behavior of the actual mafia than by the movie itself. Coppola simply made a film that depicted behavior in the mafia, I don't think he or anyone else who was a part of the film was trying to spread the message that such behavior is acceptable in society. Those who believe that the film's intent was to justify bullying and violence to earn respect have missed the point of the film. You
This is a well written article, but I think you are more distressed by the principles, (or lack thereof)and behavior of the actual mafia than by the movie itself. Coppola simply made a film that depicted behavior in the mafia, I don't think he or anyone else who was a part of the film was trying to spread the message that such behavior is acceptable in society. Those who believe that the film's intent was to justify bullying and violence to earn respect have missed the point of the film. You don't think Scorsese condones the behavior of the characters in his films, do you?
Also, I believe the Don's death was portrayed in a realistic manner because those who partake in the mafia seldom ever meet a graceful end.
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8:38PM on 08/03/2010

meh

*double post sorry*
*double post sorry*
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7:33PM on 08/03/2010

Thank You

I have nothing to say besides Thank You.
I have nothing to say besides Thank You.
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7:27PM on 08/03/2010

meh

I definitely don't "like" the godfather, but I definitely don't "dislike" it either, I'm sort of neutral on it. I think it's an extremly well made movie, gritty and powerful, but I'm also torn on it.
I feel it is difficult to say I "like" it.
It reminds me of the same feeling I get with Philadelphia, or even the first Rocky movie... powerful, excellent, well written, well made, but not very "re-watchable"
I'll compare it to Rocky IV, which I can pick up at any point, and watch, any time of
I definitely don't "like" the godfather, but I definitely don't "dislike" it either, I'm sort of neutral on it. I think it's an extremly well made movie, gritty and powerful, but I'm also torn on it.
I feel it is difficult to say I "like" it.
It reminds me of the same feeling I get with Philadelphia, or even the first Rocky movie... powerful, excellent, well written, well made, but not very "re-watchable"
I'll compare it to Rocky IV, which I can pick up at any point, and watch, any time of the day, any day of the year.
So I guess while i DISAGREE with his hatred for this movie, and DISAGREE on most of his points (though some are valid, such as the romanticizing of crime) I must say that I do find the movie a difficult re-watch, though I do feel it is a movie everybody should sit through, start to finish, at least once, to appreciate the power and scope of it.
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7:08PM on 08/03/2010
Valid points I guess, but the film is still a very well done gangster film. I mean, if you didn't like The Godfather, then you just don't like the genre. What I find so great about it is Sonny's story. Sure, all these characters are ugly, but they are scary precisely because of how they're portrayed. There is also the fantasy that gangsters can get whatever they want without giving much. Following Sonny, a war hero as he goes down this dark hole of his family is an interesting journey. Again,
Valid points I guess, but the film is still a very well done gangster film. I mean, if you didn't like The Godfather, then you just don't like the genre. What I find so great about it is Sonny's story. Sure, all these characters are ugly, but they are scary precisely because of how they're portrayed. There is also the fantasy that gangsters can get whatever they want without giving much. Following Sonny, a war hero as he goes down this dark hole of his family is an interesting journey. Again, this is a genre you either like or don't.
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7:26PM on 08/03/2010
I think you meant Michael...
I think you meant Michael...
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7:01PM on 08/03/2010

love this column

I think this is a great column to have on joblo, cause it is titled the unpopular opinion and from each I have read he is not just dismissing any of these films. to just say that he cant appreciate it or is brain washed by michael bay is just a cop out. i mean obviously if an article is called the fuckin UNPOPULAR OPINION he is not just going to heap praise on a movie everyone likes. that would just be self congratulatory masturbation...it would be like writing an article talking about how
I think this is a great column to have on joblo, cause it is titled the unpopular opinion and from each I have read he is not just dismissing any of these films. to just say that he cant appreciate it or is brain washed by michael bay is just a cop out. i mean obviously if an article is called the fuckin UNPOPULAR OPINION he is not just going to heap praise on a movie everyone likes. that would just be self congratulatory masturbation...it would be like writing an article talking about how great dark knight is, or toy story...we all know this already so who cares about that article. I may not necessarily agree with him, but i enjoy seeing things from other perspectives. it could be because i am ok with having my own opinions challenged and forced to look at things differently. you could do that. or just fall into the patterns of playing internet troll and just throwing out the easiest insult that requires no brain process whenever someone disagrees with you. at this point its white noise.
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6:59PM on 08/03/2010

love this column

I think this is a great column to have on joblo, cause it is titled the unpopular opinion and from each I have read he is not just dismissing any of these films. to just say that he cant appreciate it or is brain washed by michael bay is just a cop out. i mean obviously if an article is called the fuckin UNPOPULAR OPINION he is not just going to heap praise on a movie everyone likes. that would just be self congratulatory masturbation...it would be like writing an article talking about how
I think this is a great column to have on joblo, cause it is titled the unpopular opinion and from each I have read he is not just dismissing any of these films. to just say that he cant appreciate it or is brain washed by michael bay is just a cop out. i mean obviously if an article is called the fuckin UNPOPULAR OPINION he is not just going to heap praise on a movie everyone likes. that would just be self congratulatory masturbation...it would be like writing an article talking about how great dark knight is, or toy story...we all know this already so who cares about that article. I may not necessarily agree with him, but i enjoy seeing things from other perspectives. it could be because i am ok with having my own opinions challenged and forced to look at things differently. you could do that. or just fall into the patterns of playing internet troll and just throwing out the easiest insult that requires no brain process whenever someone disagrees with you. at this point its white noise.
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6:58PM on 08/03/2010

You've gotta earn respect

I have no problem with someone not liking The Godfather, but writing a column about it, after admitting they have never sat through the whole thing, is just dumb. I understand you want to stir things around and initiate debates, but this column shows a total lck of seriousness from your part. I personally wouldn't read you again, it feels like a waste of time, and I'm not surprised others feel the same way.
I have no problem with someone not liking The Godfather, but writing a column about it, after admitting they have never sat through the whole thing, is just dumb. I understand you want to stir things around and initiate debates, but this column shows a total lck of seriousness from your part. I personally wouldn't read you again, it feels like a waste of time, and I'm not surprised others feel the same way.
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8:36PM on 08/03/2010
Why does it matter if I've watched the film over a day or two? Does a 4 or 5 hour miniseries (which are not much longer than this), lose something by not watching it all at once? Is episodic TV fundamentally flawed because it is too long to watch in one sitting?

You can disagree with how I feel about the film, but given that I really don't like it, I'd say that my insistence on sitting through something that I don't enjoy on multiple occasions because it is so highly regarded in film history
Why does it matter if I've watched the film over a day or two? Does a 4 or 5 hour miniseries (which are not much longer than this), lose something by not watching it all at once? Is episodic TV fundamentally flawed because it is too long to watch in one sitting?

You can disagree with how I feel about the film, but given that I really don't like it, I'd say that my insistence on sitting through something that I don't enjoy on multiple occasions because it is so highly regarded in film history shows just how seriously I take my film criticism.
12:25AM on 08/04/2010
Matt, I feel the difference is that movies are designed to pull you in and get you watching until the very. TV shows or miniseries isn't. By their very nature, they are designed to be episodic, so by breaking a movie into bits and pieces, it can't properly pull you in, by design.

I could be wrong here, but I do not think the writer of this post was trying to infer that made for tv movies or miniseries were inferior, just that by design, the movie couldn't work properly.
Matt, I feel the difference is that movies are designed to pull you in and get you watching until the very. TV shows or miniseries isn't. By their very nature, they are designed to be episodic, so by breaking a movie into bits and pieces, it can't properly pull you in, by design.

I could be wrong here, but I do not think the writer of this post was trying to infer that made for tv movies or miniseries were inferior, just that by design, the movie couldn't work properly.
8:18PM on 08/05/2010
filmguy450, the movie didn't work properly, because it failed to pull me in enough to watch it in one sitting, despite my attempting to do so on at least three separate occassions.
filmguy450, the movie didn't work properly, because it failed to pull me in enough to watch it in one sitting, despite my attempting to do so on at least three separate occassions.
5:36PM on 08/03/2010

Definitely agree.

I also have never enjoyed THE GODFATHER. I've always found it to be dated by today's standards. A lot of people I know don't care for it as well. Although everyone says that if you didn't like the first GODFATHER it is pretty blasphemous, you can still enjoy the second part. I have never seen the second part because the first part sullied the series for me.

Is it a bad film? No.

Is it as great as everybody makes it out to be? No.
I also have never enjoyed THE GODFATHER. I've always found it to be dated by today's standards. A lot of people I know don't care for it as well. Although everyone says that if you didn't like the first GODFATHER it is pretty blasphemous, you can still enjoy the second part. I have never seen the second part because the first part sullied the series for me.

Is it a bad film? No.

Is it as great as everybody makes it out to be? No.
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5:19PM on 08/03/2010
My name is Matt, and you are fucking dickhead. Change your name.
My name is Matt, and you are fucking dickhead. Change your name.
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5:18PM on 08/03/2010

I get it.

You think it is boring. Slow-paced? Yes. Boring? No. Here is an example of another American brain-washed by Michael Bay films, and who only will enjoy a film if it is happy and fun, or has massive explosions and eye-candy the whole way through with three lines of dialogue per scene. Maybe you love Transformers 2? Maybe 2012? How about Jonah Hex? That peak your interest? Well, then from your point of view: yes, the Godfather blows big vein-y cock.
You think it is boring. Slow-paced? Yes. Boring? No. Here is an example of another American brain-washed by Michael Bay films, and who only will enjoy a film if it is happy and fun, or has massive explosions and eye-candy the whole way through with three lines of dialogue per scene. Maybe you love Transformers 2? Maybe 2012? How about Jonah Hex? That peak your interest? Well, then from your point of view: yes, the Godfather blows big vein-y cock.
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5:00PM on 08/03/2010
If The Godfather is gay, I'm Liza fucking Minnelli.
If The Godfather is gay, I'm Liza fucking Minnelli.
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5:00PM on 08/03/2010

Okay, it's official...

....this article section of Joblo/MovieFanCentral is thew worst part of this site.
....this article section of Joblo/MovieFanCentral is thew worst part of this site.
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4:55PM on 08/03/2010

Again, I give you the slow clap

I've made my way through this movie as well. Not in one sitting. I don't get it. The characters don't keep me entertained or intrigued enough to have me sit there for 3 hours and hang on their actions. It's a good movie and I respect it, but I don't get the hype for it, I don't get the massive respect it gets and I don't get why we HAVE to like it....Good not great movie. Excellent article.
I've made my way through this movie as well. Not in one sitting. I don't get it. The characters don't keep me entertained or intrigued enough to have me sit there for 3 hours and hang on their actions. It's a good movie and I respect it, but I don't get the hype for it, I don't get the massive respect it gets and I don't get why we HAVE to like it....Good not great movie. Excellent article.
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6:01PM on 08/05/2010
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3:50PM on 08/03/2010

"Someone, please notice me!"

As the title alludes, I think this article is crap...and that's nice.

You're probably one of those guys whose completely in love with his own opinion.
Normally, it's pretty easy to tell because you can spot them from a mile away, making outrageous claims (ie. "I don't like the Godfather. There, I said it.") trying to get anyone in the world to respect their opinion as well as acknowledge their existence.

Needles to say. You're wrong.
Dude, you're so off.
Unbelievably.

You make
As the title alludes, I think this article is crap...and that's nice.

You're probably one of those guys whose completely in love with his own opinion.
Normally, it's pretty easy to tell because you can spot them from a mile away, making outrageous claims (ie. "I don't like the Godfather. There, I said it.") trying to get anyone in the world to respect their opinion as well as acknowledge their existence.

Needles to say. You're wrong.
Dude, you're so off.
Unbelievably.

You make a very poor argument, and spend the first 6 paragraphs redundantly re-stating how much you loathe the movie Genre, and then, as the newly crowned King of Redundancy, conclude the article with how much you hate the genre, and how it's gay (I mean really, man? The Godfather, gay? Are we 10?) and then back to your loathing of the glorification that Mafia movies receive in America.

Look, this is one of the greatest acted, filmed, directed, written, produced films of all time, there is no disputing that as you so graciously proved. Also, read down, friend. The people who support this article are all the Tracy Morgan/(insert aging action hero here) attention span-less idiots who thought Transformers 2 was a good movie.

Here's a thought, if you go to see an amazing movie and leave hating it because it was too long, go home and watch "Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?" and put your brain to something it might be able to comprehend.
I mean you and these kind of people's influence on the movie industry is what's killing film in America. I just hope that I've influenced you in some way to stop writing biased, completely subjective horse shit articles about your opinion of a sub-genre, and actually review a movie.

Good day.

ps. @ArtFactoryRadio, I'm right behind you.
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4:13PM on 08/03/2010
"You're probably one of those guys whose(sp) completely in love with his own opinion." - note to Alannis Morrisette, THIS is ironic.

And by the by old chap, opinion pieces are by their nature are both "biased" and "subjective".

That said, I'm a huge fan of your blanket dismissal of me AND every other person who agrees with me. That's the type of mature, reasoned response that really makes me listen closely ... oh, wait ;-)
"You're probably one of those guys whose(sp) completely in love with his own opinion." - note to Alannis Morrisette, THIS is ironic.

And by the by old chap, opinion pieces are by their nature are both "biased" and "subjective".

That said, I'm a huge fan of your blanket dismissal of me AND every other person who agrees with me. That's the type of mature, reasoned response that really makes me listen closely ... oh, wait ;-)
11:08PM on 08/03/2010
"I'm a huge fan of your blanket dismissal of me AND every other person who agrees with me." What a coincidence. So am I.

Sometimes, the best response is no response.
"I'm a huge fan of your blanket dismissal of me AND every other person who agrees with me." What a coincidence. So am I.

Sometimes, the best response is no response.
11:11PM on 08/03/2010
Matt, if you don't like the genre, why did you watch it?
Matt, if you don't like the genre, why did you watch it?
8:20PM on 08/05/2010
Because it's considered a classic and any serious film fan has to watch it, even if they discover they don't like it. And not being a fan of the genre doesn't mean it shouldn't work if it's truly great. For instance, I am not a fan of holocaust dramas, but found Schindler's List to be an amazing film.
Because it's considered a classic and any serious film fan has to watch it, even if they discover they don't like it. And not being a fan of the genre doesn't mean it shouldn't work if it's truly great. For instance, I am not a fan of holocaust dramas, but found Schindler's List to be an amazing film.
2:39PM on 08/18/2010
Well put, Matt. Thanks.
Well put, Matt. Thanks.
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3:45PM on 08/03/2010

Great Article

I've never understood the fascination with mafia 'entertainment' like The Godfather, Goodfellas, and The Sopranos.

So, when are we gonna see the unpopular opinion that Inception and The Dark Knight are vastly overrated?
I've never understood the fascination with mafia 'entertainment' like The Godfather, Goodfellas, and The Sopranos.

So, when are we gonna see the unpopular opinion that Inception and The Dark Knight are vastly overrated?
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3:38PM on 08/03/2010

I disagree, but you expected that.

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the film, that's unfortunate. First off, I don't think you're suppose to really like any of the characters, although I did. If you think the movie is boring, then you're obviously not interested in a mafia movie in the first place, so you shouldn't be watching it. I recommend "XXX", that might be more your taste/speed. And as for "one-note" characters, that probably goes for 80% of movies, sir. Most movies have their characters follow a certain path or
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the film, that's unfortunate. First off, I don't think you're suppose to really like any of the characters, although I did. If you think the movie is boring, then you're obviously not interested in a mafia movie in the first place, so you shouldn't be watching it. I recommend "XXX", that might be more your taste/speed. And as for "one-note" characters, that probably goes for 80% of movies, sir. Most movies have their characters follow a certain path or personality. Plus, all the names you mentioned are supporting characters(even the Don, unfortunately). The movie is ultimately about Michael, and if you think he's "one-note" then you're blind and/or a moron.
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3:37PM on 08/03/2010
Well said all around. The Godfather is a well made film but not deserving of all the ring kissing and ass kissing it gets.
Well said all around. The Godfather is a well made film but not deserving of all the ring kissing and ass kissing it gets.
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3:18PM on 08/03/2010
I love the godfather, but this is a well-written and interesting article.
I love the godfather, but this is a well-written and interesting article.
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10:37PM on 08/03/2010
It is nice to see someone that is not bitter.
It is nice to see someone that is not bitter.
3:14PM on 08/03/2010

The Godfather is super boring

I agree, The Godfather is boring, I don't think I've ever sat through the entire thing.
I agree, The Godfather is boring, I don't think I've ever sat through the entire thing.
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3:04PM on 08/03/2010
(Lighting a torch)

Get him!
(Lighting a torch)

Get him!
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2:49PM on 08/03/2010

WHAT???

How could you NOT like a movie with lots of violence and a mob family that was the source for countless well made mob movies. To appreciate movies like "Goodfellas", "The Departed", and "The Sopranos" TV show, you have to recognize the importance that was this movie. "Analyze This" did a great job spoofing this genre, but this is like rippin' on a friggin' classic. The acting, the beautiful directio by Coppola, the score, the set decoration, everything about it shows it's almost a flawless
How could you NOT like a movie with lots of violence and a mob family that was the source for countless well made mob movies. To appreciate movies like "Goodfellas", "The Departed", and "The Sopranos" TV show, you have to recognize the importance that was this movie. "Analyze This" did a great job spoofing this genre, but this is like rippin' on a friggin' classic. The acting, the beautiful directio by Coppola, the score, the set decoration, everything about it shows it's almost a flawless classic. And you know what, IT SHOWS!!!

If your idea of a classic movie is "Snakes on a Plane" or "Battlefield Earth", I don't even wanna know where your head is, man.
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2:44PM on 08/03/2010

Interesting article...

No, I don't think you're supposed to really like any of the Corleone family.

Although, yes, there is the aspect of family that some of the other posters are bringing out.

Take 'The Sopranos' as an example. Everyone on that show was messed up; I didn't care for them, but I was interested in what they were going to get into next.

(Aside from that, I think 'The Godfather' is Coppola's best film; many of his other films have pacing or script issues).


No, I don't think you're supposed to really like any of the Corleone family.

Although, yes, there is the aspect of family that some of the other posters are bringing out.

Take 'The Sopranos' as an example. Everyone on that show was messed up; I didn't care for them, but I was interested in what they were going to get into next.

(Aside from that, I think 'The Godfather' is Coppola's best film; many of his other films have pacing or script issues).


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2:41PM on 08/03/2010
Good Good I like this atticle
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2:39PM on 08/03/2010
wow. if youre going to write a piece like this maybe you should watch the entire movie first. you obviously missed the whole point of the movie, whether you enjoyed it or not.
wow. if youre going to write a piece like this maybe you should watch the entire movie first. you obviously missed the whole point of the movie, whether you enjoyed it or not.
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2:36PM on 08/03/2010

"And Iím supposed to like this guy?"

Sorry, but I don't think you're supposed to. I know that many people have a tendency to glorify the mafia, and that many of those people uses that film as an example, but I always saw the Godfather movies as the story of a decent man who betrays his principles one by one and becomes evil in the process.

The story of the third film is Michael Corleone trying to get out of the mafia, failing to do so and losing his daughter in the process. It's not what I call a positive portrayal of the
Sorry, but I don't think you're supposed to. I know that many people have a tendency to glorify the mafia, and that many of those people uses that film as an example, but I always saw the Godfather movies as the story of a decent man who betrays his principles one by one and becomes evil in the process.

The story of the third film is Michael Corleone trying to get out of the mafia, failing to do so and losing his daughter in the process. It's not what I call a positive portrayal of the criminal life.
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2:21PM on 08/03/2010

Another great review from Armond White

I feel like your argument was well thought of even if it was a little over-analyzed. My main complaint is that you see Micheal as a sellfish. That may be true in Part 2, but you are certainly wrong here. Micheal join the mafia because his family was in trouble. People were out to KILL THEM. His Family was in trouble so the only thing they could think of stopping that is to kill them back. You have to realize something.

It's called Ethnocentrism, The belief that one's culture is the normal
I feel like your argument was well thought of even if it was a little over-analyzed. My main complaint is that you see Micheal as a sellfish. That may be true in Part 2, but you are certainly wrong here. Micheal join the mafia because his family was in trouble. People were out to KILL THEM. His Family was in trouble so the only thing they could think of stopping that is to kill them back. You have to realize something.

It's called Ethnocentrism, The belief that one's culture is the normal and best culture. Every male character in this film was born into the mob culture. All the violence and the racketeering was normal to them because they grew up on it. So don't bloat about how it "sends a bad message" and realize that The Godfather is a portrait of American Life. And we are only here to spectate.
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12:21AM on 08/04/2010
Thank you!! That's exactly right!
Thank you!! That's exactly right!
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2:17PM on 08/03/2010
I agree with a few other posters here that you didn't understand the movie you were watching. It's not about the Mafia or glorifying the Mafia, but about family ties and even familial obligations. You have the Don who realizes that he did a lot violent things to provide for his family early in life, and now regrets that life because he sees that he has dragged his children into that violence. He tries shielding Micheal from it, because Mike is the only one with enough brains and potential to go
I agree with a few other posters here that you didn't understand the movie you were watching. It's not about the Mafia or glorifying the Mafia, but about family ties and even familial obligations. You have the Don who realizes that he did a lot violent things to provide for his family early in life, and now regrets that life because he sees that he has dragged his children into that violence. He tries shielding Micheal from it, because Mike is the only one with enough brains and potential to go to school and make something of himself that isn't based on crime.

Micheal, on the other hand, thinks his father doesn't love him as much as Sonny or Fredo since he keeps getting pushed away from the family business. And he really doesn't even understand the nature of that business until he exiles himself to Italy and sees the extent of his father's influence based not on fear, but respect for the help he has given (even if that help is questionable).

Sonny is the over-privileged son who leaps before he thinks, and knows that he will take over the family business after the Don is gone. He's not dumb, but he's not smart either, and this makes him predictable.

Fredo is the kiss-ass son. He knows he has it good, and doesn't aspire or want control of the family business. If he can do as little work for the greatest reward, that's when he's happiest.

You also have to put this film in historical perspective. Up until this came out in 1972 there was nothing like this seen on the screen. So someone born in the late 1980's or the early 1990s wouldn't even be able to fathom how groundbreaking a movie this was for its time. Especially given all the mafia movies that have come out since then. It's the same for people who poo-poo Citizen Kane as boring and pedantic while not realizing that before Citizen Kane all cameras were locked down in one position (no dolly shots), and fade-in/outs between scenes just weren't done before Kane was made, and that modern filmmakers wouldn't have those techniques if it wasn't for Orson Welles.
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2:11PM on 08/03/2010
Goodfellas and the Departed are far superior mafia films than the Godfather in my book. I can understand the work put into a film and appreciate the uniqueness given to it while also not enjoying the film. Citizen Kane is a prime example of that for me. I didn't like the movie but I appreciated the efforts behind it and what it did for cinema as far as cinematography goes. Now I didn't enjoy the Godfather, I also don't see the uniqueness behind it and how it changed cinema the way Citizen Kane
Goodfellas and the Departed are far superior mafia films than the Godfather in my book. I can understand the work put into a film and appreciate the uniqueness given to it while also not enjoying the film. Citizen Kane is a prime example of that for me. I didn't like the movie but I appreciated the efforts behind it and what it did for cinema as far as cinematography goes. Now I didn't enjoy the Godfather, I also don't see the uniqueness behind it and how it changed cinema the way Citizen Kane did. Maybe I am just ignorant and didn't see why, and I would welcome anyone that disagrees to inform me why it is unique and how it changed the way movies were made. Save the insults and immature responses.
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2:17PM on 08/03/2010
The Departed is a watered down remake of a far superior Hong Kong-made movie. And Goodfellas would never have come into being without the Godfather.
The Departed is a watered down remake of a far superior Hong Kong-made movie. And Goodfellas would never have come into being without the Godfather.
2:34PM on 08/03/2010
I haven't seen the Hong Kong version. Must be amazing since the Scorsese version was awesome. I highly doubt that without The Godfather, Goodfellas would have never been made. The Gangster genre of films was well established before The Godfather came about.
I haven't seen the Hong Kong version. Must be amazing since the Scorsese version was awesome. I highly doubt that without The Godfather, Goodfellas would have never been made. The Gangster genre of films was well established before The Godfather came about.
12:19AM on 08/04/2010
"The Departed" was based upon "Infernal Affairs"- since DaForce didn't tell you.

I have to disagree with him in one thing though- "The Departed" is in no way a 'watered down' version of that film. It has less action, and less style, but has great characterizations and tension. Both are great for what they are.
"The Departed" was based upon "Infernal Affairs"- since DaForce didn't tell you.

I have to disagree with him in one thing though- "The Departed" is in no way a 'watered down' version of that film. It has less action, and less style, but has great characterizations and tension. Both are great for what they are.
1:53PM on 08/03/2010
The Godfather 1 & 2 are OK. Th Godfather 3 meh!
The Godfather 1 & 2 are OK. Th Godfather 3 meh!
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1:48PM on 08/03/2010

It rings true

I love the venom being spit in these responses. Very controversial. I see the quality of the Godfather however the movie bores me to tears. One viewing was plenty.
I love the venom being spit in these responses. Very controversial. I see the quality of the Godfather however the movie bores me to tears. One viewing was plenty.
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1:42PM on 08/03/2010

DAMN YOU JERSEY SHORE!

We all know the greatness of this film would not have been in question were it not for the god awful Jersey Shore. DAMN YOU SNOOKIE! The Godfather Rocks!
We all know the greatness of this film would not have been in question were it not for the god awful Jersey Shore. DAMN YOU SNOOKIE! The Godfather Rocks!
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1:46PM on 08/03/2010
HAHA. Very true.
HAHA. Very true.
1:52PM on 08/03/2010
love it!!!
love it!!!
1:37PM on 08/03/2010
You brought up some good points early on, but ignoring the familial aspects of the film, the biggest theme of the movie if you ask me, does make you lose a bit of cred, as does the "Family Guy" thing- Peter is meant to be a stupid character that is often wrong- an image I'm sure you're not aiming for.

With all that, I was wondering if you like "The Sopranos" or "Breaking Bad" or any other mobster/ mafia type movie (a la "Donnie Brasco", especially this one), because if you like any of them,
You brought up some good points early on, but ignoring the familial aspects of the film, the biggest theme of the movie if you ask me, does make you lose a bit of cred, as does the "Family Guy" thing- Peter is meant to be a stupid character that is often wrong- an image I'm sure you're not aiming for.

With all that, I was wondering if you like "The Sopranos" or "Breaking Bad" or any other mobster/ mafia type movie (a la "Donnie Brasco", especially this one), because if you like any of them, then about 2/3 of your argument goes down the tube.
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1:35PM on 08/03/2010

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3:05PM on 08/03/2010
I think that's the more interesting aspect of the column. That it goes against popular opinion and tries to explain their side fairly and intelligently.
I think that's the more interesting aspect of the column. That it goes against popular opinion and tries to explain their side fairly and intelligently.
1:32PM on 08/03/2010
Though I do like the Godfather. I cannot say you didn't bring up interesting points. Good article, keep them coming.
Though I do like the Godfather. I cannot say you didn't bring up interesting points. Good article, keep them coming.
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1:30PM on 08/03/2010

F**k Off

Lmao, now this whole article is gimmicky, where's the guy who wrote about unbreakable and all the original unpopular articles, this guy now is just blabbing for attention, and if he really cant see how amazing the godfather is, he shouldn't even review or be associated with movies, musta had family connections...
Lmao, now this whole article is gimmicky, where's the guy who wrote about unbreakable and all the original unpopular articles, this guy now is just blabbing for attention, and if he really cant see how amazing the godfather is, he shouldn't even review or be associated with movies, musta had family connections...
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1:30PM on 08/03/2010

Short Rebuttle

Saying that you dislike The Godfather because it glamorizes the mafia lifestyle is equivocal to saying that you don't like Breaking Bad because it glamorizes drug abuse. But if your biggest gripe is that people idolize characters who do bad things, that's a completely separate argument altogether and has nothing to do with The Godfather as a film.
Saying that you dislike The Godfather because it glamorizes the mafia lifestyle is equivocal to saying that you don't like Breaking Bad because it glamorizes drug abuse. But if your biggest gripe is that people idolize characters who do bad things, that's a completely separate argument altogether and has nothing to do with The Godfather as a film.
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2:03PM on 08/03/2010
You are 100% percent right on this. I love Scarface but I don't go around worshiping and imitating Tony Montana like alot of people I know. Tony Montana was never meant to be a role model much like the characters in Godfather were never meant to be a role model. If you look up to these characters than you really have a twisted perspective on the world. For me you can still enjoy a movie even if it is filled with unmoral people who shouldn't be idolized.
You are 100% percent right on this. I love Scarface but I don't go around worshiping and imitating Tony Montana like alot of people I know. Tony Montana was never meant to be a role model much like the characters in Godfather were never meant to be a role model. If you look up to these characters than you really have a twisted perspective on the world. For me you can still enjoy a movie even if it is filled with unmoral people who shouldn't be idolized.
1:25PM on 08/03/2010
Though I do like the Godfather. I cannot say you didn't bring up interesting points. Good article, keep them coming.
Though I do like the Godfather. I cannot say you didn't bring up interesting points. Good article, keep them coming.
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1:20PM on 08/03/2010

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Interesting article. I see other posters comment on how this film didn't affect society as much as Scarface, The Sopranos, etc., but you forget that it was twice as popular before it and it's considered the godfather of mafia films. I agree, this article touches on why I hate "Scarface" for much of the same reasons. I might have to disagree with the washed-out colors. While I think that's easy to try and go for period films, the darkness and lack of color I thought worked for the film. And the
Interesting article. I see other posters comment on how this film didn't affect society as much as Scarface, The Sopranos, etc., but you forget that it was twice as popular before it and it's considered the godfather of mafia films. I agree, this article touches on why I hate "Scarface" for much of the same reasons. I might have to disagree with the washed-out colors. While I think that's easy to try and go for period films, the darkness and lack of color I thought worked for the film. And the scenes of Italy (in Part 2) were beautiful, though lacked the vivid colors that others would attempt with the material. I never liked Michael's character after the first film and couldn't understand why they would they would continue to hammer the same point over the next 2 films. I did love some of the cross-cutting scenes that appear in the first film, truly showing the sacrifices that the family had to make in order to keep their family powerful. I would also have to disagree with Brando's performance. I don't think it's his best - his work in "A Streetcar Named Desire" and "On the Waterfront" are next to none - but his performance in this is legendary. There's a reason that character is so iconic, much like Ledger's performance of The Joker. Many of the other performances don't hold a candle to Brando, but few did. Thanks for coming out and saying this and maybe more thug wannabes will take down their Scarface and Godfather posters in their dorm rooms, but probably not.
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1:30PM on 08/03/2010
Comparing this and "Scarface" is like comparing apples to brownies. The two movies themes and styles couldn't be any further removed from each other.
Comparing this and "Scarface" is like comparing apples to brownies. The two movies themes and styles couldn't be any further removed from each other.
3:10PM on 08/03/2010
I'm not comparing Scarface to Godfather! I'm commenting on the writer's impression that Godfather influences people. My statement is that Tony Montana influences more people in society because Tony is selfish and ballsy and takes what he wants. And because I notice of lot of people nowadays being rude, indulgent and disrespectful of others around them I can see where Scarface is a mantra for them. Various rappers in the music industry come to mind.
I'm not comparing Scarface to Godfather! I'm commenting on the writer's impression that Godfather influences people. My statement is that Tony Montana influences more people in society because Tony is selfish and ballsy and takes what he wants. And because I notice of lot of people nowadays being rude, indulgent and disrespectful of others around them I can see where Scarface is a mantra for them. Various rappers in the music industry come to mind.
1:03PM on 08/03/2010
As much as I disagree I really tried to give you a chance to make your case, after all thats what this column is about. Then I read you're arguments. I don't think i've ever seen someone so completely miss the point of a movie before.
As much as I disagree I really tried to give you a chance to make your case, after all thats what this column is about. Then I read you're arguments. I don't think i've ever seen someone so completely miss the point of a movie before.
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1:38PM on 08/03/2010
Agree completely, also considering how much of it is from ACTUAL mafia events and people going on since the turn on the century. Ever watch the History Channel or ID Discovery?? There are quite a few "Dons" that wouldn't touch the drug trade as they thought it was beneath them, that's not just a story Puzo made up. Frank Costello and Paul Costellano are good examples of that.

Agree completely, also considering how much of it is from ACTUAL mafia events and people going on since the turn on the century. Ever watch the History Channel or ID Discovery?? There are quite a few "Dons" that wouldn't touch the drug trade as they thought it was beneath them, that's not just a story Puzo made up. Frank Costello and Paul Costellano are good examples of that.

1:03PM on 08/03/2010

THANK YOU!!!

This article succinctly puts everything I've felt about this "classic" into very plain English. I cannot stand this movie. For all the above reasons. May as well add gasoline to the fire, because I absolutely HATE Scarface, too.
Why do we idolize people in movies that most of us would be scared to death to run across in real life!?

Oh, and fellow JoBloers: You are of course all free to your own opinions, just as I am. I won't resort to petty name-calling because most of you don't happen
This article succinctly puts everything I've felt about this "classic" into very plain English. I cannot stand this movie. For all the above reasons. May as well add gasoline to the fire, because I absolutely HATE Scarface, too.
Why do we idolize people in movies that most of us would be scared to death to run across in real life!?

Oh, and fellow JoBloers: You are of course all free to your own opinions, just as I am. I won't resort to petty name-calling because most of you don't happen to agree with me. I "demand" you respect my freedom to hate...lol.
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1:02PM on 08/03/2010
This is what annoys me. These columns should be creating argument but instead the people that disagree with these opinions act like complete morons. Come up with an argument that doesn't start with "You just didn't understand the point of it." Then they just insult the writer. Seriously get over yourselves guys. At least the writer is giving reasons and arguments.
By the way I agree that the Godfather is completely overrated and I agree with the points Matt makes.
This is what annoys me. These columns should be creating argument but instead the people that disagree with these opinions act like complete morons. Come up with an argument that doesn't start with "You just didn't understand the point of it." Then they just insult the writer. Seriously get over yourselves guys. At least the writer is giving reasons and arguments.
By the way I agree that the Godfather is completely overrated and I agree with the points Matt makes.
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1:28PM on 08/03/2010
the reason people are "acting like morons" is because it's the GODFATHER.

this is a film site. Insulting what is widely considered one of the finest films ever made is like going to comicon and yelling "Star Wars sucks". it's obviously done to incite and doesn't deserve a rebuttal. in fact, there are countless film books that make the argument for us.
the reason people are "acting like morons" is because it's the GODFATHER.

this is a film site. Insulting what is widely considered one of the finest films ever made is like going to comicon and yelling "Star Wars sucks". it's obviously done to incite and doesn't deserve a rebuttal. in fact, there are countless film books that make the argument for us.
1:43PM on 08/03/2010
He is not just simply saying Godfather sucks though. He gives reasoning to his opinion. I don't get what you mean when you say the reason people are acting this way is because it's the Godfather. And...
Just by saying that it makes it seem like just because it is highly appreciated means there should be no criticism of it. Where is the open mindedness? I don't think the writer cares about the arguments the books provide. Where are the schmoes arguments?
He is not just simply saying Godfather sucks though. He gives reasoning to his opinion. I don't get what you mean when you say the reason people are acting this way is because it's the Godfather. And...
Just by saying that it makes it seem like just because it is highly appreciated means there should be no criticism of it. Where is the open mindedness? I don't think the writer cares about the arguments the books provide. Where are the schmoes arguments?
3:00PM on 08/03/2010
Really? He starts the article out by saying he never seen the movie all the way through only sat through segments... The credit of the writer is automaticlly shot. I mean how do you critizie a movie you have never even watched.
Really? He starts the article out by saying he never seen the movie all the way through only sat through segments... The credit of the writer is automaticlly shot. I mean how do you critizie a movie you have never even watched.
8:23PM on 08/05/2010
Of course I've seen the whole film. I state that clearly in the first paragraph. What I say is that I've never been able to watch it all the way through in one sitting because I don't find it interesting.
Of course I've seen the whole film. I state that clearly in the first paragraph. What I say is that I've never been able to watch it all the way through in one sitting because I don't find it interesting.
12:53PM on 08/03/2010

Right on half

I totally agree with the first section of this, I had always thought it was just boring, but all your points are right on the mark.

The last bit, however, I reject. The only evidence I've ever seen of a film having a physical impact on the way we think would be small children wanting to buy clown fish or dalmatians after the latest kid's movie came out. And to say that a film could make our world a more dangerous place? That's ludicrous, there have been far more violent films purporting
I totally agree with the first section of this, I had always thought it was just boring, but all your points are right on the mark.

The last bit, however, I reject. The only evidence I've ever seen of a film having a physical impact on the way we think would be small children wanting to buy clown fish or dalmatians after the latest kid's movie came out. And to say that a film could make our world a more dangerous place? That's ludicrous, there have been far more violent films purporting far worse messages, and none of them have caused any kind of breakdown of society.
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12:53PM on 08/03/2010

Not so fast my friend

Matt,
I think you kind of missed the point about the movie. The movie is, to me, clearly about family relationships. It uses the mob as a plot device and bad things happen in the mob, letís not kid ourselves. But I think you focused on the whole "Mafia is bad for American" angle in your column a little too much and became far too aggressive about it.

Outside of the mob itself and some delusional nitwits, who really thinks the mob is good? Do you think that everyone who sees and likes
Matt,
I think you kind of missed the point about the movie. The movie is, to me, clearly about family relationships. It uses the mob as a plot device and bad things happen in the mob, letís not kid ourselves. But I think you focused on the whole "Mafia is bad for American" angle in your column a little too much and became far too aggressive about it.

Outside of the mob itself and some delusional nitwits, who really thinks the mob is good? Do you think that everyone who sees and likes this movie is giving thumbs up to organized crime? By recognizing the brilliance of this movie, are you saying the Oscar people are endorsing the mafia and all they do? The message I got from your article was this: "I don't like the movie because it is too long, has characters I don't care about and looks terrible, due to the coloring." Well, the coloring is something I can't argue against because it's a lame point. It would be like saying," Clerks is terrible because it was shot in black and white."

As for the characters, yeah, I can't relate to them either. I don't know a single person in the mafia. But I do know a lot about fathers who try to look out for their sons, sons who are torn as to whether to follow in their fathers footsteps, brothers who are loose cannons or backstabbers, and relationships that, for whatever reason, didn't end up being what I had envisioned them being in the beginning. Those are the characters from "The Godfather." Every one of them has a story outside of the mafia world in which you want to keep them contained. It's not some existential movie, so I'm not sure whether you missed that or just needed a talking point for your article.

Also, I'd be curious to hear what some of your favorite movies are. I'm sure there are bound to be characters that do bad things in many of yours, so why harp so much on it in this instance? It seems like you wrote an article simply to get a rise (which you obviously did) out of people. I don't think you truly agree, or maybe you really haven't even seen the movie yet.
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12:47PM on 08/03/2010

Bravo

While I am a huge fan of the Godfather trilogy, you did make some excellent points and I am happy to see that finally one of these articles has balls.
While I am a huge fan of the Godfather trilogy, you did make some excellent points and I am happy to see that finally one of these articles has balls.
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12:31PM on 08/03/2010
No.
No.
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12:30PM on 08/03/2010

Well said track100

I totally agree with track100's comment. I love The Godfather, but don't just attack the writer for his honest opinion, (and I quote track100) "prove him wrong with a smoothly crafted rebuttal."
I totally agree with track100's comment. I love The Godfather, but don't just attack the writer for his honest opinion, (and I quote track100) "prove him wrong with a smoothly crafted rebuttal."
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12:47PM on 08/03/2010
to quote ileston "And I always thought that 'The Godfather' was actually a tragedy about how a young man trying to be a good one, eventually falls into everything he hated about his own family because he ultimately loved them."
to quote ileston "And I always thought that 'The Godfather' was actually a tragedy about how a young man trying to be a good one, eventually falls into everything he hated about his own family because he ultimately loved them."
12:24PM on 08/03/2010

Disappointed in JoBloers' Reactions

Your comments make me think I'm back on the IMDB boards. If you don't like what he said, prove him wrong with a smoothly crafted rebuttal.
Your comments make me think I'm back on the IMDB boards. If you don't like what he said, prove him wrong with a smoothly crafted rebuttal.
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12:45PM on 08/03/2010
way to paint with a broad brush, many of the reactions are just what you said are not, well thought out. Just have to read the long ones.
way to paint with a broad brush, many of the reactions are just what you said are not, well thought out. Just have to read the long ones.
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12:19PM on 08/03/2010
Bold statement sir. I don't agree with it but to each his own.
Bold statement sir. I don't agree with it but to each his own.
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12:09PM on 08/03/2010

Thank God!

I have no opinion on the Godfather (I tried watching it once, couldn't get through it) but THANK YOU for finally living up to the name of the article. The debate above and below me is what this article is supposed to accomplish. Thank you.
I have no opinion on the Godfather (I tried watching it once, couldn't get through it) but THANK YOU for finally living up to the name of the article. The debate above and below me is what this article is supposed to accomplish. Thank you.
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12:05PM on 08/03/2010

I have always been a fan of the movie

Wow, so this guy has made me re-examine the film. I was younger when I saw the film and have only seen it a few times since then. But, after reading the article and realizing that the film glorifies the mafia (which is something my dad has also said) I question is Godfather really a good film? All the characters are pretty much archetypes, especially Sonny and Fredo. But Michael is a character that goes through great dramatic change and I think that is what Coppala wanted to show. So the film
Wow, so this guy has made me re-examine the film. I was younger when I saw the film and have only seen it a few times since then. But, after reading the article and realizing that the film glorifies the mafia (which is something my dad has also said) I question is Godfather really a good film? All the characters are pretty much archetypes, especially Sonny and Fredo. But Michael is a character that goes through great dramatic change and I think that is what Coppala wanted to show. So the film gets a an A when it comes to characters, but the message is conflicted and did I really feel any sympathy for mobsters. No, the guy is right the mafia clearly are bullies and as a geek I can never sympathize with bullies. So from believing that I loved this film I have now taken it off its pedestal. But one thing I will say about the look of the film Coppola made every seen look like a worn out paiting, either you think thats stupid, I think its pretty cool.
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11:46AM on 08/03/2010

Insane

Simply insane
Simply insane
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11:30AM on 08/03/2010
You hate The Godfather because of it's characters, infantile views, and for the effect it has had on American culture? Yet you finish off your piece with a shout out to Family Guy?

This column should be called The Unpopular Opinion of a Moron with No Credibility.
You hate The Godfather because of it's characters, infantile views, and for the effect it has had on American culture? Yet you finish off your piece with a shout out to Family Guy?

This column should be called The Unpopular Opinion of a Moron with No Credibility.
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12:19PM on 08/03/2010
At least he back up his opinion and didn't just call Coppula a Moron for making the movie. C'mon, he wins every time someone like you post a comment like this.
At least he back up his opinion and didn't just call Coppula a Moron for making the movie. C'mon, he wins every time someone like you post a comment like this.
1:09PM on 08/03/2010
Whats the matter Mr. Moose? Can't stand people that disagree with you?
Whats the matter Mr. Moose? Can't stand people that disagree with you?
6:55PM on 08/03/2010
track100-I backed up my statement by pointing out that he seems to have no problem with a show that more than embodies everything he hates about GF.
track100-I backed up my statement by pointing out that he seems to have no problem with a show that more than embodies everything he hates about GF.
8:27PM on 08/05/2010
The Family Guy link was added by my editor. I've never seen an episode of FG.
The Family Guy link was added by my editor. I've never seen an episode of FG.
11:26AM on 08/03/2010
seems you don't like a lot of things about the movie, but the film is more than the message.
seems you don't like a lot of things about the movie, but the film is more than the message.
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11:25AM on 08/03/2010
I'm gonna be honest.. I'm not a fan of The Godfather either.. I first saw it in a film class in high school and never gave it much thought after it was over. I tried to get through the sequels but couldn't for some of the reasons you say.. but honestly, this article came across as lazy and immature. So, that's why this bar is red. Bring back the other guy who wrote these columns..
I'm gonna be honest.. I'm not a fan of The Godfather either.. I first saw it in a film class in high school and never gave it much thought after it was over. I tried to get through the sequels but couldn't for some of the reasons you say.. but honestly, this article came across as lazy and immature. So, that's why this bar is red. Bring back the other guy who wrote these columns..
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11:45AM on 08/03/2010
"I'll be back." ;)
"I'll be back." ;)
1:14PM on 08/03/2010
I thought it was a pretty good article actually. I have liked Aaron's articles as well but how many unpopular opinions can one man have?
I thought it was a pretty good article actually. I have liked Aaron's articles as well but how many unpopular opinions can one man have?
2:08PM on 08/03/2010
Brer you hit it right on the head. I just couldnt pump out an Unpopular Opinion once a week without running out of ammo in two months. And I'll never write a column just to incite feedback. Everything I write I mean whole-heartedly (as do the other writers who've taken a crack at this column)
Brer you hit it right on the head. I just couldnt pump out an Unpopular Opinion once a week without running out of ammo in two months. And I'll never write a column just to incite feedback. Everything I write I mean whole-heartedly (as do the other writers who've taken a crack at this column)
10:57AM on 08/03/2010

Ummmm no....

I believe when it comes to art in any form its all about personal taste. That's why I don't believe in award shows for movies, it's all too subjective. BUT all that goes out the window for a few select movies and "The Godfather" is one of them. "The Godfather" does not suck, you may not think it's one of the best films ever made (which I do) fine...but it is a damn good movie. I couldn't take this column seriously, I mean it's "The Godfather".
I believe when it comes to art in any form its all about personal taste. That's why I don't believe in award shows for movies, it's all too subjective. BUT all that goes out the window for a few select movies and "The Godfather" is one of them. "The Godfather" does not suck, you may not think it's one of the best films ever made (which I do) fine...but it is a damn good movie. I couldn't take this column seriously, I mean it's "The Godfather".
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10:51AM on 08/03/2010
Definitely respect your opinion and while I don't love or dislike the movie I will just say that Scarface is an excellent movie in my opinion and that clearly has had more of an effect on people that Godfather ever has.
Definitely respect your opinion and while I don't love or dislike the movie I will just say that Scarface is an excellent movie in my opinion and that clearly has had more of an effect on people that Godfather ever has.
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1:16PM on 08/03/2010
Very true.
Very true.
1:27PM on 08/03/2010
Probably shouldn't read the Unpopular Opinion about Scarface then!
Probably shouldn't read the Unpopular Opinion about Scarface then!
3:15PM on 08/03/2010
you people just don't get my comment. I didn't say Godfather is bad. It is near perfect but it's not my favorite film. Scarface and Pacino's character has influenced and is in our culture more than any character from Godfather.
you people just don't get my comment. I didn't say Godfather is bad. It is near perfect but it's not my favorite film. Scarface and Pacino's character has influenced and is in our culture more than any character from Godfather.
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10:48AM on 08/03/2010

Weird

I'm getting the sense this column is veering into being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

"The biggest thing I despise about The Godfather though, is the effect it has had on American culture." You aren't going to blame American culture for that?

"Don Vito Corleone is little more than a thug with delusions of beneficence. This might be a crazy idea, but Iím of the opinion that if someone has ordered multiple executions, they are not a good role model no matter how good they
I'm getting the sense this column is veering into being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

"The biggest thing I despise about The Godfather though, is the effect it has had on American culture." You aren't going to blame American culture for that?

"Don Vito Corleone is little more than a thug with delusions of beneficence. This might be a crazy idea, but Iím of the opinion that if someone has ordered multiple executions, they are not a good role model no matter how good they feel about themselves." Really - you're just dialing into that now? I don't think any of these people are being held up as heroes, outside of their own delusions and hubris. That was the whole point of the original book, was to document how the money and power that organized crime accrued created this ridiculous world of pomp and circumstance, that is really only respected as far as its power could reach.

"kitchen sink feel" - okay, you're just tossing around terms you heard in a 101 film class now. You can complain about the shots being overly contrived, but kitchen sink realism never comes close to this flick.

I don't have a problem with differing opinions. If people don't like the Godfather, fine. I'm a little disappointed in the reasoning behind the opinion here, as it suggests a total misreading of the point of the film. That and the technical dissection of the film style suggests the person making the opinion has a very limited understanding of the construction of cinema.
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1:30PM on 08/03/2010
You say you don't have a problem with differing opinions but it sort of seems like you do. I also must point out that yes the articles are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian because that is the point of them. If they didn't do it for the sake of being contrarian then it should just be titled the Popular Opinion.
You say you don't have a problem with differing opinions but it sort of seems like you do. I also must point out that yes the articles are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian because that is the point of them. If they didn't do it for the sake of being contrarian then it should just be titled the Popular Opinion.
2:41PM on 08/03/2010
I agree with you though on your assessment that the American culture is mostly to blame for looking up to these characters. I think to really appreciate Matt's opinion on that you would need to live in area surrounded by people who do pretty much base their personalities off such characters. I live in an area where a lot of people idolize these characters, but I agree it is not the films fault, it is the people that base their morals on mafia movies instead of the religion most of them preach.
I agree with you though on your assessment that the American culture is mostly to blame for looking up to these characters. I think to really appreciate Matt's opinion on that you would need to live in area surrounded by people who do pretty much base their personalities off such characters. I live in an area where a lot of people idolize these characters, but I agree it is not the films fault, it is the people that base their morals on mafia movies instead of the religion most of them preach.
4:10PM on 08/03/2010
I don't have a problem with differing opinions. I have a problem with A) - This article just seemed to be made expressly for cutting against the grain, rather than some legitimate arguments. This article reeks of coming up with the stated objective (disagree with one of the most unanimously appreciated films of the 20th century) and then reverse engineer arguments to support them. I've enjoyed reading some of the previous installments, even when I didn't disagree. This is the first one
I don't have a problem with differing opinions. I have a problem with A) - This article just seemed to be made expressly for cutting against the grain, rather than some legitimate arguments. This article reeks of coming up with the stated objective (disagree with one of the most unanimously appreciated films of the 20th century) and then reverse engineer arguments to support them. I've enjoyed reading some of the previous installments, even when I didn't disagree. This is the first one where I felt the logic was specious, and a lot of the conclusions were negative, but seemed to be off base from what other people said. Which leads me to B...

B) The reasoning behind the opinion is poor - which I stated pretty clearly. There's no glorifying of these characters - except of th glorifying they do to each other. You consistently see them actly like animals and tear each other apart. I don't think these guys are supposed to be role models or looked up to anymore than the guys in Goodfellas or The Sopranos. If some meathead wants to idolize them, that's his business. Essentially the argument is - I don't want to idolize these characters, so its a bad movie, overlooks the simple option of enjoying a good movie about bad people.

C:) Finally - the assessment of the technical merits of the film just don't match up with what's on screen.
10:43AM on 08/03/2010
The point of this movie was to un-glamorize the mafia. The things these characters do are unlikeable, and we're supposed to be seeing what it's like to live their lives. It's not a campaign ad for mafia life... it's actually kind of the opposite...
The point of this movie was to un-glamorize the mafia. The things these characters do are unlikeable, and we're supposed to be seeing what it's like to live their lives. It's not a campaign ad for mafia life... it's actually kind of the opposite...
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10:25AM on 08/03/2010

"It caused me to spend waaay too long in Italy!??!"

I get your opinion and respect it, but that doesn't really explain why its a bad movie. The whole 'the characters are unlikable' thing is now just becoming an excuse for people to dislike dramatic movies when they can't find any actual faults with the filmmaking itself. I hate satanic power/demons, but I was able to appreciate The Exorcist. I know you pointed out that the acting wasn't very good but...man do I disagree with that. Brando, Pacino and Duvall all on their top game - bad?
I get your opinion and respect it, but that doesn't really explain why its a bad movie. The whole 'the characters are unlikable' thing is now just becoming an excuse for people to dislike dramatic movies when they can't find any actual faults with the filmmaking itself. I hate satanic power/demons, but I was able to appreciate The Exorcist. I know you pointed out that the acting wasn't very good but...man do I disagree with that. Brando, Pacino and Duvall all on their top game - bad? hmm...

So yeah, an unpopular opinion that I can accept but that just feels kinda odd coming from a visitor of this website. Surely you don't like any gangster movies right?

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10:33AM on 08/03/2010
I like Goodfellas and Casino, but it is definitely not my favorite genre.
I like Goodfellas and Casino, but it is definitely not my favorite genre.
1:32PM on 08/03/2010
I think Brando was the only good thing about the movie.
I think Brando was the only good thing about the movie.
10:23AM on 08/03/2010

They're good not masterpieces!

I had high hopes for the godfather when i first saw them as they get so well placed in film history but i never really found them great sure they are a good watch and quite quant now but when you got someone like scorsese with goodfellas, casino and departed they easily knock the shit out of the godfathers and I actually now dont mind 3 but it took a while.
I had high hopes for the godfather when i first saw them as they get so well placed in film history but i never really found them great sure they are a good watch and quite quant now but when you got someone like scorsese with goodfellas, casino and departed they easily knock the shit out of the godfathers and I actually now dont mind 3 but it took a while.
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10:19AM on 08/03/2010
I understand disagreeing with the writer, but the series of insults and claims of bias and fanboyism in the comments page is assinine, especially with a column thats sole purpose is to challenge the popular opinion.

Anyone who says the writer didn't get the movie obviously doesn't get the column and should find a site that is only willing to back up their own opinions (rather than the occasional healthy debate).

I should point out not every comment was unfair
I understand disagreeing with the writer, but the series of insults and claims of bias and fanboyism in the comments page is assinine, especially with a column thats sole purpose is to challenge the popular opinion.

Anyone who says the writer didn't get the movie obviously doesn't get the column and should find a site that is only willing to back up their own opinions (rather than the occasional healthy debate).

I should point out not every comment was unfair
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10:17AM on 08/03/2010
I respectfully disagree. I don't think Godfather harmed society anymore than Blow, Public Enemies, The Sopranos or any other criminal genre film has affected society.

Just because a bad person is a "protagonist" in a movie doesn't make them a "hero", or someone to look up to.
I respectfully disagree. I don't think Godfather harmed society anymore than Blow, Public Enemies, The Sopranos or any other criminal genre film has affected society.

Just because a bad person is a "protagonist" in a movie doesn't make them a "hero", or someone to look up to.
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10:10AM on 08/03/2010
Disagree.

The acting in this movie is second to none. Possibly Marlon Brando's best performance.

It's well worth its 8.5 on IMDB.

Regarding the sequels, well, thats another question.
Disagree.

The acting in this movie is second to none. Possibly Marlon Brando's best performance.

It's well worth its 8.5 on IMDB.

Regarding the sequels, well, thats another question.
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9:54AM on 08/03/2010
I thought only Armond White likes to dislike all critically acclaimed movies, being such a douchebag begging for attention. I guess not.
I thought only Armond White likes to dislike all critically acclaimed movies, being such a douchebag begging for attention. I guess not.
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9:53AM on 08/03/2010

F*ck, this movie is boring.

While I think this article focuses too much on the content being "bad for society" or whatever (that's just the subject matter, not the story), I have to agree that I have not been able to sit through this entire movie in one sitting. This is because it is really effing boring. Like, really slow and boring. I don't care about your respect of your weird crime family. I just never cared enough to sit through it. That makes it a boring movie.
While I think this article focuses too much on the content being "bad for society" or whatever (that's just the subject matter, not the story), I have to agree that I have not been able to sit through this entire movie in one sitting. This is because it is really effing boring. Like, really slow and boring. I don't care about your respect of your weird crime family. I just never cared enough to sit through it. That makes it a boring movie.
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9:48AM on 08/03/2010

In the efforts of fairness....

I did not like the Godfather series either. I can appreciate its technical and cinematic quality, hence making it a great film. I just did not enjoy it. So to sum this up, it is not a bad movie, just not one liked by all (which can be said about every movie really.)
I did not like the Godfather series either. I can appreciate its technical and cinematic quality, hence making it a great film. I just did not enjoy it. So to sum this up, it is not a bad movie, just not one liked by all (which can be said about every movie really.)
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9:44AM on 08/03/2010

looking for a reaction

grow up!!!!
grow up!!!!
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9:38AM on 08/03/2010
For the next article I suggest "Schindler's List." Explain how the movie is awful because the Nazis were bad guys and any movie that spotlights them is a bad movie. That would work.
For the next article I suggest "Schindler's List." Explain how the movie is awful because the Nazis were bad guys and any movie that spotlights them is a bad movie. That would work.
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9:41AM on 08/03/2010
Actully I quite liked SL even though I do not typically care for holocaust dramas.
Actully I quite liked SL even though I do not typically care for holocaust dramas.
9:58AM on 08/03/2010
What a stupid example - I get where you are going with this, but think about who the protagonist is in Schindler's List, and then in The Godfather, and tell me how they are similar.

You should have compared it to Public Enemies.... Oh wait, that movie sucked too. Just like The Godfather.
What a stupid example - I get where you are going with this, but think about who the protagonist is in Schindler's List, and then in The Godfather, and tell me how they are similar.

You should have compared it to Public Enemies.... Oh wait, that movie sucked too. Just like The Godfather.
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9:31AM on 08/03/2010
these outlandish and idiotic unpopular opinions only work to make me blow off any opinion joblo.com has on anything.

i used to think you guys actually LIKED film. now i know better... you like hot girls, comic books and sensationalism.

not a cinephile amongst you.
these outlandish and idiotic unpopular opinions only work to make me blow off any opinion joblo.com has on anything.

i used to think you guys actually LIKED film. now i know better... you like hot girls, comic books and sensationalism.

not a cinephile amongst you.
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9:36AM on 08/03/2010
You prefer to only be exposed to people who are in lock step with your opinions?
You prefer to only be exposed to people who are in lock step with your opinions?
9:57AM on 08/03/2010
your ploy is to pick a beloved movie and bash it to whip us into a frenzy right?

well i fell for it so take a bow.

I won't be reading this columns anymore.
your ploy is to pick a beloved movie and bash it to whip us into a frenzy right?

well i fell for it so take a bow.

I won't be reading this columns anymore.
9:23AM on 08/03/2010

It Really Couldn't Be Any More Transparent...

...that this article was written for pure shock value. Newsflash: Not everyone likes The Godfather, however, not for most of reasons you gave. Also, comparing your opinions to that of Peter Griffin, a character who was actually diagnosed as being legally retarded, doesn't bode well for your argument either, FYI....
...that this article was written for pure shock value. Newsflash: Not everyone likes The Godfather, however, not for most of reasons you gave. Also, comparing your opinions to that of Peter Griffin, a character who was actually diagnosed as being legally retarded, doesn't bode well for your argument either, FYI....
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9:31AM on 08/03/2010
The tidbit was an editorial edition that was not part of my initial article. I had the idea for this column before I was ever aware of that Family Guy clip.
The tidbit was an editorial edition that was not part of my initial article. I had the idea for this column before I was ever aware of that Family Guy clip.
9:38AM on 08/03/2010
Well, then you should have it taken down. It does nothing to lend credence to your opinion and seems to completely undermine any form of "argument" you put down for the readers.
Well, then you should have it taken down. It does nothing to lend credence to your opinion and seems to completely undermine any form of "argument" you put down for the readers.
9:42AM on 08/03/2010
Not my call, but I'll pass your opinion along to the powers that be.
Not my call, but I'll pass your opinion along to the powers that be.
9:44AM on 08/03/2010
Didn't say that you were inspired by Griffin, just pointing out how adding said link is more of a determent to your article more than anything since Griffin also lists fairly arbitrary and vague reasons as to why he doesn't like the film either. Sure, you most certainly intended to end on a funny note, but it really just reinforces the response many people have been giving you, which is that you honestly didn't "get it," as cliche as that sounds.
Didn't say that you were inspired by Griffin, just pointing out how adding said link is more of a determent to your article more than anything since Griffin also lists fairly arbitrary and vague reasons as to why he doesn't like the film either. Sure, you most certainly intended to end on a funny note, but it really just reinforces the response many people have been giving you, which is that you honestly didn't "get it," as cliche as that sounds.
9:53AM on 08/03/2010
As I just stated, I didn't add that. My editor did. And you can disagree with my opinion, but I find the assertion that I make vague points in the article puzzling.
As I just stated, I didn't add that. My editor did. And you can disagree with my opinion, but I find the assertion that I make vague points in the article puzzling.
1:53PM on 08/03/2010
Are we really making a big deal about the Peter Griffin thing?
Are we really making a big deal about the Peter Griffin thing?
8:59AM on 08/03/2010
When you start out a review by warning readers "it's only going to get worse", you clearly know your intended effect, and you're being willfully contrary. Of course, that's the point of the article, but still, if you think this film is "infantile" and it's trying to glorify the Mafia... you didn't understand it at its most basic level.
When you start out a review by warning readers "it's only going to get worse", you clearly know your intended effect, and you're being willfully contrary. Of course, that's the point of the article, but still, if you think this film is "infantile" and it's trying to glorify the Mafia... you didn't understand it at its most basic level.
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9:34AM on 08/03/2010
Knowing the effect a contrary opinion will have is definitely not the same thing as being willfully contrary. I knew that my opinion on the movie would be a good fit for this column because I knew it would be a very unpopular opinion since I've written for the site for 6 years. But my opinion is based on the failings of the movie, not changing what I think to get a rise out of the internets.
Knowing the effect a contrary opinion will have is definitely not the same thing as being willfully contrary. I knew that my opinion on the movie would be a good fit for this column because I knew it would be a very unpopular opinion since I've written for the site for 6 years. But my opinion is based on the failings of the movie, not changing what I think to get a rise out of the internets.
8:37AM on 08/03/2010

THIS FILM HAS TO BE STOPPED!

It's message will warp the minds of the innocent and promote worldwide violence! The planet will fold in upon itself as we all embrace this movie's mantra and descend merrily into lives of organized crime!

Oh...wait, it's almost forty years old? Pretty sure that it's too late to save us, cowboy.
It's message will warp the minds of the innocent and promote worldwide violence! The planet will fold in upon itself as we all embrace this movie's mantra and descend merrily into lives of organized crime!

Oh...wait, it's almost forty years old? Pretty sure that it's too late to save us, cowboy.
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8:35AM on 08/03/2010
Maybe in relation to the book they messed it up, just like they did with the Bourne series, but the movies were actually alright. Just like this one.
Maybe in relation to the book they messed it up, just like they did with the Bourne series, but the movies were actually alright. Just like this one.
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8:35AM on 08/03/2010
I see where your coming from Matt. I agree 100% with you about the mafia culture, I mean where the fuck do they come off demanding respect when they give none. Sopranos made this evident in almost every episode, which like the movie is why both are fantastic in their character development. The characters in The Godfather are just as much in the hype as the viewers are, and in no way do I or I bet anyone finds them as good role models, but rather people you never want to aspire to be. I mean
I see where your coming from Matt. I agree 100% with you about the mafia culture, I mean where the fuck do they come off demanding respect when they give none. Sopranos made this evident in almost every episode, which like the movie is why both are fantastic in their character development. The characters in The Godfather are just as much in the hype as the viewers are, and in no way do I or I bet anyone finds them as good role models, but rather people you never want to aspire to be. I mean after all the strippers and booze runs out, what are you left with...a hard on and a hangover.
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8:34AM on 08/03/2010

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I have to completely agree with this one. The mob and the mafia is way over-glorified and this film has destroyed members of our society into thinking gang violence and aggressive behavior is okay. Oliver Stone should be hung out to dry and sent back to Cuba where he belongs. Oh wait, is this about The Godfather? You so crazy.
I have to completely agree with this one. The mob and the mafia is way over-glorified and this film has destroyed members of our society into thinking gang violence and aggressive behavior is okay. Oliver Stone should be hung out to dry and sent back to Cuba where he belongs. Oh wait, is this about The Godfather? You so crazy.
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8:30AM on 08/03/2010

To quote one Mr. Bale...

"Uh, you don't fuckin' get it."

Seriously. Anyone who thinks this film is an endorsement of its subject matter doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
"Uh, you don't fuckin' get it."

Seriously. Anyone who thinks this film is an endorsement of its subject matter doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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8:19AM on 08/03/2010
Someone was watching "Family Guy" and thought this would be a good idea.

As expected, a sanctimonious opinion on a masterpiece you COMPLETELY missed the point on. "Mafia bad! Boo!" Ugh.
Someone was watching "Family Guy" and thought this would be a good idea.

As expected, a sanctimonious opinion on a masterpiece you COMPLETELY missed the point on. "Mafia bad! Boo!" Ugh.
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9:40AM on 08/03/2010
I like your posts usually, and love the profile pic, but honestly all this "you missed the point" commenting is as lazy a response as "God works in mysterious ways".
I like your posts usually, and love the profile pic, but honestly all this "you missed the point" commenting is as lazy a response as "God works in mysterious ways".
8:17AM on 08/03/2010
it kinda seems like you really didn't want to like it to begin with. that's just my opinion.
it kinda seems like you really didn't want to like it to begin with. that's just my opinion.
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9:43AM on 08/03/2010
I was very excited to see it the first time.
I was very excited to see it the first time.
8:14AM on 08/03/2010

*(Sigh)*........

Rather than completely fly off the handle, all I'm going to say is I disagree with every single one of your points and I think you missed the most important theme of this film. Please go and re-watch it with a more open mind because it sounds like you had a negative opinion already set in before you even watched "The Godfather."

But hey if you don't like it, you don't like it. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it of course.

Nevertheless, now I'm going to be aggravated all day
Rather than completely fly off the handle, all I'm going to say is I disagree with every single one of your points and I think you missed the most important theme of this film. Please go and re-watch it with a more open mind because it sounds like you had a negative opinion already set in before you even watched "The Godfather."

But hey if you don't like it, you don't like it. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it of course.

Nevertheless, now I'm going to be aggravated all day at work now.....
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7:59AM on 08/03/2010
I disagree with your opinion but I get where you were going. I like The Godfather 1 & 2 but I don't like Part 3 that much. As for Part 1 & 2, sure they have long scenes that I think they can cut down a bit and make both movies more to-the-point than just make characters pondering and thinking and all. Just some scenes. Overall I personally think The Godfather 1&2 are good films. The 3rd one was a bit overkill but managed to be okay.
I disagree with your opinion but I get where you were going. I like The Godfather 1 & 2 but I don't like Part 3 that much. As for Part 1 & 2, sure they have long scenes that I think they can cut down a bit and make both movies more to-the-point than just make characters pondering and thinking and all. Just some scenes. Overall I personally think The Godfather 1&2 are good films. The 3rd one was a bit overkill but managed to be okay.
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7:57AM on 08/03/2010
I liked The Godfather but I agree with a lot of your comments. I think this movie is very overrated. All organized crime movies are basically nothing more than a glamorization. And while some of these movies show negative aspects, it doesn't counteract the empowerment and glorification these characters are given. I simply lack the fascination with organized crime on film as many others do. For instance, I couldn't care less about The Dark Knight in terms of The Joker's plot. I wish Batman
I liked The Godfather but I agree with a lot of your comments. I think this movie is very overrated. All organized crime movies are basically nothing more than a glamorization. And while some of these movies show negative aspects, it doesn't counteract the empowerment and glorification these characters are given. I simply lack the fascination with organized crime on film as many others do. For instance, I couldn't care less about The Dark Knight in terms of The Joker's plot. I wish Batman had hit him with his bike. It would have saved Gotham City, the Rachel Dawes imposter, Harvey Dent, and myself a lot of aggravation.
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7:42AM on 08/03/2010

ytmnd

i made an account just to say this: i agree. this is why i read joblo. it seems like it's written by a bunch of dudes i would hang out with.

i've agreed with most of the unpopular opinions i've read lately. i've seen the godfather a few times and i right now i can't even remember what it's about.
i made an account just to say this: i agree. this is why i read joblo. it seems like it's written by a bunch of dudes i would hang out with.

i've agreed with most of the unpopular opinions i've read lately. i've seen the godfather a few times and i right now i can't even remember what it's about.
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8:30AM on 08/03/2010
"i've seen the godfather a few times and i right now i can't even remember what it's about." Says more about you than about the film.
"i've seen the godfather a few times and i right now i can't even remember what it's about." Says more about you than about the film.
12:34PM on 08/03/2010
boom roasted
boom roasted
7:06AM on 08/03/2010
I respectfully disagree, but I can see where you're coming from.
I respectfully disagree, but I can see where you're coming from.
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6:58AM on 08/03/2010
I admire your balls for voicing this opinion, but you have so misunderstood this movie. I do not think that for one minute it tries to glamourous or condone the mafia, it merely puts a human face on it's members and doesn't judge. One dimensional characters?! Sorry, but that's just complete rubbish. I've never had someone write such a completely misinformed review of such a great movie before!
I admire your balls for voicing this opinion, but you have so misunderstood this movie. I do not think that for one minute it tries to glamourous or condone the mafia, it merely puts a human face on it's members and doesn't judge. One dimensional characters?! Sorry, but that's just complete rubbish. I've never had someone write such a completely misinformed review of such a great movie before!
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6:02AM on 08/03/2010
Wouldn't call it a bad movie since it definitely has some great moments, but it's not one I've ever felt I had to add to my collection. Felt bored at parts and intrigued in others. It was a "meh" at 3/5
Wouldn't call it a bad movie since it definitely has some great moments, but it's not one I've ever felt I had to add to my collection. Felt bored at parts and intrigued in others. It was a "meh" at 3/5
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5:53AM on 08/03/2010

It's a 4/5 movie for me...

Because it's technically perfect in many ways. Its fatal flaw for me is the same as you said about not caring about the characters. Robert Duvall gives the best performance imo, he's massively underrated in the first two and sorely missed in Part III. I always thought Marlon Brando was secretly taking the piss with his performance here. While I'm not nearly as down on it as you, it's good to hear from people who don't accept as gospel that it's perfect.
Because it's technically perfect in many ways. Its fatal flaw for me is the same as you said about not caring about the characters. Robert Duvall gives the best performance imo, he's massively underrated in the first two and sorely missed in Part III. I always thought Marlon Brando was secretly taking the piss with his performance here. While I'm not nearly as down on it as you, it's good to hear from people who don't accept as gospel that it's perfect.
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5:52AM on 08/03/2010

Wow....

I can't even put together a response to this...
I can't even put together a response to this...