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Vin Diesel's mystery Phase 3 project at Marvel may be a gamechanger

Sep. 9, 2013by:

Vin Diesel hasn't confirmed that he is voicing Groot in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, but he also isn't denying it. We do know that prior to the Groot role that Diesel was approached for a new Marvel property but we are unsure what it would be aside from "fresh IP". Now, Diesel has shed a little more light on that mysterious project.

Diesel told Maria Menounos that the project he was originally approached for was going to be for one of the currently unknown 2016 Marvel films. Which one is still pure speculation, but these comments may shed some light on that Phase 3 movie:

"[It] is something so big I can't even talk about because it's like the merging of brands in a way which I won't get into."

The idea of merging of brands may sound like crossover films, but I would venture to guess it is something more than just Marvel characters meeting other Marvel characters. To date, THE AVENGERS and other Marvel movies have shared a single universe and characters have appeared in each others movies, but they are all part of a single brand: Marvel. The word merging triggers ideas to me of Disney characters crossing with Marvel, or possibly Marvel meeting STAR WARS. Or, it could be a wholly original superhero that exists in the Disney universe. The possibilities are truly endless if this turns out to be true.

The question that arises from this is whether or not this is a good idea. Do we want to keep Marvel, Disney, and Lucasfilm distinct from one another or is crossing brands a good idea? There was recently an episode of Disney's PHINEAS and FERB that showcased animated Marvel heroes. It worked and was well done, but can this same thing work on the big screen? If anyone could do it, Vin Diesel has the presence to pull it off. But, I think this really depends on what this merging actually will be.

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (possibly) with Vin Diesel will open August 1, 2014.

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9:28PM on 09/11/2013
Maybe I'm just drunk but I could totally see Vin Diesel playing either Apocalypse or Darkseid in a movie.
Maybe I'm just drunk but I could totally see Vin Diesel playing either Apocalypse or Darkseid in a movie.
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2:09AM on 09/11/2013

Vin Diesel in an Avengers crossover?! heh...

not a chance: vin diesel plays a Sith Lord in an Avengers vs Star Wars crossover
least likely: vin disel plays Apocalypse in an Avengers vs X-men crossover
less likely: vin diesel plays Galactus in an Avengers vs Fantastic 4 crossover
just as less likely: vin diesel plays Kraven in an Avengers vs Spider-man crossover
most likely but still probably not: vin diesel plays Thanos in an Avengers vs Guardians of the Galaxy crossover
while we're at it, surewhy not?: vin diesel plays Darkseid in
not a chance: vin diesel plays a Sith Lord in an Avengers vs Star Wars crossover
least likely: vin disel plays Apocalypse in an Avengers vs X-men crossover
less likely: vin diesel plays Galactus in an Avengers vs Fantastic 4 crossover
just as less likely: vin diesel plays Kraven in an Avengers vs Spider-man crossover
most likely but still probably not: vin diesel plays Thanos in an Avengers vs Guardians of the Galaxy crossover
while we're at it, surewhy not?: vin diesel plays Darkseid in an Avengers vs Batman vs Superman crossover.
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1:38PM on 09/10/2013
Is this like when he teased his involvement in a big Marvel project and it turned out he was voicing fucking Groot in the least anticipated Marvel movie since the rebirth of Marvel films? I hope they pull it off, but no one has any fucking idea what Guardians of the Galaxy is. Hell, I'm a huge comics nerd and I have no idea what it is really.
Is this like when he teased his involvement in a big Marvel project and it turned out he was voicing fucking Groot in the least anticipated Marvel movie since the rebirth of Marvel films? I hope they pull it off, but no one has any fucking idea what Guardians of the Galaxy is. Hell, I'm a huge comics nerd and I have no idea what it is really.
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11:06AM on 09/10/2013

Hmmmm

Think he'll play Riddick in a Marvel movie?
Think he'll play Riddick in a Marvel movie?
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9:57AM on 09/10/2013
I think Vin was referring to himself as one of the 'brands' actually. I'm still hoping he's going to be cast as Kingpin and Marvel will announce a Marvel Knights phase.
I think Vin was referring to himself as one of the 'brands' actually. I'm still hoping he's going to be cast as Kingpin and Marvel will announce a Marvel Knights phase.
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9:55AM on 09/10/2013

stupid idea

Marvel has so many characters in it's universe, if they tried to "merge brands" it would be anightmare and amess I think. Look at X3 and spidey3, those were singular properties so to speak that they tried to do too much with in one movie. Do not think it's a good idea and I don't think marvel fans would appreciate it.
Marvel has so many characters in it's universe, if they tried to "merge brands" it would be anightmare and amess I think. Look at X3 and spidey3, those were singular properties so to speak that they tried to do too much with in one movie. Do not think it's a good idea and I don't think marvel fans would appreciate it.
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5:50AM on 09/10/2013
Further to DareDevil's post about merging Riddick with the Marvel world...now that's something I can see Vin Diesel going "wow" about!
Further to DareDevil's post about merging Riddick with the Marvel world...now that's something I can see Vin Diesel going "wow" about!
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5:44AM on 09/10/2013
I don't think they'd have the balls to do it (but if they did...infinite kudos to them). Crossovers are nothing new to the comic book world (loved Batman / Predator or Superman / Aliens... or that one where Robocop played some part in the creation of the Terminators). Just treat each world as a different dimension... and it can all work. Hell, what's to say Star Wars does not exist in the Marvel dimension ... it's just a very... very... very...far away universe. By the way, Disney loves
I don't think they'd have the balls to do it (but if they did...infinite kudos to them). Crossovers are nothing new to the comic book world (loved Batman / Predator or Superman / Aliens... or that one where Robocop played some part in the creation of the Terminators). Just treat each world as a different dimension... and it can all work. Hell, what's to say Star Wars does not exist in the Marvel dimension ... it's just a very... very... very...far away universe. By the way, Disney loves crossovers - for those that have kids (or perhaps you just never grew up) and watch stuff like Wizards of Waverly Place and the Suite life of Zack and Cody. I dont think theyre pulled off very well but the point is they like doing them.
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1:35AM on 09/10/2013
It's either a team-up movie, such as Iron Man joining the Guardians like the current comic arc, or he's Thanos in Avengers 3 which pretty much involves almost everyone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I think he's just being loose with the "merging brands" analogy.
It's either a team-up movie, such as Iron Man joining the Guardians like the current comic arc, or he's Thanos in Avengers 3 which pretty much involves almost everyone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I think he's just being loose with the "merging brands" analogy.
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1:06AM on 09/10/2013

Looking to much into it... And a little late...

It was later confirmed that 'Fresh IP' meant 'New Inhuman Project' and he was being considered for Black Bolt (best Marvel casting idea for Vin yet) then there's this talk of 'Merging two Brands' which makes me think that Vin is trying to set it up to have Marvel/Disney buy out the rights to Riddick. Makes more sense than creating a new character or morphing two exsisting characters together.

Universal would probably do it. For pretty cheap as well since they fucked up the release on the new
It was later confirmed that 'Fresh IP' meant 'New Inhuman Project' and he was being considered for Black Bolt (best Marvel casting idea for Vin yet) then there's this talk of 'Merging two Brands' which makes me think that Vin is trying to set it up to have Marvel/Disney buy out the rights to Riddick. Makes more sense than creating a new character or morphing two exsisting characters together.

Universal would probably do it. For pretty cheap as well since they fucked up the release on the new Riddick so badly.

And yes he's confirmed he's going to do the voice ANd the mocap work for GOTG. Atleast from everything I've heard.


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5:47AM on 09/10/2013
Sh*t, didn't think of Riddick - that would be cool! Comic books have often introduced a character from another universe when the owners bought the rights to them. I think The Question or whatever he's called came in to the DC world like that.
Sh*t, didn't think of Riddick - that would be cool! Comic books have often introduced a character from another universe when the owners bought the rights to them. I think The Question or whatever he's called came in to the DC world like that.
11:00PM on 09/09/2013

Slow your role

Vinny should slow his roll. I love the guy. I love his movies, I love tigon studios, I love that he played D&D. But even I thought Riddick could have been way better. He has good ideas, but he has trouble implementing them. I hope his loose lips Don't cost him his role.
Vinny should slow his roll. I love the guy. I love his movies, I love tigon studios, I love that he played D&D. But even I thought Riddick could have been way better. He has good ideas, but he has trouble implementing them. I hope his loose lips Don't cost him his role.
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9:54PM on 09/09/2013

"Vin Diesel hasn't confirmed that he is voicing Groot" = Umm what?

In that very interview with Maria Menounos, Diesel flat out says that he is playing groot. Even talks about how his daughter wanted him to play a tree, so he had to do it. He also confirmed that Groot only has one line that is repeated over and over.
In that very interview with Maria Menounos, Diesel flat out says that he is playing groot. Even talks about how his daughter wanted him to play a tree, so he had to do it. He also confirmed that Groot only has one line that is repeated over and over.
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9:31PM on 09/09/2013
Maybe he was considered for the role of Galactus? It would technically be a merging of brands since the whole Fantastic Four characters and supporting roles are currently with Fox.
IMO Diesel would have made a perfect Drax, but I suppose Bautista will do just fine.
Maybe he was considered for the role of Galactus? It would technically be a merging of brands since the whole Fantastic Four characters and supporting roles are currently with Fox.
IMO Diesel would have made a perfect Drax, but I suppose Bautista will do just fine.
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8:55PM on 09/09/2013
"I am Groot. I am just Groot. I swear."
"I am Groot. I am just Groot. I swear."
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8:54PM on 09/09/2013
Merging of the brands - Maybe Pixar does a Marvel movie? The Incredibles enter the Marvel universe?
Merging of the brands - Maybe Pixar does a Marvel movie? The Incredibles enter the Marvel universe?
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5:52AM on 09/10/2013
Perhaps a clever way to get the Fantastic Four in to their world ;o)
Perhaps a clever way to get the Fantastic Four in to their world ;o)
8:26PM on 09/09/2013
uhh....these ideas rarely work.
uhh....these ideas rarely work.
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7:44PM on 09/09/2013
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7:42PM on 09/09/2013
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7:27PM on 09/09/2013
Vin Diesel IS Speedball: The Masked Marvel !!!!
Vin Diesel IS Speedball: The Masked Marvel !!!!
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7:21PM on 09/09/2013
avengers 3 w/ the guardians. diesel playing thanos as the villain.....maybe.
stars wars meets marvel? lol
avengers 3 w/ the guardians. diesel playing thanos as the villain.....maybe.
stars wars meets marvel? lol
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6:58PM on 09/09/2013

Star wars comics

Now if I remember correctly, back in the 80's, I had dozens of Star Wars comic books. And they were all distributed by Marvel. Does that really mean anything? No. But there has to be someone around Marvel or the Star Wars brand that is aware of this.
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Now if I remember correctly, back in the 80's, I had dozens of Star Wars comic books. And they were all distributed by Marvel. Does that really mean anything? No. But there has to be someone around Marvel or the Star Wars brand that is aware of this.
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6:22PM on 09/09/2013
Marvel superheroes meets Star Wars sounds fun, but I think they wouldn't combine at all. Star Wars is distant future space colonies, with a touch of the force. To suddenly have present-day MetaHumans in supersuits show up would destroy the grounding for both universes. Unless maybe if they set Guardians of the Galaxy in the future and have them fight the Sith. Riddick might work in Star Wars too I guess.
Marvel superheroes meets Star Wars sounds fun, but I think they wouldn't combine at all. Star Wars is distant future space colonies, with a touch of the force. To suddenly have present-day MetaHumans in supersuits show up would destroy the grounding for both universes. Unless maybe if they set Guardians of the Galaxy in the future and have them fight the Sith. Riddick might work in Star Wars too I guess.
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7:06PM on 09/09/2013
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."
7:14PM on 09/09/2013
Posted from the distant future, mate
Posted from the distant future, mate
6:05PM on 09/09/2013

Don't tell me...

Don't tell me that they are listening and getting ideas from the Patton Oswalt rant. [link]
Don't tell me that they are listening and getting ideas from the Patton Oswalt rant. [link]
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5:30PM on 09/09/2013
A fusion of Marvel and Disney properties? It has to be that oft discussed favourite Doctor Doom vs Bambi.
Mmmmm, venison.
A fusion of Marvel and Disney properties? It has to be that oft discussed favourite Doctor Doom vs Bambi.
Mmmmm, venison.
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5:22PM on 09/09/2013

I've said this in amongst my thoughts on other Marvel related articles...

but with only four films slated between Avengers 2 and 3, they need to make some room for the newbies.

We have Ant-Man up first, with strong suggestions of a Doctor Strange film... and whilst I thought they could perhaps get away with introducing Black Panther within the Captain America series.... I now think Black Panther* will be the third film newbie meaning....

I predict that this merging of franchises will be Captain America 3 and Thor 3 - being the one and same film. I reckon Vin
but with only four films slated between Avengers 2 and 3, they need to make some room for the newbies.

We have Ant-Man up first, with strong suggestions of a Doctor Strange film... and whilst I thought they could perhaps get away with introducing Black Panther within the Captain America series.... I now think Black Panther* will be the third film newbie meaning....

I predict that this merging of franchises will be Captain America 3 and Thor 3 - being the one and same film. I reckon Vin Diesel will play a villain (I wouldn't like to guess who myself) that will be big enough to bring two of the big Avengers together but not so big that you'd need the rest of them...

* There's also the possibility that, rather than Black Panther, they bring in Daredevil (which is where you'll probably get Black Widow's token mid-phase appearance?)
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5:11PM on 09/09/2013
Here's a list of properties owned by Disney, in case anyone wants to try their hand at this:
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Here's a list of properties owned by Disney, in case anyone wants to try their hand at this:
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4:57PM on 09/09/2013
stay away from Star Wars please!
stay away from Star Wars please!
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4:45PM on 09/09/2013
he better end up being the vision who ends up building a teleporter between the "different marvel universes"(Fox and Disney)
he better end up being the vision who ends up building a teleporter between the "different marvel universes"(Fox and Disney)
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4:45PM on 09/09/2013

It's gotta be

A brand that's in-house. Marvel already knows they can make billion dollar movies. Unless they think adding other studios properties will get em over 2 billion it's going to be something they already have the rights to.
A brand that's in-house. Marvel already knows they can make billion dollar movies. Unless they think adding other studios properties will get em over 2 billion it's going to be something they already have the rights to.
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4:22PM on 09/09/2013
Indiana Jones, Captain America, and the Rocketeer. Together. Fighting Nazis.
Indiana Jones, Captain America, and the Rocketeer. Together. Fighting Nazis.
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4:18PM on 09/09/2013

It sounds crazy but....

I'm just saying, Vin Diesel and a merging of brands makes me think that Riddick could be coming to the Marvel universe... I know most would be against this but it could fit into the whole Guardians/Outter Space era they are moving towards...
I'm just saying, Vin Diesel and a merging of brands makes me think that Riddick could be coming to the Marvel universe... I know most would be against this but it could fit into the whole Guardians/Outter Space era they are moving towards...
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4:44PM on 09/09/2013
I doubt it's going to happen. It isn't impossible though considering Diesel himself owns the rights to Riddick.
I doubt it's going to happen. It isn't impossible though considering Diesel himself owns the rights to Riddick.
4:10PM on 09/09/2013
I like Vin, but he talks a lot of shit and likes to stir up hype with his fanboys by throwing vague shit like that out there. I doubt it's anything as major as what people are speculating it to be.
I like Vin, but he talks a lot of shit and likes to stir up hype with his fanboys by throwing vague shit like that out there. I doubt it's anything as major as what people are speculating it to be.
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4:07PM on 09/09/2013

It's gotta be

A brand that's in-house. Marvel already knows they can make billion dollar movies. Unless they think adding other studios properties will get em over 2 billion it's going to be something they already have the rights to.
A brand that's in-house. Marvel already knows they can make billion dollar movies. Unless they think adding other studios properties will get em over 2 billion it's going to be something they already have the rights to.
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4:04PM on 09/09/2013
Maybe Marvel + X-Men, with Vin as Apocalypse?
Maybe Marvel + X-Men, with Vin as Apocalypse?
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4:03PM on 09/09/2013

Fast and Furious meets Marvel?

Merging of brands makes me think of two separate universes (or films) coming together in an epic way. Hopefully it'll be revealed soon what this all means.
Merging of brands makes me think of two separate universes (or films) coming together in an epic way. Hopefully it'll be revealed soon what this all means.
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3:59PM on 09/09/2013

While I know it will never happen

Marvel/Star Wars? DC vs Marvel? Avenges vs X-men? Spiderman joining the Avengers? all of these are just long shots, Marvel/Star Wars will of course never happen, it wouldn't make sense, DC vs Marvel would be amazing to see on the big screen, but again it just wont happen sadly, (although I bet Diesel could pull off Access) the last two are the more likely to happen if anything with Spiderman probably a lot more likely than X-Men, but these are all long shots and he said its LIKE the merging of
Marvel/Star Wars? DC vs Marvel? Avenges vs X-men? Spiderman joining the Avengers? all of these are just long shots, Marvel/Star Wars will of course never happen, it wouldn't make sense, DC vs Marvel would be amazing to see on the big screen, but again it just wont happen sadly, (although I bet Diesel could pull off Access) the last two are the more likely to happen if anything with Spiderman probably a lot more likely than X-Men, but these are all long shots and he said its LIKE the merging of brands, not that it really is merging brands, Marvel really is thinking big picture though and I can't wait to get a little more info on what will be coming in the future...and what exactly Vin means
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3:43PM on 09/09/2013
Could the word "brand" be a bit of a misnomer, and maybe refer to Marvel and Fox reconciling or teaming up?
Could the word "brand" be a bit of a misnomer, and maybe refer to Marvel and Fox reconciling or teaming up?
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4:50PM on 09/09/2013
God I hope so!
God I hope so!
3:40PM on 09/09/2013
Merging of brands? I'm guessing a Marvel Knights/Heroes for Hire kind of thing. Rather than a origin or a team up, its a lived in word
Merging of brands? I'm guessing a Marvel Knights/Heroes for Hire kind of thing. Rather than a origin or a team up, its a lived in word
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