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03.27.2017
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This week will be a good one for Spider-Man fans, I think. On Friday we got some neat new posters, and today a new teaser, with a full trailer tomorrow. But we know the Wall-Crawler (Tom Holland) pretty well, and who fans want to know more about is Michael Keaton’s villain, Vulture. Director of SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING Jon Watts recently dished-out a bevy of details about the baddie, painting him as a normal guy with an itch to scratch.

Speaking with USA Today, Watts spoke about Vulture, real name Adrian Toomes, saying he’s just a “regular joe”:

My whole approach for this movie is that we’ve seen the penthouse level of the [Marvel] universe. We’ve seen what it’s like to be a billionaire inventor and to be a Norse god. We’ve seen the very top of this world. But we’ve never seen what it’s like to be just a regular joe.

As a “joe” Toomes has a day job, which involves owning a company that cleans up the wreckage after the heroes destroy everything in sight. However, Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) decides to take over this enterprise and make it a government matter. Toomes doesn’t like that one bit, and begins to salvage alien wreckage to sell to other criminals. With the help of friends Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine) and Tinkerer (Michael Chernus), Toomes aims to get back at the iron-clad hero…which in a way turns him into a “dark Tony Stark” himself, according to co-producer Eric Hauserman Carroll:

He thinks once he has this money and power, he'll have more control of his life.

Keaton himself spoke about the role, describing him as a kind of everyman who has the same kind of gripes some working-class folks may have today:

Some people see themselves as victims — he sees himself a little bit like that.  He probably would have a strong argument that he never got a fair shot — a lot of ‘Why not me? Where’s mine?’

The character of Vulture has a long-standing presence in the comics, and though there is a lot of lore to draw from Watts got his inspiration for the character from an unlikely source – John C. Reilly in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. Watts wanted that “ground-level perspective” from a normal guy saying:

I like the idea that in these huge movies, you pick out one extra and you’re like, ‘What does he think of all this?’ Sometimes these movies are so casual about just destroying whole cities and incredible things happen and everyone’s like, ‘Eh, whatever.’ If that really happened, it would be amazing and change everything.

I like the approach of Vulture from Watts and Keaton, turning him into a disgruntled blue-collar worker. I think it will prove a great contrast to Spidey/Parker, who himself is just an average teen who happens to have superpowers. This treatment of them as two normal people reminds me a bit of the Stark/Obadiah Stane (Jeff Bridges) angle from IRON MAN. How these character dynamics work will be interesting to watch come the movie's release, that and seeing if they make some sort of BATMAN reference. Just make Holland say, "Let's get nuts."

SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING arrives July 7.

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Source: USA Today

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8:47AM on 03/28/2017
So he was basically the boss of Damage Control. Which makes me wonder if this will ever lead up to the long in development (hell) Damage Control TV series.
So he was basically the boss of Damage Control. Which makes me wonder if this will ever lead up to the long in development (hell) Damage Control TV series.
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6:37PM on 03/27/2017
Just hoping that Keaton isn't just a one and done villain and actually has an expanded role going forward at least in Spider Man's part of the MCU; would love to see him be apart of the Sinister Six if that's what Marvel is going for in the next sequel or two.

And I like the idea of a 'regular joe' being fed up and taking matters into his own villainous hands.
Just hoping that Keaton isn't just a one and done villain and actually has an expanded role going forward at least in Spider Man's part of the MCU; would love to see him be apart of the Sinister Six if that's what Marvel is going for in the next sequel or two.

And I like the idea of a 'regular joe' being fed up and taking matters into his own villainous hands.
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6:24PM on 03/27/2017

Fantastic

Every thing i read sounded fantastic to me , this will be another marvel hit.
Every thing i read sounded fantastic to me , this will be another marvel hit.
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3:58PM on 03/27/2017

meh...total crap...not worth your time

Not excited. Director sucks. Keaton is a has-been. Spiderman has been overdone and overdone. This looks absolutely horrible!!! Just horrible. I'm pretty sure, based on the seconds of viewing torture I've had of a poster and a teaser, I can determine that this movie will be the worst thing to hit screens since Xanadu. Watch as I use my powers of observation to troll the shit out of this movie for absolutely no reason other than to waste time in between some D&D, a bologna sandwich prepared by
Not excited. Director sucks. Keaton is a has-been. Spiderman has been overdone and overdone. This looks absolutely horrible!!! Just horrible. I'm pretty sure, based on the seconds of viewing torture I've had of a poster and a teaser, I can determine that this movie will be the worst thing to hit screens since Xanadu. Watch as I use my powers of observation to troll the shit out of this movie for absolutely no reason other than to waste time in between some D&D, a bologna sandwich prepared by mommy of course, and I have to finish my Lego Death Star. .....
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12:31PM on 03/28/2017
Sounds like you've been burnt by all the shitty DC movies. Luckily this is Marvel, and they built a franchise on quality.
Sounds like you've been burnt by all the shitty DC movies. Luckily this is Marvel, and they built a franchise on quality.
12:08PM on 03/27/2017
I would argue that Netflix has given us plenty of Regular Joe situations (I rather wish Spider-Man was a more toned-down Netflix show, I so associate him with New York City). That said, every other Spider-Man has gone the other direction with their villains (and my favorite Marvel villains have actually been Obadiah Stane and Alexander Pierce, because regular guys going bad is scarier to me than sorcerers and aliens destroying the world).
I would argue that Netflix has given us plenty of Regular Joe situations (I rather wish Spider-Man was a more toned-down Netflix show, I so associate him with New York City). That said, every other Spider-Man has gone the other direction with their villains (and my favorite Marvel villains have actually been Obadiah Stane and Alexander Pierce, because regular guys going bad is scarier to me than sorcerers and aliens destroying the world).
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12:33PM on 03/27/2017
Wait, Otto Octavias being an inventor and a happily married, upstanding citizen gone psycho was "the other way"?
Wait, Otto Octavias being an inventor and a happily married, upstanding citizen gone psycho was "the other way"?
11:55AM on 03/27/2017

Hopeful

Very hopeful he brings a level of intensity as a marvel villain that most of the movies lack. Keaton is a bad ass actor, so if anyone can do it, it would be him.
Very hopeful he brings a level of intensity as a marvel villain that most of the movies lack. Keaton is a bad ass actor, so if anyone can do it, it would be him.
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3:54PM on 03/27/2017
I'm pretty sure, based on the 3 or 4 seconds of screentime I've seen, that this movie will suck so hard. I'm pretty sure I can judge the rest of this entire franchise on the director, glossy visuals, and bull shit banter between characters. Yup. This movie is utter crap. I know. I watched the teaser.
I'm pretty sure, based on the 3 or 4 seconds of screentime I've seen, that this movie will suck so hard. I'm pretty sure I can judge the rest of this entire franchise on the director, glossy visuals, and bull shit banter between characters. Yup. This movie is utter crap. I know. I watched the teaser.
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