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Ratner talks Batman Sep. 24, 2008
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Source: MTV


If you didn't already love Brett Ratner and his canon of vanguard cinema classics then get ready to now. As per usual, he was talking about projects he would like to do, this time with his focus on Batman-related spin-offs.

"As a kid, Batman was my thing... I’m a little jealous that I didn’t get to direct it, although Nolan did a great job. But there are so many characters in the Batman series, so many characters that I love, that the opportunities for spin-offs are endless.”

Ratner thinks that the first one should be a film just about the Joker, exploring his (possible) origin as the Red Hood. “That would be really cool... Heath was great... But the Joker is a great villain. That’s why Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger had so much to work with. And I think there will be another actor who can interpret that. It would be great to see [Robert] Downey [Jr.] as the Joker, for instance.”


Of course the up-side to what he's saying is that ponies will inherit the Earth before any of this shit ever happens.

Extra Tidbit: I just glanced at Ratner's birthday and for a split-second mistook it for the same day as mine. I know that means absolutely nothing, but even that tenuous connection scared the life out of me.

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RATNER < TURD
NO_FUN
11:35AM on 09/26/2008
All those not bashing Ratner, did you not see X men 3?
All those not bashing Ratner, did you not see X men 3?
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Why?
at528
12:04AM on 09/26/2008
Is he serious? First off, I LOVE The Batman and particularly The Joker. I can't really express how much I love the character. A couple years back I ran around a foreign country dressed as Joker on Halloween... And thi...
Is he serious? First off, I LOVE The Batman and particularly The Joker. I can't really express how much I love the character. A couple years back I ran around a foreign country dressed as Joker on Halloween... And this was an Eastern European country that doesn't do Halloween. My friends went with less crazy costumes. I hit up clubs in green hair and white skin...

That being said, this is a horrid idea. One of the charms of the character is that there are so many origins that no single one can be excepted as truth. TDK handled it perfectly—this would suck...
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RED DRAGON
Maudibe
9:27PM on 09/25/2008
Fuck that...another franchise he destroyed along with X-Men.
Fuck that...another franchise he destroyed along with X-Men.
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WalterKovacs
6:06PM on 09/25/2008
Like most, I'm not a Ratner fan, although I did like RED DRAGON which I feel is underrated.
Like most, I'm not a Ratner fan, although I did like RED DRAGON which I feel is underrated.
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Green so you read it. Not because I'm hip. I'm not.
AlteredEffect
4:12PM on 09/25/2008
WTF? Stop bashing the guy. At least he has the resources to make a bloody film. He had to of done something right along the line.

Stop being so negative. It's lame.
WTF? Stop bashing the guy. At least he has the resources to make a bloody film. He had to of done something right along the line.

Stop being so negative. It's lame.
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snoopmish
12:20PM on 09/25/2008
Guys guys guys! This probably will not happen anyway. AND it could be worse...Uwe Boll could be saying these things.
Guys guys guys! This probably will not happen anyway. AND it could be worse...Uwe Boll could be saying these things.
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There could be something...
draven_ftw
5:03AM on 09/25/2008
Not jumping on the Ratner Bashing Wagon. The idea of a joker movie could be good, if done right. If the movie was done based on the graphic novel of The Killing Joke. I'm not too knowing of the exact title(feel free t...
Not jumping on the Ratner Bashing Wagon. The idea of a joker movie could be good, if done right. If the movie was done based on the graphic novel of The Killing Joke. I'm not too knowing of the exact title(feel free to correct me if I am wrong)That would be a perfect orgin story for the Joker. Like I said above, as long as its in the right hands.
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Read this Ratner...
Maudibe
4:13AM on 09/25/2008
I wouldn't let you direct me taking a shit you loser.

You're garbage. Remember that.

Just because you mentioned Nolan, Batman, Ledger, and Downey JR. DOESN'T mean you're anywhere near the...
I wouldn't let you direct me taking a shit you loser.

You're garbage. Remember that.

Just because you mentioned Nolan, Batman, Ledger, and Downey JR. DOESN'T mean you're anywhere near the caliber for this.

Everything you touch turns to shit.

This is my second post on this thread about you, hours apart, because I hate your work so much you asshole.

Don't try to be all scene and put your 2 cents in on the highest grossing movie this year, the second highest of all time, and the best movie this year, like you KNOW SHIT about it.

Fucking little jerk-off.

You're nothing.
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WHY THE F*CK IS THIS GUY EVERYWHERE??!
Arvindh
3:55AM on 09/25/2008
There are some people that I just don't wanna see...ever! I don't wanna' read about them, know about them, or look at their f*ckin' faces. Bret Ratner is one of them and probably at the top of that list, but for some ...
There are some people that I just don't wanna see...ever! I don't wanna' read about them, know about them, or look at their f*ckin' faces. Bret Ratner is one of them and probably at the top of that list, but for some reason there's always news about this douchebag that's related to something that I absolutely adore...like Batman and TDK for instance! Earlier on he was connected to the God Of War movie...which happens to be my all-time fave videogame. He f*cked' X-Men up the @$$ and now Batman?! C'mon! Someone lock this f*cknut up in a cage and keep him underground for Hollywood's sake! A Joker spinoff? Is he f*ckin' insane? ARGH I hate this person so, so much!
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Langston33
1:17AM on 09/25/2008
This guy has to be on Coccaine? He needs to take a big step back and fuck his face or I will fuckstart his head!
This guy has to be on Coccaine? He needs to take a big step back and fuck his face or I will fuckstart his head!
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PuffCity
12:54AM on 09/25/2008
people need to calm the fuck down with the Ratner hate. he makes decent sometimes enjoyable movies. theres alot worst there and some who are considered better that are worst.
people need to calm the fuck down with the Ratner hate. he makes decent sometimes enjoyable movies. theres alot worst there and some who are considered better that are worst.
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Jack Grimaldi
10:37PM on 09/24/2008
I agree with exactly what everyone else said, from the red outline all the way to the "fuck ratner".
I agree with exactly what everyone else said, from the red outline all the way to the "fuck ratner".
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Vnqshr
9:58PM on 09/24/2008
UGH!
Ratner is annoying. And just because Downey Jr. is awesome, doesn't mean he's perfect for every role!
Now Crispin Glover I could get on board with. Or even Nicholas Brendon (Xander from Buffy). Eve...
UGH!
Ratner is annoying. And just because Downey Jr. is awesome, doesn't mean he's perfect for every role!
Now Crispin Glover I could get on board with. Or even Nicholas Brendon (Xander from Buffy). Everytime I see him smile on Buffy I think he'd possibly be perfect for the Joker.
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Big Hurt
9:30PM on 09/24/2008
Keep Ratner away from this series, please!
Keep Ratner away from this series, please!
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Absolutely not
StarDestroyer
8:35PM on 09/24/2008
We all know what happened when someone with little no knowledge or interest in the source material signed on to direct movies about Batman. "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" happened.

Just as Joel...
We all know what happened when someone with little no knowledge or interest in the source material signed on to direct movies about Batman. "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" happened.

Just as Joel Schumacher was the worst thing to ever happen to the franchise let's not taint it furthermore by allowing sub-par talent to make anything remotely related to it. "Begins" and "Dark Knight" restored Batman to its long overdue glory so let's just leave it at that.

Downey Jr is great but he just would not fit into that role.
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philalva77
7:22PM on 09/24/2008
ya sure Ratner seems to talk alot of shit about all these dream projects..people forget he was contractually obligated to deliver X3 out of nowhere..so ya like some other person said you blame the studio which to no s...
ya sure Ratner seems to talk alot of shit about all these dream projects..people forget he was contractually obligated to deliver X3 out of nowhere..so ya like some other person said you blame the studio which to no surprise is Fox..the guy will only be known as making 3 Rush Hour films & im surprised he hasnt said he made Jackie Chan a star in the US..lol now dat would be a joke.
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Welll....
predator_silver
7:13PM on 09/24/2008
It seems that you guys at joblo are sitting around a coffee table thinking what more can we write about Brett Ratner. Lets write stories about movies this man can get ahold of and rune lol.
It seems that you guys at joblo are sitting around a coffee table thinking what more can we write about Brett Ratner. Lets write stories about movies this man can get ahold of and rune lol.
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Not A Hater
The Minn
7:12PM on 09/24/2008
I am one of the few to disagree. I blame Tom Rothman for X3. Even Matthew Vaughn leaving (don't get me wrong i love the man). There was not enough time for X3 in my opinion; it was rushed. For the limited time he had ...
I am one of the few to disagree. I blame Tom Rothman for X3. Even Matthew Vaughn leaving (don't get me wrong i love the man). There was not enough time for X3 in my opinion; it was rushed. For the limited time he had he did the best he could. I blame the studios. Or the parents...you choose.
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drc5145
6:49PM on 09/24/2008
FUCK. NO.

This is the fool who did Rush Hours 1-3, squandred great potential in Red Dragon (it was ok at best) and royally screwed up X3. Not to mention he actually thought A Guitar Hero Movie was a goo...
FUCK. NO.

This is the fool who did Rush Hours 1-3, squandred great potential in Red Dragon (it was ok at best) and royally screwed up X3. Not to mention he actually thought A Guitar Hero Movie was a good idea.

STAY AWAY FROM BATMAN YOU FOOL.

P.S. I like Downey Jr. but I can't see that happening...though someone like Crispin Glover is another story...
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John_Cusack
6:24PM on 09/24/2008
Why is everyone hating on Robert Downey Jr just because ratner mentioned him in his stupid quote.

Ratner is a less than average director because he ruined one of my favorite franchises (i.e. X-Men) and ...
Why is everyone hating on Robert Downey Jr just because ratner mentioned him in his stupid quote.

Ratner is a less than average director because he ruined one of my favorite franchises (i.e. X-Men) and the only reason I enjoyed Red Dragon was because of Edward Norton and the only reason I enjoyed Rush Hour 1/2/3 was because of the funny chemistry between Tucker and Chan.

So stop hating on Robert Downey Jr being mentioned because in all seriousness his career is on fire right now and deserves all the credit he is getting.

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SURFNINJA
Call me Indiana
6:23PM on 09/24/2008
I worked as an extra on RUSH HOUR 3, and at one point during the day Ratner took the microphone (it was the opening scene with all the people protesting so there were a lot of extras) and he singled out this one guy. ...
I worked as an extra on RUSH HOUR 3, and at one point during the day Ratner took the microphone (it was the opening scene with all the people protesting so there were a lot of extras) and he singled out this one guy. He didn't give him any direction, he just made fun of him. I don't know why.

That is why I don't like Brett Ratner. And he destroyed Bryan Singers great work with X-MEN 3. Sure, not all his movies are INCREDIBLY bad, but they're not all INCREDIBLY good either. RED DRAGON, in my opinion, is a decent film because of Anthony Hopkins, Edward Norton, and Ralph Fiennes.
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anomaly7
5:30PM on 09/24/2008
Somewhere Ledger is rolling in his grave.
Somewhere Ledger is rolling in his grave.
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SurfNinja
5:09PM on 09/24/2008
I'm kind of sick of people bandwagon-hating on Brett Ratner. Sure he put the X-Men film franchise in the shitter, and has made a number of middling films, but Rush Hour 1? For its time? Not a bad film. Red Dragon?...
I'm kind of sick of people bandwagon-hating on Brett Ratner. Sure he put the X-Men film franchise in the shitter, and has made a number of middling films, but Rush Hour 1? For its time? Not a bad film. Red Dragon? Actually a pretty decent film. Cut the guy *some* slack. You're treating him like he's Uwe Boll or something.

But I agree, no one should let the guy near Batman.
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leeloo hi peepl
5:03PM on 09/24/2008
i read that headline and i think my heart it stopped.

i read that headline and i think my heart it stopped.

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Ocelot_Snake
4:27PM on 09/24/2008
YES!!! lets get movies like these made. lets get movies adapted from graphic novels like arkham asylum to be made along side, but a different history, nolans movies. im tired of waiting 3 years in between movies....Ju...
YES!!! lets get movies like these made. lets get movies adapted from graphic novels like arkham asylum to be made along side, but a different history, nolans movies. im tired of waiting 3 years in between movies....Just as long as BRETT FUCKING RATNER doesnt direct. hes not completely terrible (IMO) but hes not greatness i want associated with batman. id love to see del toro direct the movie based off arkham asylum
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good one Pretony.
unitedvisions
4:11PM on 09/24/2008
James Thoo, do you have any idea how much that title freaked me out? Do you? For a moment I thought Ratner might be taking over for Nolan and I was scared.
James Thoo, do you have any idea how much that title freaked me out? Do you? For a moment I thought Ratner might be taking over for Nolan and I was scared.
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pretony
3:53PM on 09/24/2008
I'm not hip to this news. I just wanted to see a little green. haahaha
I'm not hip to this news. I just wanted to see a little green. haahaha
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This piece of shit...
Maudibe
3:42PM on 09/24/2008
I love that this piece of shit is jealous of nolan b/c he didn't get to direct the new batman films.

in all seriousness, i highly doubt this fat-fuck's name came up in the mix when time came to find a d...
I love that this piece of shit is jealous of nolan b/c he didn't get to direct the new batman films.

in all seriousness, i highly doubt this fat-fuck's name came up in the mix when time came to find a director.

i hate ratner, i hate when he speaks, i hate how fucking connected he thinks he is, how creative he thinks he is with all this joker spin off bullshit...and i hate that he's picking the obvious robert downey jr, to play the joker in his little fantasy world...such an unoriginal guy, uncreative guy...the king of all hacks...

ratner gives directors a bad name, he really does...he's the pinnacle of sub par to mediocre studio filmmakers working today.



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Brett assner...
X-KID
3:17PM on 09/24/2008
...seems like everytime Brett talks, breathes or directs something it always turns in to shit! so everything he just said in that interview is a big pile of BULL...
...seems like everytime Brett talks, breathes or directs something it always turns in to shit! so everything he just said in that interview is a big pile of BULL...
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GioFace
3:17PM on 09/24/2008
this guy thinks way too much of himself. if it wasn't for jackie chan, rush hour would suck. and dropping robert downey jr.'s name? thats so dumb, he just mentioned he wish he could direct a popular franchise, so he d...
this guy thinks way too much of himself. if it wasn't for jackie chan, rush hour would suck. and dropping robert downey jr.'s name? thats so dumb, he just mentioned he wish he could direct a popular franchise, so he drops the name of one of the more popular actors today. this is like him saying he would like to make a new spiderman movie starring brad pitt. he just wants attention
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beatrixkiddo
3:09PM on 09/24/2008
brett ratner ruins peoples lives.
brett ratner ruins peoples lives.
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Call me Indiana
3:07PM on 09/24/2008
Brett Ratner is a tool.

Heath Ledger is The Joker. Case closed.
Brett Ratner is a tool.

Heath Ledger is The Joker. Case closed.
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If they let Ratner anywhere near Batman
h
2:56PM on 09/24/2008
I
will
fucking
explode.
I
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fucking
explode.
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porkchopexpress
2:43PM on 09/24/2008
I wish Brett Ratner would just take a pole, ram it slowly and carefully into his anus, keep pushing until there is no pole left to push then lie down in his study and wait to die
I wish Brett Ratner would just take a pole, ram it slowly and carefully into his anus, keep pushing until there is no pole left to push then lie down in his study and wait to die
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Stratburst
2:27PM on 09/24/2008
Relax, guys. WB executives would offer their first-born to ensure that Christopher Nolan stays on Batman.

That said, if there's anyone who could do the Joker justice, it would be Mark Hamill. Sure, he...
Relax, guys. WB executives would offer their first-born to ensure that Christopher Nolan stays on Batman.

That said, if there's anyone who could do the Joker justice, it would be Mark Hamill. Sure, he's much older than Heath Ledger, but no one can argue that he doesn't have the character nailed.
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Snowboy
2:20PM on 09/24/2008
No.

No no no no no no NO.

I swear, when he talks, it's like listening to a 5-year-old talk about what he wants to be when he grows up.
No.

No no no no no no NO.

I swear, when he talks, it's like listening to a 5-year-old talk about what he wants to be when he grows up.
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rgartland
2:07PM on 09/24/2008
O
O
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also
mrblonde549
2:04PM on 09/24/2008
Is Ratner the only loser director in Hollywood that spends more time talking about what he'd LIKE to direct than working on projects he's actually offered?
Is Ratner the only loser director in Hollywood that spends more time talking about what he'd LIKE to direct than working on projects he's actually offered?
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How About No
SpongeMike182
1:56PM on 09/24/2008
He screwed up x3. Why trust him with Batman. Stick to Rush Hour 4, Brett.
He screwed up x3. Why trust him with Batman. Stick to Rush Hour 4, Brett.
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dreamfall
1:55PM on 09/24/2008
I'm pretty sure this guy isn't allowed to have an say on anything, especially anything retaining to Batman.
I'm pretty sure this guy isn't allowed to have an say on anything, especially anything retaining to Batman.
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RAAAAAGE
tsukasa13
1:55PM on 09/24/2008
Get OUT of here, you Devil!!!!

Seriouly. No. Fuck off. Nolan is miles and miles above Ratner. And no one can do the joker justice now, at least not for another 20 years. Let it go. Go do your own shit N...
Get OUT of here, you Devil!!!!

Seriouly. No. Fuck off. Nolan is miles and miles above Ratner. And no one can do the joker justice now, at least not for another 20 years. Let it go. Go do your own shit Name dropping RDJ isn't helping any. Just. Go.
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Brer B8a
1:49PM on 09/24/2008
I said "Thanks, but no thanks on that movie to nowere."
I said "Thanks, but no thanks on that movie to nowere."
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The words cannot express
darko187
1:38PM on 09/24/2008
How dumb this ideal is.
How dumb this ideal is.
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SUCK
mrblonde549
1:13PM on 09/24/2008
Maybe Ratner can just put the joker in his next Miley Cyrus music video, or maybe he could just get Miley to dress up as the joker herself, or maybe Ratner should just build a time machine and get his past self to sto...
Maybe Ratner can just put the joker in his next Miley Cyrus music video, or maybe he could just get Miley to dress up as the joker herself, or maybe Ratner should just build a time machine and get his past self to stop at Red Dragon so that his legacy would not have included the likes of X3 and Rush Hour 3.
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Casino Style
FNDanny
1:06PM on 09/24/2008
I would like to direct a movie in which Brett Ratner gets beat down like Joe Pesci in Casino and buried alive.
I would like to direct a movie in which Brett Ratner gets beat down like Joe Pesci in Casino and buried alive.
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writer19
12:54PM on 09/24/2008
i could say how much i hate the Rat... but what's the fuckin use anymore
i could say how much i hate the Rat... but what's the fuckin use anymore
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I dont know
cricker
12:54PM on 09/24/2008
I like the idea of a spin-off but i sometimes think he gets a lot of grief for X3 which went through 3 directors before it came to him (that is a sign of what was to come) so that meant already it wouldnt be great. al...
I like the idea of a spin-off but i sometimes think he gets a lot of grief for X3 which went through 3 directors before it came to him (that is a sign of what was to come) so that meant already it wouldnt be great. also red Dragon was pretty good and Ruch Hours were fun. So I dont think he is terrible.
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C'mon.
dseiden5
12:51PM on 09/24/2008
Why again with all the Ratner hate? I think he's proven that he has talent and he's done so with a wide variety of projects. X3 was visually stunning, but it was the script that brought it down a few notches. Red Drag...
Why again with all the Ratner hate? I think he's proven that he has talent and he's done so with a wide variety of projects. X3 was visually stunning, but it was the script that brought it down a few notches. Red Dragon: brilliant. Family Man was really good. And anyone who can keep Chris Tucker under control gets my respect. So I'm always willing to hear what he has to say about his dream projects. Sure, he's got a big ego, but he has talent to back it up, unlike Uwe Boll.
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mutant_gorilla
12:47PM on 09/24/2008
Ratner needs to shut up forever.
He's better off directing a Care Bears movie. This news ruined my day.
Ratner needs to shut up forever.
He's better off directing a Care Bears movie. This news ruined my day.
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Raoul Duke
12:45PM on 09/24/2008
Someone please beat this man with a shovel.
Someone please beat this man with a shovel.
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spacemonkey
12:41PM on 09/24/2008
Rattners just seeing if he can get the gig himself. Puh lease. He better not even get close to this franchise. Not even close.

And this bullshit about Batman being his thing...yeah right, it reeks of b...
Rattners just seeing if he can get the gig himself. Puh lease. He better not even get close to this franchise. Not even close.

And this bullshit about Batman being his thing...yeah right, it reeks of bullshit! He probably doesnt know the first thing about batman!

I smell desperation in his comments.
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No means no!!!
studboi69
12:34PM on 09/24/2008
Rattner is like that ignorant 12-year-old who keeps coming up with these stupid ideas and dropping names, because it'd be "cool" and "awesome" to his 12-year-old mind. His idea of a better Batman movie would be a Batm...
Rattner is like that ignorant 12-year-old who keeps coming up with these stupid ideas and dropping names, because it'd be "cool" and "awesome" to his 12-year-old mind. His idea of a better Batman movie would be a Batman who owns a 1000-foot-tall Bat-Mech that shoots lasers and teleports(because it's "awesome") and it would star Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Jason Statham, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Cruise (because they all "kick ass").
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Hunglowman
12:33PM on 09/24/2008
Brett Ratner is the James Thoo of cinema
Brett Ratner is the James Thoo of cinema
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WTF?
RoneStar
12:29PM on 09/24/2008
Ratner likes to put his name in the same circle as many popular properties.

Last time it was Superman.

Although I sometimes enjoy the RUSH HOUR flicks, and am able to tolerate X-MEN 3 wit...
Ratner likes to put his name in the same circle as many popular properties.

Last time it was Superman.

Although I sometimes enjoy the RUSH HOUR flicks, and am able to tolerate X-MEN 3 without wanting to do the disappearing pencil trick, what has he really done to warrant Batman?

RED DRAGON. His best film. It was moody, dark, and menacing - and you somehow felt for The Tooth Fairy in the end... which is a good template for what he's thinking for his JOKER dream.

However, I'm strongly leaning towards that thinking that RED DRAGON was a once in a lifetime fluke - more a sum of the talent he hired perhaps.

Oh... and WTF? Downey Jr.? What kind of paint thinner was he huffing?!?! Downey doesn't have the psychosis for the Joker.
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Ayestrain
12:29PM on 09/24/2008
Laughable.
Laughable.
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SeymourClearly
12:21PM on 09/24/2008
He is a mindless tool!!

Fuck Ratner and his lame ideas!!
He is a mindless tool!!

Fuck Ratner and his lame ideas!!
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Dark Knight
12:07PM on 09/24/2008
... I almost got heart attack just seeing the title of the article. And his "ideas" ... Keep him away from comic book adaptations, forever.
... I almost got heart attack just seeing the title of the article. And his "ideas" ... Keep him away from comic book adaptations, forever.
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ratner is a douche
timbo7182
11:57AM on 09/24/2008
ratner needs to stick to directing movies and stop talking about movies he thinks would be cool, because every idea he has spurted out sounds terrible. the mystery of the joker needs to remain just that...a mystery. a...
ratner needs to stick to directing movies and stop talking about movies he thinks would be cool, because every idea he has spurted out sounds terrible. the mystery of the joker needs to remain just that...a mystery. and whats with the robert downey jr bandwagon all of a sudden. i like robert downey, but lets keep in minds - HE'S OVER THE HILL. action movies arent going to be his thing without heavy cgi.
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blech
krunksnotdead
11:55AM on 09/24/2008
Ratner should stay the fuck away from batman and all it's characters. All he'd do is taint Dark Knight like he did X2 with that piece of shit X3. Fuck Brett Ratner.
Ratner should stay the fuck away from batman and all it's characters. All he'd do is taint Dark Knight like he did X2 with that piece of shit X3. Fuck Brett Ratner.
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