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Face-Off: Batman Begins vs. The Dark Knight

07.19.2012by: Paul Huffman
In last weeks Face Off, COMIC CON being in full swing we showed some love to the wonderful word of fandom with a showdown between Fanboys and Fangirls. A match that Fanboys won by a hare. Congratulations men.

Tonight, the final installment in Christopher Nolan's already legendary take on the Batman character unleashes itself upon the world. It seems only natural we dedicate the Face Off this week to the previous two entries Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I'm excited because I know opinions will be varied, Batman Begins has been universally praised for knocking a superheroes origin story out of the park like never before. On the other side of the coin, many feel The Dark Knight lives up to most of its hype, while some have been known to deem it overrated thanks to Heath Ledger's turn as The Joker. Where do you stand? Let's find out.
Story
Here is a backstory we've gotten glimpses of many times before, but never with the care and the detail and in a manner this realistic. It was great to see flashbacks to Bruce Wayne's struggle to find an identity as a young man leading up to Joe Chill's trial and where that led him. I love the theme of fear in this film, it's what drove the whole story all the way from Bruce's training to his show downs with Scarecrow. Long story short this film holds its own against its sequel for the brilliant character development alone. Batman in action was always almost secondary in this case.
Batman must battle to maintain practicing everything he's grown to believe when a clown comes along who is intent on 'watching the world burn' and bringing everything crashing down around the caped crusader. And damn does he just about succeed. There is character development here, but with a lot more players involved. Less time is focused on Batman/Bruce but all the other characters are so compelling that I went with it. Chaos is the theme here, and this movie delivers it in spades. I loved the elements from the graphic novel The Killing Joke that were brought to the table here.
Batsy/Bruce Wayne
After witnessing the death of his parents as a child, Bruce Wayne grows up having to do his best to grapple with his fear and his anger, until the right person comes along and trains him to confront it. We get so many versions of the character here which I loved...the Bruce Wayne who finds himself and his purpose through his training, the billionaire playboy facade that Bruce adopts which provides us with a few comedic elements, and finally the bad ass with the cape. Multi-dimensional much? Also, an extra added bonus is that the caped crusaders growl wasn't yet in full effect here.
We get two great elements to the characters of Bruce Wayne and Batman here, on the Bruce Wayne front it's enthralling to see Bruce's desire to cease being the caped crusader and move on, while at the same time developing this man crush on our white knight Harvey Dent. As far as Batman is concerned it was awesome seeing his anger build over the madness that Joker was up to and seeing it in his eyes that he was so close scene after scene to 'breaking his one rule'...and seeing Bruce Wayne himself observing the Joker from afar as well and struggling to understand him. Alfred's take on the crazy bastard made for an awesome scene.
Villains
Scarecrow was a complete badass for most of the film, there really scored with the casting of Cillian Murphy and his portrayal really lived up to what the character was all about. Tom Wilkinson's turn as Falcone was actually one of my favorite aspects of the film, the man always gives a great performance and quite frankly he was given some of the best lines in the film. The scene between him and Bruce in the restaurant was brilliant writing. Ra's Al Ghul was effective for the screen time that he had, I felt we didn't get enough of him and Scarecrow was kind of thrown away to make way for that climax. Not a big complaint.
What can be said about Heath Ledger as The Joker that has not already been said? The performance was brilliant, unhinged, and horrifying, Ledger disappeared and only The Joker remained. His activities were great to watch, and his speeches were uncomfortable in the respect that you sat there thinking to yourself that he has a point with some of this. The only thing I could say about Two Face is that I feel the same way about him as I did about Ra's, I wanted more but when we got him he owned every scene he was in. I love the descent of a once decent man, makes for great drama.
Rachel Dawes
I actually dug Katie Holmes in the role of Rachel and that she was pretty damn strong character in Batman Begins. I always thought Katie Holmes was nice to look at so that certainly didn't do anything to hurt her case. I think the Rachel's shining moment in this film was her 'the great depression hasn't disappeared' speech and her ownage of Bruce with those slaps. The idealism of the character really shined through. Bravo Katie, wish you would have came back. Although...
Rachel Dawes sort of grated on my nerves in The Dark Knight, am I alone in thinking her bitchiness to Bruce for most of her screen time was a bit unjustified? Did we forget about the man saving your life from death by poison in the previous film? Their most tender moment was after Batsy saved her from her free fall thanks to the clown. Maggie Gyllenhaal did not do bad, and the character wasn't a total bitch...but I think I would have been more emotionally invested if the character would have been written the same way she was in Begins and if Katie Holmes had returned. But to be fair, they had a lot more to get through this time around.
Box Office/Critical Reception
Batman Begins has an 85% approval rating with critics praising it's focus on the psychological aspect of the story rather than countless elaborate action scenes. Roger Ebert dubbed the film not only the Batman movie he was looking for, but the Batman film he didn't know he was looking for. Tim Burton has also given the films his stamp of approval, praising their gritty style. World wide the film has grossed a total of $372,710,015 making it the third highest grossing Batman film behind Tim Burton's first Batman and of course The Dark Knight.
The Dark Knight has a 94% approval rating from critics and a worldwide gross of $1,001,921,825. That said, it has the distinct honor of being the 12th highest grossing film of all time. Critics went above and beyond to praise Heath Ledger's performance as The Joker and continued to praise the films gritty realistic setting. The rest of the cast received some love as well particularly Aaron Eckhart's turn as Harvey Dent. TDK ranks 15 on Empire's 500 Greatest Movies List for 2008. Roger Ebert nails my opinion perfectly by stating the film is a "haunted film that leaps beyond its origins and becomes an engrossing tragedy."
Final Word
Batman Begins is the most brilliant introduction to a superhero in film that we've ever seen and likely will ever see. It took it's time, gave us all the character development we needed, and it made us all that more invested by the time Batman came to cause a ruckus. The theme of Fear and conquering it hit home, it's pretty damn inspiring. Some love should be given to our introduction to Hans Zimmer's collaboration with James Newton Howard for the breathtaking score. Begins will always be known for the being the film that resurrected Batman on the big screen and for that it will always hold a special place in my Batsy loving heart.
Dark Knight is the Godfather II of comic-book films plain and simple. Further evolution of the Batman we grew to love in Begins and characters like Jim Gordon, to the portrayal of one of the greatest villains of all time. Everything was on a grander scale, and I was so enthralled the long run time always seems to fly by to me with every viewing. There is a tragedy surrounding this film with the death of Heath Ledger and some have said that added to the hype of the film and some say it wasn't quite deserved, I don't agree with that in the least and I found the battle between good and evil on steroids story this film carried makes The Dark Knight a genuine classic.
The Dark Knight
So there you have it folks. As much as I truly love Batman Begins for its wonderful character development and focus on the psyche of Batman, when it comes down to it all the elements that The Dark Knight came to the table with just knocked my socks off. The theme of chaos, Batman's struggle to hold on to what he believes, the more compelling villains, the new gadgets, Joker's eerie soundtrack theme. Both films were magic, and Nolan's final installment I think will cap off the greatness this franchise has provided us with beautifully.

If you have an idea that you'd like to see in a future FACE OFF column, feel free to shoot an email to me at paulhuffman@joblo.com with your ideas and some ideas for the critique to base your ideas off. Thank you and in the meantime...

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8:43PM on 07/19/2012
I gave both movies a 9/10 when they were released and I still have a difficult time deciding which I like more. I agree with every one of your points above, so well stated. I'll go with The Dark Knight in that I think Heath Ledger as the Joker and the Joker character himself vaults this movie ahead of its predecessor. The Joker was already one of the greatest villains in popular culture, but this character made him a symbol and an icon.

So my vote goes to TDK.
I gave both movies a 9/10 when they were released and I still have a difficult time deciding which I like more. I agree with every one of your points above, so well stated. I'll go with The Dark Knight in that I think Heath Ledger as the Joker and the Joker character himself vaults this movie ahead of its predecessor. The Joker was already one of the greatest villains in popular culture, but this character made him a symbol and an icon.

So my vote goes to TDK.
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8:18PM on 07/19/2012
Begins is a better movie in my opinion.
Begins is a better movie in my opinion.
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1:50PM on 07/19/2012

As a "Batman" movie: its BATMAN BEGINS, But as a Crime Saga/Thriller its TDK

Its very simple, thematically and structurally both movies are very different from each other. If you are a Batman fan from the comics and other materials you'd LOVE BATMAN BEGINS. I wasn't very big Bat-fan to begin with, but Batman Begins turned me into a full on, bonafide Batman fan. But TDK to me, is not really a "batman" film...Its more like a crime thriller with a terrorist plot, and in that criteria, it has the quality to go up against the greatest crime/gangster movies of the past. I
Its very simple, thematically and structurally both movies are very different from each other. If you are a Batman fan from the comics and other materials you'd LOVE BATMAN BEGINS. I wasn't very big Bat-fan to begin with, but Batman Begins turned me into a full on, bonafide Batman fan. But TDK to me, is not really a "batman" film...Its more like a crime thriller with a terrorist plot, and in that criteria, it has the quality to go up against the greatest crime/gangster movies of the past. I vividly remember the very first time I watched TDK, I was disappointed, mainly because it was sooo different from BB, there's no Arkham, Narrows, Batcave, Wayne tower, Wayne mansion or every other little things from Batman mythology. But after the 2nd time I really started to appreciate the sheer quality of it as a "film" regardless if it was indeed different from BB or not. And because of its universal theme of good vs evil and its stand-alone aspect, it is much more universally accessed and acclaimed. Hell, I have many friends who didn't care for BB, or even never WATCHED it, but are the biggest fans of TDK. So, the question is, are you comparing them as Batman films, or just as great films. Both are beyond Awesome, but as a GREAT crime movie with deeper thematic elements about human nature, TDK gets my vote and as a movie about everything Batman, its BATMAN BEGINS.
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1:35PM on 07/19/2012

Come on..

It bugs me that the new movie is mainly called sequel to The Dark Knight and the movie that made TDK such a hit is often sidelined or completely forgotten. Batman Begins is a pure greatness in Batsuit and deserves to be acknowledged more! I went to TDK with realistic expectations but it still didn't top BB. These kind of movies make a lot of their money based on the movie before it. BB made some money, but people were wary of it thanks to B&R. TDK made much more money because the reputation of
It bugs me that the new movie is mainly called sequel to The Dark Knight and the movie that made TDK such a hit is often sidelined or completely forgotten. Batman Begins is a pure greatness in Batsuit and deserves to be acknowledged more! I went to TDK with realistic expectations but it still didn't top BB. These kind of movies make a lot of their money based on the movie before it. BB made some money, but people were wary of it thanks to B&R. TDK made much more money because the reputation of BB. Box-office returns and critical claim - bit shouldn't even be on the list if we are to rate the movies as they are as stories and entertainment. And I didn't care for the Heath's Joker THAT much, Not enough Jokerish for me.

BB has a better, interesting plot. TDK is more batsuited good guy vs. clown makeup bad guy thriller in my book. I love how in BB the henchmen shit themselves when Batman pics them up one by one. That fight at the docks and the scene where Batman is standing on the side of the building top after that...golden. His intro in TDK? Camera pans to him standing there. =) I like the BB suit better too, TDK suit is too..mecha-Batman.

And BB has majestic dialogue. You can't find anything in TDK as poverfull as "Training is nothing, will is everything!" or "If you make yourself more than just a man..." or " It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you."

TDK is good, but Batman Begins rules!
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5:22PM on 07/19/2012
I agree with almost everythiing you said except for 2 things: Heath Ledger & Dialogue. TDK's dialogues are like the new millennia's Casablanca or Godfather....I mean, "When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other", or "You see, madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!" or "You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time. But you were wrong. The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased,
I agree with almost everythiing you said except for 2 things: Heath Ledger & Dialogue. TDK's dialogues are like the new millennia's Casablanca or Godfather....I mean, "When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other", or "You see, madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!" or "You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time. But you were wrong. The world is cruel, and the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased, unprejudiced... fair." or maybe the shortest and still the BEST: "Why so serious?". And IMO, Ledger was more than enough Joker to cover 3 movies. THUMBS DOWN. Sorry.
12:20PM on 07/19/2012
Dark Knight. though I prefer the gritty, rundown look of Gotham in Begins, over all TDK is just a better movie. I'm also surprised you preferred Rachel Dawes in Begins. I did actually like Katie Holmes, but I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is A) a much better actress, and B) much prettier (though plenty will disagree with me on THAT front, I'm sure).
Dark Knight. though I prefer the gritty, rundown look of Gotham in Begins, over all TDK is just a better movie. I'm also surprised you preferred Rachel Dawes in Begins. I did actually like Katie Holmes, but I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is A) a much better actress, and B) much prettier (though plenty will disagree with me on THAT front, I'm sure).
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11:57AM on 07/19/2012

TDK

I just watched Batman Begins again for the 4th time I think. It is a very good movie, the development of character is excellent, and later on when it heats up, it is fantastic. But the problem with it is that it is so long and so epic a story that it FEELS long, and almost tedious. The good thing is that it heats up remarkably. It sets the tone on character, you truly get a sense of the moral code of Batman. That being said, The Dark Knight was FULL of flaws, but it played like a crime
I just watched Batman Begins again for the 4th time I think. It is a very good movie, the development of character is excellent, and later on when it heats up, it is fantastic. But the problem with it is that it is so long and so epic a story that it FEELS long, and almost tedious. The good thing is that it heats up remarkably. It sets the tone on character, you truly get a sense of the moral code of Batman. That being said, The Dark Knight was FULL of flaws, but it played like a crime drama, like The Godfather, it is tightly wrapped and challenging for Wayne/Batman, there is a sense of hysteria, fear, chaos, unpredictable, and tense. It twists and turns. Each "action scene builds and folds and flips and flops. And when it comes back down to it, ***spoilers*** Batman still keeps that moral code, that fiber that makes him who he is. TDK is a triumph. To me it is a little bit better than BB.
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11:42AM on 07/19/2012

Batman Begins

Because like someone previously said, this is about Batman. That's my problem with The Dark Knight: Joker is so significant, he outshines the title hero. Also, Begins' pacing is better IMO.
Because like someone previously said, this is about Batman. That's my problem with The Dark Knight: Joker is so significant, he outshines the title hero. Also, Begins' pacing is better IMO.
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11:15AM on 07/19/2012

I'm sorry...

I love TDK but Begins is just a better Batman story and works more like the comics. I loved Ledger as the Joker, but TDK drags like a son of a bitch and feels a little taxing to watch at times. I think it's all well done and it blew me away opening night, but on repeated reviews Begins is just a tighter story and TDK gets a little bloated and political at times. Both great movies, but I got to go Begins for the win.
I love TDK but Begins is just a better Batman story and works more like the comics. I loved Ledger as the Joker, but TDK drags like a son of a bitch and feels a little taxing to watch at times. I think it's all well done and it blew me away opening night, but on repeated reviews Begins is just a tighter story and TDK gets a little bloated and political at times. Both great movies, but I got to go Begins for the win.
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10:30AM on 07/19/2012

Why is this even a debate

The only BATMAN movie that can even come close to FACEING-OFF agaist THE DARK KNIGHT is the original Keaton film and that film would still loose buy a Margin.
The only BATMAN movie that can even come close to FACEING-OFF agaist THE DARK KNIGHT is the original Keaton film and that film would still loose buy a Margin.
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9:40AM on 07/19/2012

Begins all the way

Begins was better. In TDK, there's nothing about Arlem, no more train, it was more like a superhero movie. TDK is a fucking good movie!! But almost no a super hero movie.
Begins was better. In TDK, there's nothing about Arlem, no more train, it was more like a superhero movie. TDK is a fucking good movie!! But almost no a super hero movie.
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12:18PM on 07/19/2012
Ya don't need to have superpowers to be considered a superhero. Batman is very much a superhero with all of his gadgets & the fact he fights for what is right. Thats not only being a hero but above that, so yes a SUPERhero.
Ya don't need to have superpowers to be considered a superhero. Batman is very much a superhero with all of his gadgets & the fact he fights for what is right. Thats not only being a hero but above that, so yes a SUPERhero.
11:42AM on 07/19/2012
Batman isn't a super hero though.
Batman isn't a super hero though.
10:23AM on 07/19/2012
DUH.. Batman is a SuperHero. And TDK actually felt more like a Gangster Crime Thriller. Begins was fucking Boring.
DUH.. Batman is a SuperHero. And TDK actually felt more like a Gangster Crime Thriller. Begins was fucking Boring.
6:59AM on 07/19/2012
If you put my feet to a fire and made me pick one I'd have to go with TDK, just for the suspense and awe it throws at you as you watch it. Begins has the best origin story ever for a comic movie and the best lead up ever. The sequel teaser had been done so many times in the movies but be honest, like me, how many people had chills run up their spines when Gordon shows Batman the Joker card at the end of Begins. Greatest teaser to a sequel ever imo.
If you put my feet to a fire and made me pick one I'd have to go with TDK, just for the suspense and awe it throws at you as you watch it. Begins has the best origin story ever for a comic movie and the best lead up ever. The sequel teaser had been done so many times in the movies but be honest, like me, how many people had chills run up their spines when Gordon shows Batman the Joker card at the end of Begins. Greatest teaser to a sequel ever imo.
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6:03AM on 07/19/2012
I agree on all points but, I disagree about Rachel Dawes and the story. While Batman Begins was a great film, I think that story from TDK was much more appealing and trumps Begins. It is one of the most raw stories about the differences between light and darkness that I have ever seen. There are very few films that present us with characters who so embody light and darkness as The Joker and Batman, and TDK is a nearly flawless transition of these characters from page to screen. As mentioned,
I agree on all points but, I disagree about Rachel Dawes and the story. While Batman Begins was a great film, I think that story from TDK was much more appealing and trumps Begins. It is one of the most raw stories about the differences between light and darkness that I have ever seen. There are very few films that present us with characters who so embody light and darkness as The Joker and Batman, and TDK is a nearly flawless transition of these characters from page to screen. As mentioned, Heath Ledger gives a performance in which he becomes Joker, a character so chaotic, he is nearly chaos itself. The entire film is a clash between Batman's sense of justice and Joker's nature of chaos. That unstoppable object hitting that immovable wall. It's a story that I think is more basic and more raw than Begins origin story, and yet it is also so much deeper. Again, there are very few films I've scene that are so deep, yet so basic in the light versus darkness or chaos versus order. As for Rachel Dawes, I can very rarely stand Katie Holmes, and Batman Begins did not change that. Gyllenhal is always far more appealing and her performance was far better, so I have to disagree there. The only area again TDK that I agree with is on Batman/Bruce Wayne. While his story is still great, it is overshadowed by Ledger's performance, which I was kind of bummed about. Thankfully, it seems DKR makes up for this by delivering Bale's best performance and keeping Bruce Wayne very much in the spotlight.
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12:01PM on 07/19/2012
I think Maggie had a sultry sexiness about her. I think Katie was good, very serious, perhaps TOO serious. Maggie smiled a lot. Her Rachel Dawes seemed comfortable in her element and was no doubt smitten by Harvey, which was VERY useful in setting up Harvey as the white knight. Maggie came across as more sincere to me. I'd happily call it a tie, but although Katie looks prettier to me, Maggie seemed more accessible and sexy.
I think Maggie had a sultry sexiness about her. I think Katie was good, very serious, perhaps TOO serious. Maggie smiled a lot. Her Rachel Dawes seemed comfortable in her element and was no doubt smitten by Harvey, which was VERY useful in setting up Harvey as the white knight. Maggie came across as more sincere to me. I'd happily call it a tie, but although Katie looks prettier to me, Maggie seemed more accessible and sexy.
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5:44AM on 07/19/2012
I cannot believe that I have to give a red mark to go against TDK, since I love that movie so much, but Begins just connected with me a lot more. I absolutely loved the build up before Wayne dons the cowl, i.e. the mental and physical training, plus the back-story. The scene where he fights the other prisoners in Bhutan amped me up so much. The chemistry between Bale and Neeson worked incredibly well. It was great to see that Freeman and Caine were perfectly cast. It's one of those things
I cannot believe that I have to give a red mark to go against TDK, since I love that movie so much, but Begins just connected with me a lot more. I absolutely loved the build up before Wayne dons the cowl, i.e. the mental and physical training, plus the back-story. The scene where he fights the other prisoners in Bhutan amped me up so much. The chemistry between Bale and Neeson worked incredibly well. It was great to see that Freeman and Caine were perfectly cast. It's one of those things where they are both pretty much "10s" but for different reasons.
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5:26AM on 07/19/2012

Rachel

Katie Holmes over Maggie Gyllenhall? Does anyone else agree with Paul? For me, Katie Holmes is like the Jar Jar Binks of Begins. Gyllenhall was a brilliant replacement.
Katie Holmes over Maggie Gyllenhall? Does anyone else agree with Paul? For me, Katie Holmes is like the Jar Jar Binks of Begins. Gyllenhall was a brilliant replacement.
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6:44AM on 07/19/2012
I agree. It was jarring to see how bad Katie Holmes was compared to the other elements of the iron-clad ensemble. Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Christian Bale, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson and...the Dawson's Creek girl? Was a definite level breaker. Gyllenhaal was a good replacement but the character was starting to wear out her welcome. There are a number of female characters Nolan and Goyer could have chosen from the comics and Rachel definitely was a pretty flimsy creation.
I agree. It was jarring to see how bad Katie Holmes was compared to the other elements of the iron-clad ensemble. Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Christian Bale, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson and...the Dawson's Creek girl? Was a definite level breaker. Gyllenhaal was a good replacement but the character was starting to wear out her welcome. There are a number of female characters Nolan and Goyer could have chosen from the comics and Rachel definitely was a pretty flimsy creation.
5:51AM on 07/19/2012
They were both very weak, but Holmes was definitely weaker. I actually thought where she slaps Bruce, coupled with the conversation, in Begins seemed a bit forced only because of her (I felt like she was just reading lines). Holmes did not bounce off Bale very well in my opinion (Bale was great in that scene). I just watched Begins last week and thought she was even worse than I had remembered.
They were both very weak, but Holmes was definitely weaker. I actually thought where she slaps Bruce, coupled with the conversation, in Begins seemed a bit forced only because of her (I felt like she was just reading lines). Holmes did not bounce off Bale very well in my opinion (Bale was great in that scene). I just watched Begins last week and thought she was even worse than I had remembered.
5:20AM on 07/19/2012

Begins

I think Begins was such a great movie for me because it was the first batman film that really concentrated on Bruce/Bats rather than him becoming second fiddle to the villains. He is such an interesting character but is often put in the background by the larger than life villains around him.

Still love TDK though. Just not as much...
I think Begins was such a great movie for me because it was the first batman film that really concentrated on Bruce/Bats rather than him becoming second fiddle to the villains. He is such an interesting character but is often put in the background by the larger than life villains around him.

Still love TDK though. Just not as much...
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5:01AM on 07/19/2012
The Dark Knight Rises beats the two by a bit, but all three films certainly have their merits. The first movie laid the groundwork very well and was a much-needed reinvention of the film franchise, and an interpretation of the character that many found very agreeable. The second had Ledger's Joker of course, but also had larger-scale action sequences and deeper thematic elements. The third has such a large scale, an all-encompassing and very engrossing story, an interesting cast of new
The Dark Knight Rises beats the two by a bit, but all three films certainly have their merits. The first movie laid the groundwork very well and was a much-needed reinvention of the film franchise, and an interpretation of the character that many found very agreeable. The second had Ledger's Joker of course, but also had larger-scale action sequences and deeper thematic elements. The third has such a large scale, an all-encompassing and very engrossing story, an interesting cast of new characters and the craftsmanship displayed shows how much Nolan, his brother, Wally Pfister, Nathan Crowley and the rest of the crew have progressed. They seem to have learned a lot from the previous two films and Inception as well , and so we get a true epic in an age where the word is tossed around like a volleyball.
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3:01AM on 07/19/2012
Tie
Tie
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2:42AM on 07/19/2012
Well of course to me TDK is the ultimate masterpiece when it comes to Batman movies so of course its the better movie. I will admit at first I did not think Batman Begins was a great film when i first saw it in theatres. Yes it was a origin story that to me took forever to get Bruce Wayne to finally become Batman. The lack of action scenes was also a turn off.I also feel it was a bit preachy at times. However upon multiple viewings I have grown to appreciate BB for what it was trying to be as
Well of course to me TDK is the ultimate masterpiece when it comes to Batman movies so of course its the better movie. I will admit at first I did not think Batman Begins was a great film when i first saw it in theatres. Yes it was a origin story that to me took forever to get Bruce Wayne to finally become Batman. The lack of action scenes was also a turn off.I also feel it was a bit preachy at times. However upon multiple viewings I have grown to appreciate BB for what it was trying to be as more than just a comic book film. To me this was the first Batman film to focus on Bruce Wayne himself & appreciate the character of Bruce Wayne as a whole. Now once TDK came out is when i began to appreciate both films even more & understood the so called realistic approach Nolan intended these movies to be. These 2 films are more than comic book adaptations but a reflection of who & what both Bruce Wayne & Batman were truly meant to coexist as a whole. It helped establish the real truth as to why Wayne needed to become Batman from the get go. A film that was just more about the villains that the other previous films have always focused upon. It appears TDKR further more puts emphasis on who Bruce Wayne & Batman have become now & appears to make true fans appreciate an iconic character that has finally been done right for once.
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1:41AM on 07/19/2012
The Dark Knight for me. To me, Nolan and co. took the recipe of making sequel and smashed it to pieces. What Nolan did was unprecedented. I remember the first time I watched The Dark Knight, I felt like once the movie started it never stop to give audiences room to breath. Particularly, the performance of the late great Heath Ledger. He practically left audiences breathless. Another reason I like The Dark Knight more than Begins is because in The Dark Knight, Nolan handled action scenes better
The Dark Knight for me. To me, Nolan and co. took the recipe of making sequel and smashed it to pieces. What Nolan did was unprecedented. I remember the first time I watched The Dark Knight, I felt like once the movie started it never stop to give audiences room to breath. Particularly, the performance of the late great Heath Ledger. He practically left audiences breathless. Another reason I like The Dark Knight more than Begins is because in The Dark Knight, Nolan handled action scenes better whereas in Begins some action scenes were a bit hard to follow.
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1:25AM on 07/19/2012

Begins!

Who is with me? I like Dark Knight a lot, but Batman Begins was more humble and had to count on its story being interesting. The Dark Knight was great mainly because of Ledger, who was amazing, but I think the story didn't have as emotion as Begins did. It was a great crime epic, but I just didn't feel as connected like I did in Begins.
Who is with me? I like Dark Knight a lot, but Batman Begins was more humble and had to count on its story being interesting. The Dark Knight was great mainly because of Ledger, who was amazing, but I think the story didn't have as emotion as Begins did. It was a great crime epic, but I just didn't feel as connected like I did in Begins.
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10:26AM on 07/19/2012
Begins was like a LIFETIME movie compared to THE DARK KNIGHT.
Begins was like a LIFETIME movie compared to THE DARK KNIGHT.
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