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The UnPopular Opinion: Superman Returns

Nov. 21, 2012by: Alex Maidy

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

**** SOME SPOILERS ENSUE****

Yes, the same guy who hated THE AVENGERS loved SUPERMAN RETURNS. Begin the onslaught of derision and spite! I will never apologize for my opinions, especially when it comes to movies. But, read on and if you disagree with me, you are welcome to point it out in the talkbacks below.

SUPERMAN RETURNS was not just the culmination of a long road to creating a new Superman movie, but the end to a journey of 19 years without fans being able to see one of the greatest comic book heroes on the big screen. Multiple filmmakers from McG to Tim Burton to Kevin Smith and JJ Abrams had tried to write or direct a new Superman movie to no avail. It was not until Bryan Singer finished working on the first two X-MEN movies that it became a reality.

Most of the superhero series that have made their way to the big screen have not had a level of visual consistency as directors left and new filmmakers came on board.  Until the Marvel Cinematic Universe at Disney, when a new person came in, the entire vision of the hero switched.  Think Joel Schumacher versus Tim Burton or Sam Raimi versus Mark Webb.  Back in the Richard Donner days, when Richard Lester took over, he worked with what Donner had already created on SUPERMAN II before veering off into ridiculousness with SUPERMAN III.  Don't even get me started on SUPERMAN IV.  Bryan Singer decided to keep his Superman as close to the classic Donner version as possible, both as homage and reintroduction.

Man, Superman gets really shitty reception up here in the North Pole.

Superman is an icon and many feel his place in modern society is no longer what it was back in the 1940s.  Back then, like Captain America, Superman represented the American Way.  As times grew more cynical and dark, heroes like Batman and Punisher became what the fans wanted.  No matter how many times they tried to change him, Superman has always represented pure good.  Singer's film retains that throwback to the 40s feel that Donner's film had.  So, when you watch SUPERMAN RETURNS, it feels like you are seeing Richard Donner's SUPERMAN III, right down to the inclusion of John Williams iconic score.  It is a direct continuation that doesn't feel like it had a twenty-six year gap in between.  He even was able to bring Marlon Brando back from the dead for one final role!  Now that is Hollywood power!

Brandon Routh feels like the reincarnation of Christopher Reeve.  You see him on screen and you almost feel like it is the same hero from your childhood.  Everything from the mannerisms as Clark Kent to the clothing and glasses feels like it was saved from the first movie.  Routh, at first, feels like he is doing an imitation of Reeve, but as you continue into the movie, you know he is respecting the uniform he fills while also giving his own spin on the part.  Routh has not exactly had a stellar post-SUPERMAN RETURNS career, but he also has not allowed the part to typecast him.  Routh brought a strength to the role that should have launched him to a bigger career than he has had.

What is the opposite of Christopher Reeve?  Christopher Walken!  Get it?

Many people had issues with Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane.  Sure, she was a little bit shrill for the part and her voice was grating and annoying.  Plus she looked kind of dowdy.  Oh, wait, I am thinking of Margot Kidder!  What was so bad about Bosworth?  She may not have looked like the traditional Lois, but she carried herself as the stronger, more modern version of the part that fits with today's world. 

Adding in their son, Jason Kent, is my biggest issue with the movie.  I liked the James Marsden character since Superman has not really had any competition for Lois on the big screen, but the kid felt a little forced.  I was dreading the moment he would display the same powers as his father, but when it finally happened, I was okay with it.  It is a lot like Joseph Gordon-Levitt's John Blake being revealed to be Robin.  Sure, I could have done without it, but it does not ruin the movie for me.

Go on, tell me again who played a better villain than me.  Hackman?  WROOOOOOOONG!

Now, let us talk about the absolute best casting in the entire movie: Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.  From the moment I saw SEVEN, I knew Kevin Spacey was destined to be Lex.  The diabolical eyes, the undercurrent of insanity, and a great yelling voice.  Not to mention phenomenal acting chops.  Spacey combines the best elements of Luthor from the comic books and from Gene Hackman's performances.  He is funny and evil at the same time to the point I want him back whenever the villain is introduced in the Zack Snyder series.

That being said, my only problem with SUPERMAN RETURNS is that the plan Lex concocts is not worthy of the movie.  Bryan Singer created this Metropolis with enough realism that I felt we had the best Superman ever visually displayed but we are left with him using that ultimate power to create Kryptonite based real estate?  Well, I guess that is very Luthor-esque, I was just waiting for a giant robot to battle Superman to round it out.

While Lex's plot may not be the most solid part of the movie, it is a minor quibble compared to what Singer does accomplish.  The re-introduxtion of Superman via the space shuttle rescue is brilliant and showcases how breathtaking Superman looks when flying using modern special effects.  Even when Supes battles criminals, namely in the rooftop shootout, we finally see what we all imagined Superman to be like.  Bullets don't phase him, or even make him blink!  Each utilization of his superpowers looks realistic and amazing on the big screen.

Absolute cinematic perfection.

If I were to pick one Superman movie to watch, I would grab the original 1978 movie. If I were to follow it up, I would go for SUPERMAN RETURNS. As much as I love the battle with General Zod from SUPERMAN II, that movie feels muddled. SUPERMAN RETURNS is a complete movie. It has action, humor, and especially heart. For an alien hero, Superman is one of the most human characters in all of literature and the filmmakers behind SUPERMAN RETURNS truly understood that. I would have been all for a Singer directed sequel, but alas we get MAN OF STEEL instead. I will hold out hope that it will be a fitting continuation of the Superman movies I have come to love, even if it doesn't share the same visual style.

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10:23AM on 11/22/2012
Yeah I think this movie gets too much hate. I didn't think it was perfect and it was definitely disappointing in a lot of areas, but it was decent.
Yeah I think this movie gets too much hate. I didn't think it was perfect and it was definitely disappointing in a lot of areas, but it was decent.
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3:38AM on 11/22/2012
This movie stinks is an absolute borefest from beginning to end. The chemistry between Routh & Bosworth was downright embrassing & it's Lois Lane. Ya I get he was gone for so long but she treated him like shit. The whole kid subplot killed it for me also, I mean was that their son or not. I will say I did like Spacey hamming it up as Luthor though but damn what a mess this film is. It cost us fans X-Men 3 & some have never recovered since.
This movie stinks is an absolute borefest from beginning to end. The chemistry between Routh & Bosworth was downright embrassing & it's Lois Lane. Ya I get he was gone for so long but she treated him like shit. The whole kid subplot killed it for me also, I mean was that their son or not. I will say I did like Spacey hamming it up as Luthor though but damn what a mess this film is. It cost us fans X-Men 3 & some have never recovered since.
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8:25AM on 11/22/2012
If it helps clear things up, yes the kid was Kal-El's son. Most Earth children can't throw a piano at people.
If it helps clear things up, yes the kid was Kal-El's son. Most Earth children can't throw a piano at people.
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3:01AM on 11/22/2012
I only loved two things, Brandon's portrayal of Clark Kent and the plane scene in the beginning, everything else made me sad as I watched one of my top superheroes be so badly portrayed due to a terrible story as many below have posted.
I only loved two things, Brandon's portrayal of Clark Kent and the plane scene in the beginning, everything else made me sad as I watched one of my top superheroes be so badly portrayed due to a terrible story as many below have posted.
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8:35PM on 11/21/2012

Ok folks, rant coming up.

What this movie really is, is a sequel to the first 2 Chris Reeve Superman movies, making this the end of a trilogy. Unfortunately it came 20 years too late; It was the end of a trilogy nobody wanted to see. I watched the 1978 version a couple of weeks ago with my kids and while they kind of vaguely enjoyed it (because it's Superman, duh... they're 5 (twins) and couldn't care less about the intricacies of story apart from the fact that the talking bits are boring) it really doesn't hold up. For
What this movie really is, is a sequel to the first 2 Chris Reeve Superman movies, making this the end of a trilogy. Unfortunately it came 20 years too late; It was the end of a trilogy nobody wanted to see. I watched the 1978 version a couple of weeks ago with my kids and while they kind of vaguely enjoyed it (because it's Superman, duh... they're 5 (twins) and couldn't care less about the intricacies of story apart from the fact that the talking bits are boring) it really doesn't hold up. For its time it was brilliant, there's no denying that; Gene Hackman was great (as always), the special effects were cool, all the basic elements were there... but in hindsight it just isn't very good. Unfortunately Bryan Singer chose to make such a cloying, nostalgic, limp-wristed, ham-fisted love-letter of a movie that seems to hold the original Donner film in such high regard that he forgot that audiences have changed greatly in the last 20 years as well. Seeing the Donner film(s) with such rose-coloured glasses made him oblivious to the fact that people now are far more educated about plot, story, special effects etc than they were in 1978 when the movie going public seemed to be merely happy that a version of Superman existed at all in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I liked the 1978 and 1980 versions of Superman at the time, but hey, I was 8 & 10 when I saw them in theatres, and I only saw them once (before the advent of home video). Which brings up another good point: movies nowadays need to stand up to repeat viewings, which make stupid plot holes and inconsistencies in a movie's internal logic easy to forgive or overlook on a first viewing seem like glaring mistakes on repeat viewings, turning what may have been an enjoyable experience the first time into an unwatchable mess after the third or fourth. Mistakes that can seriously ruin the enjoyment of a movie such as this one.

This movie takes so frickin' long to get started. The producers / directors of this movie need to understand that the audience already knows the Superman story by now, so they really should have opened with Superman, not making the audience wait sooo long to actually see the man in tights. (Opening useless black-suited non-cape-wearing stumbling Superman notwithstanding.) And when he finally does make an appearance, he actually causes so much collateral damage that it makes him seem irretrevably stupid. Taking so long to disengage Richard Branson's Cameo Vehicle from the jet liner, then sitting in the air watching it go when shock! horror! oh wait, I forgot about the 747. Then speeding after it (kind of) and trying to stop it spinning by grabbing the end of one of the wings? Of course the wing's going to break off, you big blue doofus. I'm sure Kal-El is a caring dude but he obviously doesn't know anything about physics. Except wait, he should have, cause he learned all that stuff that Marlon Brando taught him in his spiky space pod thing when he was a baby, right? Hmm. So then he flies through the broken wing, exploding its fuel tanks and scattering deadly falling debris directly over suburban Metropolis, which I noticed nobody bothers to explain or clean up or anything. He then crashes the airliner in the middle of a sports stadium, not because it was part of any kind of grand design on his part, but because that's just where it happened to be headed. It could have crashed down in the middle of a city street and Superman still would have had to lay it down and probably killed hundreds of innocent commuters in the process. But having said all that, this scene is considered the "action" highlight of the movie. And the worst part... it actually is.

Most of the time Superman is on-screen he's a self-centered jerk. He breaks a photo of his ex-girlfriend and her new family. He's a peeping tom. His so-called best friend Jimmy Olsen barely tolerates him in the one scene they share (? perhaps more? I tuned out because he was such a boring character). I'm so happy they employed Frank Langella as Perry White instead of Hugh Laurie because that would have ruined watching House MD for me forever. Lois Lane was insipid, weak and boring and apart from wanting to protect her child had nothing to do in this film. And don't get me started on Parker Posey. I cannot watch another movie with her in it, period. Just watch her when she scream/cries at Lex Luthor "You said you were.. only.. going to.. cut them!" and you can hear the sound of me losing interest in the rest of her career. She was already skating on thin ice after Blade Trinity and after this movie she makes me more sickeningly ill than having to listen to Andie McDowell's accent on loop. I'm not even going to go into her pseudo Miss Tessmacher lite character at all because I fear I will actually vomit.

There are some things I like about this movie. Kevin Spacey is always great, and did as good a job as could have been expected given the script he had to work with. His Lex Luthor was appropriately menacing, conniving and creepy (in a good way) but his motivations were misguided on the part of the scriptwriters. James Marsden was great and in his own way is actually much more of a hero than Superman was. Brandon Routh did a good job of being a Christopher Reeve proxy and it's a shame that he hasn't done much of note since.

I know I'm not alone in thinking the son-of-Superman thing was irretrievably stupid. And it's NOT the same thing as JGL being "Robin" in TDKR. That was merely a "nod" to fans and if it wasn't there wouldn't really have made much difference to the movie thematically. In Superman Returns' case, the son-of-Superman plot device is actually so integral to the plot of the movie that removing it would make the movie completely fall apart thematically. He only awakes from his coma after Lois' revelation of Superman's parentage, and then comes to realise that he's now a father and gets to be responsible in perhaps the way his own father wasn't able to be (y'know, cause the planet blew up n stuff). AND THEN HE FLIES AWAY ANYWAY. Making him a jerk.

Singer so greatly misinterpreted the character of Superman in this movie that it's not even funny. Mind you I would still prefer to watch Superman Returns over either of the 1978 or 1980 versions (because spinning the earth backwards is a stupid way to time travel, and at least in this movie he doesn't have random super chest logo throwing powers) and attempt to put my suspension of disbelief filter over the story and just enjoy the special effects work.

Like my 5-year-olds, I will just fast forward through the boring talking bits.
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12:34AM on 11/22/2012
I'm sure your post is well thought out. But who want's to read all that?
I'm sure your post is well thought out. But who want's to read all that?
8:25PM on 11/24/2012
Dkev- What's the point of joining a duscussion, if you're not going to listen to what someone has to say? Maybe you were turned off by the fact that he said it was a rant. And, yes, the post is well thought out, and makes some great points. But it was only about four or five paragraphs; it wasn't a dissertation. I guess if an opinion can't fit into 140 characters, you can't be bothered to listen (or read).
Dkev- What's the point of joining a duscussion, if you're not going to listen to what someone has to say? Maybe you were turned off by the fact that he said it was a rant. And, yes, the post is well thought out, and makes some great points. But it was only about four or five paragraphs; it wasn't a dissertation. I guess if an opinion can't fit into 140 characters, you can't be bothered to listen (or read).
6:25PM on 11/21/2012

And Singer and Co. rushed a weak script for WB's deadlines.

I believe Singer and his crew worked out a script over only a few days or few weeks to meets WB's deadline of a Summer 2006 release. But Singer really wanted the film and took that risk to get it. I would do that too if I could direct a Superman film.
I believe Singer and his crew worked out a script over only a few days or few weeks to meets WB's deadline of a Summer 2006 release. But Singer really wanted the film and took that risk to get it. I would do that too if I could direct a Superman film.
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6:23PM on 11/21/2012
Hell Yeah! I totally agree. I love this movie. it has some story flaws and bad casting/ character writing but it's everything I grew up with and takes me back to my childhood. I loved Routh as Superman and Kent but he wasn't given enough to work with or Singer cut a lot of his stuff since it was his acting debut. However, after seeing the teaser and cast for Man of Steel, I feel it will be a nice direction for Superman.

And the Christopher Walken joke was good.
Hell Yeah! I totally agree. I love this movie. it has some story flaws and bad casting/ character writing but it's everything I grew up with and takes me back to my childhood. I loved Routh as Superman and Kent but he wasn't given enough to work with or Singer cut a lot of his stuff since it was his acting debut. However, after seeing the teaser and cast for Man of Steel, I feel it will be a nice direction for Superman.

And the Christopher Walken joke was good.
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6:19PM on 11/21/2012

This is a tough one...

only because it feels so recycled, and phoned in. Routh did the best he could with the script. I think, had the script been better, Routh would still be superman. Yes the flavor of all the previous Superman movies was there, but the character evolved. DC made a spate of Superman cartoon features and expanded the character through tv Shows and that evolution was followed in the comics. Singer is very myopic in his analysis of the character. He is also limited in his view of what lengths a super
only because it feels so recycled, and phoned in. Routh did the best he could with the script. I think, had the script been better, Routh would still be superman. Yes the flavor of all the previous Superman movies was there, but the character evolved. DC made a spate of Superman cartoon features and expanded the character through tv Shows and that evolution was followed in the comics. Singer is very myopic in his analysis of the character. He is also limited in his view of what lengths a super genius billionaire villain would go to to destroy his enemy. A fucking Kryptonite island? And just how many time do we have to see almost the same stupid attempts by the 70's/80's Luthor? I have a glimmer of hope for he new movie, but after you see Superman go toe to toe with Darksied Zod is chicken feed. Once you hear Superman explain why he takes a beating before really ending a fight you understand his character, his true limitation. Singer got none of that here, here he thinks that kryptonite is his limitation. This is why Singer should never be allower to pen comic book movies, he just doesn't understand superheroes. Best superman scrpt in my opinion is All Star Superman.
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4:37PM on 11/21/2012
i sat down and watched all of smallville,then the Christopher Reeves movies and then Superman Returns, i agree with you, it was a good movie not a great movie, it had big shoes to fill, so expectations were high, son of superman bit was much and the new Lois Lane just sucked, if people want to hate a superman movie go see Superman IV the quest for for peace now that sucked
i sat down and watched all of smallville,then the Christopher Reeves movies and then Superman Returns, i agree with you, it was a good movie not a great movie, it had big shoes to fill, so expectations were high, son of superman bit was much and the new Lois Lane just sucked, if people want to hate a superman movie go see Superman IV the quest for for peace now that sucked
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4:27PM on 11/21/2012
I've been waiting for this one. The movie re-introduced the Richard Donner universe nicely and it honestly seems like Singer has a knack for building a style and characters before raising the bar significantly (X-Men vs. X2). I would have liked to see a more filled out continuation of this universe.
I've been waiting for this one. The movie re-introduced the Richard Donner universe nicely and it honestly seems like Singer has a knack for building a style and characters before raising the bar significantly (X-Men vs. X2). I would have liked to see a more filled out continuation of this universe.
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4:13PM on 11/21/2012

Plot

Other than the plot of Lex Luther and the plot of this kid you seem to like this movie. To me, that's like saying that a car has corinthian leather, state of the art GPS, a fantastic sound system, self parking and no engine.
Other than the plot of Lex Luther and the plot of this kid you seem to like this movie. To me, that's like saying that a car has corinthian leather, state of the art GPS, a fantastic sound system, self parking and no engine.
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3:59PM on 11/21/2012
This movie is so bad, that even the bad guys in the movie get bored about midway through and sit down to play cards.

Also, when roughly 55% of the movie dialog and plot is taken from a 30 year old movie that it's trying so hard to be a sequel to, it automatically fails.
This movie is so bad, that even the bad guys in the movie get bored about midway through and sit down to play cards.

Also, when roughly 55% of the movie dialog and plot is taken from a 30 year old movie that it's trying so hard to be a sequel to, it automatically fails.
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3:28PM on 11/21/2012

Plot

Other than the plot of Lex Luther and the plot of this kid you seem to like this movie. To me, that's like saying that a car has corinthian leather, state of the art GPS, a fantastic sound system, self parking and no engine.
Other than the plot of Lex Luther and the plot of this kid you seem to like this movie. To me, that's like saying that a car has corinthian leather, state of the art GPS, a fantastic sound system, self parking and no engine.
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3:21PM on 11/21/2012
I love this movie. The shuttle rescue is one of the most breath taking scenes I've ever watched in cinema. It captures perfectly the essence of who Superman is and what he does. I didn't like the kid sub-plot however. Superman as created by Schuster and being the essence of "pure good" would never have a kid out of wedlock. Before everyone jumps on my nuts, Superman was created in a time where people were taught to abstain from sex until marriage and then start a family. So its only
I love this movie. The shuttle rescue is one of the most breath taking scenes I've ever watched in cinema. It captures perfectly the essence of who Superman is and what he does. I didn't like the kid sub-plot however. Superman as created by Schuster and being the essence of "pure good" would never have a kid out of wedlock. Before everyone jumps on my nuts, Superman was created in a time where people were taught to abstain from sex until marriage and then start a family. So its only fitting that they would keep the character of Superman with those principles of character intact, I was disappointed that they strayed from that.
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3:34PM on 11/21/2012
So what you're saying is ....your complaint is with Superman II. You know - the film where he actually sleeps with her outside of marriage. SR at least demonstrates that when he returns from his absence and realizes they had a child - he wants to do right by them.
So what you're saying is ....your complaint is with Superman II. You know - the film where he actually sleeps with her outside of marriage. SR at least demonstrates that when he returns from his absence and realizes they had a child - he wants to do right by them.
10:27PM on 11/21/2012
Being its been 20+ yrs since Ive seen Supes II I had forgotten about that scene, but that doesn't change the point I was trying to make one bit. I was only speaking of my own personal disappointment in the film.
Being its been 20+ yrs since Ive seen Supes II I had forgotten about that scene, but that doesn't change the point I was trying to make one bit. I was only speaking of my own personal disappointment in the film.
12:57PM on 11/21/2012
This movie is just so lifeless.
This movie is just so lifeless.
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12:34PM on 11/21/2012

Completely agree

I've always been a big fan of Superman Returns and am constantly defending it. Sure Lex's plot is mediocre and there isn't enough good action (you never see Superman fight anyone), but I was thrilled to see Singer continue the tradition where Donner left off instead of reinventing the wheel. I thought it was the best approach and was really bummed he wasn't able to make his sequel.
I've always been a big fan of Superman Returns and am constantly defending it. Sure Lex's plot is mediocre and there isn't enough good action (you never see Superman fight anyone), but I was thrilled to see Singer continue the tradition where Donner left off instead of reinventing the wheel. I thought it was the best approach and was really bummed he wasn't able to make his sequel.
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12:00PM on 11/21/2012

Glad you wrote this

Most of my friends flat out HATE this movie. I think its a good movie. I don't know if it's "absolute cinematic perfection" but it was a fun flick, mostly good acting, good plot, good effects, good directing.
Most of my friends flat out HATE this movie. I think its a good movie. I don't know if it's "absolute cinematic perfection" but it was a fun flick, mostly good acting, good plot, good effects, good directing.
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11:48AM on 11/21/2012

It's an entertaining flick but...

Son of Superman. Purleeeze. What a load of unrequired bollocks. The comics have done fine without him breeding not sure why a film needed top.
Son of Superman. Purleeeze. What a load of unrequired bollocks. The comics have done fine without him breeding not sure why a film needed top.
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3:38PM on 11/21/2012
he's had kids in multiple comics, yes some where alternate futures like Kingdom Come or imaginary tales which happened a lot, but it's the first time on film - well unless you count the animated features like All Star Superman. But it's not the first time the idea was addressed, just the first time in live action. oh wait - no there was Lois and Clark's final episode..... see what I mean. It's happened a lot. on TV, on film and in the comics. Superman has had kids.
he's had kids in multiple comics, yes some where alternate futures like Kingdom Come or imaginary tales which happened a lot, but it's the first time on film - well unless you count the animated features like All Star Superman. But it's not the first time the idea was addressed, just the first time in live action. oh wait - no there was Lois and Clark's final episode..... see what I mean. It's happened a lot. on TV, on film and in the comics. Superman has had kids.
11:00AM on 11/21/2012

Lex's Island

A huge misconception in the film was that Lex was creating an "island"... In the script Lex is creating "New Krypton." So when he delivers the line to Superman "Feel familiar?" (or something like that) its because the movie was suppose to open on Superman exploring his former home Krypton, which looked identical to Lex's "New Krypton." -- That being said they failed to bring that to life on the big screen. I really wish we'd get a directors cut of this film.
A huge misconception in the film was that Lex was creating an "island"... In the script Lex is creating "New Krypton." So when he delivers the line to Superman "Feel familiar?" (or something like that) its because the movie was suppose to open on Superman exploring his former home Krypton, which looked identical to Lex's "New Krypton." -- That being said they failed to bring that to life on the big screen. I really wish we'd get a directors cut of this film.
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5:34PM on 11/21/2012
I agree. Given that there is no earthly way that Singer is going to make a follow up to Superman I guess that we can consider the Donner/Singer Superman universe kaput. I have a funny feeling there will be some kind of directors cut of this movie... probably timed to cash in on the release of Man Of Steel.
I agree. Given that there is no earthly way that Singer is going to make a follow up to Superman I guess that we can consider the Donner/Singer Superman universe kaput. I have a funny feeling there will be some kind of directors cut of this movie... probably timed to cash in on the release of Man Of Steel.
10:59AM on 11/21/2012
I'm actually with ya on this one... never got the popular hate for this film!!
I'm actually with ya on this one... never got the popular hate for this film!!
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10:57AM on 11/21/2012
I have to agree with many of the comments below. It was just a lousy movie. One thing I want to add. Kevin Spacey couldn't wipe Gene Hackman's ass as Lex Luthor. Gene was sinister but fun. Gene's Lex is actually one of my favorite screen villains.
I have to agree with many of the comments below. It was just a lousy movie. One thing I want to add. Kevin Spacey couldn't wipe Gene Hackman's ass as Lex Luthor. Gene was sinister but fun. Gene's Lex is actually one of my favorite screen villains.
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10:50AM on 11/21/2012

Couldn't agree more.

excellent review - my sentiments exactly.

And bails1004 - the Dark Knight Rises has been out for half a year man. If you haven't seen it already - you have no one but yourself to blame. If you insist on waiting till it's out on disc - stop visiting movie sites if you don't want to risk having it spoiled. Moron.
excellent review - my sentiments exactly.

And bails1004 - the Dark Knight Rises has been out for half a year man. If you haven't seen it already - you have no one but yourself to blame. If you insist on waiting till it's out on disc - stop visiting movie sites if you don't want to risk having it spoiled. Moron.
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11:20AM on 11/21/2012
Dude it's not even out on DVD yet and he's dropping spoilers on it.
Dude it's not even out on DVD yet and he's dropping spoilers on it.
11:37AM on 11/21/2012
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
11:37AM on 11/21/2012
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
11:37AM on 11/21/2012
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
11:37AM on 11/21/2012
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
Also I'm reading an article about SR, the dark knight rises spiked does nothing to help is article except for being. Douche. I've stayed away from all articles about the movie. Seriously horrible writer.
11:38AM on 11/21/2012
yeah - but the film has been out since JULY. It hung around the theaters forever, and has moved on to the second run theaters in many areas already. So if you haven't seen it yet, whose fault is that? How you thought you'd manage to avoid spoilers on TV, magazines and the web, not to mention the rest of humanity in passing is beyond me. But you can hardly expect the guy to preface his review with a MASSIVE spoiler warning saying BEWARE - if you haven't seen Superman Returns, Superman The
yeah - but the film has been out since JULY. It hung around the theaters forever, and has moved on to the second run theaters in many areas already. So if you haven't seen it yet, whose fault is that? How you thought you'd manage to avoid spoilers on TV, magazines and the web, not to mention the rest of humanity in passing is beyond me. But you can hardly expect the guy to preface his review with a MASSIVE spoiler warning saying BEWARE - if you haven't seen Superman Returns, Superman The Movie, Superman II or Dark Knight Rises - you may want to avoid this review - just incase you haven't seen them all. That's a little excessive. Sorry you chose not to see it in theaters, but it's been out forever now.
10:47AM on 11/21/2012

Completely disagree

I enjoy this article, and occasionally champion it for the way it supports underrated movies. At other times, however, I can't believe what I'm reading, and this is apparently going to be one of those weeks. Personally, I despised this movie. This is a sequel to a movie from the early 80s, which right away shows bad judgement and a complete lack of original thinking. In a world where 10 year old Spiderman movies are already being rebooted, a decades-old franchise that SHOULD be rebooted
I enjoy this article, and occasionally champion it for the way it supports underrated movies. At other times, however, I can't believe what I'm reading, and this is apparently going to be one of those weeks. Personally, I despised this movie. This is a sequel to a movie from the early 80s, which right away shows bad judgement and a complete lack of original thinking. In a world where 10 year old Spiderman movies are already being rebooted, a decades-old franchise that SHOULD be rebooted continues with a retroactively (and poorly) conceived sequel? This makes no sense. It's lazy film-making, free or risk or creative process. As for the cast and story, no one really stands out for me, not even the much-lauded Routh in the title role. He's not bad, mind you, but he doesn't add anything to the portrayal beyond what Reeve did with the role. Kevin Spacey was poorly utilized as an over-the-top and WAY OVERUSED Lex Luthor. You know, Hollywood, Superman DOES have other villains, in case you'd ever be interested in exploring them on the big screen! Giving Superman a son seems to me to be a way for the film-makers to feel as though they broke new ground in this series without really trying, but all the character does is steal screen time from his dad, whom we all paid to see. As for the action, the only authentic "Superman" moment in my mind was his attempts to save Lois' plane. None of the other action set pieces were in the least bit interesting (facing down a *gasp" machine gun, lifting an entire Kryptonite continent out of the ocean... seriously?). I can go on, but I've already indulged myself enough here with this rant. I'm looking forward to The Man of Steel, and hopeful it's the movie that should have been made several years ago instead of this forgettable mess.
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10:47AM on 11/21/2012

Thank you.

Other than the plot with Superman's kid, I really liked this movie. I think a more action-packed sequel with new villains (Doomsday was the rumor), would have really made the series better. I have no idea how Fantastic 4 and Ghost Rider can get a sequel, but Superman Returns does not. Also, I have doubts that Man of Steel will do significantly better than Supermen Returns financially and critically, so I wonder what will happen to Superman if that happens.
Other than the plot with Superman's kid, I really liked this movie. I think a more action-packed sequel with new villains (Doomsday was the rumor), would have really made the series better. I have no idea how Fantastic 4 and Ghost Rider can get a sequel, but Superman Returns does not. Also, I have doubts that Man of Steel will do significantly better than Supermen Returns financially and critically, so I wonder what will happen to Superman if that happens.
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10:17AM on 11/21/2012

Spoilers! Next time write spoilers of dark knight rises so ppl know

NEXT TIME U WRITE AN ARTICLE AND SAY SPOILERS MOST ARE GOING TO THINK ITS ABOUT THE MOVIE YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Thanks for ruining dark knight rises u fuck face , I won't be reading ur shitty spoiler articles again
Joblo fire this clown please!!! Been reading this site forever and now well I'll find a site I can trust not to have a spoiler of a new movie in an article about a years old movie
NEXT TIME U WRITE AN ARTICLE AND SAY SPOILERS MOST ARE GOING TO THINK ITS ABOUT THE MOVIE YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Thanks for ruining dark knight rises u fuck face , I won't be reading ur shitty spoiler articles again
Joblo fire this clown please!!! Been reading this site forever and now well I'll find a site I can trust not to have a spoiler of a new movie in an article about a years old movie
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3:14PM on 11/21/2012
You mad bro???? I'm asking jo blo to ban this clown. His rhetoric is uncalled for and definitely not needed.
You mad bro???? I'm asking jo blo to ban this clown. His rhetoric is uncalled for and definitely not needed.
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9:57AM on 11/21/2012

Worst superman movie EVER!

A kid kills someone
That Is all that is needed to make this the worst superman movie ever. Singer has no idea wat superman stands for. Superman doesn't kill. Much less promote killing in fact it makes him sick. Add the fact that superman doesnt throw 1PUNCH AND GETS BEAT UP BY KUMAR How can unmake a movie and have supermans son kill a person
WORST SUPERMAN EVER EVEN WORSE THAN 3 and 4 cause it goes against the one thing that revults superman: killing
Not surprised Alex likes this movie, he's
A kid kills someone
That Is all that is needed to make this the worst superman movie ever. Singer has no idea wat superman stands for. Superman doesn't kill. Much less promote killing in fact it makes him sick. Add the fact that superman doesnt throw 1PUNCH AND GETS BEAT UP BY KUMAR How can unmake a movie and have supermans son kill a person
WORST SUPERMAN EVER EVEN WORSE THAN 3 and 4 cause it goes against the one thing that revults superman: killing
Not surprised Alex likes this movie, he's the I go against wat everyone in the world likes just to troll joblo writer. Anyone who says they like SR and dislikes avengers is a INTERNET TROLL.
In fact I didn't read one thing that could change my opinion which means someone is pulling our legs on this opinion
U would think someone who like SR more than the avengers would have some good points
It sounds like u are more woo d by te special effects than the character( it should have been called elseworld:superman returns) cause it wasn't the superman we know
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10:04PM on 11/21/2012
In his earliest appearances he tossed asides gangsters in ways that never explicitly showed death but were clearly a casual violence that would lead to death.

In the comics after the mid-eighties reboot, he's killed not only Doomsday (who, like most comic characters, got better), he also put to death several Kryptonian criminals who had commited planetary genocide.

The Golden Age Superman also in the eighties major crossover killed a [link] [link]

AND in Superman II - he kills Zod and
In his earliest appearances he tossed asides gangsters in ways that never explicitly showed death but were clearly a casual violence that would lead to death.

In the comics after the mid-eighties reboot, he's killed not only Doomsday (who, like most comic characters, got better), he also put to death several Kryptonian criminals who had commited planetary genocide.

The Golden Age Superman also in the eighties major crossover killed a [link] [link]

AND in Superman II - he kills Zod and allows the other two criminals to die in the fortress. So no - Superman has killed and will likely kill again.

He has never killed innocents, and in modern depictions has only crossed that line in rare, rare instances. But he most certainly has killed folks in the past. both superpowered and mortal folks alike.
9:56AM on 11/21/2012
I generally agree, though it's been many years since I watched the movie. Bosworth wasn't THAT BAD, I thought, though perhaps she wasn't the best person for the job. As with X2, Singer successfully injected real-world metaphores (made in 2006, Superman had been reportedly absent for five years, you do the math). Kevin Spacey really was the MVP of the movie, and I found it funny when I went back and watched Donner's original, how much I thought he looked like Gene Hackman (I don't, generally
I generally agree, though it's been many years since I watched the movie. Bosworth wasn't THAT BAD, I thought, though perhaps she wasn't the best person for the job. As with X2, Singer successfully injected real-world metaphores (made in 2006, Superman had been reportedly absent for five years, you do the math). Kevin Spacey really was the MVP of the movie, and I found it funny when I went back and watched Donner's original, how much I thought he looked like Gene Hackman (I don't, generally speaking, feel the two actors look much alike, but when they're rocking shaved heads there are certain similarities that stand out). The kid was obnoxious in that child-actor kind of way, but this is also the movie that made me really appreciate James Marsden, who I had previously just known as the bratty Cyclops and from a stint on Ally McBeal. Having said all that, the story is kind of all over the place, but I did think it had enough to recommend it that I was shocked by the huge backlash.
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9:44AM on 11/21/2012
I'm a huge superman fan and love the character, but this film was such a downer for me. Theres a lot that Singer got right with this film but the wrongs outweigh it. I loved Roth as superman (I kind of wished he got another chance to play superman), Spacey was amazing as usual and who could not love Parker Posey!! The visual were great and the atmosphere was right. The film just got boring and even weird with the superman kid. The film really needed more action set pieces and a worthy villain
I'm a huge superman fan and love the character, but this film was such a downer for me. Theres a lot that Singer got right with this film but the wrongs outweigh it. I loved Roth as superman (I kind of wished he got another chance to play superman), Spacey was amazing as usual and who could not love Parker Posey!! The visual were great and the atmosphere was right. The film just got boring and even weird with the superman kid. The film really needed more action set pieces and a worthy villain (physically) for superman to fight. While Spacey's Luthor was well acted it was just too much homage to gene hackmen and not enough homage to Lex from the comics. I want a lex thats diabolical and even a physical adversary to superman, not someone whos doing a real estate scam. I also really disliked Bosworth (which Im not alone there.) Im really looking forward to Man of Steel and hope that Zack takes it in another whole direction thats fresh and new.
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9:42AM on 11/21/2012

Many things I hate about this movie...

1. Brandon Routh was a terrific Clark Kent and a boring Superman.

2. Kate Bosworth was an awful Lois Lane and the script didn't help much either. I love that despite Superman saving her life earlier on the plane, she has the balls to be pissed at him and asking him "Why did you come back?". Nice, you'd be a sizzling pancake inside an aircraft wreckage if it wasn't for him.

3. I'm sorry but the kid having superpowers made no sense. Superman had sex with Lois while he was completely mortal
1. Brandon Routh was a terrific Clark Kent and a boring Superman.

2. Kate Bosworth was an awful Lois Lane and the script didn't help much either. I love that despite Superman saving her life earlier on the plane, she has the balls to be pissed at him and asking him "Why did you come back?". Nice, you'd be a sizzling pancake inside an aircraft wreckage if it wasn't for him.

3. I'm sorry but the kid having superpowers made no sense. Superman had sex with Lois while he was completely mortal with no powers of any kind. You would assume that his sperm would follow suit.

4. "The Big Plan" of Lex is completely retarded. Okay so he grows an island, what the fuck will he do then? Does he seriously believe that people will buy property on that thing? But the biggest question, does he really think no military force in the world will do something about it? The first thing they do is sit around, play cards and anything else boring. What were they waiting for? What was the plan from there? Made no sense at all and the writers really should have re-thought that in the script.

5. CGI wasn't that impressive, I'll be honest.

I could go on and on. The only saving graces of that movie are Kevin Spacey playing a great Lex and Parker Posey. And some of the action scenes were pretty cool. It can be entertaining quite often but the logic just went out the window.
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9:41AM on 11/21/2012

SuperBOY Returns

Never saw it. Primarily because instead of rebooting the franchise they tried to continue the storyline from the original films. And because they cast a kid as Superman. For lack of a better way to describe it, it was a Twilight take on Superman which I wasn't interested in seeing. Glad I never saw it. Looking forward to seeing Man of Steel.
Never saw it. Primarily because instead of rebooting the franchise they tried to continue the storyline from the original films. And because they cast a kid as Superman. For lack of a better way to describe it, it was a Twilight take on Superman which I wasn't interested in seeing. Glad I never saw it. Looking forward to seeing Man of Steel.
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8:56AM on 11/21/2012

So did Supes rape Lois?

I used to really love this movie for the throwback to the Donner films it is. But after watching it again recently it fell apart. Superman feels like a guest star in his own movie. I can't be the only one that see's Brandon Routh didn't get nearly as much screen time as he should have? He is turned into nothing more than a mopey little stalker. And it this is a continuation of Superman 2, you know when Supes gave Lois the forgot me kiss? Well if she knew the kid OBVIOUSLY wasn't Richards and
I used to really love this movie for the throwback to the Donner films it is. But after watching it again recently it fell apart. Superman feels like a guest star in his own movie. I can't be the only one that see's Brandon Routh didn't get nearly as much screen time as he should have? He is turned into nothing more than a mopey little stalker. And it this is a continuation of Superman 2, you know when Supes gave Lois the forgot me kiss? Well if she knew the kid OBVIOUSLY wasn't Richards and then he Supes out on that henchman...wouldn't she assume Supes raped her?! I mean she has no memory of them ever having sex? Returns is a good looking film and the action is good imo but it's to reliant on nostalgia to be it's own film.
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8:30AM on 11/21/2012
I didn't hate nor love Superman Returns. I disliked the Superman 1 rehash with Lex and even still with Zack Snyders version, I want to see more vilians than what we have already seen. Granted I will go see Snyders version but again I am tired of the constant rehash like Amazing Spider-man was etc. That aside, while I do have gripes with Superman Returns, it was still fun to watch. Certainly shouldn't be as hated as it is but to each their own
I didn't hate nor love Superman Returns. I disliked the Superman 1 rehash with Lex and even still with Zack Snyders version, I want to see more vilians than what we have already seen. Granted I will go see Snyders version but again I am tired of the constant rehash like Amazing Spider-man was etc. That aside, while I do have gripes with Superman Returns, it was still fun to watch. Certainly shouldn't be as hated as it is but to each their own
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8:06AM on 11/21/2012
Haven't seen it, not interested in it. Never was, never will be. The original is the only for me. It is iconic to my childhood. I dressed as Superman for Halloween back in 1982, when I was 5 years old, and it was a very special moment for me. Movie wise, I feel the same for DC's other iconic property (although, Begins is pretty decent). I know this is an 'unpopular' idea, but hey, isn't that the point of the column?
Haven't seen it, not interested in it. Never was, never will be. The original is the only for me. It is iconic to my childhood. I dressed as Superman for Halloween back in 1982, when I was 5 years old, and it was a very special moment for me. Movie wise, I feel the same for DC's other iconic property (although, Begins is pretty decent). I know this is an 'unpopular' idea, but hey, isn't that the point of the column?
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7:59AM on 11/21/2012

Bosworth sucked as Lane but i still liked the movie

what was so bad about Bosworth? She was whiny, unsymphathtic and couldnt hold up a candle to Kidder's take on the character, the rest of the cast were a perfect fit though. Besides that this is an underrated film, i do think all Singer needed to do was put in a little action to hold the mainstream viewers till the sequel but he couldn't see the bigger picture and it ultimately doomed the series, i still think its great though.
what was so bad about Bosworth? She was whiny, unsymphathtic and couldnt hold up a candle to Kidder's take on the character, the rest of the cast were a perfect fit though. Besides that this is an underrated film, i do think all Singer needed to do was put in a little action to hold the mainstream viewers till the sequel but he couldn't see the bigger picture and it ultimately doomed the series, i still think its great though.
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7:58AM on 11/21/2012
Well, Supermann 1 and 2 are some of my favourites movie, growing up with them back then. However I couldnt warm up for Supermans return. I know it was meant to be a loveletter to Donners orginal work but it came of like l lackluster remake of the original, barely coming up with anything new, being underwhelming despite the large budget and all the talent in front or behind the camera. The subplot with Kals son seemed to be tacked on and the whole threat by Lex Luther (Kevin Spacey doesnt
Well, Supermann 1 and 2 are some of my favourites movie, growing up with them back then. However I couldnt warm up for Supermans return. I know it was meant to be a loveletter to Donners orginal work but it came of like l lackluster remake of the original, barely coming up with anything new, being underwhelming despite the large budget and all the talent in front or behind the camera. The subplot with Kals son seemed to be tacked on and the whole threat by Lex Luther (Kevin Spacey doesnt hold a candle to Gene Hackman) was a rehash of the first movies plot. Singer should have given Donners movies a nod (maybe in the title sequence) and should then done his one thing. trying to add new dimension to the superman myth. That could have been a great movie and not just nostalgic fanservice.
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7:43AM on 11/21/2012
I had goosebumps watching the credits at the start, the nostalgia and the fact that I was finally watching a Superman movie on the big screen. And I also loved the whole movie, although I have to admit there were a few plots points that I wasn't totally comfortable with. But Brandon Routh knocked it out of the park. When I think of Superman I see both him and Christopher Reeve in the iconic suit. Shame we won't get to see the real sequel.
I had goosebumps watching the credits at the start, the nostalgia and the fact that I was finally watching a Superman movie on the big screen. And I also loved the whole movie, although I have to admit there were a few plots points that I wasn't totally comfortable with. But Brandon Routh knocked it out of the park. When I think of Superman I see both him and Christopher Reeve in the iconic suit. Shame we won't get to see the real sequel.
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7:36AM on 11/21/2012

Unpopular backlash

I'll go ahead and argue that of all the reasons to like this movie, Keven Spacey isn't one of them for me. I think he can do great roles, but this felt like Bill Hader doing Kevin Spacey doing Lex Luthor. In fact, his Luthor feels like I'm watching his Buddy Ackerman role from Swimming with Sharks all over again.This is almost the same exact character he plays in 1994's Swimming with Sharks (an amazing indie flick that Horrible Bosses and The Devil Wears Prada should be paying royalties to,
I'll go ahead and argue that of all the reasons to like this movie, Keven Spacey isn't one of them for me. I think he can do great roles, but this felt like Bill Hader doing Kevin Spacey doing Lex Luthor. In fact, his Luthor feels like I'm watching his Buddy Ackerman role from Swimming with Sharks all over again.This is almost the same exact character he plays in 1994's Swimming with Sharks (an amazing indie flick that Horrible Bosses and The Devil Wears Prada should be paying royalties to, BTW). Lex Luthor isn't really a comic foil in print. Hackman got away with his folksy grifter because A) He's one of the best actors of the 20th Century B) It was such an unexpected left-turn at the time, C) he smartly is sympathetic to the audience who has a latent distrust and dislike of Superman's power and unwavering goodness and D) The was a strong tone of menace underneath the facade. Spacey's Luthor comes of as a petulant wannabe genius, who doesn't understand why he can't ever beat superman. He's almost like Skeletor in Masters of the Universe, who expects to beat He-Man a for he considers mentally inferior, but is always roundly defeated (and there is never any question that he'll lose). It doesn't help that Posey and company are relegated to playing stereotypical bumbling henchmen. If Luthor were so smart, would he be a better recruiter. I mean, shit, Bane hired better goons in The Dark Knight, and his only degree is from "Underground Dungeon Business School." Preparing for thumbs downs in 3... 2... 1...
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5:42AM on 11/21/2012
Thanks for this article, Alex. Science fiction adventures can have drama and dialogue such as Superman Returns has. Plenty of other films have done it successfully: Nolan's Batman movies, Raimi's Spider-Mans, Star Wars, Star Trek. Ang Lee's Hulk is not as successful for taking this approach. I liked Superman Returns. The film needs some defending.
Thanks for this article, Alex. Science fiction adventures can have drama and dialogue such as Superman Returns has. Plenty of other films have done it successfully: Nolan's Batman movies, Raimi's Spider-Mans, Star Wars, Star Trek. Ang Lee's Hulk is not as successful for taking this approach. I liked Superman Returns. The film needs some defending.
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4:41AM on 11/21/2012
I love it. It got good reviews overall and I think they still should have gone ahead with a sequel 2 years later. It would have caught on and been huge with Brandon Routh. I know Quentin Tarantino LOVES Superman Returns and has said that he wrote a 10 page review on it.
I love it. It got good reviews overall and I think they still should have gone ahead with a sequel 2 years later. It would have caught on and been huge with Brandon Routh. I know Quentin Tarantino LOVES Superman Returns and has said that he wrote a 10 page review on it.
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3:48AM on 11/21/2012

I buy many films, but only films that I feel are worth owning, and I own Superman Returns.

I actually liked it quite a bit. ☺
I actually liked it quite a bit. ☺
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3:41AM on 11/21/2012

THANK GOD

O.K. I get it. Batman Begins was dark and gritty and Christian Bale talked with a gruff voice and had a utility belt, I get it. But the biggest argument with Superman Returns was that Supes throws a big rock into space, a big rock the size of a small continent. Yeah I know stringing up a mob boss with wire is a big deal but the rock thing is just not a big deal. Go figure.
O.K. I get it. Batman Begins was dark and gritty and Christian Bale talked with a gruff voice and had a utility belt, I get it. But the biggest argument with Superman Returns was that Supes throws a big rock into space, a big rock the size of a small continent. Yeah I know stringing up a mob boss with wire is a big deal but the rock thing is just not a big deal. Go figure.
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2:45AM on 11/21/2012

Not that bad, but not every good either.

Truth be told, SUPERMAN RETURNS was not that bad. The problem is, everyone was expecting another Batman Begins (which released a year earlier) level of redefining reboot, instead what they got was a somewhat problematic *sequel* and throwback to a movie 26 years old (Superman II) while plainly ignoring the later ones. Brandon Routh was pitch-perfect as the new Man of Steel and its the one thing I'm sad about the current reboot is that he won't be returning. Spacey was also a treat to watch as
Truth be told, SUPERMAN RETURNS was not that bad. The problem is, everyone was expecting another Batman Begins (which released a year earlier) level of redefining reboot, instead what they got was a somewhat problematic *sequel* and throwback to a movie 26 years old (Superman II) while plainly ignoring the later ones. Brandon Routh was pitch-perfect as the new Man of Steel and its the one thing I'm sad about the current reboot is that he won't be returning. Spacey was also a treat to watch as the scenary chewing Luthor. Unfortunately most of the movie was rather slow paced, which felt even MORE after that spectacular plane-sequence at the beginning.

In my opinion there are THREE biggest problems the movie had: First and foremost, Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane, because yes, she was simply AWFUL in that role. We expected a spunky tough reporter who was full of life, instead all we got is a bitchy and morose Lois. Compared to her, Kidder (from I & ii) was much, much better, and even Erica Durance's Lane from Smallville, whose characterization can sometimes become really irritating, is much more exceptable. Second, the whole "Superman's Son" plot just didn't work AT ALL. Third, as you said, the ultimate plot of Luthor was very underwhelming. It was a complete rehash of his diabolical plan from Superman I.....Are you telling me as big a criminal genious as Lex Luthor is, all he's EVER interested is Real Estate?? Plus that big chunk of rock absolutely didn't look livable. All of these problems just made the movie unable to reach the expectations.

Still, purely because of the charishmatic lead and devilishly fun Spacey, even today I can easily kill 2 hours rewatching it on TV if I have nothing better to do. Its just not on the same league as Batman Begins or Superman I & II as everyone thought it would be.
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2:20AM on 11/21/2012

The direction

fell flat. The climax of the movie was Superman carrying a big rock into space. Having grown up in the eighties and having remembered the excitement of watching a space shuttle launch to see Superman slowly lift a rock seemed like a missed opportunity. Take a look at Apollo 13 and see how exciting the lift off scene was.
fell flat. The climax of the movie was Superman carrying a big rock into space. Having grown up in the eighties and having remembered the excitement of watching a space shuttle launch to see Superman slowly lift a rock seemed like a missed opportunity. Take a look at Apollo 13 and see how exciting the lift off scene was.
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2:00AM on 11/21/2012
I love Superman Returns and it is one of the comic book movies I enjoy more than the rest. Superman Returns really made you feel the spirit of Superman and made you feel why he is such an iconic superhero. The story was good and visually the movie was stunning and brilliant. The airplane scene and any scene of him flying through the sky was beautiful to watch. I still enjoy every second of this movie today and am sadly disappointed we never saw a sequel.

But as much as I enjoyed Superman
I love Superman Returns and it is one of the comic book movies I enjoy more than the rest. Superman Returns really made you feel the spirit of Superman and made you feel why he is such an iconic superhero. The story was good and visually the movie was stunning and brilliant. The airplane scene and any scene of him flying through the sky was beautiful to watch. I still enjoy every second of this movie today and am sadly disappointed we never saw a sequel.

But as much as I enjoyed Superman Returns, I think Man of Steel is going to easily be the definitive Superman film that we Superman fans deserve. And everything we have seen and heard from the film looks great. It's time that Superman take hold of the reigns again of being the greatest superhero we have ever seen.
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3:56AM on 11/22/2012
You liked Green Lantern, enough said.
You liked Green Lantern, enough said.
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1:43AM on 11/21/2012

Interesting article

I think I liked it less than you but it still had some good parts:

The good:
- Brandon Routh: I don't think anyone expected him to be a convincing choice for the part after Reeve but I think he proved himself just fine. I would have been okay with him coming back for another turn as Supes.
- Frank Langella: He delivers.
- Special FX: Singer's films are always good in this regard. He has quality computer animators.

The bad:
- Kate Bosworth: Felt wrong for the part of Lois, and it
I think I liked it less than you but it still had some good parts:

The good:
- Brandon Routh: I don't think anyone expected him to be a convincing choice for the part after Reeve but I think he proved himself just fine. I would have been okay with him coming back for another turn as Supes.
- Frank Langella: He delivers.
- Special FX: Singer's films are always good in this regard. He has quality computer animators.

The bad:
- Kate Bosworth: Felt wrong for the part of Lois, and it showed.
- Kevin Spacey: My biggest disagreement with you. Of course we all love Spacey but watching this, I never got the sense of menace I thought I should be feeling when seeing his plan unfold. He didn't come across as imposing nor cunning, and it seems the worst he could actually throw as Supes were his three dopey goons (it's hard to take it seriously when Kumar is beating up Superman).
- Luthor's island: You hit the nail on the head there. Terrible plot. Seems kinda pointless. Plus despite being in direct contact with the kryptonite embedded in the rock, Supes didn't seem to have much of a problem getting rid of it after all.
- Superkid: Worst bit of the film.

I don't know what they have planned for Man of Steel, and beyond. But here's hoping Lex Luthor (and Zod) are not the only villains WB are forever willing to use in Superman movies. Lex has been the heavy for five movies in a row. Superman has a large rogues gallery of villains to go up against. It's someone else's turn already.
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1:35AM on 11/21/2012

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Good write up, Alex, as always. However, I'm of the opposite on this. The problem I had with this film is that it's like a giant handjob to Richard Donner. It's not an original movie to me, but rather what Donner would have made if given the chance to make another Superman. Singer aped every single aspect of Donner's work, to which he admits, "Wow, I want to make a romantic movie that harkens back to the Richard Donner movie that I loved so much.' And that's what I did."
If people love it
Good write up, Alex, as always. However, I'm of the opposite on this. The problem I had with this film is that it's like a giant handjob to Richard Donner. It's not an original movie to me, but rather what Donner would have made if given the chance to make another Superman. Singer aped every single aspect of Donner's work, to which he admits, "Wow, I want to make a romantic movie that harkens back to the Richard Donner movie that I loved so much.' And that's what I did."
If people love it for the throwback to the Donner stuff, then that's cool, but as long as they recognize that that's all it is. For me, it was another link in the chain of Superman's plight onscreen. They just don't let him grow or show his full potential. He's stuck in 1978.
As for action. It was weak sauce. The airplane rescue was the best sequence of the film. If it were on today, I'd stop watching after that part. Superman lays no punches and has no throwdown worthy enough to make me root for him. Instead, it's like watching a fight on pay per view where your guy is losing and you're yelling at him to get up and do SOMETHING. And if you make it all the way to the end, the only action you get is Superman hurling a giant rock into space.
The first two films are great and should be left alone as such. If Superman is ever going to matter again, it's got to be different than the Donner/Reeve films. I hope that Zack Snyder defies every tradition set by the Donner era with Man of Steel. I want 300 meets Watchmen meets Superman.
Again, good write up, bro! I love the way this column riles folks up! Good shit!
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4:55AM on 11/21/2012
Agree completely re: the Richard Donner comment. It really did feel like a love letter to Donner (and of course, Tom Mankiewicz, whom Singer is on record as wanting to honour as the writer who brought the emotional depth to the original Superman flick after Mario Puzo's original draft). And going so far as to lift lines wholesale from the first film and transplant them was a bit on the nose for me.

One of the things that hasn't come up was the intention of Superman Returns to be the story of
Agree completely re: the Richard Donner comment. It really did feel like a love letter to Donner (and of course, Tom Mankiewicz, whom Singer is on record as wanting to honour as the writer who brought the emotional depth to the original Superman flick after Mario Puzo's original draft). And going so far as to lift lines wholesale from the first film and transplant them was a bit on the nose for me.

One of the things that hasn't come up was the intention of Superman Returns to be the story of when a messiah returns. There's a fascinating interview out there where Bryan Singer discusses the "Judeo-Christian allegory" of Superman and how he wanted to tell underpin the story with that element... figured it's worth mentioning because it might be worth considering whether the movie succeeds or fails on those terms. If you doubt this is true, think about the parallels Singer built in to Christ... the torture in the garden at Gethsemane (getting beaten up by Kumar & the boys!) the solider's spear in his side (Luthor and the K Shiv), the fall from the sky in the obvious Christ pose (Singer admitted that wasn't accidental), and the three days he is down before he rises again. That last one is a presumption on my part, as the movie doesn't specify the timeframe, but it does kind of fit. The movie is perhaps more layered than people give it credit for.

Overall, I'm coming down on the side of it being a decent flick, with some fundamental problems (Lois should look like a real woman, not an underfed waif... Lex Luthor should be more imposing and not court the company of fools... and, of course, giant rock!)

So yeah... sorry to prattle on. I love Superman, and this was a great article, with some great retorts and counterpoints. Love this site!!
7:19AM on 11/21/2012
Just the comic foil tone of Luthor and his henchmen alone casts the movie in such a derivative light. While Spacey's frustrated genius does not have Hackman's used car salesman energy, the antagonists are clearly not up to the task, provide almost all of the comic relief, and never create a convincing threat. With Superman himself being so limiting in terms of personality and tone, you've got to look at the margins to stake your own flag. Singer created an unessential entry into the franchise.
Just the comic foil tone of Luthor and his henchmen alone casts the movie in such a derivative light. While Spacey's frustrated genius does not have Hackman's used car salesman energy, the antagonists are clearly not up to the task, provide almost all of the comic relief, and never create a convincing threat. With Superman himself being so limiting in terms of personality and tone, you've got to look at the margins to stake your own flag. Singer created an unessential entry into the franchise. I'd argue that The Amazing Spiderman has the same problem. Tere's nothing wrong with it, it just just never makes a strong case for its own existence.
10:05AM on 11/21/2012
@smoove, I think you've got the pulse of the problem. Superman Returns isn't a poorly made film, it's just kind of a "meh" in terms of being something special. And I agree completely on The Amazing Spider-Man. It's well-acted and well-shot, but it does nothing to make it something special, try as they did.

@oldhaunts, I remember reading the Judea-Christian stuff that Singer intended and I think it's another nail in the coffin for why Superman Returns is such misguided film. Singer, in
@smoove, I think you've got the pulse of the problem. Superman Returns isn't a poorly made film, it's just kind of a "meh" in terms of being something special. And I agree completely on The Amazing Spider-Man. It's well-acted and well-shot, but it does nothing to make it something special, try as they did.

@oldhaunts, I remember reading the Judea-Christian stuff that Singer intended and I think it's another nail in the coffin for why Superman Returns is such misguided film. Singer, in the end, was the wrong person to make this film. His intent and his vision were in another place, foregoing the comic lore and mythology for a Richard Donner tribute film with metaphorical significance. Superman Returns is the twin brother to Ang Lee's Hulk.

Good comments, guys!
12:10PM on 11/21/2012
I agree completely with all of these comments. Having the film be a homage to Richard Donner's films (while a sweet idea) was a mistake. Say what you will about what Zack Snyder may or may not do with Superman in his film, at least it'll be something different and take advantage of today's effects. Superman is capable of feats that Richard Donner would never have been able to achieve on screen. He could rip a building out of the ground and use it as a club! The possibilities are endless. I
I agree completely with all of these comments. Having the film be a homage to Richard Donner's films (while a sweet idea) was a mistake. Say what you will about what Zack Snyder may or may not do with Superman in his film, at least it'll be something different and take advantage of today's effects. Superman is capable of feats that Richard Donner would never have been able to achieve on screen. He could rip a building out of the ground and use it as a club! The possibilities are endless. I worry though that Superman Returns should have been the film that "re-invented" Superman for a modern audience and that Man of Steel may suffer as a result. I guess we'll see next year.
1:25AM on 11/21/2012
I was surprised that Superman Returns didn't do so well at the box office. I love this movie and feel it's very underrated. Routh did a great job as Superman but Bosworth was miscast. I hope the new Man of Steel would perform great.
I was surprised that Superman Returns didn't do so well at the box office. I love this movie and feel it's very underrated. Routh did a great job as Superman but Bosworth was miscast. I hope the new Man of Steel would perform great.
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1:20AM on 11/21/2012
Spacey was spot-on, the airship scene was pure awesome to the Nth degree, the rest was ass
Spacey was spot-on, the airship scene was pure awesome to the Nth degree, the rest was ass
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1:10AM on 11/21/2012
I liked Superman Returns a whole lot. Yes, it was a little overly reverential and a little slavish to the Christopher Reeve films (the first two in particular), but I think it really got the spirit of Superman, and it was a rich and atmospheric film that didn't make Superman look out of place in a contemporary setting. Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor was marvellous, though I didn't like Kate Bosworth as she was too flat and looked too young, she didn't seem plucky enough to be a good Lois. On the
I liked Superman Returns a whole lot. Yes, it was a little overly reverential and a little slavish to the Christopher Reeve films (the first two in particular), but I think it really got the spirit of Superman, and it was a rich and atmospheric film that didn't make Superman look out of place in a contemporary setting. Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor was marvellous, though I didn't like Kate Bosworth as she was too flat and looked too young, she didn't seem plucky enough to be a good Lois. On the whole though, I was eagerly awaiting a sequel because I thought that Superman Returns had set the groundwork really well for a nice big action-packed follow-up, and while I still am looking forward to the Man of Steel, I haven't completely gotten over my disappointment that it won't be a sequel to Returns.
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