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Vin Diesel and David Twohy on the mythology from The Chronicles of Riddick and future films

Aug. 20, 2013by: Jesse Giroux
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Vin Diesel is back as Richard B. Riddick in a few weeks, but that probably won't be the last time we see the character on the big screen. Although the films from THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK series have never been huge blockbusters, the movies do have a very loyal following who are quite anxious for more adventures with the titular character.

SFX spoke with Vin Diesel and director David Twohy recently, and they talked about how they had to alter their plans for Riddick and future films with the antihero. They revealed that originally THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK was suppose to be the first film in a trilogy (Diesel says, "Think of Pitch Black as The Hobbit to The Lord Of The Rings"), and that movie introduced elements that would have been used in the next installment, such as the Underverse and Riddick's homeworld Furya. That idea hasn't been scrapped, but they did have to change it since THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK didn't do as well as expected in theaters.

Here's what David Twhoy had to say:

At its core [RIDDICK] is a survival story about one man, and his only way to get off this planet is to call in the mercenaries for a ride. That said, we don’t turn our backs on the mythology that we planted in the last movie, and we are actually bringing Karl [Urban] back for a  few days of filming to advance it and lay the groundwork for movie four. We’re concerned with paying off the loyal fans and think that if somebody doesn’t understand something the solution is to look at the other two movies and get up to speed. It does play in a gratifying way as a standalone movie, but there are threads that we continue to sew that we started in previous movies and will continue in future movies.

Vin Diesel goes on to talk about what we should expect to see in a fourth Riddick film:

You’ve got to go to the Underverse. t’s expected, it’s something I firmly believe. You’ll have to go through the Underverse to get to Furya. So, those are the two further stories that are mapped out. The Underverse is a much more costly venture. We went this direction, trying to do an R-rated movie, which is cool and even more interesting because it’s so unexpected. But yes, you will be at the Underverse and you will be at Furya sooner or later.

There are two things we should talk about that could impact a future film: the rating for it and if RIDDICK performs well in theaters. PITCH BLACK and RIDDICK both carry R-ratings and the budgets were low enough ($23 and $38 million) that they weren't huge risks. THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK however, was PG-13, cost between $105 and $120 million and only grossed $57 million domestically, although it did very well with DVD sales.

If Vin Diesel and David Twohy want to explore more of the science-fiction mythology from the series, it sounds like they'll need a budget closer to THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK, which probably means a PG-13 rating. But (and this is a huge but) if RIDDICK makes a ton of cash, they might be able to convince the studio to allow them to have an R-rating for the next film while also having a significantly higher budget. I'm not saying that if a future film is rated PG-13 it'll suck, but I'm pretty sure most fans don't want to see a violent character the love handcuffed by a rating.

RIDDICK opens on September 6th, 2013.

Extra Tidbit: You down with a fourth Riddick and their plans for it? I know some fans were turned off by the sci-fi mythos in THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK, but I like this little universe Vin Diesel has created.
Source: SFX

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6:21AM on 08/21/2013
If I recall right, my first Vin Diesel movie was Pitch Black - loved the movie...loved the character of Riddick...became a big Vin Diesel fan. The Fast and Furious cemented my adoration for him (I'll even defend xXx even though I was disappointed big time). I'm so glad he's back on track...in no small part to the revived Fast and the Furious series. I went in to The Chronicles of Riddick massively over expecting, because of Pitch Black but also because of the very excellent The Chronicles of
If I recall right, my first Vin Diesel movie was Pitch Black - loved the movie...loved the character of Riddick...became a big Vin Diesel fan. The Fast and Furious cemented my adoration for him (I'll even defend xXx even though I was disappointed big time). I'm so glad he's back on track...in no small part to the revived Fast and the Furious series. I went in to The Chronicles of Riddick massively over expecting, because of Pitch Black but also because of the very excellent The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury animated movie that was released in the build up of it - needles to say, I was left very disappointed. Still, thought the character was very cool as was the mythology that was delved in to. Riddick has a long way to go to reach the status of say Terminator / Aliens / Predator but I would love for it to reach that kind of level. Alas, for it to do so, think it needs to maintain its hardcore rating...and for that reason, will probably never reach the level of those franchises - same reason Dredd won't be the success it should be - definitely one of the better comic book movies of recent years.
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11:22AM on 08/20/2013
Im a huge fan of Pitch Black and liked a lot of what they did in Chronicles. Im confident Riddick can make a profit but I dont think itll justify a tentpole fourth. A smaller scale adventure with a decent budget could do well though they might have to wrap it up at 4. Lately, if its not starring an established superhero/character base (see Into Darkness and Iron Man), its not grossing (see Oblivion and Elysium). Im just glad they got this far and took this approach with Riddick.
Im a huge fan of Pitch Black and liked a lot of what they did in Chronicles. Im confident Riddick can make a profit but I dont think itll justify a tentpole fourth. A smaller scale adventure with a decent budget could do well though they might have to wrap it up at 4. Lately, if its not starring an established superhero/character base (see Into Darkness and Iron Man), its not grossing (see Oblivion and Elysium). Im just glad they got this far and took this approach with Riddick.
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12:00PM on 08/20/2013
Pretty sure Oblivion was a success, and Elysium still has some major markets to open in.
Pretty sure Oblivion was a success, and Elysium still has some major markets to open in.
4:49PM on 08/20/2013
when all was said and done, domestically that is, Oblivion only made back 75% of its budget. It caught up overseas, but thats really not enough these days (see the Golden Compass and the doubts around another Pacific Rim)
when all was said and done, domestically that is, Oblivion only made back 75% of its budget. It caught up overseas, but thats really not enough these days (see the Golden Compass and the doubts around another Pacific Rim)
11:18AM on 08/20/2013
It's a good movie. It's closer in tone to Pitch Black and the whole film is set on the one planet, with Riddick outwitting two rival gangs of mercenaries who have come to collect the bounty on his head. I didn't mind The Chronicles of Riddick, but in going a more "space opera" route, it did deviate from the sci fi suspense thriller aspect that made Pitch Black such a good film, so I'm glad Riddick turned out the way it did.
It's a good movie. It's closer in tone to Pitch Black and the whole film is set on the one planet, with Riddick outwitting two rival gangs of mercenaries who have come to collect the bounty on his head. I didn't mind The Chronicles of Riddick, but in going a more "space opera" route, it did deviate from the sci fi suspense thriller aspect that made Pitch Black such a good film, so I'm glad Riddick turned out the way it did.
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4:22AM on 08/21/2013
Honestly, for me it felt too much like Pitch Black, and the way the creatures appear in Riddick to me felt really cheesy...I really liked Pitch Black, but feel that it probably should have ended there.
Honestly, for me it felt too much like Pitch Black, and the way the creatures appear in Riddick to me felt really cheesy...I really liked Pitch Black, but feel that it probably should have ended there.
10:59AM on 08/20/2013
Excited for Riddick. I give Diesel alot of credit for actually achieving his goal and delivering us a third Riddick film.
Excited for Riddick. I give Diesel alot of credit for actually achieving his goal and delivering us a third Riddick film.
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10:49AM on 08/20/2013

Depends on the third

If you took Pitch Black, First Blood with a dash of Predator, that's pretty much the Wolverine movie I wish could get made.
If you took Pitch Black, First Blood with a dash of Predator, that's pretty much the Wolverine movie I wish could get made.
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10:38AM on 08/20/2013
I'm a huge fan of the series. I'll take whatever I can get.
I'm a huge fan of the series. I'll take whatever I can get.
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