Zack And Miri NC-17

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by: Daniel Barna Jul. 24, 2008

Ladies and gentlemen, the MPAA does it again. Kevin Smith's latest ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO has received the ratings kiss of death. NC-17. The reason? "Some graphic sexuality." So let me get this straight. In the last year onscreen I have seen women raped, heads blown to bits, limbs removed from bodies and Ryan Reynolds attempt to act. Yet somehow, a low-budget comedy that I will assume deals with sex comically and realistically is forbidden to those with an untrained eye. Now the overwhleming task lies on the shoulders of one Kevin Smith to chop this film all the way to an R rating and make it commercially viable. Goddamn I love Hollywood.

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Extra Tidbit: GRINDHOUSE was orginally rated NC-17 but was chopped up to obtain an R rating. We all know how that turned out.

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Vong
1:10AM on 07/25/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Please stop making news stories a soap-box for your opinions on movies/actors...we don't care what you think about them, but we do care when it's brought up for no other apparent reason than to get people angry.
Please stop making news stories a soap-box for your opinions on movies/actors...we don't care what you think about them, but we do care when it's brought up for no other apparent reason than to get people angry.
 
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KcMsterpce
10:12PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
dvd makes ratings kinda pointless anyway
Every movie gets "Unrated" editions these days, so it's not as big a deal to have movies cut for theatrical release like 10 years ago when VHS was still dominant, and there weren't as many "Director's Cuts" or one of the 1000 other alternate versions easily available.
Every movie gets "Unrated" editions these days, so it's not as big a deal to have movies cut for theatrical release like 10 years ago when VHS was still dominant, and there weren't as many "Director's Cuts" or one of the 1000 other alternate versions easily available.
 
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nc_seventeen
9:58PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Ryan Reynolds CAN ACT
Did you even SEE The Nines?
Did you even SEE The Nines?
 
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anomaly7
9:08PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Why is it okay for stores to sell "Unrated" DVD's, but movies in theaters have to be rated? All unrated really means is they haven't been submitted to the MPAA, so why can't a movie going to theaters do that? Either way, the system is bogus.
Why is it okay for stores to sell "Unrated" DVD's, but movies in theaters have to be rated? All unrated really means is they haven't been submitted to the MPAA, so why can't a movie going to theaters do that? Either way, the system is bogus.
 
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thebrodyman
7:27PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Lame
Hey hey hey, I like Ryan Reynolds!

I think it is a bit ridiculous that this is getting an NC-17, when these dime-a-dozen horror movies can have graphic violence, nudity, and much more, and they gets R's. I mean you can even have mass violence in PG-13 movie now-a-days. I just think the MPAA as a whole is pretty bogus.
Hey hey hey, I like Ryan Reynolds!

I think it is a bit ridiculous that this is getting an NC-17, when these dime-a-dozen horror movies can have graphic violence, nudity, and much more, and they gets R's. I mean you can even have mass violence in PG-13 movie now-a-days. I just think the MPAA as a whole is pretty bogus.
 
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Crazy Dud
7:03PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The MPAA, ever since I can remember, has always been much more strict when rating low budget and/or independent films, but much more lenient on big budget studio films that need a certain rating to make their money back.

Basically, if the MPAA applied the same standards to EVERY film, could not be bought, and if all theaters would show movies of any rating (other than porn), ther...
The MPAA, ever since I can remember, has always been much more strict when rating low budget and/or independent films, but much more lenient on big budget studio films that need a certain rating to make their money back.

Basically, if the MPAA applied the same standards to EVERY film, could not be bought, and if all theaters would show movies of any rating (other than porn), there would be far less reason to complain about the MPAA.
 
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Jaybro7
4:37PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Thisis bullshit. Rambo had bodies torn in half, women getting raped, little boys getting abused, KIDS getting blown up with limbs, heads and intestines thrown about. But this is N7-17? I know its prob cuz Porno is in the title. Whatev
Thisis bullshit. Rambo had bodies torn in half, women getting raped, little boys getting abused, KIDS getting blown up with limbs, heads and intestines thrown about. But this is N7-17? I know its prob cuz Porno is in the title. Whatev
 
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HoyleHaw
4:19PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I heard Grindhouse didn't have problems, which surprised the hell out of the filmmakers. Then again, maybe they pre-emptively cut the film.

Personally, I think since Smith is not stranger to the MPAA, and this thing is a comedy about porn, they oughta just keep the NC-17(or unrated) and make a huge viral campaign so people still turn out to see it.

And this coming ...
I heard Grindhouse didn't have problems, which surprised the hell out of the filmmakers. Then again, maybe they pre-emptively cut the film.

Personally, I think since Smith is not stranger to the MPAA, and this thing is a comedy about porn, they oughta just keep the NC-17(or unrated) and make a huge viral campaign so people still turn out to see it.

And this coming from a guy living in the so-called Bible Belt.
 
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Frosty_86
3:40PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Kevin Smith should pull a Michael Bay and get Stephen Speilberg to use his awesome powers to protest the rating and get it changed to R without anything major changing. I swear I think they dont like Kevin and its probably the fact porno is in the title
Kevin Smith should pull a Michael Bay and get Stephen Speilberg to use his awesome powers to protest the rating and get it changed to R without anything major changing. I swear I think they dont like Kevin and its probably the fact porno is in the title
 
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The Bodyguard
3:29PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
If this remains NC-17, I won't be able to see it till DVD. No theater around here will touch it, Bible Belt and all and I am deep in it.
If this remains NC-17, I won't be able to see it till DVD. No theater around here will touch it, Bible Belt and all and I am deep in it.
 
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PuffCity
3:05PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Ryan Reynolds can act better than most

Doesn't matter what the rating is, it's not like Kevin Smith movies are commercially viable
Ryan Reynolds can act better than most

Doesn't matter what the rating is, it's not like Kevin Smith movies are commercially viable
 
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phat magik
2:50PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Yawn?
And the "fans" come out of the wood work! Gotta love it when people like scottistops come out to shake a wagging finger in our faces and remind us Smith isn't Scorsese.
And the "fans" come out of the wood work! Gotta love it when people like scottistops come out to shake a wagging finger in our faces and remind us Smith isn't Scorsese.
 
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steveistops
1:45PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
yawn.
this isn't like it's the first time smith has had to cut a film down from an nc-17... if i'm correct, the only film to get by on first review with an R was clerks 2 (other than jersey girl, of course). if i'm wrong... eh, there are worse things to be wrong about.

i'm sure that, regardless of the cuts, smith's legion of internet sycophants will love every frame that remains intact...
this isn't like it's the first time smith has had to cut a film down from an nc-17... if i'm correct, the only film to get by on first review with an R was clerks 2 (other than jersey girl, of course). if i'm wrong... eh, there are worse things to be wrong about.

i'm sure that, regardless of the cuts, smith's legion of internet sycophants will love every frame that remains intact in theaters, regardless of the actual quality of the film. and c'mon, it's not like he's going to forgo for the self-indulgent unrated 2-disc director's cut blah blah blah DVD set he does for every one of his movies. hopefully this one has the "scott mosier brushes his teeth!" special feature - i've been waiting with baited breath for that one, let me tell you!

by the way, are you proposing that "grindhouse" failed because it had to have cuts made and, therefore, WASN'T longer? i thought the 3 hour running time was the primary deterrent for people going to see it... other than it having an extremely niche audience, of course. still, what a blast of a film!
 
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BarryShaft
1:25PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Yeah it matters DarkElfa because theatre chains won't carry films with an NC-17 rating so essentially this is the death knell for the film. 12 minutes of cuts is one hell of a lot.
Yeah it matters DarkElfa because theatre chains won't carry films with an NC-17 rating so essentially this is the death knell for the film. 12 minutes of cuts is one hell of a lot.
 
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RideTheExpress
1:16PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Not so fast
The appeal screening isn't until August 4th, and Kevin has already said that whether through winning the appeal or through cuts this film will be rated R. He stated in Smodcast that he has cut 12 minutes for the appeal screening, but if they should lose the appeal then more cuts will have to be made sadly.
The appeal screening isn't until August 4th, and Kevin has already said that whether through winning the appeal or through cuts this film will be rated R. He stated in Smodcast that he has cut 12 minutes for the appeal screening, but if they should lose the appeal then more cuts will have to be made sadly.
 
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DarkElfa
1:15PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Does it really matter? Aren't most of his fans in their 20's and 30's anyways and we aren't about to care now, nor have we ever cared about a film's rating, so whats the big deal?
Does it really matter? Aren't most of his fans in their 20's and 30's anyways and we aren't about to care now, nor have we ever cared about a film's rating, so whats the big deal?
 
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The Wombat
1:07PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
MPAA vs. Kevin Smith
I'm pretty sure the MPAA just hates Kevin Smith. He claimed that Clerks was originally rated NC-17, and, without cutting anything, all it took to get it to an R was a phone call from Harvey Weinstein. Ever since then, the MPAA have been total assholes, giving Smith no leeway at all and being strict as shit.

If Hollywood wants to submit to a ratings system, they should at least ...
I'm pretty sure the MPAA just hates Kevin Smith. He claimed that Clerks was originally rated NC-17, and, without cutting anything, all it took to get it to an R was a phone call from Harvey Weinstein. Ever since then, the MPAA have been total assholes, giving Smith no leeway at all and being strict as shit.

If Hollywood wants to submit to a ratings system, they should at least have a board that monitors the group's ratings. They are unchecked and have an alarming amount of power without having to be held accountable for it's misuse.
 
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queen.cynthia
12:33PM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Just remember what the MPAA says. . .
Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!

Or in this case, images.
Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!

Or in this case, images.
 
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Lucky Denver
11:35AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Such crap
I'm now going to be worried when this movie gets cut down to R rated because of how much shit had to be taken out. A part of me just wants smith to say FUCK IT and go to DVD so he doesn't have to slash the film but I doubt that would happen.
I'm now going to be worried when this movie gets cut down to R rated because of how much shit had to be taken out. A part of me just wants smith to say FUCK IT and go to DVD so he doesn't have to slash the film but I doubt that would happen.
 
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aronnyc
11:25AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I still don't understand why filmmakers submit to the ratings system. They should boycott it until a more transparent institution is in place.
I still don't understand why filmmakers submit to the ratings system. They should boycott it until a more transparent institution is in place.
 
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shaolinfunk
11:21AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Dumb.

I swear, they need to get their shit together and come up with a consistent rating system.

But then again, this might be good. Let' see...Elizabeth Banks in a movie that's rated NC-17? That makes my loins hum just a little.
Dumb.

I swear, they need to get their shit together and come up with a consistent rating system.

But then again, this might be good. Let' see...Elizabeth Banks in a movie that's rated NC-17? That makes my loins hum just a little.
 
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FNDanny
11:16AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Bulllsh....
But we can see a Saw movie every year that will find new ways to mutilate people. What a world we live in.
But we can see a Saw movie every year that will find new ways to mutilate people. What a world we live in.
 
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beatrixkiddo
10:53AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
yeah the standards are all f*cked up.

I'd much rather see a full on gang bang than a child being raped and murdered.

I think that's a tad more offensive.
yeah the standards are all f*cked up.

I'd much rather see a full on gang bang than a child being raped and murdered.

I think that's a tad more offensive.
 
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tlm2021
9:44AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
He should re-cut back up
Yeah, I heard the SModcast comment that this is as far as he'd cut it down, since this is the 3rd cut. I think that now that he's getting an NC-17 anyway, he should put back all the shit he's been editing out over the last few weeks.
Yeah, I heard the SModcast comment that this is as far as he'd cut it down, since this is the 3rd cut. I think that now that he's getting an NC-17 anyway, he should put back all the shit he's been editing out over the last few weeks.
 
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ElderPredator
9:13AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
???
So raping a young girl in a trailer while shooting her mother in the stomach from "The Hills Have Eyes" is better than some sexual comedy in a low-budget film? Wow....
So raping a young girl in a trailer while shooting her mother in the stomach from "The Hills Have Eyes" is better than some sexual comedy in a low-budget film? Wow....
 
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SniperXtreme
9:08AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Not cutting it
Smith said in the latest SMODCAST that he won't be cutting it any further and will accept the NC-17.
Smith said in the latest SMODCAST that he won't be cutting it any further and will accept the NC-17.
 
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SeymourClearly
8:56AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The MPAA are a bunch of ass raping tools who have no idea what the hell they are doing. What the hell has happened to America?
The MPAA are a bunch of ass raping tools who have no idea what the hell they are doing. What the hell has happened to America?
 
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avoidz
8:50AM on 07/24/2008 Add as a friend | MFC profile
God bless America... Sex is worse than bloody deaths and ultra-violence. Hmm.
God bless America... Sex is worse than bloody deaths and ultra-violence. Hmm.
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