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Movie Jail: This week's defendant is...Michael Bay!

Oct. 15, 2012by: Johnny Moreno

Welcome to Movie Jail, a facility like any other, only its inmates are Hollywood writers, directors, actors and producers. This column will serve as a Movie Jail trial. We will put one defendant on trial; lay out arguments for the Prosecution and Defense. And we leave it up to YOU, the reader, to decide whether the defendant is guilty of his or her crime. What crime? The crime of consistently being a stinking shithouse.

The Defendant


Michael Bay

The Case

The Prosecution: Pearl Harbor, The Island, the Transformers trilogy, producer of many awful projects*

Ladies and gentleman of the jury, just look at that smug face. Is that not one of the most slappable faces in history? This is only icing on the cake for a man who's polluted cinemas around the world for the past five years or so. Let the record show, the prosecution is not saying that these movies aren't hugely successful at the box office and massive with audiences, but they do lack integrity. The prosecution makes no apology for having a standard of what makes an acceptable action movie, and that doesn't include swiss cheese style plot holes and sequences so loud Felix Baumgartner could hear it from 128,000 ft in space. Sure, we grew up in the era of Arnold and Sly where blowing shit up was not only a stylistic choice, but mandatory. Mr. Bay has not only taken that style to the extreme, but he's crammed so much visual and audio stimuli into his films, he's forgotten the ingredient that makes a movie what it is: story. Not to mention his producing credits include the lackluster remakes of The Amityville Horror, The Hitcher, and A Nightmare on Elm Street. Accept mediocrity, don't complain when the quality of movies that follow is less than that. Plus, look at his dumb hair.

The Defense: The Rock, Bad Boys I & II, Armaggedon, the Transformers trilogy*

Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, is the prosecution seriously complaining that something is "too loud"? If the criteria for a prosecution's charge is that something is "too loud", perhaps the prosecution should retire and watch silent movies with the rest of the old cacklin hens. It's not often that the we use the prosecution's charge for our own defense (the Transformers Trilogy), but in this case, we absolutely have to. What better director in Hollywood could've pulled off the epic scale and action of these movies than Mr. Bay? He took a property that millions of fans grew up with and made a mostly faithful, entertaining trilogy of films that were successful, both financially and in the fan community. These movies weren't made for critics, they were made for fans and the fans ate it up. Yeah, if you look at Mr. Bay's Rotten Tomatoes page, you'd see his movies don't bode well with critics, (his only "fresh" rating being The Rock), but every movie he's directed has a positive audience rating on that site. He's not a critics darling, and from what we can tell, he has no interest in being one. He directs movies that will make fat paper (his only financial "bomb" was 2005's The Island [source here]) and they always end up as audience favorites. What more could you ask for? Great f*cking hair? DONE.


IN CLOSING...

So, whats to be done with Mr. Michael Bay? Should we not accept, as the prosecution states, "mediocrity" when it comes to our action movies, and set our standards a bit higher? Is making movies for the fans such a big crime, even if they aren't critically praised but loved by audiences and financially successful? And the most important question to be asked, once all evidence is taken into consideration, we ask you The Jury, is Michael Bay GUILTY or NOT GUILTY? Lets hear YOUR arguments, either side, by STRIKING BACK BELOW.

*The court recognizes that all movies are subjective, so relax.

WHAT SAY YOU, GUILTY OR NOT?


LAST WEEK'S VERDICT

It is the jury's decision that after reviewing last week's evidence, the court finds Mr. Wes NOT GUILTY of all charges. The consensus is that Mr. Craven's output is not only good or great, but legendary for the genre. The jury can forgive his recent slumps as the majority of horror films owe a great deal of gratitude to the man for his vision and originality.

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3:25AM on 10/22/2012

wow...

tough one. Just on Transformers 2 and 3 I'd say guilty. But then he has TF1, Bad Boys, The Rock and Armageddon, 5 movies I can watch repeatedly. Yes they are empty, but they are also a helluva lot of fun. Besides, the guy always has hot women in hid flicks. I begrudgingly say not guilty.
tough one. Just on Transformers 2 and 3 I'd say guilty. But then he has TF1, Bad Boys, The Rock and Armageddon, 5 movies I can watch repeatedly. Yes they are empty, but they are also a helluva lot of fun. Besides, the guy always has hot women in hid flicks. I begrudgingly say not guilty.
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6:02PM on 10/17/2012

Not Guilty, but barely.

Out of his 9 movies so far, I've only liked 5 (Bad Boys I & II, The Rock, The Island, & Transformers !)
Out of his 9 movies so far, I've only liked 5 (Bad Boys I & II, The Rock, The Island, & Transformers !)
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11:41PM on 10/16/2012

The Osama bin Laden of the film industry.

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10:38PM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

I say next up should be M. Night Shyamalan.
I say next up should be M. Night Shyamalan.
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7:28PM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

After reading the article I realized I dont like anything he's done. Except maybe the Island. I do think that his films are damn good looking. But the stories, IMO, suck out loud. Sure makes a lot of money though but this is about art right? Soul? Then this Dude's guilty for dumbing down movies and, theoretically, audiences.
After reading the article I realized I dont like anything he's done. Except maybe the Island. I do think that his films are damn good looking. But the stories, IMO, suck out loud. Sure makes a lot of money though but this is about art right? Soul? Then this Dude's guilty for dumbing down movies and, theoretically, audiences.
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6:40PM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

He is AWESOME.

Edit: sorry for the double post. For some reason when I hit refresh my last comment gets reposted :/
He is AWESOME.

Edit: sorry for the double post. For some reason when I hit refresh my last comment gets reposted :/
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6:35PM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

He is AWESOME.
He is AWESOME.
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4:41PM on 10/16/2012
He's guilty of making shitty movies & I'm guilty of enjoying some of them. *hangs head in shame*
He's guilty of making shitty movies & I'm guilty of enjoying some of them. *hangs head in shame*
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4:38PM on 10/16/2012

Guilty!

I will be there for the hanging
I will be there for the hanging
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1:24PM on 10/16/2012
He's not just regular-guilty, he's super-guilty with a backing chorus of 'splosions.
He's not just regular-guilty, he's super-guilty with a backing chorus of 'splosions.
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1:05PM on 10/16/2012

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And actually everyone else too. We really shouldn't be ripping into each other for our opinions here. But if you do feel the need to rip into someone about there opinion, you need to do two things; read the whole opinion (not argument) and then understand the word hypocritical.
ActionFan81, There was nothing hypocritical about what I said. I NEVER said anything about the awards he has or has not won. I merely pointed out that during October, November, and December is when we get to see the
And actually everyone else too. We really shouldn't be ripping into each other for our opinions here. But if you do feel the need to rip into someone about there opinion, you need to do two things; read the whole opinion (not argument) and then understand the word hypocritical.
ActionFan81, There was nothing hypocritical about what I said. I NEVER said anything about the awards he has or has not won. I merely pointed out that during October, November, and December is when we get to see the classy (begging for awards) movies. And he doesn't really release movies a whole lot of during that time. I can only think of one right now. The awards his films have won have been for technical things, and most of the time the award doesn't even go to him, so he didn't even win it.
At the end of the day, he make throw away popcorn movies, and that is needed in the film world. You can't have steak and lobster every night. Sometimes you gotta have a hotdog for dinner. I just feel that Bay makes the best hotdogs.
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12:00PM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

Not Guilty.....
Not Guilty.....
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10:35AM on 10/16/2012
I'm stunned by all the Michael Bay support.
For those of of you arguing that you know exactly what you're getting with a Bay film: a drool inducing 2 hours of explosions, bad dialogue, and shininess; I think you're missing the point. If Joblo had asked a more specific question like, "Does Michael Bay make disposable crap movies?" How many of you would be changing your verdicts?
As for the rest of you claiming he makes good films, I can only assume you have the movie tastes/intelligence of
I'm stunned by all the Michael Bay support.
For those of of you arguing that you know exactly what you're getting with a Bay film: a drool inducing 2 hours of explosions, bad dialogue, and shininess; I think you're missing the point. If Joblo had asked a more specific question like, "Does Michael Bay make disposable crap movies?" How many of you would be changing your verdicts?
As for the rest of you claiming he makes good films, I can only assume you have the movie tastes/intelligence of small children.
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10:08AM on 10/16/2012

NOT GUILTY

some of his films are pure guilty pleasure, while others are pretty darn good action movies. i agree not all of them are perfect, but seriously, jail time for bay is out of the question!
some of his films are pure guilty pleasure, while others are pretty darn good action movies. i agree not all of them are perfect, but seriously, jail time for bay is out of the question!
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9:15AM on 10/16/2012

NOT GUILTY!!!!

I like stupid, loud, chessy fun once in a while and he delivers it like no other! He stays true to himself and his style and that alone deserves a lot of credit and a movie jail free pass until he stops doing so; just slap him in the wrist and let him do his thing because for some reason he is consistently making millions at the box office.

:: Making popcorns to watch Armaggedon followed up by The Rock ::
I like stupid, loud, chessy fun once in a while and he delivers it like no other! He stays true to himself and his style and that alone deserves a lot of credit and a movie jail free pass until he stops doing so; just slap him in the wrist and let him do his thing because for some reason he is consistently making millions at the box office.

:: Making popcorns to watch Armaggedon followed up by The Rock ::
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8:40AM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

sorry double post
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8:15AM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

He's very capable at making explosion-heavy, throwaway entertainment. It might not always be to your tastes - I personally can't abide the Transformers series as they're beyond annoying and dumb to the nth degree - but there's clearly a big market for pretty much everything he does, and when it comes to giving a certain mass cinema audience what they want, he's got that formula down. It's like boy bands - personally I find them braindead and musically irrelevant, but there's clearly a big
He's very capable at making explosion-heavy, throwaway entertainment. It might not always be to your tastes - I personally can't abide the Transformers series as they're beyond annoying and dumb to the nth degree - but there's clearly a big market for pretty much everything he does, and when it comes to giving a certain mass cinema audience what they want, he's got that formula down. It's like boy bands - personally I find them braindead and musically irrelevant, but there's clearly a big market for that - so I can't hate on someone being savvy enough to manipulate that interest.
Send Michael Bay to movie jail? No. He's just milking the mass audience for every cent he can.
Send the audience on some sort of cinematic education / rehabilitation course? You might convert a few to watching better films, but most will just go straight back to whooping and applauding when Transformers 4 comes out.
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8:05AM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

...as a nun with a mouth full of c...ck.

Great line, isn't it?
...as a nun with a mouth full of c...ck.

Great line, isn't it?
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7:38AM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

Aside from The Rock, the rest of the things he's done have been shite.
Aside from The Rock, the rest of the things he's done have been shite.
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6:23AM on 10/16/2012

guilty

that felt good :)
that felt good :)
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5:54AM on 10/16/2012

Guilty

Sure he's made some decent movies but to undo the last 15 years of crap he would have to have made a topless Citizen Cane Meets Pulp Fiction classic. I loved his early stuff but his constant barrage of audience insulting brainlessness deserves a few years in the stir.
Sure he's made some decent movies but to undo the last 15 years of crap he would have to have made a topless Citizen Cane Meets Pulp Fiction classic. I loved his early stuff but his constant barrage of audience insulting brainlessness deserves a few years in the stir.
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5:17AM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

Sometimes the guy makes shlock, but he's made some decent movies as well. The hate against him is villagers with pitch forks.
Sometimes the guy makes shlock, but he's made some decent movies as well. The hate against him is villagers with pitch forks.
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4:15AM on 10/16/2012
Bay has never been a good filmmaker. Has he made some entertaining films? Sure. He knows how to direct good cinematography and happens to get decent to good actors for his films. But he generally has to fill his films with vapid material because he can't fill it with anything of quality. Bay should have been in movie jail a long time ago.
Bay has never been a good filmmaker. Has he made some entertaining films? Sure. He knows how to direct good cinematography and happens to get decent to good actors for his films. But he generally has to fill his films with vapid material because he can't fill it with anything of quality. Bay should have been in movie jail a long time ago.
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4:06AM on 10/16/2012

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This week really made me look at Bay's work, and, while I wouldn't care if the man never made another film, I still think he's contributed something to the world of film... Even if it is just to appreciate filmmakers like the Coens and Scorsese. I like the idea of doing M. Night Shyamalan, but I just think that one's gonna be too one sided. I think us movie geeks are all pretty clear about how we feel about his work as of late. I'd rather see someone who divides the masses. Some examples...
This week really made me look at Bay's work, and, while I wouldn't care if the man never made another film, I still think he's contributed something to the world of film... Even if it is just to appreciate filmmakers like the Coens and Scorsese. I like the idea of doing M. Night Shyamalan, but I just think that one's gonna be too one sided. I think us movie geeks are all pretty clear about how we feel about his work as of late. I'd rather see someone who divides the masses. Some examples...

Matthew McConaughey - Pro: Ghosts Of Girlfriends Past, The Wedding Planner, Sahara. Def: Lincoln Lawyer, Dazed and Confused, Frailty.

Channing Tatum - Pro: GI Joe, Step Up, The Dilemma. Def: Magic Mike, Public Enemies, 21 Jump Street

Kevin Smith - Pro: Jersey Girl, Cop Out, his acting choices in anything he hasn't directed. Def: Clerks, Dogma, Chasing Amy.
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4:06AM on 10/16/2012

Extra Tidbit...

This week really made me look at Bay's work, and, while I wouldn't care if the man never made another film, I still think he's contributed something to the world of film... Even if it is just to appreciate filmmakers like the Coens and Scorsese. I like the idea of doing M. Night Shyamalan, but I just think that one's gonna be too one sided. I think us movie geeks are all pretty clear about how we feel about his work as of late. I'd rather see someone who divides the masses. Some examples...
This week really made me look at Bay's work, and, while I wouldn't care if the man never made another film, I still think he's contributed something to the world of film... Even if it is just to appreciate filmmakers like the Coens and Scorsese. I like the idea of doing M. Night Shyamalan, but I just think that one's gonna be too one sided. I think us movie geeks are all pretty clear about how we feel about his work as of late. I'd rather see someone who divides the masses. Some examples...

Matthew McConaughey - Pro: Ghosts Of Girlfriends Past, The Wedding Planner, Sahara. Def: Lincoln Lawyer, Dazed and Confused, Frailty.

Channing Tatum - Pro: GI Joe, Step Up, The Dilemma. Def: Magic Mike, Public Enemies, 21 Jump Street

Kevin Smith - Pro: Jersey Girl, Cop Out, his acting choices in anything he hasn't directed. Def: Clerks, Dogma, Chasing Amy.
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3:32AM on 10/16/2012

I honestly can't believe I'm gonna say this...

But I actually think I'm gonna give the man a "Not Guilty." As much as I hate some of the mindless garbage he's turned out over the years, he does provide a certain quality with his films. The first Transformers, while not really a smart film, was entertaining and humorous at times. I am a little ashamed to admit that I even got a little enjoyment out of The Island, Bad Boys II, and Armageddon as well, as mindless as they may be. I really did love the first Bad Boys and The Rock... And God
But I actually think I'm gonna give the man a "Not Guilty." As much as I hate some of the mindless garbage he's turned out over the years, he does provide a certain quality with his films. The first Transformers, while not really a smart film, was entertaining and humorous at times. I am a little ashamed to admit that I even got a little enjoyment out of The Island, Bad Boys II, and Armageddon as well, as mindless as they may be. I really did love the first Bad Boys and The Rock... And God bless him, he really tried with Pearl Harbor (it was a massive failure, but you can tell he really tried.) If we were talking about his slew of horrible horror films he's produced, I'd say "give him the chair," but the man does occasionally provide the word with mindless popcorn flicks, and sometimes, when I'm at my computer and not really able to devote my full attention to the movie, I'll put on Bad Boys and just enjoy the bits and pieces I manage to catch.

Ugh... I hope no one I know ever reads this... I feel dirty. I'm gonna take a shower... Maybe put in Requiem For A Dream, and try to forget the last 3 minutes just happened.
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12:31AM on 10/16/2012

Not Guilty

I am hip to the idea that movies are a very emotional, visceral, and beautiful entities. And we have a time of year that those films come out. It is called Awards Season. However, sometimes you just need to see things blow up, and Bay can blow shit up like nobody else. He is the most prolific exploiter of boner inducing shots, and while some of the other action directors in other countries might give a sense of ballet beauty to filmed violence and can raise it to the level of art, there can
I am hip to the idea that movies are a very emotional, visceral, and beautiful entities. And we have a time of year that those films come out. It is called Awards Season. However, sometimes you just need to see things blow up, and Bay can blow shit up like nobody else. He is the most prolific exploiter of boner inducing shots, and while some of the other action directors in other countries might give a sense of ballet beauty to filmed violence and can raise it to the level of art, there can be no comparison for the sheer sexiness of the violence for violence sake and the indiscernible logic to the chaos he has caused on screen. He makes fun movies, if you can't except that then you have no business seeing movies in June, July, and August.
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3:58AM on 10/16/2012
Awards have nothing to do with him being lousy a director. Take Tony Scott (RIP) for example; he had made a lot of kick-ass movies that were fun but how many of them were made to win awards?

Besides Michael Bay films HAVE been nominated for awards so deep down he also wants to show for it but apparently when he doesn't win he takes his frustrations out on his next project with an "I don't give a f**k" attitude:

Armageddon - Oscar nominated for for VFX, & best sound
Pearl Harbor - Oscar
Awards have nothing to do with him being lousy a director. Take Tony Scott (RIP) for example; he had made a lot of kick-ass movies that were fun but how many of them were made to win awards?

Besides Michael Bay films HAVE been nominated for awards so deep down he also wants to show for it but apparently when he doesn't win he takes his frustrations out on his next project with an "I don't give a f**k" attitude:

Armageddon - Oscar nominated for for VFX, & best sound
Pearl Harbor - Oscar nominated for VFX, song and won for sound editing
Transformers trilogy - Oscar nominated for VFX, sound editing/mixing

For every Oscar not won there's a Saturn & MTV award to compensate, oh and also a Razzie. As you can see this makes your awards arguments hypocritical.
12:14AM on 10/16/2012
Me thinks this will be a very biased & obvious GUILTY verdict on this site, since the schmoes here are about as predictable as the weather. Bay is simply a man who makes movies to entertain PERIOD & obviously they make money. None of his movies will probably never win any awards & i am ok with that 100% To me though his best movies are The Rock & The Island, while the Bad Boys films hold a soft spot also.
Me thinks this will be a very biased & obvious GUILTY verdict on this site, since the schmoes here are about as predictable as the weather. Bay is simply a man who makes movies to entertain PERIOD & obviously they make money. None of his movies will probably never win any awards & i am ok with that 100% To me though his best movies are The Rock & The Island, while the Bad Boys films hold a soft spot also.
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11:40PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

the industry is better off without him!
the industry is better off without him!
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10:53PM on 10/15/2012

Not guilty

I enjoy me some Michael Bay carnage once in a while. That said, he has had some stinkers.
I enjoy me some Michael Bay carnage once in a while. That said, he has had some stinkers.
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10:07PM on 10/15/2012
Where did all these Michael Bay sympathizers come from? Lol.
Where did all these Michael Bay sympathizers come from? Lol.
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9:32PM on 10/15/2012

M. Night Shyamalan next!

M. Night Shyamalan next please!
How about Face Off: Which director is more guilty and gets life without parole
Michael Bay vs. M. Night Shyamalan
M. Night Shyamalan next please!
How about Face Off: Which director is more guilty and gets life without parole
Michael Bay vs. M. Night Shyamalan
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9:31PM on 10/15/2012

M. Night Shyamalan next!

M. Night Shyamalan next please!
How about Face Off: Which director is more guilty and gets life without parole
Michael Bay vs. M. Night Shyamalan
M. Night Shyamalan next please!
How about Face Off: Which director is more guilty and gets life without parole
Michael Bay vs. M. Night Shyamalan
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9:29PM on 10/15/2012

He gets the death penalty.

The only good films that he's made are The Rock and The Island.
The only good films that he's made are The Rock and The Island.
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8:52PM on 10/15/2012

In the words of the Kryptonian judges...

"Guilty!"
"Guilty!"
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7:53PM on 10/15/2012

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7:19PM on 10/15/2012

GUILTY!!!!

Throw this man UNDER THE JAIL!!!!!!
Throw this man UNDER THE JAIL!!!!!!
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6:51PM on 10/15/2012
The Quintessons find him GUILTY! Five times!
The Quintessons find him GUILTY! Five times!
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6:16PM on 10/15/2012
Absolutely guilty. The man, with his parkinsonian style, has ruined readable action sequences in our beloved action movie genre. Guilty, a thousand times.
Absolutely guilty. The man, with his parkinsonian style, has ruined readable action sequences in our beloved action movie genre. Guilty, a thousand times.
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6:12PM on 10/15/2012

GUILTY

For life! Without parole! Words cannot express the anguish and anger I felt watching Dark of the Moon. Asshole.
For life! Without parole! Words cannot express the anguish and anger I felt watching Dark of the Moon. Asshole.
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6:00PM on 10/15/2012
Not guilty. However, you need to give him a restraining order to keep 50 yards away from bad scripts and remakes. With good material his films are fun and entertaining. If you're looking for more in a Bay film, than you're looking for too much.
Not guilty. However, you need to give him a restraining order to keep 50 yards away from bad scripts and remakes. With good material his films are fun and entertaining. If you're looking for more in a Bay film, than you're looking for too much.
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5:28PM on 10/15/2012
HA! This one is easy. GUILTY!!!
HA! This one is easy. GUILTY!!!
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4:48PM on 10/15/2012
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
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4:40PM on 10/15/2012
If Tim Burton is guilty and this motherfucker becomes "not guilty", there's no point to this article anymore.
If Tim Burton is guilty and this motherfucker becomes "not guilty", there's no point to this article anymore.
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4:27PM on 10/15/2012
And for next week, in the spirit of Halloween, I accuse any and all 'Found Footage' horror movies other than the original 'Rec.'
And for next week, in the spirit of Halloween, I accuse any and all 'Found Footage' horror movies other than the original 'Rec.'
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4:24PM on 10/15/2012

If Michael Bay doesn't belong in Movie Jail, then there's no reason to have this column anymore.

Guilty, no possibility of parole, in Guantanamo. To be tortured with Decepticon Truck Nuts dangling in his face for all eternity.

His movies aren't even movies anymore. As he's gotten further and further away from the influence of producers like Bruckheimer and Spielberg he's descended further into masturbatory chaos. Its just things happening onscreen for 150 minutes with little resembling plot structure, flow, character arcs or coherent story-telling.

Its not an excuse to say he
Guilty, no possibility of parole, in Guantanamo. To be tortured with Decepticon Truck Nuts dangling in his face for all eternity.

His movies aren't even movies anymore. As he's gotten further and further away from the influence of producers like Bruckheimer and Spielberg he's descended further into masturbatory chaos. Its just things happening onscreen for 150 minutes with little resembling plot structure, flow, character arcs or coherent story-telling.

Its not an excuse to say he "brings the action." What, like Joss Whedon, JJ Abrams, Chris Nolan, Ridley Scott, James Cameron and all the other big budget action directors don't? Those guys also manage to have their action look CONVINCING...not with explosions that look straight out of bad White Snake concerts. Without a story, or modestly believable characters, a $100 million 30-minute action climax is pure tedium.

And thats before I even begin to get into his lazy racial stereotyping, or that he fills movies about toys for 8 year olds with f-bombs, pot jokes, leg humping, and upskirt thong shots (be it Rose Huntington-Whitely or John Turturro.) Or that in his new role as "executive producer" he's systematically murdering every franchise we know and love from Nightmare on Elm Street to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He even produced a Friday the 13th movie that was shit even by godawful Friday the 13th standards.

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5:35PM on 10/15/2012
Completely agree on all counts and very well said.
Completely agree on all counts and very well said.
10:54PM on 10/15/2012
I lol'd
I lol'd
6:04AM on 10/16/2012
Excellent. Your comments about Bays shallow work vs other great directors who manage both coherence and action reminds me of something. That scene in Anchorman where everyone is shouting, trying to make a point and, thinking he is participating on equal footing, Steve Carrell shouts "Very loud noises!"
Excellent. Your comments about Bays shallow work vs other great directors who manage both coherence and action reminds me of something. That scene in Anchorman where everyone is shouting, trying to make a point and, thinking he is participating on equal footing, Steve Carrell shouts "Very loud noises!"
4:17PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty!

He's done some good stuff. He seems like a guy who likes what he does and has fun with his movies. But goddamn, his bad movies are way worse than his good movies are good. So I say guilty.
He's done some good stuff. He seems like a guy who likes what he does and has fun with his movies. But goddamn, his bad movies are way worse than his good movies are good. So I say guilty.
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4:06PM on 10/15/2012

GUILTY!!!!!!!

Michael Bay is everything wrong with Hollywood given human form.
I want to see him flayed alive.
Michael Bay is everything wrong with Hollywood given human form.
I want to see him flayed alive.
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6:17PM on 10/15/2012
I second this statement.
I second this statement.
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4:03PM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty!

And by the way, The Island is fucking AWESOME!!!
And by the way, The Island is fucking AWESOME!!!
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4:03PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty!!

If there was an option of the death-penalty I'd so want him to be executed. I don't deny that he makes good action scenes but those things are meaningless if the plot is absent and its ass-pulling all the way instead of story telling.

The visuals in Armageddon still hold up but once they get into space the movie starts falling apart real quick. All those saying The Island is underrated and was probably his best is because it ripped-off (allegedly) a screenplay from a much better movie
If there was an option of the death-penalty I'd so want him to be executed. I don't deny that he makes good action scenes but those things are meaningless if the plot is absent and its ass-pulling all the way instead of story telling.

The visuals in Armageddon still hold up but once they get into space the movie starts falling apart real quick. All those saying The Island is underrated and was probably his best is because it ripped-off (allegedly) a screenplay from a much better movie nearly scene for scene made in the 70s. I just can't remember the title.

Extratidbit: Spike Lee
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4:02PM on 10/15/2012

GUILTY

Burn him!
Settling for mediocrity would be an upgrade for him. 'Exploitation' is a word more suited for this ber-douche.
Burn him!
Settling for mediocrity would be an upgrade for him. 'Exploitation' is a word more suited for this ber-douche.
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3:56PM on 10/15/2012
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3:20PM on 10/15/2012
Not guilty. I STILL think he has a GREAT movie in him. He's been close a few times. I want to see him keep trying. Just not on giant robots.
Not guilty. I STILL think he has a GREAT movie in him. He's been close a few times. I want to see him keep trying. Just not on giant robots.
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3:10PM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty

Saying Michael Bay sucks at directing because his movies are not plot driven is similar to calling Martin Scorsese a bad director for not making a blockbuster action/explosion flick. I know I will get negatives votes for this but at least hear me out.

Bay doesn't make Oscar films; he blows up buildings and cars for the camera. While some of his films have a good story he consistently, quote: "brings the rain" in action. This is his niche and he does that well. You can't prosecute
Saying Michael Bay sucks at directing because his movies are not plot driven is similar to calling Martin Scorsese a bad director for not making a blockbuster action/explosion flick. I know I will get negatives votes for this but at least hear me out.

Bay doesn't make Oscar films; he blows up buildings and cars for the camera. While some of his films have a good story he consistently, quote: "brings the rain" in action. This is his niche and he does that well. You can't prosecute someone for consistency when that person stays consistent. I thought the point of Move Jail was to try those who were great and fell from grace not those who stayed consistent be it good, bad or mediocre. If you don't like his movies that's great. We have the ability to choose to watch something else. The variety in movies is part of the greatness of the art. Now if Bay ever tries to make a story driven film and fails then cuff him but if you are disappointed after knowingly going to see a Bay film that the story lacked plot then you just stuck your hand in a hornet's nest and complained that they stung you. Likewise if a Bay film ever doesn't obliterate props in fiery proportions then complain.

To end my rant keep in mind that Bay didn't write the Transformer films. As the director he was responsible for it's outcome and added his flare but another member made the comment that if he has a good script then his movies are watchable. I've been a TF fan since 1984 and I went to see all 3 movies begging to see giant robots beating the energon out of each other and I was NOT disappointed. Yes Optimus Prime could drive himself through those sizable plot holes but it was still fun. I don't think the movies would have succeeded as a plot driven movie. That is unfortunate for different reasons though.
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4:03PM on 10/15/2012
Your Scorsese Vs Bay example doesn't make sense because its like comparing apples & oranges. Martin is more of Crime Drama guy than an Action director. Their genres are different.
Your Scorsese Vs Bay example doesn't make sense because its like comparing apples & oranges. Martin is more of Crime Drama guy than an Action director. Their genres are different.
4:19PM on 10/15/2012
No you got the point exactly. I was making an apples oranges kind of comparison. Apples and oranges are both fruit but very different. Martin and Bay, both being directors, are very different representations of the same medium. I picked Scorsese because he is very good at what he does but his genre is completely different than Bay's. Any director of a different movie type other than action could be substituted in his place and the analogy should still work. Martin was just my first thought,
No you got the point exactly. I was making an apples oranges kind of comparison. Apples and oranges are both fruit but very different. Martin and Bay, both being directors, are very different representations of the same medium. I picked Scorsese because he is very good at what he does but his genre is completely different than Bay's. Any director of a different movie type other than action could be substituted in his place and the analogy should still work. Martin was just my first thought, actually Spielberg was but then I remembered that he produced TF so I decided against him as an example.
5:02PM on 10/15/2012
Ok so who makes better (plot driven) action flicks between Michael Bay & John Woo? John Woo also blows up stuff in a lot of his movies with guys wearing sunglasses diving sideways in slow-mo while firing two guns, doesn't he?

Isn't this a fairer comparison?
Ok so who makes better (plot driven) action flicks between Michael Bay & John Woo? John Woo also blows up stuff in a lot of his movies with guys wearing sunglasses diving sideways in slow-mo while firing two guns, doesn't he?

Isn't this a fairer comparison?
5:02PM on 10/15/2012
Ok so who makes better (plot driven) action flicks between Michael Bay & John Woo? John Woo also blows up stuff in a lot of his movies with guys wearing sunglasses diving sideways in slow-mo while firing two guns, doesn't he?

Isn't this a fairer comparison?
Ok so who makes better (plot driven) action flicks between Michael Bay & John Woo? John Woo also blows up stuff in a lot of his movies with guys wearing sunglasses diving sideways in slow-mo while firing two guns, doesn't he?

Isn't this a fairer comparison?
3:13PM on 10/16/2012
Yes, that would be a more fair comparison. I was going for extremes though stating that these two directors made completely different movies to emphasize the vast differences in movie genres. I wasn't saying one was better than the other but each was good at their style of film. However you bring up a good question since both Bay and Woo are action directors; which director makes better movies, Bay or Woo? Isn't there a "face off" column on this site? I think that would be a good comparison
Yes, that would be a more fair comparison. I was going for extremes though stating that these two directors made completely different movies to emphasize the vast differences in movie genres. I wasn't saying one was better than the other but each was good at their style of film. However you bring up a good question since both Bay and Woo are action directors; which director makes better movies, Bay or Woo? Isn't there a "face off" column on this site? I think that would be a good comparison article.
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3:07PM on 10/15/2012
If an artist like Tim Burton is sentenced guilty for 1 or 2 crappy movies and a poser like Bay is not, then I know Im in movie hell!
If an artist like Tim Burton is sentenced guilty for 1 or 2 crappy movies and a poser like Bay is not, then I know Im in movie hell!
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3:02PM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty

PH and the movies he produced are bad yes. But I really enjoy the majority of HIS movies. The Bad Boys series is great, The Rock is amazing, I actually really liked The Island and the Transformers movies were really fun, yup even the 2nd one, I liked it, sue me.
PH and the movies he produced are bad yes. But I really enjoy the majority of HIS movies. The Bad Boys series is great, The Rock is amazing, I actually really liked The Island and the Transformers movies were really fun, yup even the 2nd one, I liked it, sue me.
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3:02PM on 10/15/2012

NOT GUILTY

I understand that plot and character development account for less than zero in a Michael Bay film. I understand that the amount of product placement in his films borders on the grotesque. I understand that his concepts of "cool" or "funny" or "conducive to a strong story" don't always agree with what's actually good. You know what? I don't care. Bay has struck on something primal here: stuff a film with enough slow mo, fast editing, loud sounds, and dazzling effects and people will eat it up.
I understand that plot and character development account for less than zero in a Michael Bay film. I understand that the amount of product placement in his films borders on the grotesque. I understand that his concepts of "cool" or "funny" or "conducive to a strong story" don't always agree with what's actually good. You know what? I don't care. Bay has struck on something primal here: stuff a film with enough slow mo, fast editing, loud sounds, and dazzling effects and people will eat it up. Always. Without fail. He took the action film and cranked it up to eleven. Here's the Sergio Leone of action films: his films are baroque, like a Caravaggio painting. I know that sounds absurd, but Bay took what we loved about action films and exaggerated them into a whole 'nother genre. John Woo did the same, and now what Bay and Woo did are the standards of action films now for better or worse. I say better. You can have an action film with plot, subtext, characters - and you can also have a film like Transformers. It's the difference between eat a fancy cake and just stuffing frosting in your mouth - both are tasty as hell, it's just that one took a little more effort.
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3:01PM on 10/15/2012

Not guilty

I dig The Rock, Bad Boys, Armageddon. Transformers 1and 3.

So no, not guilty.
I dig The Rock, Bad Boys, Armageddon. Transformers 1and 3.

So no, not guilty.
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2:44PM on 10/15/2012

Not guilty

Not guilty
Not guilty
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2:34PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

Do Brett Ratner next
Do Brett Ratner next
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2:25PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

everyone keeps saying how can he be guilty if he made bad boys, and the rock and so on... thats why this column is here. Its to say; hey he has had his time, he hasn't done any quality films in years so, he should stop because all he does is garbage now.
Now please lock him up before he destroys the TMNT franchise, along with everyones childhood franchises.
everyone keeps saying how can he be guilty if he made bad boys, and the rock and so on... thats why this column is here. Its to say; hey he has had his time, he hasn't done any quality films in years so, he should stop because all he does is garbage now.
Now please lock him up before he destroys the TMNT franchise, along with everyones childhood franchises.
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2:08PM on 10/15/2012

not guilty

who's next in movie jail?James cameron?because he is making lot of money?film hypo'critics' love to hate these kind of guys..George lucas,jim cameron,michael bay,roland emmerich.they just make popcorn entertainment movies,not artsy fartsy films.Pearl harbor is the only film i didnt like.
who's next in movie jail?James cameron?because he is making lot of money?film hypo'critics' love to hate these kind of guys..George lucas,jim cameron,michael bay,roland emmerich.they just make popcorn entertainment movies,not artsy fartsy films.Pearl harbor is the only film i didnt like.
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2:02PM on 10/15/2012

Beyond Guilty

Bay does have a few good movies to his name as a director, but the fact remains that out of his nine major directorial films, four of them range from not awful to good. The other five range from bad to unbearably god awful (all three TF movies, Bad Boys 2). He's a one trick pony, and not evolving during his almost 20 year career is a spectacular failure in and of itself.

Next up- I saw someone below mention Sandra Bullock's name, I'd like to second that.
Bay does have a few good movies to his name as a director, but the fact remains that out of his nine major directorial films, four of them range from not awful to good. The other five range from bad to unbearably god awful (all three TF movies, Bad Boys 2). He's a one trick pony, and not evolving during his almost 20 year career is a spectacular failure in and of itself.

Next up- I saw someone below mention Sandra Bullock's name, I'd like to second that.
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1:58PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

I can forgive him for Transformers.

I can't forgive him for Platinum Dunes
I can forgive him for Transformers.

I can't forgive him for Platinum Dunes
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1:58PM on 10/15/2012

Nic Cage

How the hell was Nic Cage found not guilty? Thats a bigger shocker than the OJ verdict
How the hell was Nic Cage found not guilty? Thats a bigger shocker than the OJ verdict
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1:56PM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty

C'mon. You know what you're getting when you get Michael Bay. Anyone that expected Pearl Harbor to be the next Saving Pvt Ryan was an idiot. And seriously, you really expected Transformers to be good movies? We were lucky the first one was a good story and action. Im actually pretty excited for Pain and Gain.
C'mon. You know what you're getting when you get Michael Bay. Anyone that expected Pearl Harbor to be the next Saving Pvt Ryan was an idiot. And seriously, you really expected Transformers to be good movies? We were lucky the first one was a good story and action. Im actually pretty excited for Pain and Gain.
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1:23PM on 10/15/2012
Sorry the guy's not guilty. Sure the action movies are bad but they bring action in ways no director has been able to top plus he has a style all his own. Few directors can say that. I was thinking of Bad Boys II and the first time I saw it it was the overload the chase that led to the freeway was something I don't think many directors could duplicate then the exploding house to Gitmo. Sure the Transformers movies were terrible but at least they brought the action like promised. Character
Sorry the guy's not guilty. Sure the action movies are bad but they bring action in ways no director has been able to top plus he has a style all his own. Few directors can say that. I was thinking of Bad Boys II and the first time I saw it it was the overload the chase that led to the freeway was something I don't think many directors could duplicate then the exploding house to Gitmo. Sure the Transformers movies were terrible but at least they brought the action like promised. Character building, it is what it is.
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3:33PM on 10/15/2012
Those scenes were nothing new and were done much better in the past

The freeway chase with cars being tossed: The Rookie (Clint Eastwood)
The exploding house scene: or an enitre building in this case, done awesomely in T2 (James Cameron)
The mowing down of houses from a hilltop in cars: Looked much better in Police Story (Jackie Chan)
Those scenes were nothing new and were done much better in the past

The freeway chase with cars being tossed: The Rookie (Clint Eastwood)
The exploding house scene: or an enitre building in this case, done awesomely in T2 (James Cameron)
The mowing down of houses from a hilltop in cars: Looked much better in Police Story (Jackie Chan)
1:15PM on 10/15/2012

not guilty

he just needs to leave those robots in the dust and get back to what hes good at, R rated action mayhem.
he just needs to leave those robots in the dust and get back to what hes good at, R rated action mayhem.
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1:03PM on 10/15/2012
To the gallows with him.
To the gallows with him.
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1:00PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty as sin!

While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg,
While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg, but will never have the talent and love for cinema these guys have. Bay is a Hollywood infected director, and represents what's going wrong with Hollywood. His temper and attitude on set is that of a angry successful bully. As a guest speaker at a film school he showed up in his Lamborghini and parked in the "no parking fire zone". And as for the "Transformers" trilogy, he had something decent going and then pissed all over it. Bay is guilty as hell, and needs to give up his Lamborghini and his DGA card.
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12:58PM on 10/15/2012

guilty as hell.

his BEST movies are ok, at best. his worst movies are unbearable crap.
his BEST movies are ok, at best. his worst movies are unbearable crap.
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12:53PM on 10/15/2012
Not guilty. The guy is a prick, an effects-driven director, and has become a one-note filmmaker, but he does know how to make a damn good entertaining movie. Not all of his movies are good, but I enjoyed the hell out of Armageddon, The Rock, and the first Transformers movie.
Not guilty. The guy is a prick, an effects-driven director, and has become a one-note filmmaker, but he does know how to make a damn good entertaining movie. Not all of his movies are good, but I enjoyed the hell out of Armageddon, The Rock, and the first Transformers movie.
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12:48PM on 10/15/2012

Why is he even on here?

Not guilty. I know the fan boys love to hate on this guy. Everyone wants to be part of the mob. But this dude's movies make truck loads of cash. So clearly someone, a lot of ones, are going to his movies. So everyone can pat themselves on the back for throwing him in jail. But like it or not he's a money making Juggernaut that won't be going anywhere soon. I know...booo me.
Not guilty. I know the fan boys love to hate on this guy. Everyone wants to be part of the mob. But this dude's movies make truck loads of cash. So clearly someone, a lot of ones, are going to his movies. So everyone can pat themselves on the back for throwing him in jail. But like it or not he's a money making Juggernaut that won't be going anywhere soon. I know...booo me.
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1:56PM on 10/15/2012
Since when did making money count as making a quality film? It never has, and will never be that way. Just because the casual movie-goer likes it, does not mean it has any inherent value to it. That's way you will always hear hardcore movie buffs complain that the latest Adam Sandler film did so well, despite sucking a lot (I know that "That's My Boy" didn't do so well, but both "Grown Ups" & "Just Go With It" were hits).
Since when did making money count as making a quality film? It never has, and will never be that way. Just because the casual movie-goer likes it, does not mean it has any inherent value to it. That's way you will always hear hardcore movie buffs complain that the latest Adam Sandler film did so well, despite sucking a lot (I know that "That's My Boy" didn't do so well, but both "Grown Ups" & "Just Go With It" were hits).
12:44PM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty

Anyone who made Bad Boys 2 can't be found guilty....
Anyone who made Bad Boys 2 can't be found guilty....
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1:52PM on 10/15/2012
"Bad Boys 2" is one of his worst movies imo!
"Bad Boys 2" is one of his worst movies imo!
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12:12PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

I'm having trouble thinking of someone I'd want to put into movie jail more...
I'm having trouble thinking of someone I'd want to put into movie jail more...
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12:11PM on 10/15/2012
This may be the first case where we sentence someone to death. All the actors we've sent to movie jail have an innate talent and we only need to lock them up for their own protection and to give them time to think while they remember who they are.

Bay on the other hand has no innate talent and should get the chair.
This may be the first case where we sentence someone to death. All the actors we've sent to movie jail have an innate talent and we only need to lock them up for their own protection and to give them time to think while they remember who they are.

Bay on the other hand has no innate talent and should get the chair.
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12:09PM on 10/15/2012
Guilty....if he has a shitty script (TF2). Not guilty....if he has a good script (THE ROCK).
Guilty....if he has a shitty script (TF2). Not guilty....if he has a good script (THE ROCK).
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12:04PM on 10/15/2012
Guilty as charged. I do like The Rock and Armageddon holds a special place as one of the first films I saw in the theatres, but I've grown to really dislike his directing style. I know it seems in vogue to hate on Michael Bay, but from all accounts and looking at behind-the-scenes material and interviews, he looks to be a filmmaker who's in it almost entirely for the fame and the money, someone who doesn't seem like he has much respect for the craft of filmmaking or much artistic integrity at
Guilty as charged. I do like The Rock and Armageddon holds a special place as one of the first films I saw in the theatres, but I've grown to really dislike his directing style. I know it seems in vogue to hate on Michael Bay, but from all accounts and looking at behind-the-scenes material and interviews, he looks to be a filmmaker who's in it almost entirely for the fame and the money, someone who doesn't seem like he has much respect for the craft of filmmaking or much artistic integrity at all. Yeah, directors have to earn a living, but they don't have to sell out and/or be colossal douches to do so. He seems to always be riding on the shoulders of better filmmakers, liberally name-dropping James Cameron and Steven Spielberg as often as he wants to. Things like his feud with Megan Fox and his alleged mistreatment of cast and crew members at some point or another also point to him being something of an irresponsible egomaniac. Sure, he knows how to blow things up and make said explosions look good, but a film is so much more than the occasional spectacular image.
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12:01PM on 10/15/2012

Guilty as sin!

While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg,
While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg, but will never have the talent and love for cinema these guys have. Bay is a Hollywood infected director, and represents what's going wrong with Hollywood. His temper and attitude on set is that of a angry successful bully. As a guest speaker at a film school he showed up in his Lamborghini and parked in the "no parking fire zone". And as for the "Transformers" trilogy, he had something decent going and then pissed all over it. Bay is guilty as hell, and needs to give up his Lamborghini and his DGA card.
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11:57AM on 10/15/2012
Not guilty. The Rock was awesome. Bad Boys 1&2 are awesome. The Island is Way underrated. Transformers movies aren't Transformers I know when I was a kid but the trilogy is fun to watch and the action is top-notch. Regardless of quality of the movie, Michael Bay knows how to direct engaging action scenes.
Not guilty. The Rock was awesome. Bad Boys 1&2 are awesome. The Island is Way underrated. Transformers movies aren't Transformers I know when I was a kid but the trilogy is fun to watch and the action is top-notch. Regardless of quality of the movie, Michael Bay knows how to direct engaging action scenes.
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Guilty as sin!

While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg,
While I don't deny my high scale enjoyment for early films, "The Rock" and "Armageddon". Michael Bay is a high cost director mostly because he shows up and points and shoots, and shoots, and shoots, and shoots. One 30 second TV spot he films can have well over a mile of footage, meaning that he doesn't preplan his scenes he just shows up and shoots the same shot from every angle possible. Any one of us could do that. Michael Bay has proven that he wants to be James Cameron and Steven Spielberg, but will never have the talent and love for cinema these guys have. Bay is a Hollywood infected director, and represents what's going wrong with Hollywood. His temper and attitude on set is that of a angry successful bully. As a guest speaker at a film school he showed up in his Lamborghini and parked in the "no parking fire zone". And as for the "Transformers" trilogy, he had something decent going and then pissed all over it. Bay is guilty as hell, and needs to give up his Lamborghini and his DGA card.
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11:54AM on 10/15/2012

Are you kidding?

Life Sentence, No Parole. Guilty on all counts- throw the book at him.
Life Sentence, No Parole. Guilty on all counts- throw the book at him.
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11:53AM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

I'm not sure The Island is such a bad movie. The first half was pretty spectacular. But then Michael Bay started doing what he does best.

This is a pretty frickin' easy one. Pain and Gain might still turn out to be an okay movie, but this guy still has enough shit to his name to more than justify a guilty verdict.
I'm not sure The Island is such a bad movie. The first half was pretty spectacular. But then Michael Bay started doing what he does best.

This is a pretty frickin' easy one. Pain and Gain might still turn out to be an okay movie, but this guy still has enough shit to his name to more than justify a guilty verdict.
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11:52AM on 10/15/2012

Sigh.......NOT GUILTY

It's a close call but, Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, Armageddon, The Rock, and the second half of Transformers 3 beat out Transformers, Transformers 2, the first half of Transformers 3, Pearl Harbor and The Island any day.
It's a close call but, Bad Boys, Bad Boys II, Armageddon, The Rock, and the second half of Transformers 3 beat out Transformers, Transformers 2, the first half of Transformers 3, Pearl Harbor and The Island any day.
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11:49AM on 10/15/2012

Not Guilty

I'm actually gonna go not guilty. For the most part his films have been consistent. He's as good now as when he started, or bad if you wanna look at it like that. I enjoyed Transformers 1 and 3, and the Rock is one of my favorite action movies. Everything else has been pretty terrible. But even so there is some enjoyment out of watching the films. His name has now become synonymous with mindless action movie. Like back when Speilberg said he was proud that "Nuking the Fridge" is now a cultural
I'm actually gonna go not guilty. For the most part his films have been consistent. He's as good now as when he started, or bad if you wanna look at it like that. I enjoyed Transformers 1 and 3, and the Rock is one of my favorite action movies. Everything else has been pretty terrible. But even so there is some enjoyment out of watching the films. His name has now become synonymous with mindless action movie. Like back when Speilberg said he was proud that "Nuking the Fridge" is now a cultural reference, so is the name Michael Bay. He never promises smart movies, he promises action movies and he always delivers. Armageddon is the essential disaster movie of out time, anything that can go wrong does go wrong and it set the standard for every disaster movie after. After Titanic, Hollywood wanted more historical Action/romance movies, but Pearl Harbor really helped dodge that trend. In closing, as a man he is bigger than his movies reputations, he has become a genre and that right there is something to marvel at.

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11:52AM on 10/15/2012
Also, i think i would change my verdict if he makes one more god awful remake.
Also, i think i would change my verdict if he makes one more god awful remake.
11:42AM on 10/15/2012

So Guilty

Ten minutes into Transformers 3 and my buddy and I started going MST3K on the flick. The guy is Ed Wood but with bigger budgets.
Ten minutes into Transformers 3 and my buddy and I started going MST3K on the flick. The guy is Ed Wood but with bigger budgets.
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11:35AM on 10/15/2012

Guilty

The Transformers films are enough to lock this guy away and toss the key.
The Transformers films are enough to lock this guy away and toss the key.
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