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Seth Rogen thinks the MPAA ratings system is "stupid" and "weird"

06.09.2014

Seth Rogen is mad as hell, and he's not going to take this anymore!

At the Produced By Conference on Saturday, Seth Rogen let loose on the MPAA ratings system, saying it "is so stupid why play that game?" and "Why even enter a system that stupid?"

Rogen goes on to say, "There’s nothing more frustrating than being on set and coming up with a joke and being told you can’t do it because it’s a PG movie. It’s like boxing with your hands tied behind your  back … because of some weird ratings structure. It’s just devastating."

Seth Rogen also talked about how much control he has with his films, and says the only reason why he was able to make NEIGHBORS after developing it for years was because the budget was cut in half.

Instead we literally cut the budget in half (to $18 million) and made the movie we wanted to make. At least we didn’t make a movie we hate and had to work on for a year and a half.

I think the best thing for Seth Rogen would be to stay away from PG projects. While I agree the ratings system can be a little ridiculous sometimes (the controversy with THE KING'S SPEECH comes to mind), there are reasons why it exists in the first place. It's a flawed system, that's for sure, but it's the one we've had for a long time, and I doubt there's going to be any major changes to it anytime soon.

What are your thoughts on the MPAA ratings system? Do you agree or disagree with Seth Rogen's comments? Sound off below!

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10:40PM on 06/09/2014
The MPAA is corrupt and broken, simple as that. They fail at their jobs at all levels. A new rating system should be made, and everyone in involved with MPAA should go nowhere near it.
The MPAA is corrupt and broken, simple as that. They fail at their jobs at all levels. A new rating system should be made, and everyone in involved with MPAA should go nowhere near it.
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10:18PM on 06/09/2014
He ranted about the same things when This is The End came out. Granted, he was doing an R rated comedy, but the MPAA was going to give it an NC-17 for Satan's junk. I'm not a big fan of the ratings system at all. Violence is fine, but language and nudity isn't. Granted, most people don't give a hoot about the ratings. When I saw X-Men: DOFP, there were 5 year olds coming out with parents. Some of the language, though sparse, was not appropriate for that age, and some of the violence was a bit
He ranted about the same things when This is The End came out. Granted, he was doing an R rated comedy, but the MPAA was going to give it an NC-17 for Satan's junk. I'm not a big fan of the ratings system at all. Violence is fine, but language and nudity isn't. Granted, most people don't give a hoot about the ratings. When I saw X-Men: DOFP, there were 5 year olds coming out with parents. Some of the language, though sparse, was not appropriate for that age, and some of the violence was a bit intense. In the end, if parents don't give a crap about the suggested viewers, why is anyone else caring?
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4:17PM on 06/09/2014
This film is not yet rated is a good documentary on the subject if you haven't seen it.
This film is not yet rated is a good documentary on the subject if you haven't seen it.
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1:45PM on 06/09/2014
I hate the MPAA. Good for him for giving them shit.
I hate the MPAA. Good for him for giving them shit.
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12:51PM on 06/09/2014
It's amazing some of the stuff you see them get away with on prime time network television, where anyone with a TV can see, regardless of age. Everything from rape, incest and mutilation. Yet you can't show a little blood in a movie these days when someone gets shot, or stabbed. It's strange what they edit for TV as well. Like, you can't swear or show nudity, but I was watching Tropic Thunder on TV, and they showed Ben Stiller waving around a severed human head on a stick for comedic effect.
It's amazing some of the stuff you see them get away with on prime time network television, where anyone with a TV can see, regardless of age. Everything from rape, incest and mutilation. Yet you can't show a little blood in a movie these days when someone gets shot, or stabbed. It's strange what they edit for TV as well. Like, you can't swear or show nudity, but I was watching Tropic Thunder on TV, and they showed Ben Stiller waving around a severed human head on a stick for comedic effect.
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12:45PM on 06/09/2014
OK, he's right about the MPAA being stupid, but what he said right here was even dumber. "Thereís nothing more frustrating than being on set and coming up with a joke and being told you canít do it because itís a PG movie."...That makes sense!...Duh???
OK, he's right about the MPAA being stupid, but what he said right here was even dumber. "Thereís nothing more frustrating than being on set and coming up with a joke and being told you canít do it because itís a PG movie."...That makes sense!...Duh???
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5:08PM on 06/09/2014
I'm sure he meant PG or PG-13.
I'm sure he meant PG or PG-13.
1:40PM on 06/11/2014
OK, well as I said, it makes sense for a PG movie.
OK, well as I said, it makes sense for a PG movie.
12:11PM on 06/09/2014

I agree, but it's a tough sell

I talked about this in the come on hollywood column about R, but studios are too invested in the branding of the rating systems. The actual rating contributes to the overall experience. P-13 reminds families that the violence is going to be robust, but nerfed, the foul language scant, and no nipples or junk. It's dumbed down, but it is also a hand marketing tool that mainstream audiences tacitly support. And the problem is, the bigger a star you are, the less control you have - because the
I talked about this in the come on hollywood column about R, but studios are too invested in the branding of the rating systems. The actual rating contributes to the overall experience. P-13 reminds families that the violence is going to be robust, but nerfed, the foul language scant, and no nipples or junk. It's dumbed down, but it is also a hand marketing tool that mainstream audiences tacitly support. And the problem is, the bigger a star you are, the less control you have - because the studio is going to want to maximize the return on the sizeable investment they made. If you're making 8 figures to be in a movie - you better believe that the studio is going to use whatever dumb cues available to let mom know it's okay to bring 10 year-old billy and his two friends to go see it. Not to mention all of the corporate product placement and outraged special interest groups that can go haywire if there aren't some expectations met that a movie is not going to be "culturally offensive" even if it's artistically a joke.

Ebert railed against this for years, and its become even more confounding since then. It's a bad system - a bad, firmly entrenched system.
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12:09PM on 06/09/2014

I think he's right , but...

But, it is a little more than just "it's stupid." The system is not flawed, it is the people that create and apply the concepts to the system that is flawed. The ratings boards meet in private, have confused ideas what is and is not appropiate, and generally spend way too much time protecting my children from things that they should not. The dicumentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated was a perfect example of this, and even though that film has come and gone, it has not changed. The fact that
But, it is a little more than just "it's stupid." The system is not flawed, it is the people that create and apply the concepts to the system that is flawed. The ratings boards meet in private, have confused ideas what is and is not appropiate, and generally spend way too much time protecting my children from things that they should not. The dicumentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated was a perfect example of this, and even though that film has come and gone, it has not changed. The fact that you can use the F-word twice in a movie as an expletive (I'm going to F-ing kill you) and still get a PG-13 but the second you use it's literal meaning (I'm going to F- you) you get an R. The counting of Hip thrusts in a sex scene? The Idea that you cans see as many people get shot as you want as long as no single death is shown as exploited or realistic. And all of this takes precedence over the actual story line or theme of the movie. It is ridiculous. Any parent who looks at the most basic plot line of (Neighbors, New parents go to battle with the fraternity that just moved in next door) and thinks this is going to be great family fun for the kids, is probably not too fit to be a parent. And for the record, when I saw it, some couple brought there baby to it. There baby!!! That's not bad parenting, that's just being an ass tot he rest of the theater goers.
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11:41AM on 06/09/2014

Sin city poster

I agree with Seth. The recent sin city poster is proof that the mpaa is crap. I actually wanted that poster too
I agree with Seth. The recent sin city poster is proof that the mpaa is crap. I actually wanted that poster too
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11:14AM on 06/09/2014
The Irish classification site works very well I think. They (briefly) break down each film to give a better idea of the content.
The British Film Board do it similarly too.
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Why not put that on each poster instead of/as well as a cert?
The Irish classification site works very well I think. They (briefly) break down each film to give a better idea of the content.
The British Film Board do it similarly too.
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Why not put that on each poster instead of/as well as a cert?
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12:09PM on 06/09/2014
I agree, This is very simple and just common sense.
I agree, This is very simple and just common sense.
11:05AM on 06/09/2014
Different parents have different guidelines and it's pretty darn near impossible to have a catch-all ratings system, but I do like themoderntimeskid's suggestion of having ratings indicative of the content itself rather than age gates. Where' I'm from, the ratings go up to R21.
Different parents have different guidelines and it's pretty darn near impossible to have a catch-all ratings system, but I do like themoderntimeskid's suggestion of having ratings indicative of the content itself rather than age gates. Where' I'm from, the ratings go up to R21.
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10:57AM on 06/09/2014
Just goes to show how talented Rogen is when he can still make a hilarious film, even with half the budget.
Just goes to show how talented Rogen is when he can still make a hilarious film, even with half the budget.
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8:00PM on 06/09/2014
Ever wonder exactly what they spend the money on in these movies? I haven't seen Neighbors yet, but besides actors salaries, what exactly cost $18 million in this film?
Ever wonder exactly what they spend the money on in these movies? I haven't seen Neighbors yet, but besides actors salaries, what exactly cost $18 million in this film?
8:00PM on 06/09/2014
Ever wonder exactly what they spend the money on in these movies? I haven't seen Neighbors yet, but besides actors salaries, what exactly cost $18 million in this film?
Ever wonder exactly what they spend the money on in these movies? I haven't seen Neighbors yet, but besides actors salaries, what exactly cost $18 million in this film?
10:52AM on 06/09/2014
I think he kind of has a point, but some sort of system does need to be in place. I always thought it would make more sense to just list whats in the movie and leave out the PG,PG-13, R system all together. Like, list N (for nudity), D (for drug use), G (for gore), etc. That way people can more easily make up their minds to what they want to be exposed to. I mean, Weekend at Bernies 2 has nudity in it, and its rated PG I think.....
I think he kind of has a point, but some sort of system does need to be in place. I always thought it would make more sense to just list whats in the movie and leave out the PG,PG-13, R system all together. Like, list N (for nudity), D (for drug use), G (for gore), etc. That way people can more easily make up their minds to what they want to be exposed to. I mean, Weekend at Bernies 2 has nudity in it, and its rated PG I think.....
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11:50AM on 06/09/2014
I agree. N for nudity or D for drug use and other abbreviation would be easier to categorize the rating than just G to NC-17. But G now (General) as for your G, for Gore, would give Disney a gigantic headache, haha.
I agree. N for nudity or D for drug use and other abbreviation would be easier to categorize the rating than just G to NC-17. But G now (General) as for your G, for Gore, would give Disney a gigantic headache, haha.
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