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Two Independence Day sequels in the works, with or without Will Smith

10.27.2011

Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin are back together and finishing up scripts for not one, but two sequels to INDEPENDENCE DAY. Ever since their 1996 hit (800 million worldwide) people have wondered if they had a sequel was in the works, but they soon went their sepereate ways. Devlin's kept a lower profile, working on some tv shows and tv movies, while Emmerich has tried his best to blow up every single landmark in the world with his increasingly ridiculous films. 

So it's good to see them working together on these back-to-back sequels (ID5 and ID6?), but there's just one hitch- Will Smith. Back in 2009 when they first tried to get these films off the ground Smith apparently sought $50 million to work on them both and Fox balked at it, especially in combination with Emmerich's own large salary demands. 

“The delay wasn’t about whether they both wanted to make the movie,” explains one insider, “It had more to do with ‘Whose dick is bigger?’"

They took some time to regroup and put some finishing touches on the scripts but Fox is apparently ready to go forward on these movies without Will Smith.

Of course, you really don't have a movie without Smith, do you? It was the movie that made him a star, and he's synonymous with it. And that $50 million would certainly be a wise investment, because everyone and their mother would go see this flick. The one good thing for Fox is that Will Smith doesn't have anything in the works, and with the exception of MEN IN BLACK 3 he hasn't made any other films in the last three years, certainly increasing audience anticipation for him to star in another blockbuster. You know, one that doesn't involve suicide by jellyfish.

As for what the new INDEPENDENCE DAY films will be about, no one really knows. NY Mag is reporting that they will tell a single story but be more like BACK TO THE FUTURE PARTS 2 AND 3, where they're two movies that stand up on their own, rather than a single movie chopped in half like the two HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS flicks.

My one request to the producers? Bring back Jeff Goldblum. He's, ah, he's been, you see- he's been gone too long, ah.

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8:42PM on 11/05/2012

Jeff Goldblum?

I LOVE this movie! How could I have forgotten Jeff Goldblum was in it?
I really hope the sequel goes through!
I LOVE this movie! How could I have forgotten Jeff Goldblum was in it?
I really hope the sequel goes through!
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12:14PM on 10/29/2011

You guys seriously need to consider hiring an editor.

Anyway... We all know these movies will make super bank with or without Smith.
Anyway... We all know these movies will make super bank with or without Smith.
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8:14PM on 10/28/2011
It's got to be an absolute pain in the ass for scriptwriters when they're forced to write two separate drafts for a movie - one that contains the awesome main character and one that lacks an awesome main character...and then the studio decides to go for the latter.

Then the movie sucks and people go "I blame the writing"
It's got to be an absolute pain in the ass for scriptwriters when they're forced to write two separate drafts for a movie - one that contains the awesome main character and one that lacks an awesome main character...and then the studio decides to go for the latter.

Then the movie sucks and people go "I blame the writing"
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10:28AM on 10/28/2011
Why? The story was told and finished. There really is no point to this at all.
Why? The story was told and finished. There really is no point to this at all.
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7:39AM on 10/28/2011
doesnt need emmerich as much as it needs smith and goodblum

smith and goldblum sounds like a buddy cop movie screaming to be made
doesnt need emmerich as much as it needs smith and goodblum

smith and goldblum sounds like a buddy cop movie screaming to be made
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3:10AM on 10/28/2011
As long as more aliens get knocked out by one punch I'm happy! If these films to go ahead they need Will Smith & Goldblum it's as simple as that! Hopefully Bill Pullman is still in office. My only disappointment: No Randy Quaid!
As long as more aliens get knocked out by one punch I'm happy! If these films to go ahead they need Will Smith & Goldblum it's as simple as that! Hopefully Bill Pullman is still in office. My only disappointment: No Randy Quaid!
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2:35AM on 10/28/2011
hmm? can it be done without Goldblum and Smith? I don't really think so, and what happened to Men In Black 3? Shouldn't there be a trailer by now?
hmm? can it be done without Goldblum and Smith? I don't really think so, and what happened to Men In Black 3? Shouldn't there be a trailer by now?
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11:00PM on 10/27/2011
I wouldnt mind if they also integrated part of the prequal book into the movies. It gave some interesting context on how area 51 started and how they found out about the aliens.
I wouldnt mind if they also integrated part of the prequal book into the movies. It gave some interesting context on how area 51 started and how they found out about the aliens.
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9:32PM on 10/27/2011
I'd love to see a new ID4 flick and jeff goldblum has to come back as well!!
I'd love to see a new ID4 flick and jeff goldblum has to come back as well!!
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7:27PM on 10/27/2011
"Welcome to Earf!"
"Welcome to Earf!"
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6:53PM on 10/27/2011
Independence Day sucked and all of Emmerich's films suck.
Independence Day sucked and all of Emmerich's films suck.
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11:08PM on 10/27/2011
Stargate - good and weird
ID4 - good but dumb
Godzilla - neat but stupid
Everything after - nightmare
Stargate - good and weird
ID4 - good but dumb
Godzilla - neat but stupid
Everything after - nightmare
6:27PM on 10/27/2011
I ain't heard no fat lady so I can't wait!
A story that could easily turn into a massive trilogy. If Goldblum isn;t back though, my excitement will be about 70% lower.
I ain't heard no fat lady so I can't wait!
A story that could easily turn into a massive trilogy. If Goldblum isn;t back though, my excitement will be about 70% lower.
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6:05PM on 10/27/2011
I hope someone says "Jimmy, NOOO!!!" in both sequels, because that's my favorite line from the first movie. I use it all the time to express sadness at the death of good characters in movies.
I hope someone says "Jimmy, NOOO!!!" in both sequels, because that's my favorite line from the first movie. I use it all the time to express sadness at the death of good characters in movies.
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7:30PM on 10/27/2011
I thought I was the only one who did that! But I use it all the time!

Boss- "Can you work late tonight?"

Me: "Jimmy, NOOOO!"

People just end up looking at me like I'm crazy, and walk away, so it works for me!
I thought I was the only one who did that! But I use it all the time!

Boss- "Can you work late tonight?"

Me: "Jimmy, NOOOO!"

People just end up looking at me like I'm crazy, and walk away, so it works for me!
11:05PM on 10/27/2011
HIGH FIVE!
HIGH FIVE!
5:54PM on 10/27/2011
Much like the recent Dumb & Dumber sequel, No Jim Carrey or no Jeff Daniels = No me.

Independence Day. No Will or no Jeff = no for me too.
Much like the recent Dumb & Dumber sequel, No Jim Carrey or no Jeff Daniels = No me.

Independence Day. No Will or no Jeff = no for me too.
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5:51PM on 10/27/2011
Smith ruined the 1st one so I really hope he doesn't return.
Smith ruined the 1st one so I really hope he doesn't return.
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6:29PM on 10/27/2011
Ummm...no he didn't.
Ummm...no he didn't.
4:00PM on 10/29/2011
Will Smith ruins everything he's in.
Will Smith ruins everything he's in.
5:51PM on 10/27/2011
Sequels is fine and all, BUT WHAT ABOUT BOOMER?!
Sequels is fine and all, BUT WHAT ABOUT BOOMER?!
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6:29PM on 10/27/2011
BOOMER WILL LIVE!!
BOOMER WILL LIVE!!
10:56PM on 10/27/2011
Commence joyous squealing.
Commence joyous squealing.
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4:41PM on 10/27/2011
So, they are going to do this after all. Well, in that case:

Jeff Goldblum is critical to this. After all, he's the guy who actually ended up saving the world. Is Margaret Colin even still working? Because if you have David, you need Constance.

There are so many possibilities, and yet, so many ways to screw this up. I'm kinda sorry since after 2012 Emmerich said they weren't in fact working on another (a rumor had been making the rounds). I'd really just be curious what character actors
So, they are going to do this after all. Well, in that case:

Jeff Goldblum is critical to this. After all, he's the guy who actually ended up saving the world. Is Margaret Colin even still working? Because if you have David, you need Constance.

There are so many possibilities, and yet, so many ways to screw this up. I'm kinda sorry since after 2012 Emmerich said they weren't in fact working on another (a rumor had been making the rounds). I'd really just be curious what character actors they'd want to enlist to fill out the cast. Just don't turn this into Transformers, just because you can now. The concept was better than that.
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4:38PM on 10/27/2011
I thought the film was okay, but worth enough for sequels. And with or without Smith? The movie will definitely bring money if he's in it obviously. And for the film trying to be a franchise? Money will still come. But lately, I don't even know what will be a success at the box office.
I thought the film was okay, but worth enough for sequels. And with or without Smith? The movie will definitely bring money if he's in it obviously. And for the film trying to be a franchise? Money will still come. But lately, I don't even know what will be a success at the box office.
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4:23PM on 10/27/2011
It's not just Smith who needs to return. Goldblum may not be an A-lister in his own right, but coupled with the ID4 franchise he'd put butts in seats. Same goes for Prez Whitmore aka Bill Pullman.

Fox should suck it up, pay Smith his $50 million, in fact get just about the entire cast back together from Golblum's ex-wife to his father and so on and just make the sequels we always wanted.
It's not just Smith who needs to return. Goldblum may not be an A-lister in his own right, but coupled with the ID4 franchise he'd put butts in seats. Same goes for Prez Whitmore aka Bill Pullman.

Fox should suck it up, pay Smith his $50 million, in fact get just about the entire cast back together from Golblum's ex-wife to his father and so on and just make the sequels we always wanted.
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4:23PM on 10/27/2011

Love the Extra Tidbit

I love this movie and I'm very passionate about the sequels being good. So here is my two cents as a fanboy. Just my imagination running here so don't bash me to badly.

First you have to bring back the cast. When I watch this film, sure I love the alien side of it and the action, but what makes the movie is the characters. Not just Smith, Goldblum, and Pullman but Robert Loggia who played General William Grey, Judd Hirsch who played Julius aka Goldblum's dad (one of my favorite characters),
I love this movie and I'm very passionate about the sequels being good. So here is my two cents as a fanboy. Just my imagination running here so don't bash me to badly.

First you have to bring back the cast. When I watch this film, sure I love the alien side of it and the action, but what makes the movie is the characters. Not just Smith, Goldblum, and Pullman but Robert Loggia who played General William Grey, Judd Hirsch who played Julius aka Goldblum's dad (one of my favorite characters), Margaret Colin who played Constance aka Goldblum's ex wife and especially Adam Baldwin who played Major Mitchell. You need to try and get them all back on board and trust me besides Adam Baldwin, none of them are very busy. I'm not really worried about Vivica A. Fox because I wasn't crazy about her character, but we can bring her back anyway. The cast is where I do put faith in these possible sequels, because it seems Emmerich likes big casts in his films. In all of his movies there are always lots of characters, each normally having their own storyline....which sometimes is not such a good thing.

Secondly, the story has to be right. The two things I have kept hearing over the past fourteen years is that they are either going to take the fight to the alien planet or their will simply be a second wave. Now with them doing these films back to back, it could very easily start with a second wave and then end with the third film heading to the alien planet.

They have a lot of story potential with these sequels so here are some of my personal ideas for the sequels. When the first one ended, there were like a hundred crashed ships on the planet and a lot of them were still pretty intact, so they should have a ton of information on the alien technology and possibly their home world. This would cause me to make Area 51 a huge part of the films. I would have it relocated in the mountains of Utah somewhere, and just make it a massive base. Instead of three bodies, they now have around fifty intact and pieces of hundreds of other bodies. Instead of one hangar with one ship, they now have tons of hangars with big ships, little ships and hybrid ships. I would put Goldblum as the new head of Area 51 and I would put Smith as the head of an Area 51 military group, which would open up some roles for some cool new characters kinda like the marines from Aliens. I think there is a lot of story potential with Pullman's role. Fourteen years have passed which doesn't mean that is when the story should necessarily pick up, but I would have a new President in the film and maybe make it ten years later. I like the idea of a second wave coming to take revenge on Earth for destroying them all the first go around, and when this happens, the new President makes some bad decisions and then everyone turns to Pullman to take over making decisions. Or maybe make him the head of NATO now where he makes decisions for multiple countries. Like I said, there are a couple of different ways to go with his character.

With all the alien technology they have now, that can open the door for some really cool stuff in the film. In the first film, they had jet fighters. Now they can have some kind of alien ship/jet hybrid. They could also have some advancements in weaponry. But on the flip side, I would have the aliens have some cooler stuff in this one as well. In the first film, when Smith and Goldblum enter the mothership, one of my favorite scenes was how they teased us with an invasion. You saw all those aliens lined up, ready to go, but was stopped before they could invade Earth. I want to see that in the sequel. I want the aliens loose on the planet fighting at least in a few scenes, but that could be tricky. You can't go and change the look of the aliens from the way they looked in the first film, but it would be hard to have them just running around because of the way they were designed. But maybe you could have a new breed of aliens in this one to where you have the old kind and the new kind. If you remember, the aliens were in suits, so they could very easily have a few different kinds of suits and it be believable to the viewer.

I'm not sure how you could do that story alone for two films, so it looks like they would take the fight to them at their planet for the third film. That is where the story would get too complicated for me. I mean you could probably get away with saying that a way was discovered using their technology to travel at the speed of light so you could get to the planet easier and quicker and there is a tracking beacon on all the ships so they know how to get there, but I can't picture a cool looking alien planet. I mean they are obviously intelligent lifeforms so there should be cities and things of that nature in my opinion. I just can't imagine Smith and Goldblum running around an alien planet.

Bottom line is this. If Goldblum isn't back on board, I wouldn't do it. I don't think the fans really care about Smith's character alone. I realize they would bring in new characters if this were the case, but I don't think anyone would be nearly as interested.

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So what can they do to make these sequels a hit?

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4:10PM on 10/27/2011

Bring Back Jeff!

Without Goldblum, this movie loses half of its charm as far as I'm concerned. I love Smith, but the two of them together is what makes the original what it is.

The last line of this article is priceless lol
Without Goldblum, this movie loses half of its charm as far as I'm concerned. I love Smith, but the two of them together is what makes the original what it is.

The last line of this article is priceless lol
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4:03PM on 10/27/2011

Ba da BING!

“It had more to do with ‘Whose dick is bigger?’"

I'm gonna guess there is about Six Inches of Separation on that one.
“It had more to do with ‘Whose dick is bigger?’"

I'm gonna guess there is about Six Inches of Separation on that one.
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4:08PM on 10/27/2011
Zing!
Zing!
4:25PM on 10/27/2011
Ba-Zinga!
Ba-Zinga!
2:38AM on 10/28/2011
LOL!
LOL!
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