Latest Entertainment News Headlines

Your thoughts: T4!

05.22.2009

We've run two reviews from TERMINATOR SALVATION on the JoBlo Network this week and you couldn't get two different reviews. JimmyO said in his review, "And the problem is, much of what Salvation brings to the forefront has very little to offer for the storyline as a whole. Over half of these characters you could’ve gotten rid of...If you go in hoping for another great Terminator film, you are going to be disappointed." Yet Arrow reviewed the film and called it, "entertaining, eye popping and mind blowing!"

We've been covering TERMINATOR SALVATION almost non-stop going all the way back to our coverage at Comic-Con. Since then we've showed off an exclusive HD clip from the film, eight additional clips and, today, an interview with TERMINATOR star Common.

So after all of that, where do you think you'll stand? Disappointed like JimmyO? In love like Arrow? Or somewhere in between? As we often like to do, we'll leave this article and its strikebacks open all weekend so you can post your reviews below.

In closing I leave you with this College Humor video, which begins to explain why Terminators are always transported butt naked...

Source: JoBlo.com

RECOMMENDED MOVIE NEWS

MORE FUN FROM AROUND THE WEB

Strikeback
Not registered? Sign-up!
Or

9:47PM on 05/27/2009

Huge fan!

I even liked Terminator 3 because you actually got to see the beginning of Judgement Day and how John Conner survives it. I really didnt have any expectations going in, just hopes that it would be awesome and stick with the Terminator mythos and it delivered in those aspects nicely. Major plus with the CGI Arnold, he didnt even look computer generated. Great set up movie that leaves the viewer begging for a few more, so long as Bale reprises! We shall see!
I even liked Terminator 3 because you actually got to see the beginning of Judgement Day and how John Conner survives it. I really didnt have any expectations going in, just hopes that it would be awesome and stick with the Terminator mythos and it delivered in those aspects nicely. Major plus with the CGI Arnold, he didnt even look computer generated. Great set up movie that leaves the viewer begging for a few more, so long as Bale reprises! We shall see!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:29PM on 05/27/2009

!

See it an judge ! Absolutly not that bad ! Not much edithing, but great film in the moon of T1 and T2 !
See it an judge ! Absolutly not that bad ! Not much edithing, but great film in the moon of T1 and T2 !
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:20PM on 05/27/2009

My .02

Ok, first off, please excuse my delay on the print of my .02 on this one. Don’t know if you were expecting it or not, but here it goes. WARNING: May include some spoilers…dear shmoe.

I have to ask you first, what were your expectations on this movie?

If you are a hardcore Terminator Fan who has stuck to the Sarah Connor series along with all the movies and owns T-800 underwear (no shame in that) then, you’re most likely to be disappointed in this movie. If you’re not any of the previous
Ok, first off, please excuse my delay on the print of my .02 on this one. Don’t know if you were expecting it or not, but here it goes. WARNING: May include some spoilers…dear shmoe.

I have to ask you first, what were your expectations on this movie?

If you are a hardcore Terminator Fan who has stuck to the Sarah Connor series along with all the movies and owns T-800 underwear (no shame in that) then, you’re most likely to be disappointed in this movie. If you’re not any of the previous however…you won’t.

I can see why a fan would dish out this movie in particular. The major good change on this flick is that it finally moves me away from the cat and mouse thrill that drove me insanely desperate to punch the TV while yelling at Sarah “RUN BITCH RUN FO YO LIFE!!!” on Terminator, then was successfully driven to exhaustion on Terminator 2: Judgement Day (T2), and then drove me to punch my TV’s screen (had to actually buy me a new one) while yelling at the T-X “that’s enough chasing John…BITCH!!!” on Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (T3). There were some cheesy lines mimicking the previous movies and the movie did lack some solid acting, along with some characters I could’ve been fine without (what was the purpose of the mute-deaf girl??? And what’s worse…how did she survive it this far?!?!?!?!?!). Besides these, the movie did have a solid entertainment factor. I enjoyed the emotional dilemma given by Marcus. I also enjoyed the fact that humans were actually attacking Marcus who basically ended up being their savior. But I’m still in doubt as to why were the machines taking humans as prisoners? Were they bait? I dunno…

The film does keep you on edge for the majority of the time, drawing you close to the edge of your seat, but then taking you back to the headrest during the development of the plot that became, in the middle of the film, a bit predictable. For Arnold’s fans…I will say I enjoyed going back in time and seeing him as if he had not aged a bit (was that him??? Really??? Also, wasn’t his hair spiked on the first Terminator??? How come it wasn’t on this one??? Seeing the movie was set on the time line in which he was being stored so he can go back in time and chase Kyle Reese along with Sarah Connor. Or…I could be seeing things). Whoa! That was a long parenthesis. Anyways, my .02 forces me to give this movie a solid 7.5/10, for I didn’t mind spending my money seeing it, you can enjoy it with your girl, father or mother, just leave the kid at home, along with grandma…she wouldn’t understand it anyways.

again 7.5/10, and that is a good rating. ppl!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:37AM on 05/27/2009

El Director

"THE HATERS NO NOTHING"

It looks like they're not the only ones...
"THE HATERS NO NOTHING"

It looks like they're not the only ones...
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:16AM on 05/27/2009

The haters no nothing!

I thought that this installment in the New Terminator universe was on par with thhe rest.
All the haters who were bashing TS obiviously don't know how to pay attention to what is going on on the screen in front of them.
The action was very satisfying and could of been horrible if not executed properly. McG did a fine job of directing the action and I believe he didn't bring anything new to the series that could hurt it. Sure some of the characters could of been fleshed out a little more, but
I thought that this installment in the New Terminator universe was on par with thhe rest.
All the haters who were bashing TS obiviously don't know how to pay attention to what is going on on the screen in front of them.
The action was very satisfying and could of been horrible if not executed properly. McG did a fine job of directing the action and I believe he didn't bring anything new to the series that could hurt it. Sure some of the characters could of been fleshed out a little more, but it didn't hurt the overal film. I went in to see a war of man vs machine and that is what I got.
As far as Christian Bale's performance of John Connor being "souless and devoid of emotion." He's been dealing with his future since he was a kid and his emotions have left him. He is knumb to everything now. He wants it to be over and he just moves forward, accepting his fate.
Worthington was great as Marcu Wright and yeah I did think there was a little more between Marcus and Moon Bloodgood's character, but did it really matter. This wasn't some Terminator love story.

I give it a 8/10.
This is just
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:47AM on 05/26/2009

Pilot1282

Jesus Christ! Punctuation much?
Jesus Christ! Punctuation much?
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:37PM on 05/25/2009
i liked it alot plus people dear lord its just a movie a its terminater its not supposed to have a huge plot terminator tries to kill everyone the end lol but i did like it alot and will see it again probaly this week
i liked it alot plus people dear lord its just a movie a its terminater its not supposed to have a huge plot terminator tries to kill everyone the end lol but i did like it alot and will see it again probaly this week
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:51PM on 05/25/2009

cant tell ya

i dont watch pg13 action movies - they're for pussies
i dont watch pg13 action movies - they're for pussies
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:59AM on 05/25/2009
I actually liked it a lot. Like others, I was worried after all the negative reviews. I was expecting a big pile of shit, but I was pleasantly relieved that it wasn't. It certainly was a lot better than T3.

That said, I felt it could have, and deserved, to be better. What it needed was a stronger script and a better director. McG is good with action, I'll give him that. But the Terminator flicks have always been about the characters, and you need a director who is not only good with
I actually liked it a lot. Like others, I was worried after all the negative reviews. I was expecting a big pile of shit, but I was pleasantly relieved that it wasn't. It certainly was a lot better than T3.

That said, I felt it could have, and deserved, to be better. What it needed was a stronger script and a better director. McG is good with action, I'll give him that. But the Terminator flicks have always been about the characters, and you need a director who is not only good with action, but good at directing actors if you're going to direct a Terminator movie. That ain't McG. But I'll admit, he could've done a lot worse.

A lot of the reviews have been slamming Bale in this movie. That it's obvious he doesn't give a shit about the movie and he's just phoning it in. So, is that why he flipped out on the DP for walking in his sightline during the middle of a scene? Because he didn't give a shit? I sure as hell don't think so. His mere presence alone added a lot to the flick, I felt, and I was happy to have a badass John Connor finally and not that whiny pusscake from T3.

Things that bugged me the most were characters that could've been either taken out or fleshed out more. I would've liked to see more between Connor and his wife. And I agree with others that there was definitely some unexplored territory between Moon Bloodgood's character and Marcus.

Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese was definitely my favorite. Personally, I hope they focus mainly on Reese in the next one. That, and they have a stronger script and a better director. I think someone like Martin Campbell would be a good fit for the job.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:19AM on 05/25/2009
I didn't think it was horrible. Like everyone else has already said, poor character development, weak plot, wooden acting and accents that come and go.

Also, those are some of the shittiest resistance fighters I have ever seen. John Connor's whole platoon can't even hit 2 people as they run through a mine field?!?

The best part of the film for me was when it over and my wife turned to me and said, "I'm going to have nightmares about that Robocop dude." (She was referring to the T-800
I didn't think it was horrible. Like everyone else has already said, poor character development, weak plot, wooden acting and accents that come and go.

Also, those are some of the shittiest resistance fighters I have ever seen. John Connor's whole platoon can't even hit 2 people as they run through a mine field?!?

The best part of the film for me was when it over and my wife turned to me and said, "I'm going to have nightmares about that Robocop dude." (She was referring to the T-800 that John Connor and Marcus Wright fight)
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:10PM on 05/24/2009
It was a good movie, I like it a lot. Just Not a fan of the very end, but that won't impede my attitude towards the movie.
It was a good movie, I like it a lot. Just Not a fan of the very end, but that won't impede my attitude towards the movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:49PM on 05/24/2009
BADASS MOVIE
BADASS MOVIE
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:32PM on 05/24/2009
This was a solid flick. The overwhelming negative reviews had me concerned right before I saw it, but there was no reason to fear. Most of the critics who tore it apart weren't too familiar with the previous films in the franchise so it made shit for sense to them. I respect McG for not spoon-feeding us, he expected the audience to know the Terminator story. Bale and Worthington were great as expected, but I was surprised by how much I liked Moon Bloodgood in her role. It seemed there was a lot
This was a solid flick. The overwhelming negative reviews had me concerned right before I saw it, but there was no reason to fear. Most of the critics who tore it apart weren't too familiar with the previous films in the franchise so it made shit for sense to them. I respect McG for not spoon-feeding us, he expected the audience to know the Terminator story. Bale and Worthington were great as expected, but I was surprised by how much I liked Moon Bloodgood in her role. It seemed there was a lot of story between Blair and Marcus cut and I hope it will be intact on the inevitable unrated DVD. I would have liked to have seen more stuff with John and Kate Connor as well. Bryce Dallas Howard was almost wasted. Anton Yelchin was fantastic as Kyle Reese, I could believe him becoming the man we saw in 1984 (or is it 'will see'? Who the hell knows?). Bottom line... I hope it makes enough box office to warrant a sequel. It will probably be even better.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
6:30PM on 05/24/2009
The people who are bashing this T4 don't even seem to understand what it's about. I also find it funny how people keep saying it was all action and no story. First of all, it had far less action that T2--more elaborate action, but less actual action, but more importantly it had a great story which made perfect sense and was the next logical step for this franchise to take. Great performances all around, wonderful homages to the first couple of Terminator movies...just a great film period.
The people who are bashing this T4 don't even seem to understand what it's about. I also find it funny how people keep saying it was all action and no story. First of all, it had far less action that T2--more elaborate action, but less actual action, but more importantly it had a great story which made perfect sense and was the next logical step for this franchise to take. Great performances all around, wonderful homages to the first couple of Terminator movies...just a great film period.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:54PM on 05/24/2009
I also love that people don't realize that the whole time travel thing that happened in the first, second and third movies started a different thread of time causing things to be different. WHY wouldn't skynet know that Kyle is John's father???... Well Sarah does say that a man from the future came back and fathered her child John. It is in her records at the Mental hosp. come on it really isn't that hard to follow!! Also as the box office goes... WB made another film with the same budget
I also love that people don't realize that the whole time travel thing that happened in the first, second and third movies started a different thread of time causing things to be different. WHY wouldn't skynet know that Kyle is John's father???... Well Sarah does say that a man from the future came back and fathered her child John. It is in her records at the Mental hosp. come on it really isn't that hard to follow!! Also as the box office goes... WB made another film with the same budget after the third film flopped badly. So they know that dvd, and fan base count for something. cant wait to see the next two. That is where the story will begin big. This was just the first stepping stone in a new future for the franchise that was getting old with the same routine. That is why the Sarah Connor Chronicles was such a great show.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:50PM on 05/24/2009
With all the negative reviews I didn't expect much, but walked away pleasantly surprised. I though the movie was all kinds of awesome and I really dug the story. The action sequences were great and the Terminators have never been more menacing. Despite the bad reviews I thought this movie would rake in the cash. What the hell people. Stop listening to the complaining haters and go see a badass movie.
With all the negative reviews I didn't expect much, but walked away pleasantly surprised. I though the movie was all kinds of awesome and I really dug the story. The action sequences were great and the Terminators have never been more menacing. Despite the bad reviews I thought this movie would rake in the cash. What the hell people. Stop listening to the complaining haters and go see a badass movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:46PM on 05/24/2009
Opening up against one of the bigest family movies of this year that isn't animated, I think that this movie did very well considering all the negetive reviews from critics that didn't have a clue they were going to watch a WAR MOVIE!!!! The true fans enjoy it. It is way better than T3 and it got the tone and feel right for the future battles. It is freaky how close it is to T3 with money earned so far, but I would bet that this one has stronger legs since fans will spread the word that it is
Opening up against one of the bigest family movies of this year that isn't animated, I think that this movie did very well considering all the negetive reviews from critics that didn't have a clue they were going to watch a WAR MOVIE!!!! The true fans enjoy it. It is way better than T3 and it got the tone and feel right for the future battles. It is freaky how close it is to T3 with money earned so far, but I would bet that this one has stronger legs since fans will spread the word that it is a good movie, but will be better on Blu-ray. The pg-13 rating is NOTHING!!! if T2 came out this year it would be rated PG-13!!!1 there isn't shit in that movie that justifies it being R, same as T3. It makes no sense. Stop crying that it isn't rated R for no reason!!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:39PM on 05/24/2009
I love this movie and think it is every bit as good as T2. To me, T2 is being judged way higher than it should be and T4 lower than it should be. I read all the negative stuff and I find it to be less about the movie itself and more about bullshit stuff like the director or the score.

This is the 4th movie in the series and this movie was made to show a three part future war between the humans and the machines. We do not need a Pirates like complicated story line. We already know the
I love this movie and think it is every bit as good as T2. To me, T2 is being judged way higher than it should be and T4 lower than it should be. I read all the negative stuff and I find it to be less about the movie itself and more about bullshit stuff like the director or the score.

This is the 4th movie in the series and this movie was made to show a three part future war between the humans and the machines. We do not need a Pirates like complicated story line. We already know the storyline. Many people are going in with a negative attitude and that is fucked up. Why even bothering to see a movie you do not intend to have fun in? Just enjoy it for what it is, an action, sci fi movie. It is a great movie and stop bitching about stuff that does not matter. 8/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:12PM on 05/24/2009

Huge Terminator Fan

After seeing Star Trek I didn't think I would be impressed this much. I hate MCG, so I did not see any previews before hand, or any footage, pics from this movie because I wanted to go in with a fresh perspective. I loved this movie from start to finish, the story was great, the actions sequences kept me on the edge of my seat. This movie was just one fun ride I wish I could experience with fresh eyes again.
After seeing Star Trek I didn't think I would be impressed this much. I hate MCG, so I did not see any previews before hand, or any footage, pics from this movie because I wanted to go in with a fresh perspective. I loved this movie from start to finish, the story was great, the actions sequences kept me on the edge of my seat. This movie was just one fun ride I wish I could experience with fresh eyes again.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:02PM on 05/24/2009

Enough with the bullshit

Before going into this movie, i didn't want to see it. why? all of the negative comments and reviews. but ya know what i discovered? Negativity spreads like wildfire. Terminator salvation not Nowhere near as terrible as most would have you believe. Allow me to break it down for you:

*Most reviews have called the film lifeless and hollow. For the most part that statement is dead on. Within the fist five minutes all of the oxygen, blood, life is drained out of this film. i think maybe it
Before going into this movie, i didn't want to see it. why? all of the negative comments and reviews. but ya know what i discovered? Negativity spreads like wildfire. Terminator salvation not Nowhere near as terrible as most would have you believe. Allow me to break it down for you:

*Most reviews have called the film lifeless and hollow. For the most part that statement is dead on. Within the fist five minutes all of the oxygen, blood, life is drained out of this film. i think maybe it because they either where trying to hard in the wrong direction or weren't trying at all.

*Christian Bale displays only two kinds of acting in the film: Shout and SHOUT LOUDER. Again very true. But it does at lease in my opinion give me some insight into the kind of actor he is.( he needs someone who knows how to direct actors and clearly Mcg, while talented is not the man for that job. however i do have a bit more on that later)

*The score. I understand what Danny elfmen was trying to do here. Create a new score for the franchise while simultaneously alluding the score of the previous films. The problem lies in the execution. Listen closely and you can hear the original terminator theme throughout the film its just in bits and pieces and completely redone. A few bars of it here and a few bars of it there. The other problem is that Danny Completely and utterly fails to establish a new theme. there simply isnt one. I fully Blame Danny for this because there isnt an excuse. You know what franchise your dealing with, you knew what you had to do. you didn't just drop the ball; you never even picked it up. it sounds harsh but that's only because Danny relies to much on the Standard "This music means sadness, This music means action" i hate to see it but here it's true, the recently deceased T:tscc did it better in this area.

*Bryce Dallas howard. I have to forgive her in this. i Truly that she is a very talented actress. However because of her shall we say semi unique beauty she's always trapped in role that require her to look pretty,pit out a few bits of dialogue and move along. i can say that i can forgive her here because her character's pregnant, she shouldn't be in harms way at all. I did buy her as a doctor though way more than i ever would have bought Claire Danes and it's because she looks calculating; somethings always working about behind those eyes. I would have love to have seen more of her characters interactions with her husband especially considering that they weren't to keen on each other in the third film. but where those scenes in the film the would probably do exactly what the film as a whole does itself: nothing.

*Sam Worthington: Sam has done something that only one other actor in this movie has; put on a performance. it does falter at times but i definitely bought it. the only problem with his character is that aside from learning about the war and whats happened to the world ( and showing sky net that even they cant predict the outcome their own plans fully) his character winds up exactly where he was in the first scene at the end of the film. not terrible but again, a whole movie where characters basically do nothing and his, while awesome to watch both emotionally and physically does nothing. But Damn is he Fine.

*aton yelchin: What everyone says is true he gives a good performance and nails bheins kyle.

now the biggest problem i had from the film came with the scene that everyone says they had a problem with: Helena carters "exposition" scene. This scene DOES NOT bring the film to a halt as most of the reviews have stated. i understood i why it was put there, so that marcus could undertand his pupose as skynet see him. prior to seeing the film i was expecting to see this film right in the middle of an action sequence by itself and run a great deal longer than it actually does. It doesn't, it's relatively short and to the point. i think the biggest problem actually comes from Worthington. he's given nothing to do in what is potentially one of the biggest moments in the franchises history. being inside sky net and openly interfacing with sky net itself. Worthington says maybe three or four words and then just pieces out. why not challenge sky net then and there? put a glitch in the system? SOMETHING!? Bad screenwriting here!

sigh, my whole thing here so i can wrap this up, is that film filk is nowhere near as bad as many of you are saying. it just has the terrible plight of doing nothing. The action is amazing and doesnt fall into the trappings of add editing, and the visuals are great (whoever did CG arnies work on this definitely needs to give a lesson to whoever did CG pa tricks in Wolverine especially since Arnold wasn't even there and im sure Patrick was)

I'll give it a 7 outta 10 because it is fun if hollow and is in my opinion way better then terminator three. although t3's ending was good it definitely didn't save the whole film
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
4:01PM on 05/24/2009
I didn't like the movie at all, but honestly guys, you can't put all the blame on McG... I was quite impressed with his ability to direct the action sequences, and the movie had a cool look to it. The script is what drug it down, plain and simple.
I didn't like the movie at all, but honestly guys, you can't put all the blame on McG... I was quite impressed with his ability to direct the action sequences, and the movie had a cool look to it. The script is what drug it down, plain and simple.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:48PM on 05/24/2009

I agree

I agree with you, the movie was awesome! To all of you who hated it: Get a life.
I agree with you, the movie was awesome! To all of you who hated it: Get a life.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:38PM on 05/24/2009

Yikes, WTF people?

I just got back from the film and being a die-hard Terminator fan, I think the movie kicked all kinds of ass. A great story, wicked action and even better acting. I think this is the 2nd best movie of the summer so far after "Star Trek". Can't wait for a 5th movie!

My only major problem with the movie was the horrendous score by Danny Elfman. Terrible!

Rank: 9/10
I just got back from the film and being a die-hard Terminator fan, I think the movie kicked all kinds of ass. A great story, wicked action and even better acting. I think this is the 2nd best movie of the summer so far after "Star Trek". Can't wait for a 5th movie!

My only major problem with the movie was the horrendous score by Danny Elfman. Terrible!

Rank: 9/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
3:38PM on 05/24/2009
This terminator didnt kill the franchise, T3 did. T4 is simply necrophelia
This terminator didnt kill the franchise, T3 did. T4 is simply necrophelia
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:49PM on 05/24/2009

Box Office Numbers

I feel it's tpp early in the day Sunday for anyone to actually say what the real box office numbers are.
I feel it's tpp early in the day Sunday for anyone to actually say what the real box office numbers are.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
2:45PM on 05/24/2009

FLOPoooo!

McG and Bale both disappointed big time with this one, but these numbers don't reflect bad word-of-mouth: moviegoers were already staying away before friends could warn them!

This sucker is going to sink like a stone.

Wolverine is going to do much better than T4, as will Star Trek, so it looks to me like the much-hyped McG Terminator trilogy just hit a brick wall. No Surprise there.

The studio either reboots, changes director, and gets Bale to stop being Johnny One Note in his
McG and Bale both disappointed big time with this one, but these numbers don't reflect bad word-of-mouth: moviegoers were already staying away before friends could warn them!

This sucker is going to sink like a stone.

Wolverine is going to do much better than T4, as will Star Trek, so it looks to me like the much-hyped McG Terminator trilogy just hit a brick wall. No Surprise there.

The studio either reboots, changes director, and gets Bale to stop being Johnny One Note in his portrayal or else... nah, forget it, this franchise is cooked for good.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:26PM on 05/24/2009

Only 43 million?

wow this movie wasn't that bad but yeah McG sucks and needs to hand this franchise over! NOW! pg13 doesn't always mean big bucks and thats karma for pussing out and not making this R
wow this movie wasn't that bad but yeah McG sucks and needs to hand this franchise over! NOW! pg13 doesn't always mean big bucks and thats karma for pussing out and not making this R
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:17PM on 05/24/2009

Box Office Flop!t

Not only is it bad movie, but apparently that led to a box office flop

[link]

Only $43M oppening weekend on a $200M budget must be pissing off some executives. Meanwhile quality big action movies like TDK and Star Trek seem to do great and have great legs in the box office. You would've though that those exects would've learned by now...McG?! Are you kidding me?!!! CHARLIES ANGELS!! HELLOOOOOOO!!!
Not only is it bad movie, but apparently that led to a box office flop

[link]

Only $43M oppening weekend on a $200M budget must be pissing off some executives. Meanwhile quality big action movies like TDK and Star Trek seem to do great and have great legs in the box office. You would've though that those exects would've learned by now...McG?! Are you kidding me?!!! CHARLIES ANGELS!! HELLOOOOOOO!!!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
2:00PM on 05/24/2009

ragekorne

ragekorne, i think u r right on that. Some People just went in to the theaters just to come out hating this movie. Either it be PG-13 rating, or McG directing it or it could possibly be that they want the other robot movie (TF2) to win the battle - I dont know. But it seems that some people already had issues with the movie so as to just hate the movie when it comes out. just my pov, and i am putting the red-box for the negative posts. :)
ragekorne, i think u r right on that. Some People just went in to the theaters just to come out hating this movie. Either it be PG-13 rating, or McG directing it or it could possibly be that they want the other robot movie (TF2) to win the battle - I dont know. But it seems that some people already had issues with the movie so as to just hate the movie when it comes out. just my pov, and i am putting the red-box for the negative posts. :)
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
1:57PM on 05/24/2009

ragekorne

ragekorne, i think u r right on that. Some People just went in to the theaters just to come out hating this movie. Either it be PG-13 rating, or McG directing it or it could possibly be that they want the other robot movie (TF2) to win the battle - I dont know. But it seems that some people already had issues with the movie so as to just hate the movie when it comes out. just my pov, and i am putting the red-box for the negative posts. :)
ragekorne, i think u r right on that. Some People just went in to the theaters just to come out hating this movie. Either it be PG-13 rating, or McG directing it or it could possibly be that they want the other robot movie (TF2) to win the battle - I dont know. But it seems that some people already had issues with the movie so as to just hate the movie when it comes out. just my pov, and i am putting the red-box for the negative posts. :)
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:26PM on 05/24/2009
BTW, that last comment was a negative box for the naysayers. I still think the film deserves a green one.
BTW, that last comment was a negative box for the naysayers. I still think the film deserves a green one.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:25PM on 05/24/2009
That's the problem with a lot of "red boxers". They went into this movie already determined to hate it. Also, like most people with "smarts", they knew this would be a different kind of Terminator flick. Not one that would be cat & mouse, but one that would be about war with a rescue mission. I'm not saying the film was perfect, but to say it's one of the worst films you've seen.....you're a moron. Also, dont worry Housecoat Man, this was a planned first of a "new trilogy" they might yet
That's the problem with a lot of "red boxers". They went into this movie already determined to hate it. Also, like most people with "smarts", they knew this would be a different kind of Terminator flick. Not one that would be cat & mouse, but one that would be about war with a rescue mission. I'm not saying the film was perfect, but to say it's one of the worst films you've seen.....you're a moron. Also, dont worry Housecoat Man, this was a planned first of a "new trilogy" they might yet get to that story about Kyle getting sent back.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:02AM on 05/24/2009

killed the franchise

after i saw where it going to be pg13 i said it would kill the franchise and just be a product of the stuidos trying too hard to make money, ultimately resulting in the franchise being killed. well, the majority of people (mostly those with smarts) hate the movie and box office results are showing that the movie is underperforming and not making blockbuster $$$$$. so it looks like i was right. no more terminators after this mess. GET AN ORIGINAL IDEA, HOLLYWOOD
after i saw where it going to be pg13 i said it would kill the franchise and just be a product of the stuidos trying too hard to make money, ultimately resulting in the franchise being killed. well, the majority of people (mostly those with smarts) hate the movie and box office results are showing that the movie is underperforming and not making blockbuster $$$$$. so it looks like i was right. no more terminators after this mess. GET AN ORIGINAL IDEA, HOLLYWOOD
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:00AM on 05/24/2009

Pretty Good

I thought the movie was very good. It has a good story, great action and solid performance from the main cast.
I thought the movie was very good. It has a good story, great action and solid performance from the main cast.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:36AM on 05/24/2009

no

i absolutely despised this movie. however, the sound design deserves an oscar. it's some of the best i've ever heard in a film. other than that- shite. bland characters, inessential characters, storylines that go nowhere or are chopped off (due to poor direction, editing) without resolution. bad choices of POV on action shots. common is NOT an actor. slept through the last 25 minutes and don't care that i don't know how it ended.
i absolutely despised this movie. however, the sound design deserves an oscar. it's some of the best i've ever heard in a film. other than that- shite. bland characters, inessential characters, storylines that go nowhere or are chopped off (due to poor direction, editing) without resolution. bad choices of POV on action shots. common is NOT an actor. slept through the last 25 minutes and don't care that i don't know how it ended.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:48AM on 05/24/2009

meh

not great...not terrible...

we shouldn't blame Bale though, he had a distracting Director of Photography (sarcasm)


*****SPOILER****




what I don't get is why Kyle Reece and John Conner were the #1 and #2 on Skynet's hitlist...John Conner wasn't the leader of the revolution yet, and nobody should have known that Kyle went back, except for John.
not great...not terrible...

we shouldn't blame Bale though, he had a distracting Director of Photography (sarcasm)


*****SPOILER****




what I don't get is why Kyle Reece and John Conner were the #1 and #2 on Skynet's hitlist...John Conner wasn't the leader of the revolution yet, and nobody should have known that Kyle went back, except for John.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:13AM on 05/24/2009

Totally missed the mark

I was sooooo looking forward to this film and to me it should be a fairly "easy" story to tell considering the great backstory and mythology already established...but nooooooo! It was totally convoluted from the second scene. I totally thought they were going to do the TIME TRAVEL story. That's what this film should've been about was the story of how Kyle Reese and the original Terminator are sent back in time!!! They could have shown why is Kyle Reese special and why he is chosen to wham bam
I was sooooo looking forward to this film and to me it should be a fairly "easy" story to tell considering the great backstory and mythology already established...but nooooooo! It was totally convoluted from the second scene. I totally thought they were going to do the TIME TRAVEL story. That's what this film should've been about was the story of how Kyle Reese and the original Terminator are sent back in time!!! They could have shown why is Kyle Reese special and why he is chosen to wham bam with Sarah Connor etc. They could have ended the film with Reese stepping into the Time Warp to chase after the Terminator etc. It would've been F'ING Amazing!
Instead we get a half assed sequel in which I feel almost nothing for any of the [link] film makes Terminator 3 look like Terminator 2!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:27AM on 05/24/2009

Not bad

It was better than I expected. I loved the sets, and the characters were all pretty good, and the acting was never bad. No character development though.
It was better than I expected. I loved the sets, and the characters were all pretty good, and the acting was never bad. No character development though.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:53PM on 05/23/2009
Its directed by McG....therefore everyone should have known that it was going to suck.
Its directed by McG....therefore everyone should have known that it was going to suck.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
8:52PM on 05/23/2009

6 out of 10

Bale was a huge disappointment.

This could have been an amazing story, but instead it fell far short.

A-film big bucks budget with B-movie results.
Bale was a huge disappointment.

This could have been an amazing story, but instead it fell far short.

A-film big bucks budget with B-movie results.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:28PM on 05/23/2009

Terminator Salvation

This movie will make alot of money either-way,but I think it is a bad Idea for Christen Bale to be in a Terminator Flick.He's good as Batman(Minus His voice),but I feel that him being in Terminator is unnecessary.The role should have went to an unknown,who can act.
This movie will make alot of money either-way,but I think it is a bad Idea for Christen Bale to be in a Terminator Flick.He's good as Batman(Minus His voice),but I feel that him being in Terminator is unnecessary.The role should have went to an unknown,who can act.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
6:20PM on 05/23/2009
It wasn't nearly as good as the first two Terminator movies, but it was still pretty good. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.
It wasn't nearly as good as the first two Terminator movies, but it was still pretty good. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
5:50PM on 05/23/2009
I think McG tried his best with a shitty script...I think he had a good handle on the action and didn't resort to the MTV school of editing, which there's something to be said for that.
Though it still is McG's fault for hiring the screenwriters of T3 and CATWOMAN. Seriously, how do these guys get hired?! After nearly ruining T3, the studio thought, "Yeah, let's give these guys another shot." They have to give amazing head to the studio execs.
I think McG tried his best with a shitty script...I think he had a good handle on the action and didn't resort to the MTV school of editing, which there's something to be said for that.
Though it still is McG's fault for hiring the screenwriters of T3 and CATWOMAN. Seriously, how do these guys get hired?! After nearly ruining T3, the studio thought, "Yeah, let's give these guys another shot." They have to give amazing head to the studio execs.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:42PM on 05/23/2009
Terminator was awesome!! Read my review over at my website.

[link]

check it out!!
Terminator was awesome!! Read my review over at my website.

[link]

check it out!!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:06PM on 05/23/2009

LoCkEd_N_LoAdEd

The first transformers sucked ass and so does Michael Bay. Even if this movie was skimpier on character development than the previous terminators, it is still a thousand times better than any shitty Michael Bay movie.
The first transformers sucked ass and so does Michael Bay. Even if this movie was skimpier on character development than the previous terminators, it is still a thousand times better than any shitty Michael Bay movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
1:43PM on 05/23/2009

McGarbage killed Terminator

Rather than having ever seen Terminator 4, I would have rather taken the $14.50 i spent on that movie, light it on fire IN MY HAND, have the money catch my shirt on fire and burn me to 3rd degree burns that send me to the hospital, and in that hospital all they would play would be Howard the Duck 24/7. This would have been a better use of my time and money
Rather than having ever seen Terminator 4, I would have rather taken the $14.50 i spent on that movie, light it on fire IN MY HAND, have the money catch my shirt on fire and burn me to 3rd degree burns that send me to the hospital, and in that hospital all they would play would be Howard the Duck 24/7. This would have been a better use of my time and money
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:33PM on 05/23/2009

TRANFORMERS 2

WILL TAKE THE BIGGEST SHIT ON THIS MOVIE. HAHA MCG! THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR TALKING SHIT ABOUT MICHEAL BAY!! BITCHH!!!
WILL TAKE THE BIGGEST SHIT ON THIS MOVIE. HAHA MCG! THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR TALKING SHIT ABOUT MICHEAL BAY!! BITCHH!!!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:26PM on 05/23/2009

FUCK YOU McG!!!

but nice work on the action.
but nice work on the action.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:07AM on 05/23/2009

missed the cavs game for this movie

and it sucked.... ridiculously over the top action and a paper thin plot, i left the theater to take a shit for like 20 minutes and didnt miss a single bit of the story... 3/10
and it sucked.... ridiculously over the top action and a paper thin plot, i left the theater to take a shit for like 20 minutes and didnt miss a single bit of the story... 3/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
7:50AM on 05/23/2009

Decent action film with great action pieces, but TERRIBLE Terminator flick.

Great action scenes and special effects. But the script was terrible (what was the story again? Oh yeah... Kyle wants to meet Connor, Reese is capture, Connor rescues Reese, The End), the dialogues ATROCIOUS, the acting awful (except Worthington and the kid playing Kyle Reese), and Bale was so disappointing... I can't bring myself to consider this a Terminator movie despite all the terminators. The score was so UN-terminatorish(F*ck Danny Elfman!) Characters completely uninteresting... No
Great action scenes and special effects. But the script was terrible (what was the story again? Oh yeah... Kyle wants to meet Connor, Reese is capture, Connor rescues Reese, The End), the dialogues ATROCIOUS, the acting awful (except Worthington and the kid playing Kyle Reese), and Bale was so disappointing... I can't bring myself to consider this a Terminator movie despite all the terminators. The score was so UN-terminatorish(F*ck Danny Elfman!) Characters completely uninteresting... No development whatsoever... just plain BAD. A 3.5 out of 10. I mean the acting and story are the level of Bay's shitty SHITFORMERS.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:36AM on 05/23/2009

UNO MAS

ONe more thing I gotta say -- THE ACTION SCENES IN THIS FILM WERE OMEGA SUPREME BADASS. The helicopter crash was incredible like you were really there. You can see every singlwe penny spent on this on screen. also I have to applaud McG (stupid name, but whatever) for not zooming in and ADD quick cutting like sooo many of the shitty directors do nowdays. I was expecting it to be directed and cut like a episode of CSI or SAW 4 (horrible, terrible editing) but was pleasantly suprised! That
ONe more thing I gotta say -- THE ACTION SCENES IN THIS FILM WERE OMEGA SUPREME BADASS. The helicopter crash was incredible like you were really there. You can see every singlwe penny spent on this on screen. also I have to applaud McG (stupid name, but whatever) for not zooming in and ADD quick cutting like sooo many of the shitty directors do nowdays. I was expecting it to be directed and cut like a episode of CSI or SAW 4 (horrible, terrible editing) but was pleasantly suprised! That being said w/ the next film we need to feel the fear of the relentless non stop Terminators -- when the Terminator gets close to Sarah Connor in T1 or John in T2, it immediately goes for the KILL. In T4, it knocks Conner out of the way, fighting hand to hand with him. Err, no. The TERMINATOR has to be brutal and violent, and I just didnt get that from this film. Fix it for the next one. Also get rid of Common, and that girl - they suck. And I completely agree with another poster - SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA -Perfect fit.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:10AM on 05/23/2009

Thinking of the planned trilogy...

Alright I gotta write something about this movie. First off, the only character I really liked was Marcus Wright. I really think we havent seen the last of him - infact I have a theory that Marcus IS John Conners unborn child. And you dont find that out until the last one maybe. Could be very cool... So with that said, and hoping the next 2 films come full circle and do more w/ the characters were introduced to here - I liked it. Things I did not like - Common - uh, why Common and why
Alright I gotta write something about this movie. First off, the only character I really liked was Marcus Wright. I really think we havent seen the last of him - infact I have a theory that Marcus IS John Conners unborn child. And you dont find that out until the last one maybe. Could be very cool... So with that said, and hoping the next 2 films come full circle and do more w/ the characters were introduced to here - I liked it. Things I did not like - Common - uh, why Common and why Common? The Newty mute who seems to be a prop master. Cheesy. Unless she has a big part in the next movies. The PG13, and the fact that THE TERMINATOR isnt as violent! Big BS when Conner just blocks the Terminators punch!!! Also you can tell where they edited out some of the violence. R rated Blu ray? One more thing, SkyNet seems to show up whenever they play a radio (GNR - cool) or blow some shit up, but when they NAPALM the fuck out of a forest - that happen to be right by their base - no Hunter Killers - just wierd piranators. Okaaay. Also Bale plays Conner with no soul or humor whatsoever. But like I said what saves it for me in the end besides the incredible FX, and action scenes was Marcus Wright (and Sam Worthington) and the promise of Yelchin as Reese and hopefully the Epic story of JC - which not coincidentally is the initials for ... well you know. Heres to the Bigger picture with this one. B-
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:07AM on 05/23/2009

walter

those flash backs take place at least 10 years after this movie, and as the points been made many times, they changed the past so the futures different
those flash backs take place at least 10 years after this movie, and as the points been made many times, they changed the past so the futures different
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:56AM on 05/23/2009

2/10

I agree with all the negative comments that have been said here about this movie. Aside from some very brief moments of good action fx, I can't recommend anything about this because everyone involved screwed up this movie in every possible way, from the acting to the look and feel of it to asking us to identify with a new main character we don't know and care nothing about, it was all awful!! On a side note, I haven't seen this anywhere else but does anyone know if when Marcus was showing Kyle
I agree with all the negative comments that have been said here about this movie. Aside from some very brief moments of good action fx, I can't recommend anything about this because everyone involved screwed up this movie in every possible way, from the acting to the look and feel of it to asking us to identify with a new main character we don't know and care nothing about, it was all awful!! On a side note, I haven't seen this anywhere else but does anyone know if when Marcus was showing Kyle how to strap the sawed off shotgun to his arm- they included that in this film to show why Kyle did that in the first Terminator, right? I don't know why I care about that small detail but I just think I remember seeing Kyle do that in the original.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:27AM on 05/23/2009
I enjoyed as much as I didn't enjoy. Like Shockwave said, it does nothing to push the series forward. It really feels kind of empty. I didn't like the look of the film either, it didn't feel continuous with the future that Cameron established. Watch the flash back (forward?) scene from Terminator 1 when Reese enters the underground camp and how downtrodden and filthy the human are, they're even hunting rats for food!! Now look at Kate Connor or Blair (Bloodgood can't act to save her ass), how
I enjoyed as much as I didn't enjoy. Like Shockwave said, it does nothing to push the series forward. It really feels kind of empty. I didn't like the look of the film either, it didn't feel continuous with the future that Cameron established. Watch the flash back (forward?) scene from Terminator 1 when Reese enters the underground camp and how downtrodden and filthy the human are, they're even hunting rats for food!! Now look at Kate Connor or Blair (Bloodgood can't act to save her ass), how clean and pretty they were, perfect white teeth, pressed hair...c'mon!!!

And as cool as some of the bots were, there were too many and they were redundant, like the motorcycles or that flying pancake with an eyeball. That was another thing, I didn't feel intimidated by any of them, there wasn't a sense of danger or a "holy shit" badass kind of character, they were kind of just there and more than half of them were cartoons, and not well made cartoons at that. I don't understand why people think it had such great effects. A good example of this was the molten lava scene toward the end, that was just fuckin' silly. Makes me sad for the days of practical effects.

Bale was brooding as usual but he had a couple emotional mellow moments (only a couple) like when he was listening to the tape recording of Sarah. I think the movie was more Sams than Bales though, even if Worthington wasn't consistent with his accent. I wish they would have overall developed the characters more, made the film a bit more personal because in all honesty I didn't give a shit about any of them.

That being said, it did have a couple decent moments. I thought the helicopter crash scene was pretty sweet, and even though it was another friggin' cartoon and I hated the pristine white hospital surrounding of Skynets interior, seeing Arnies likeness was cool. I wish they would have expanded on that more, emotionally and action wise. Anyways, I really wanted to like this...alot, but it came down to McG. I don't think he did a BAD job, just not a really good one.

5.5/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:27AM on 05/23/2009

7/10

A fantastic action movie that does absolutely NOTHING to push the series forward in any way.

I was thrilled and let down at the same time.
A fantastic action movie that does absolutely NOTHING to push the series forward in any way.

I was thrilled and let down at the same time.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:51AM on 05/23/2009
An okay action movie, nothing more.
An okay action movie, nothing more.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:36AM on 05/23/2009
Everyone needs to go to the website below and check out a real review from some funny people!

[link][link]
Everyone needs to go to the website below and check out a real review from some funny people!

[link][link]
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
3:28AM on 05/23/2009

7/10

Critics tears are really blown out of proportion (especially that fat fuck Harry Knowles). Sure, I would have liked better character development but it's entertaining from beginning to end and unlike T3 it doesn't stomp on what came before it.
Critics tears are really blown out of proportion (especially that fat fuck Harry Knowles). Sure, I would have liked better character development but it's entertaining from beginning to end and unlike T3 it doesn't stomp on what came before it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:57AM on 05/23/2009

7/10

Better than i thought it be but it just seemed cheesy at times. Mostly the dialouge, the "ill be back" line, terrible! And how'd these robots just appear at times? Like the harvester scene, how'd that thing just appear on top of them? You'd hear that thing from a few hundred yards away coming. Luckily it had some good action scenes and great cgi! It's a movie that's definently better at the theaters.
Better than i thought it be but it just seemed cheesy at times. Mostly the dialouge, the "ill be back" line, terrible! And how'd these robots just appear at times? Like the harvester scene, how'd that thing just appear on top of them? You'd hear that thing from a few hundred yards away coming. Luckily it had some good action scenes and great cgi! It's a movie that's definently better at the theaters.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
12:38AM on 05/23/2009
I didn't like it very much.. the script was simply terrible, and dragged the whole movie under. I liked Sam Worthington as Wright, but Bale, as much as I love the guy, overdid it a bit. The movie was just a bunch of explosions and yelling, and it had no soul. I never cared for any of the characters, and it just left me completely unmoved.

6.5/10
I didn't like it very much.. the script was simply terrible, and dragged the whole movie under. I liked Sam Worthington as Wright, but Bale, as much as I love the guy, overdid it a bit. The movie was just a bunch of explosions and yelling, and it had no soul. I never cared for any of the characters, and it just left me completely unmoved.

6.5/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
11:48PM on 05/22/2009
I Liked it. It's nowhere near T1 or 2 but it's certainly better than T3. Some stuff was weak like the love story, the little kid and dialogue for some scenes. But other stuff like the action, the setting, the CGI was really good. I didn't think the acting was all that bad and I must say that Anton Yelchin surprised me in the movie. I liked him here.
I Liked it. It's nowhere near T1 or 2 but it's certainly better than T3. Some stuff was weak like the love story, the little kid and dialogue for some scenes. But other stuff like the action, the setting, the CGI was really good. I didn't think the acting was all that bad and I must say that Anton Yelchin surprised me in the movie. I liked him here.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:34PM on 05/22/2009
If Linda Hamilton approved enough to do voice work then I'm sold. the film was well done although it had rough edits it was edited by the same guy that edited T2 so if there are choppy things then we'll see it on the dvd's or blu-ray. I can't wait to see it again.
If Linda Hamilton approved enough to do voice work then I'm sold. the film was well done although it had rough edits it was edited by the same guy that edited T2 so if there are choppy things then we'll see it on the dvd's or blu-ray. I can't wait to see it again.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:28PM on 05/22/2009
liked it
liked it
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:01PM on 05/22/2009

Furlong

Furlong was the Jar-Jar of T2. I so hated that motherfucker as John Connor. As far as T4, awesome. I really don't understand why people were expecting "Bridges of Madison County" from a Terminator movie.
Furlong was the Jar-Jar of T2. I so hated that motherfucker as John Connor. As far as T4, awesome. I really don't understand why people were expecting "Bridges of Madison County" from a Terminator movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:05PM on 05/22/2009

Anti

the T-800 in the movie was the first and only successfully (up to that point) created one, so why do you think thered be a T-1000 so soon?
the T-800 in the movie was the first and only successfully (up to that point) created one, so why do you think thered be a T-1000 so soon?
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
9:28PM on 05/22/2009

Junk Food For The Soul

I didn't love it or hate it...It just was...I thought the character Marcus was dull and didn't really add anything to the story...while the Cycle Terminators were cool..there wasn't anything really new as far as machines go....Why aren't there any T-1000's in the future?...So to sum it up We just had boring characters yelling their lines and in between some really cool action sequences...still better than Origins though.
I didn't love it or hate it...It just was...I thought the character Marcus was dull and didn't really add anything to the story...while the Cycle Terminators were cool..there wasn't anything really new as far as machines go....Why aren't there any T-1000's in the future?...So to sum it up We just had boring characters yelling their lines and in between some really cool action sequences...still better than Origins though.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:00PM on 05/22/2009
Yeah, yeah, John Connor is 40 now and war is hell on a person, but it would have been nice to see some of that fun wisecracking kid that Eddie Furlong played in T2. I wish Bale would have snatched up that boom box playing Guns N Roses and smiled a little. It would have been cool too if he had said "Uncle Bob?" when he saw the skin covered T-800. But no, Bale played the savior of the future as boring as possible. Marcus was cool though.
Yeah, yeah, John Connor is 40 now and war is hell on a person, but it would have been nice to see some of that fun wisecracking kid that Eddie Furlong played in T2. I wish Bale would have snatched up that boom box playing Guns N Roses and smiled a little. It would have been cool too if he had said "Uncle Bob?" when he saw the skin covered T-800. But no, Bale played the savior of the future as boring as possible. Marcus was cool though.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:39PM on 05/22/2009

Not as bad as Critics claim it is.

I actually really liked it. This felt like a war movie with Terminators in it, and that was the point. Yeah, there's so useless secondary characters in it, but the last 30 minutes alone makes up for the flaws in this movie.
I actually really liked it. This felt like a war movie with Terminators in it, and that was the point. Yeah, there's so useless secondary characters in it, but the last 30 minutes alone makes up for the flaws in this movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:33PM on 05/22/2009

only because of Christian

i loved the flick. it was fun, fast, and cool.
i loved the flick. it was fun, fast, and cool.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:30PM on 05/22/2009
Despite all the harsh reviews for the movie, I thought it was pretty awesome and I can't wait for the next 2 installments. I wrote my own review at my website as well.

[link]


Check it out!
Despite all the harsh reviews for the movie, I thought it was pretty awesome and I can't wait for the next 2 installments. I wrote my own review at my website as well.

[link]


Check it out!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:09PM on 05/22/2009
OK I have bias. Christian Bale is my favorite currently working actor. So that right there makes me automatically bias in any review. I went into the movie expecting something great. Something that would stay with me after I left the theater. I got that. The movie is dark, but not that dark. It feels like an action movie and above all else it is. Characters, important ones, Sam Worthington and Christian Bale are developed, as is Anton Yelchin. These three characters represent our heroes from
OK I have bias. Christian Bale is my favorite currently working actor. So that right there makes me automatically bias in any review. I went into the movie expecting something great. Something that would stay with me after I left the theater. I got that. The movie is dark, but not that dark. It feels like an action movie and above all else it is. Characters, important ones, Sam Worthington and Christian Bale are developed, as is Anton Yelchin. These three characters represent our heroes from present and past. The action in this movie is top notch and I applaud McG (The Director, Charles Angels 1 & 2). He did not use shaky cam. He did not use slow motion. He used steady cameras and used long shots in order to tell the story. I didn't want to be in the action, I wanted to watch it. The CGI was very well done, though some shots may annoy to your particular eye, but I'm watching a movie so I know not everything is real. Some stand out shots are of the helicopter sequences and the larger robots. Speaking of the robots, I think they had some pretty creative ones. Overall, this is the best popcorn experience of the summer I have had and the best character driven action movie I have seen a in a long time. Terminator and T2: Judgment Day are favorites of mine, but this stands above those two. Maybe it is because of my bias, but I would be OK with that. This is a must buy DVD when it comes out and I look forward to seeing what they have in store for us.

On a side note, Sam Worthington is going to be our next big star. He had this movie, he has Avatar later this year and he is the lead in the remake of Clash of the Titans. I was slightly distracted by his accent as he kept going into and out of his Australian accent.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:14PM on 05/22/2009
This wasn't the best movie ever but it was still pretty good. Yeah some of the secondary characters weren't great. Bale may have "phoned it in" but him phoning it in is still better than most. Bumbray's review was overly harsh for what was an entertaining film. And it was far better than T3. The only thing marginally better than T3 is Bumbray's ability to review a film.
This wasn't the best movie ever but it was still pretty good. Yeah some of the secondary characters weren't great. Bale may have "phoned it in" but him phoning it in is still better than most. Bumbray's review was overly harsh for what was an entertaining film. And it was far better than T3. The only thing marginally better than T3 is Bumbray's ability to review a film.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:11PM on 05/22/2009
its good to see the Joblo staff posting their views, opinions,etc in the strike backs more lately. I hope to see more of it. Great review Arrow.
its good to see the Joblo staff posting their views, opinions,etc in the strike backs more lately. I hope to see more of it. Great review Arrow.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:49PM on 05/22/2009
I can already tell that my opinion of this movie is far different than most of yours, but if your in for something a bit different, check out my review. I post the link just because it is quite long and I wouldn't want to bother anyone by putting the whole thing in here.

[link]
I can already tell that my opinion of this movie is far different than most of yours, but if your in for something a bit different, check out my review. I post the link just because it is quite long and I wouldn't want to bother anyone by putting the whole thing in here.

[link]
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:39PM on 05/22/2009

Need to move on.

I dont' know why people don't like this movie. I thought it was good. People need to realize that James Cameron isn't directing these movies anymore, nothing is going to top the first two movies. I know the movie has its faults, but c'mon, its a summer movie. Summer movies are just suppose to entertain you. Things get blown, bad acting will happen, and plot holes are a must. These movies aren't made to win awards. You want a good story and good acting? Go watch "Elizabeth" or "The Bicurious
I dont' know why people don't like this movie. I thought it was good. People need to realize that James Cameron isn't directing these movies anymore, nothing is going to top the first two movies. I know the movie has its faults, but c'mon, its a summer movie. Summer movies are just suppose to entertain you. Things get blown, bad acting will happen, and plot holes are a must. These movies aren't made to win awards. You want a good story and good acting? Go watch "Elizabeth" or "The Bicurious Case of Ben Button."

Anyways, I thought this was a great Terminator movie. I loved all the little hints and sights from the previous movies (including the Universal ride). Sam Worthington was amazing in his role. I know Christian Bale was on cruise control, and even at his worse, he is better than most. Common was the worst of the bad acting. I know the character development was bad with the secondary characters, but who the hell cares in Terminator movie? If you are a fan of the franchise and can go into this movie knowing that nothing is gonna top Terminator 2, you will enjoy this movie.

Sit down, shut up, turn off your mind, and enjoy it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
4:40PM on 05/22/2009

Cheers to Arrow

I have not seen the film yet and will be seeing it pretty soon, but i gotta tell you Arrow (now that u have posted in here), u totally nailed it with your review and your Terminator Series ratings. Your review was certainly quite pleasing and altho, I always read JimmyO's reviews after I have seen the film, I was tempted enough to see his rating and read your whole review.
Few of the comments below are quite amusing with all the hatred and i quite frankly dont get it. I had seen a review where
I have not seen the film yet and will be seeing it pretty soon, but i gotta tell you Arrow (now that u have posted in here), u totally nailed it with your review and your Terminator Series ratings. Your review was certainly quite pleasing and altho, I always read JimmyO's reviews after I have seen the film, I was tempted enough to see his rating and read your whole review.
Few of the comments below are quite amusing with all the hatred and i quite frankly dont get it. I had seen a review where this critic was disappointed because "TS wasnt that spectacular as Bale's last outing (TDK)". I mean, comeon, why do they expect it to be another TDK or even T1 or T2. Let the movie stand on its own, i know, given the fact that its a sequel but it is very very different to the earlier Terminator flicks. Just my point of view and yet again - cheers to Arrow
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:30PM on 05/22/2009

not nearly as bad as critics are saying

I really don't get the critical blasting this is getting. It's definitely not anything close to T2, but I did think it was much better than T3. Were people expecting it to be at the level of Dark Knight? That's an unfair expectation. I don't see how Star Trek is considered the second coming while this is getting totally shit on. Star Trek was fun but forgettable, with some great moments and some utterly laughable ones. I'd put this in the same category. It's not a classic, but it's also
I really don't get the critical blasting this is getting. It's definitely not anything close to T2, but I did think it was much better than T3. Were people expecting it to be at the level of Dark Knight? That's an unfair expectation. I don't see how Star Trek is considered the second coming while this is getting totally shit on. Star Trek was fun but forgettable, with some great moments and some utterly laughable ones. I'd put this in the same category. It's not a classic, but it's also not the steaming pile some would have you believe.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:07PM on 05/22/2009

ENJOYED IT

I'm surprised at all the negative reviews for this movie. I think expectations might have been a little too high. I really enjoyed it. It was MUCH better than T3, but had NO chance of being as good as the first two. Also, with recent films like Ironman, Dark Knight, and Star Trek, Terminator had a lot to try and live up to. I never expected it to, so maybe that's why I enjoyed it so much. It left me wanting more, so I hope it does well enough to justify a sequel. I now see what the big deal is
I'm surprised at all the negative reviews for this movie. I think expectations might have been a little too high. I really enjoyed it. It was MUCH better than T3, but had NO chance of being as good as the first two. Also, with recent films like Ironman, Dark Knight, and Star Trek, Terminator had a lot to try and live up to. I never expected it to, so maybe that's why I enjoyed it so much. It left me wanting more, so I hope it does well enough to justify a sequel. I now see what the big deal is with Sam W. The guy is going to be a huge star. He was flawless in this movie. I thought Bale was as good as he always is. I too was irritated with the little kid though. Overall, it was a really good action flick.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
3:53PM on 05/22/2009

Pretty good

I thought it was pretty freakin' good. It was no T2, but I liked it better than T3 and I thought it filled in the story pretty well. Both Bale and Worthington did a great job. The special effects and action scenes were really good. A few things I didn't like... While it was pretty intense for a PG-13, I noticed a few spots where it seemed like they cut stuff to get that rating (not a big deal though) and I also thought some of the dialogue was cheesy from the unknowns (like Dark Knight) but
I thought it was pretty freakin' good. It was no T2, but I liked it better than T3 and I thought it filled in the story pretty well. Both Bale and Worthington did a great job. The special effects and action scenes were really good. A few things I didn't like... While it was pretty intense for a PG-13, I noticed a few spots where it seemed like they cut stuff to get that rating (not a big deal though) and I also thought some of the dialogue was cheesy from the unknowns (like Dark Knight) but overall I really enjoyed it. It definitely exceeded my expectations and I have faith the McG can make decent movies. I'd give it a 7.5/10

Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:57PM on 05/22/2009

Segregation of skepticism

Why am I neutral? I haven't seen the film yet. But, seeing the pros and cons below, plus the considerable good weight added by Arrow's review, I'm intrigued to the point huges ass winged butterflies are invading my belly. Even though, besides Jimmy's solid write, the rest of the cons here are pretty plain and overly opinionated. Fact is, nobody's really writing WHY they didnt like it, it's mostly rant. I'm going to write tonight about the film. Rain check on my .02. See you in a bit.
Why am I neutral? I haven't seen the film yet. But, seeing the pros and cons below, plus the considerable good weight added by Arrow's review, I'm intrigued to the point huges ass winged butterflies are invading my belly. Even though, besides Jimmy's solid write, the rest of the cons here are pretty plain and overly opinionated. Fact is, nobody's really writing WHY they didnt like it, it's mostly rant. I'm going to write tonight about the film. Rain check on my .02. See you in a bit.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:38PM on 05/22/2009

WOW!

I never thought folks would be THIS divided as to digging or not digging T4. Who knew! I gotta say it, taking in everybody's take on it here, good, bad, in the middle, makes for a groovy read! Good shite!
I never thought folks would be THIS divided as to digging or not digging T4. Who knew! I gotta say it, taking in everybody's take on it here, good, bad, in the middle, makes for a groovy read! Good shite!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:32PM on 05/22/2009

I Loved It!

I really don't get why so many people are beefing with this movie yet SO many people LOVE "Twilight"...

"Salvation" wasn't James Cameron and I don't think anybody with a brain expected it to be. That being said, I can't find a lot wrong with the movie. Worthington was awesome. Bale was awesome. I was invested in Marcus and I was invested in Connor. All of the other characters seemed to come and go without consequence but the principles did their jobs and did them well. I would have
I really don't get why so many people are beefing with this movie yet SO many people LOVE "Twilight"...

"Salvation" wasn't James Cameron and I don't think anybody with a brain expected it to be. That being said, I can't find a lot wrong with the movie. Worthington was awesome. Bale was awesome. I was invested in Marcus and I was invested in Connor. All of the other characters seemed to come and go without consequence but the principles did their jobs and did them well. I would have liked to have seen more of Bryce Dallas Howard but what can you do? Hope for a director's cut I guess.

The effects were great. The Arnold stuff toward the end looked good (which was something I was concerned about going in). Visually the movie was for the most part perfect.

The story wasn't anything new or revolutionary but it was a logical arc. There was a beginning, a middle and an end. I'm interested to see what they do IF they greenlight a T5 or a T6.

This film made for an extremely enjoyable time at the movies...

7/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:55AM on 05/22/2009
If you are talking to me, I just wanna say sorry for not putting SPOILERS above my post. It was a mistake yes, but this is also where people are getting together to discuss their thoughts on Terminator: Salvation after HAVING SEEN it. It should be expected that people are going to discuss certain scenes in this article. It's been the same thing in all of the other YOUR THOUGHTS sections. One should only come here AFTER having seen the movie, that way they can actually debate whether or not
If you are talking to me, I just wanna say sorry for not putting SPOILERS above my post. It was a mistake yes, but this is also where people are getting together to discuss their thoughts on Terminator: Salvation after HAVING SEEN it. It should be expected that people are going to discuss certain scenes in this article. It's been the same thing in all of the other YOUR THOUGHTS sections. One should only come here AFTER having seen the movie, that way they can actually debate whether or not it was any good.

Who wants to see a bunch of posts that say: "Good" "No...bad" "Good" "No...bad" without giving any real reasons.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
11:51AM on 05/22/2009

OTT

this site is starting to get overun by supremem beings with their supreme opinions.

everyones a critic huh!?

my advice, just go out and rent heat.....de niro, pacino and mann at the top of their game, best movie ever


p.s does anybody else think harry knowles is a complete cock!?
this site is starting to get overun by supremem beings with their supreme opinions.

everyones a critic huh!?

my advice, just go out and rent heat.....de niro, pacino and mann at the top of their game, best movie ever


p.s does anybody else think harry knowles is a complete cock!?
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:50AM on 05/22/2009

um...wow...

thanks for the spoilers
thanks for the spoilers
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:47AM on 05/22/2009

8.5/10

I thought this was one pimp ass motherfucking summer action film. I loved the hell out of it. I'm shocked its being met with so much hate. I'm with Arrow on this one.
I thought this was one pimp ass motherfucking summer action film. I loved the hell out of it. I'm shocked its being met with so much hate. I'm with Arrow on this one.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:31AM on 05/22/2009
I've already given my thoughts and score in another post (8 out of 10). I just wanted to add, that while I can accept the negative posts opinions I have to disagree strongly with the film having "no heart". It had a damn cyborg "choosing" to be human! Remind anyone of T2 and Arnold learning what it means to be human? Salvations plot about Marcus getting a second chance from his terrible past (which I too wouldve liked to known more about) was great. Let's see here, he fought for Reese, he
I've already given my thoughts and score in another post (8 out of 10). I just wanted to add, that while I can accept the negative posts opinions I have to disagree strongly with the film having "no heart". It had a damn cyborg "choosing" to be human! Remind anyone of T2 and Arnold learning what it means to be human? Salvations plot about Marcus getting a second chance from his terrible past (which I too wouldve liked to known more about) was great. Let's see here, he fought for Reese, he had moments with Moon Bloodgoods character, and he gave his heart to John Connor. A machine giving his heart to the leader of the resistance. I know some may find that corny, but c'mon....at least it's, uh, heart, is in the right spot. There were plenty of scenes in the movie that featured moral decisions (Connor vs. Military about killing innocents, Moon's decision to help a thing she saw as human, Marcus decision to save John Connor in the end TWICE).

My only problem with the people who are giving it negative reviews are the ones saying it doesnt have any heart or soul. It's there, just open your eyes a little more. (I'm not stupid though, above all I know it's a kick ass, slam bang, explosive summer ACTION flick).
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:18AM on 05/22/2009

boom bang kerplow

Saw it last night and seeing it again tonight. Some of these action scenes I must admit gave me a bit of a fanboy joygasm. McG has made a beautiful slam bang popcorn summer action flick and I'm glad he could at least prove most of his doubters wrong. Of course there are the fans that are impossible to pleases and were never going to like the movie in the first place, wether it be for his name or his past movies. McG didn't mak the movie for those ass clowns. he made it for fans lie us green
Saw it last night and seeing it again tonight. Some of these action scenes I must admit gave me a bit of a fanboy joygasm. McG has made a beautiful slam bang popcorn summer action flick and I'm glad he could at least prove most of his doubters wrong. Of course there are the fans that are impossible to pleases and were never going to like the movie in the first place, wether it be for his name or his past movies. McG didn't mak the movie for those ass clowns. he made it for fans lie us green boxers and Mr. Arrow (great fucking review).
i can see where Jimmy O is coming from and the guy is one of my favorite critics out there. I till have to disagree. I got what I wanted and the McG delivered the goods. Even though I will agree that the editing, though I heard it was bad and thought I wouldn't mind or notice, was pretty god awful at some points. Can't wait for the directors cut or an unrated version. The story is now wide open and I can't wait for a sequel that maybe has a little more story and just as much badassery. 8/10 for me. 9/10 for a summer flick. Congrats McG.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:46AM on 05/22/2009
ALSO:

SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
ALSO:

SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
SAM WORTHINGTON FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:45AM on 05/22/2009
wtf were people expecting in the theater?? this movie delivered. DID PEOPLE WANT A DEEP MOVIE? Its about fucking robots taking over the world!

the action was fucking amazing. the story was good. All actors delivered. the only thing i didnt like was was the flow toward the end where connor/marcus are infiltrating skynet. it seems to be missing some scenes.

8/10
wtf were people expecting in the theater?? this movie delivered. DID PEOPLE WANT A DEEP MOVIE? Its about fucking robots taking over the world!

the action was fucking amazing. the story was good. All actors delivered. the only thing i didnt like was was the flow toward the end where connor/marcus are infiltrating skynet. it seems to be missing some scenes.

8/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
9:31AM on 05/22/2009

Maudibe... really?

Ok I haven't seen the film, but Maudibe,I'm pretty sure this is a thread for T4, not psycho-analyzing the writers on this site. You come off as a huge prick, my man.
Ok I haven't seen the film, but Maudibe,I'm pretty sure this is a thread for T4, not psycho-analyzing the writers on this site. You come off as a huge prick, my man.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:21AM on 05/22/2009
Alright. So this movie wasn't perfect. At all. It has extremely sloppy story telling and even worse editing. It felt like huge gaps in the somewhat mediocre story were missing or left on the cutting room floor. The only reason my box is green is because I wasn't totally pissed when I left the theater.

Christian Bale played Angry Christian Bale and not John Conner. When he enters their secret hide out and everyone stands to salute him, I would kind of like to know exactly why everyone
Alright. So this movie wasn't perfect. At all. It has extremely sloppy story telling and even worse editing. It felt like huge gaps in the somewhat mediocre story were missing or left on the cutting room floor. The only reason my box is green is because I wasn't totally pissed when I left the theater.

Christian Bale played Angry Christian Bale and not John Conner. When he enters their secret hide out and everyone stands to salute him, I would kind of like to know exactly why everyone respects him so much, other than the fact that he yells and gives motivational speeches on the radio.

Kate Conner does virtually nothing the entire film and was a waste of a really great actress. It would of at least been cool for a pack of Terminators to find their way into their little secret base and Kate have to go "Sarah Conner" on their asses with a machine gun. While being pregnant no less.

Anton Yelchin's Kyle Reese was probably my favorite part of the film, even though the role was demoted to saving the mute child named Star, and explaining to us the various Terminators. Overall he was the character I was the most emotionally invested in. Probably because he was also in Star Trek. Which is currently my favorite film this year.

Also. "Hunter Killer"...Thats a really terrible name for a Terminator. The motorcycle ones were pretty sweet. All the actions scenes were pretty spot on and its one of the things the film did well. One of the few things.

Visually I thought it was great, minus a few really really bad effects towards the end of the film (not to spoil much, but a certain cameo was kind of dreadful).

Overall. I enjoyed it, more than I was disappointed, but I think thats just because I went into this film with pretty even expectations. It could of been a hell of a lot better than what it was.

Sam Worthington wasn't a complete waste, but the percentage of the movie's runtime focusing on him was kind of ridiculous. And sometimes felt like Bicentential Man, more so than a Terminator film.

Also. Too many helicopter crashes. I counted at least three. The 1st of which took WAY too long. And another pointless sequence was Blair and Marcus's escape from the Resistance Base. That took FOREVER. It was just them running through a minefield and continuing to prove that the Resistance has really really bad aim.

Best Quote: "The Signal. It's working. It's BEAUTIFUL!!!" - Common

Anyway. I give the movie a 6/10.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
9:16AM on 05/22/2009
IT'S A PIECE OF GARBAGE! IT'S EVEN WORST THAN RISE OF THE MACHINES! Disapointed completely in Christian Bale!!!!
IT'S A PIECE OF GARBAGE! IT'S EVEN WORST THAN RISE OF THE MACHINES! Disapointed completely in Christian Bale!!!!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:02AM on 05/22/2009

NOT SURPRISED

Had a feeling it would suck, looked like it sucked, heard that it sucked, saw it and it sucked.
Had a feeling it would suck, looked like it sucked, heard that it sucked, saw it and it sucked.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:42AM on 05/22/2009

Not a materspiece, but still awesome

As with any director who has a legion of people who hate him, it goes without saying that it doesn't matter how well he does, these people will shit all over his work no matter what. Case in point is Terminator Salvation. All I've heard from Terminator "purists" is that McG is going to fuck this up, that he is incapable of making good movie. Guranteed that all or most of the people with red boxes went into this with that mindset. It's no wonder they hated it, they didn't like it before they
As with any director who has a legion of people who hate him, it goes without saying that it doesn't matter how well he does, these people will shit all over his work no matter what. Case in point is Terminator Salvation. All I've heard from Terminator "purists" is that McG is going to fuck this up, that he is incapable of making good movie. Guranteed that all or most of the people with red boxes went into this with that mindset. It's no wonder they hated it, they didn't like it before they even saw it!

I admit, I was looking forward to this installment of the Terminator Franchise. I at first bought into the hatred for McG, not really giving the film any hope until I saw the NIN trailer. That got me excited to see this. I went into this thing expecting a hell of a ride, and that's exactly what I got.

Now, like my title says, this isn't a masterpiece. There were more than a few things in the film that stuck out like sore thumbs.

The first time wee see the CGI for the T-600 was a little dodgy, but that was the only complaint I had for otherwise perfect CGI and VFX - but still the smallest of my complaints.

There were definite gaps in the storytelling that made say "What The Fuck?" Like if Kyle Reese was the number one target for the machines, why didn't they kill him once they'd identified him? Maybe they didn't know he's John Connor's father? But then why target him specifically? That's something the screenwriters messed up on and McG should have caught and fixed, but oh well.

There was the moment when Bale and Worthington were out by the river, and Bale shouts pretty much out of nowhere, "What are you?!" Didn't need to shout the line, since every other line in that scene was said normally and there was no crescendo of tension. I just imagine McG diggin on Bale's intensity and just brining it out whenever he can. He probably also had that line/exchange in mind for the trailer. Either way, it [the intense shout] just felt a little out of place.

Another WTF moment was near the end where Kyle is faced with a T-800 while trapped in a room, then five or ten minutes later he is seen out and about with no explanation of how he got out. Maybe that was shown in the missing footage JimmyO talked about. Don't know.

My only other main gripe is the lame exposition that Helena's character does near the end - the big reveal of the bad guy's plans felt a little too lame and easy way out for me. It's like the dumb ass bad guy in a Bond movie who explains why and how he did everything, while Bond is tied up before the bad guy plans to execute him. I would have been impressed if they cut that out and done some other original way of finding out the truth.

And the military's unconcern that they would be killing hundreds of human prisoners in a bombardment of SkyNet facilities felt like an obvious ploy to cast John Connor in a better light as the Savior, and the military guys as dipsit who should know better.

With the griping above, it may sound like I hated the fim, or that I noticed too many problems to enjoy it. I actually walked out of the film wanting to see it again! Isn't that the point? I was going to give it a 7/10, just to be a little hard on it, but I really don't have a problem with giving it an 8.

And to KIDD, this was not Wolverine-bad. While Fox and Gavin Hood poured $150 million into Wolverine and you were left wondering if they simply gave it all to Hugh, with Terminator Salvation, you see the result of a $200 million production used to the fullest extent. Wolverine's horridness is almost in a class of it's own, and Terminator is in a class way above it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:34AM on 05/22/2009

Not a materspiece, but still awesome

As with any director who has a legion of people who hate him, it goes without saying that it doesn't matter how well he does, these people will shit all over his work no matter what. Case in point is Terminator Salvation. All I've heard from Terminator "purists" is that McG is going to fuck this up, that he is incapable of making good movie. Guranteed that all or most of the people with red boxes went into this with that mindset. It's no wonder they hated it, they didn't like it before they
As with any director who has a legion of people who hate him, it goes without saying that it doesn't matter how well he does, these people will shit all over his work no matter what. Case in point is Terminator Salvation. All I've heard from Terminator "purists" is that McG is going to fuck this up, that he is incapable of making good movie. Guranteed that all or most of the people with red boxes went into this with that mindset. It's no wonder they hated it, they didn't like it before they even saw it!

I admit, I was looking forward to this installment of the Terminator Franchise. I at first bought into the hatred for McG, not really giving the film any hope until I saw the NIN trailer. That got me excited to see this. I went into this thing expecting a hell of a ride, and that's exactly what I got.

Now, like my title says, this isn't a masterpiece. There were more than a few things in the film that stuck out like sore thumbs.

The first time wee see the CGI for the T-600 was a little dodgy, but that was the only complaint I had for otherwise perfect CGI and VFX - but still the smallest of my complaints.

There were definite gaps in the storytelling that made say "What The Fuck?" Like if Kyle Reese was the number one target for the machines, why didn't they kill him once they'd identified him? Maybe they didn't know he's John Connor's father? But then why target him specifically? That's something the screenwriters messed up on and McG should have caught and fixed, but oh well.

There was the moment when Bale and Worthington were out by the river, and Bale shouts pretty much out of nowhere, "What are you?!" Didn't need to shout the line, since every other line in that scene was said normally and there was no crescendo of tension. I just imagine McG diggin on Bale's intensity and just brining it out whenever he can. He probably also had that line/exchange in mind for the trailer. Either way, it [the intense shout] just felt a little out of place.

Another WTF moment was near the end where Kyle is faced with a T-800 while trapped in a room, then five or ten minutes later he is seen out and about with no explanation of how he got out. Maybe that was shown in the missing footage JimmyO talked about. Don't know.

My only other main gripe is the lame exposition that Helena's character does near the end - the big reveal of the bad guy's plans felt a little too lame and easy way out for me. It's like the dumb ass bad guy in a Bond movie who explains why and how he did everything, while Bond is tied up before the bad guy plans to execute him. I would have been impressed if they cut that out and done some other original way of finding out the truth.

And the military's unconcern that they would be killing hundreds of human prisoners in a bombardment of SkyNet facilities felt like an obvious ploy to cast John Connor in a better light as the Savior, and the military guys as dipsit who should know better.

With the griping above, it may sound like I hated the fim, or that I noticed too many problems to enjoy it. I actually walked out of the film wanting to see it again! Isn't that the point? I was going to give it a 7/10, just to be a little hard on it, but I really don't have a problem with giving it an 8.

And to KIDD, this was not Wolverine-bad. While Fox and Gavin Hood poured $150 million into Wolverine and you were left wondering if they simply gave it all to Hugh, with Terminator Salvation, you see the result of a $200 million production used to the fullest extent. Wolverine's horridness is almost in a class of it's own, and Terminator is in a class way above it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:47AM on 05/22/2009
I loved it. It DID have heart and soul but first it was a war film. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! What the hell did everyone want? another crap fest with time travel old Arnold going to save a different actor with the same outcome?? The third film was dogshit and this one respects the first two with no problems. Looking back on the first two they too have their problems. If you say this movie was pointless you're saying that all of them are pointless. Being a huge fan of the
I loved it. It DID have heart and soul but first it was a war film. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! What the hell did everyone want? another crap fest with time travel old Arnold going to save a different actor with the same outcome?? The third film was dogshit and this one respects the first two with no problems. Looking back on the first two they too have their problems. If you say this movie was pointless you're saying that all of them are pointless. Being a huge fan of the franchise there is no way this film can be considered bad in any way.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
2:39AM on 05/22/2009

PLEASE ERASE THIS FILM FROM MY MEMORY!!!

I'm definately siding with Jimmy O.! So far the T2: Judgement Day remains the best one of all! I won't go into details about how disapointing it was, because I'll just get mad, but, let's just say, this is definately the 2nd worst film of the year, and to date, Christian Bale's worst movie! As Jimmy O. said it best, "It's Christian Bale's Catwoman."
I'm definately siding with Jimmy O.! So far the T2: Judgement Day remains the best one of all! I won't go into details about how disapointing it was, because I'll just get mad, but, let's just say, this is definately the 2nd worst film of the year, and to date, Christian Bale's worst movie! As Jimmy O. said it best, "It's Christian Bale's Catwoman."
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:53AM on 05/22/2009

fuck

the chance to infuse some soul back into terminator was missed.. but the movie was pretty fucking awesome still.. and also, pretty fucking stupid at some points. the two are going hand in hand here.. and it's leaving me with hope for the next few terminator films.
the chance to infuse some soul back into terminator was missed.. but the movie was pretty fucking awesome still.. and also, pretty fucking stupid at some points. the two are going hand in hand here.. and it's leaving me with hope for the next few terminator films.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:43AM on 05/22/2009
whoa, too many green boxes.. I had to get back on here and remind everyone again that it's all mindless, pointless action with no heart and completely wasted characters.

Phew, good thing I'm here.
whoa, too many green boxes.. I had to get back on here and remind everyone again that it's all mindless, pointless action with no heart and completely wasted characters.

Phew, good thing I'm here.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:36AM on 05/22/2009
it was fucking awesome.
it was fucking awesome.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:31AM on 05/22/2009

Pretty Fun

This was a surprisingly fun (I have hated all of McG's other films) and quickly paced action romp with some great set pieces. it also looks pretty damn good, and while yes, the movie is just the future described in the first two come to life, who did not realize that?
8/10
This was a surprisingly fun (I have hated all of McG's other films) and quickly paced action romp with some great set pieces. it also looks pretty damn good, and while yes, the movie is just the future described in the first two come to life, who did not realize that?
8/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:47AM on 05/22/2009
This was an okay movie. Action scenes were great, and I didn't have a problem with the acting or directing, but I would say get some new writers for the sequels. A stronger plot and some better characterization would have went a long way in improving this movie. I liked T3, but was disappointed by the tv show, so this is somewhat of an improvement. My hope is that with the sequels I can appreciate this movie a little bit more as a part of the terminator franchise, because it does feel
This was an okay movie. Action scenes were great, and I didn't have a problem with the acting or directing, but I would say get some new writers for the sequels. A stronger plot and some better characterization would have went a long way in improving this movie. I liked T3, but was disappointed by the tv show, so this is somewhat of an improvement. My hope is that with the sequels I can appreciate this movie a little bit more as a part of the terminator franchise, because it does feel somewhat out of place. And I love Elfman, but would it have killed him to use the terminator theme from the original movies.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:15AM on 05/22/2009

8/10

i really liked it. i went in there as a fan of the franchise but i put that aside cause i knew i wouldnt enjoy the movie as much. This is a war movie. not one machine one target, so you have to change what you expect from the feeling of the movie. this movie was supposed to have very little of john b4 the rewrite so you should feel lucky we saw bale as much as we did. i enjoyed marcus being more of the focal point. and that familiar model busting loose was awesome
i really liked it. i went in there as a fan of the franchise but i put that aside cause i knew i wouldnt enjoy the movie as much. This is a war movie. not one machine one target, so you have to change what you expect from the feeling of the movie. this movie was supposed to have very little of john b4 the rewrite so you should feel lucky we saw bale as much as we did. i enjoyed marcus being more of the focal point. and that familiar model busting loose was awesome
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
11:50PM on 05/21/2009
Oh, and for those of you wondering about Star (the little girl hanging out with Kyle), go back and re-watch the first movie again. Especially the scene where Reese and a woman are taking out a T-1 tank.
Oh, and for those of you wondering about Star (the little girl hanging out with Kyle), go back and re-watch the first movie again. Especially the scene where Reese and a woman are taking out a T-1 tank.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
11:47PM on 05/21/2009
Just got back from seeing this, and it rocked! I'm a pretty big Terminator fan (and, yes, I liked T3 too, so there), and this movie fits in with the rest of the franchise just fine.

It's a war movie. Albeit an unconventional war movie with lots of action. Seriously, some of the reviews I've read make me wonder what the fuck critics were looking for. Terminator is not Gone With the Wind, it's sci-fi action.

T1 - Save Sarah Connor.
T2 - Save John Connor.
T3 - Save Kate Brewster (the
Just got back from seeing this, and it rocked! I'm a pretty big Terminator fan (and, yes, I liked T3 too, so there), and this movie fits in with the rest of the franchise just fine.

It's a war movie. Albeit an unconventional war movie with lots of action. Seriously, some of the reviews I've read make me wonder what the fuck critics were looking for. Terminator is not Gone With the Wind, it's sci-fi action.

T1 - Save Sarah Connor.
T2 - Save John Connor.
T3 - Save Kate Brewster (the future Mrs. Connor).
T4 - Save.....well, now if I told you that, I'd ruin it for you, wouldn't I?

This movie essentially fills in some of the gaps for Terminator fans. It tells a lot about the early days of the resistance, the research into the Terminator lines, and a bit more into a few things we only got glimpses of in the first movie. And for those people shiting on McG as a director, he has three pretty fucking intense action scenes in this movie that are shot on one take without a cut. Think "Children of Men".

Fuck the critics and the finicky fanboys whining about McG not using the same lights as Cameron (or some equally stupid nitpicky bullshit), I'm going to see this again.

Easily an 8/10.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:30PM on 05/21/2009
6/10 - Could have been a lotta worse, but could've been a lot better. Whatever McDouche said about making it faithful to the Terminator series was all BS, it seemed like he was trying to one-up Michael Bay, by giving us nothing but action and big explosions. Heck, there was so much explosions and screaming, that I couldn't make out half of what they were saying. Still entertaining, but T2 is still the best in the series!
6/10 - Could have been a lotta worse, but could've been a lot better. Whatever McDouche said about making it faithful to the Terminator series was all BS, it seemed like he was trying to one-up Michael Bay, by giving us nothing but action and big explosions. Heck, there was so much explosions and screaming, that I couldn't make out half of what they were saying. Still entertaining, but T2 is still the best in the series!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:25PM on 05/21/2009
I'm shocked at the hate this film is getting. Shocked. I have to agree with Arrow on this one, I thought it was a pimp ass summer action flick. I just must have a boner for anything Terminator cuz I liked part 3 as well as this.

This was a completely different type of Terminator flick, which is something I commend. The first 3 were all pretty much cat and mouse movies: Terminator kill good guys. Good guys run from Terminator.

This one was more about both the machines and Connor
I'm shocked at the hate this film is getting. Shocked. I have to agree with Arrow on this one, I thought it was a pimp ass summer action flick. I just must have a boner for anything Terminator cuz I liked part 3 as well as this.

This was a completely different type of Terminator flick, which is something I commend. The first 3 were all pretty much cat and mouse movies: Terminator kill good guys. Good guys run from Terminator.

This one was more about both the machines and Connor thinking they have a real shot at ending the war. The resistance believing the signal could end it all, and the machines believing they made the perfect infiltrator. I thought the movie was excellent really. Nothing will stand up to part 2 in my mind but this definitely earns its spot in the Terminator legacy for me. I thought McG really proved himself. Also, while yes there were some definite throwaway characters (annoying kid Star and Connors wife....Common). I really liked Worthington, Bale, and Yelchin (who made a great Reese). I for one enjoyed the shout outs to previous Terminator flicks. You cant have it both ways, asking for a "Terminator flick" and yet wanting nothing resembling previous Terminators is ridiculous. I honestly dont know what people were expecting with this but I left the movie very satisfied. I enjoyed it even better than Star Trek (dont pretend that movie didnt have its flaws either....i.e. slapsticky scenes like beaming into the random water tubes and a giant alien creature getting scared off by a small torch?)

I look forward to the rest of this "new trilogy" big time. Salvation gets an 8 out of 10 from this T-fan.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:21PM on 05/21/2009
I'm gonna post again and defend this movie, it honestly was a good time. The only flaw is the very end, it was cheap.
I'm gonna post again and defend this movie, it honestly was a good time. The only flaw is the very end, it was cheap.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:23PM on 05/21/2009
Overall id say it was a pretty decent action flick, but the bit with Arnold was what made the movie worth it, i loved it! I wish there woulda been more of him
Overall id say it was a pretty decent action flick, but the bit with Arnold was what made the movie worth it, i loved it! I wish there woulda been more of him
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:40PM on 05/21/2009
wow. that was just awful.

there were two cool parts completely surrounded by crap.

terrible score, one god awful script, and some bad acting.

though anton was a great young reese.
wow. that was just awful.

there were two cool parts completely surrounded by crap.

terrible score, one god awful script, and some bad acting.

though anton was a great young reese.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:20PM on 05/21/2009

7 out of 10

The whole movie seemed like an homage to the first 2 movies. It's like McG said, "See what you knew about the future from the first 2 movies actually happened." Nothing new. I felt like this movie was just a huge ending for the first 2 movies and now with the next story they can move on. Unfortunately, that's not the case. The next story revolves around stem-cell research, Robert Patrick, and the T-1000. I hope there's more of a story behind it than this one. There was wasted potential
The whole movie seemed like an homage to the first 2 movies. It's like McG said, "See what you knew about the future from the first 2 movies actually happened." Nothing new. I felt like this movie was just a huge ending for the first 2 movies and now with the next story they can move on. Unfortunately, that's not the case. The next story revolves around stem-cell research, Robert Patrick, and the T-1000. I hope there's more of a story behind it than this one. There was wasted potential here. There could have been much more "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and a little less "Hey, look! There's another T2 reference." Better luck next time McG.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
7:02PM on 05/21/2009

Terrible movie.

We've seen it happen to Jaws, Alien, Predator, X-Men, etc... And now it has finally happened to The Terminator.

Terminator 3 came close, but Salvation pushes the franchise into the realm of 'silly generic trill film'.

This film is a slap in the face of fans, It's someone pissing in your cereal. This is the crash & burn end to a once great franchise. R.I.P. Terminator. We once loved you.
We've seen it happen to Jaws, Alien, Predator, X-Men, etc... And now it has finally happened to The Terminator.

Terminator 3 came close, but Salvation pushes the franchise into the realm of 'silly generic trill film'.

This film is a slap in the face of fans, It's someone pissing in your cereal. This is the crash & burn end to a once great franchise. R.I.P. Terminator. We once loved you.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:51PM on 05/21/2009

Good Job.

I enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as the first two, but it was way better than T3.

I loved the overall feel and design of the film. Some of the edits were off, and Danny Elfman provided probably his worst score so far.

But I loved the bit with Arnold.

Overall I had a lot of fun with this film and I'm looking forward to a sequel.
I enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as the first two, but it was way better than T3.

I loved the overall feel and design of the film. Some of the edits were off, and Danny Elfman provided probably his worst score so far.

But I loved the bit with Arnold.

Overall I had a lot of fun with this film and I'm looking forward to a sequel.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
5:11PM on 05/21/2009
How can Connor know about the past, yet his father is a child in the future ? Are we to totaly negate Cameron's films. Given he's at least 30 in this film and Reese is possibly 18, that would make Connor close the 70 when the original storyline begins!
How can Connor know about the past, yet his father is a child in the future ? Are we to totaly negate Cameron's films. Given he's at least 30 in this film and Reese is possibly 18, that would make Connor close the 70 when the original storyline begins!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
4:45PM on 05/21/2009
It was good, but not great. I'd give it a 7 out of 10. I liked T1 and T2 better than Salvation.
It was good, but not great. I'd give it a 7 out of 10. I liked T1 and T2 better than Salvation.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
3:21PM on 05/21/2009
Great movie - until the end. I didn't like the whole heart switch. I thought it was very cheap and a shitty way to end marcus. If he's gonna die let him not go out like a punk
Great movie - until the end. I didn't like the whole heart switch. I thought it was very cheap and a shitty way to end marcus. If he's gonna die let him not go out like a punk
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:06PM on 05/21/2009
If you have a short attention span with a half-developed brain you'll probly ZOMG!! your way onto this message board about how sick the movie was, and you'll love it.

If you were looking for a Terminator movie with great characters and a ton of heart, and BELIEVABLE FUCKING ACTION SCENES then this isn't the movie for you.

3/10. Go see Star Trek again.
If you have a short attention span with a half-developed brain you'll probly ZOMG!! your way onto this message board about how sick the movie was, and you'll love it.

If you were looking for a Terminator movie with great characters and a ton of heart, and BELIEVABLE FUCKING ACTION SCENES then this isn't the movie for you.

3/10. Go see Star Trek again.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:59PM on 05/21/2009
Better than T3, but not the first two.
I'm just glad they went back to the fact that fate is what you make it.
Better than T3, but not the first two.
I'm just glad they went back to the fact that fate is what you make it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:27PM on 05/21/2009
There are a lot of worthless characters in this movie. Some of these characters are completely unbelievable as post apocalyptic survivors. Yeah, there isn't much of a story here.

That being said, I did like the movie. It had some fun action and a few seconds here and there did actually have the feel of T1 or T2. Somewhat of a disappointment, but still a decent way to escape the summer heat for a couple hours.

6/10
There are a lot of worthless characters in this movie. Some of these characters are completely unbelievable as post apocalyptic survivors. Yeah, there isn't much of a story here.

That being said, I did like the movie. It had some fun action and a few seconds here and there did actually have the feel of T1 or T2. Somewhat of a disappointment, but still a decent way to escape the summer heat for a couple hours.

6/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:20PM on 05/21/2009

AMAZING!!

First off this movie was freakin AMAZING! The action was off the wall, Worthington proved why he'll belong w the elite aussies like jackman and crowe, and McG proved he could do a big blockbuster and not make it suck. This film was not without flaws though the story was weak at times and as much hype as they've been giving about this being bale's movie he's really just second fiddle to worthington (who is just a B.A.M.F.) and better get more screen time in the next movie. But overall this movie
First off this movie was freakin AMAZING! The action was off the wall, Worthington proved why he'll belong w the elite aussies like jackman and crowe, and McG proved he could do a big blockbuster and not make it suck. This film was not without flaws though the story was weak at times and as much hype as they've been giving about this being bale's movie he's really just second fiddle to worthington (who is just a B.A.M.F.) and better get more screen time in the next movie. But overall this movie was great and can't wait for more. Oh and Kidd STFU if i want a real review I'll go read jimmy0 or go to LatinoReview you and Harry Knowles can suck a D***
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:01PM on 05/21/2009

The Kidd Vs. Terminator Salvation

I really wanted to like TERMINATOR SALVATION. I had really come around on the idea of a 4th Terminator movie being made, which is no small feat considering just how jipped I felt after watching TERMINATOR 3. The Kidd didn’t see the point in doing anything else, because RISE OF THE MACHINES just put a big nail in the coffin of all things Terminator at that point. However, McG persevered and fought to bring the Terminator fans back. He wanted to move things further into the future, to
I really wanted to like TERMINATOR SALVATION. I had really come around on the idea of a 4th Terminator movie being made, which is no small feat considering just how jipped I felt after watching TERMINATOR 3. The Kidd didn’t see the point in doing anything else, because RISE OF THE MACHINES just put a big nail in the coffin of all things Terminator at that point. However, McG persevered and fought to bring the Terminator fans back. He wanted to move things further into the future, to have John Connor fighting the machines, to show where things stood after Judgment Day.

Once I had heard he was trying his hardest to get Arnold Schwarzenegger somewhere, anywhere in this movie, I thought, “Hmmm... maybe he’s trying to do this the right way.” Then word came out that Linda Hamilton would be contributing her voice, giving Sarah Connor some type of role in the movie, and I started to get convinced. The Nine Inch Nails trailer attached to WATCHMEN was the one that really hooked me. It had me believing that the dark feelings of hopelessness and desperation that human beings must be feeling in trying to defeat Skynet had been captured, that this was a story worth telling, and that this would be a worthwhile addition to the overall Terminator universe. And I couldn’t have been wronger. I had gone from zero expectations to slight expectations to pretty high hopes that this could be pulled off well enough to make us forget TERMINATOR 3 even happened. Instead, TERMINATOR SALVATION not only doesn’t make us forget about the joke that was T3, it becomes its partner in the grouping of two movies not even close to being as good as the first two Terminator flicks.

I should have taken the events of screening day as an omen of things to come. It started out with THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES getting the axe from Fox. A Terminator television prgram not drawing viewers because it was boring and lacked quality action...? That can never be a good sign when the very characters the failed show followed factor heavily in the direction of the new movie. Then, it began as I got settled into my seat before the movie even started, as two unfunny jackasses from a local radio station’s unfunny morning show got in front of the audience to toss out some T-shirts and hats. typically that’s not a big deal, but, when it turns into a mock of the Christian Bale blow-up, which took place on the very set of TERMINATOR SALVATION, that can’t be a good sign either. I hadn’t even thought of his verbal tirade in weeks, but thanks to these idiots, it was fresh in my mind, and, throughout the film, actually caused me to try to pick out the very scene where it might have happened. I thought I had nailed it down a few times, but, as I’ll get to soon enough, there were way too many deeply emotional scenes for Christian Bale for me to really narrow it down.

The movie starts with a man named Marcus Wright, played by Sam Worthington, on Death Row, awaiting his execution for crimes that we are never really given details about. We know that his brother and a couple of other people are dead, because of him, but did he kill them himself? Was he an accomplice? Was it an accident? It might have been nice to know things like this, in order to help us determine if marcus Wright is someone we should feel sympathetic towards, but damn all that character development; it just gets in the way. While in prison, he is visited by Dr. Serena Kogan, who is trying to convince Marcus to give himself a second chance. He believes he is giving up his body to Kogan for research that might help Kogan who has terminal cancer. However, upon signing over his body, we learn that it will fall into the possession of Cyberdyne and Skynet. And away we go, with the Marcus Wright story picking up in 2018.

Wait... you were hoping this was a tale about John Connor? Well, then you are sadly mistaken, because the focus of this movie is not about the leader of the Resistance and his quest to help humanity fight for its survival against the machines. It is more about this character that we have never been introduced to before and know absolutely nothing about, other than the fact that he is some type of machine himself. Do you really care whether he is part-man, part-Terminator? I certainly didn’t. I was hoping for something new about John Connor - who is he now, what has he learned, how did he get to be such a big deal. Well, wish in one hand, and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first, because we learn nothing about John Connor that we didn’t already know, and we are left with a big steaming pile of poop... and there’s nothing satisfying or entertaining about that.

Basically we are left with a movie about preventing certain things from happening, so that time travel can take place, and the previous three Terminators aren’t wasted by never happening. Kyle Reese is captured by Skynet who plans to kill him. Why they don’t do it immediately after they identify him as being Kyle Reese is beyond me. I guess you’ll have to ask that of the dumbasses who actually put this script together. It’d make perfect sense to me. Skynet wants to eliminate John Connor, so, instead of actually killing John Connor, they kill John Connor’s dad before John Connor is ever actually conceived, so he can never exist and there can be no resistance to Skynet, and they do it as soon as they find him. That sounds like one helluva plan, and it actually might create a bit of tension and drama in your movie, much more than would exist if you just put Kyle Reese in a cell and take your sweet-ass time. Anyway, where was I...? Oh, yeah... Kyle Reese gets captured, and John Connor has to save him with Marcus Wright’s help, because, if he gets killed, then they can’t send Kyle Reese back in time to protect Sarah Connor, dance at the Enchantment Under The Sea Dance, and... fuck... now I’m really starting to get confused.

The cast is wasted, like a frat guy on dollar beer night. Christian Bale is... well, he’s Batman, but playing the role of John Connor. I don’t know what happened to this guy after playing The Caped crusader, but it’s as if he enrolled in a summer class at the Al Pacino School of Acting. Everything this guy does now is either talking very softly or yelling and growling as loud as he possibly can to the point where you wish the movie featured closed-captioning so you could figure out what the fuck he just said. I get it. Robots tried to kill your dad and your mom and you and your dog and everyone that has ever known you, but do you really have to take it all out on the radio dispatcher just trying to see if anyone’s still alive? Is there really a need to bark disagreement at your commanding officer who is somewhere on a submarine? Those radios never pick up the best reception, so I’d imagine it’s just a bit more difficult with you fuckin’ screaming at the top of your lungs into it. But once again, there really isn’t much to do here for Christian Bale, as it almost felt that the only reason John Connor was even included in the story was because he had to be.

It’s hard to even get started on Bryce Dallas Howard as John’s wife Kate, in the role Claire Danes wisely turned down. She is barely even in the movie long enough to notice her lack of participation. But I observed pretty closely. It’s pretty hard not to wonder where she’s been when she pops up every now and again at crucial moments.

Anton Yelchin is okay as the teenage Kyle Reese. There’s nothing special about what he brings to the character. He’s basically some kid trying to live as best as he can without getting killed by Terminators, with no knowledge whatsoever about how important he is to the future, or the past, or whenever the fuck he is supposed to be important to. The most frustrating part about him is the decision to attach some kid to him as his tag along. I don’t know why all of these movies lately feel the need to bring some small child into the mix, with their only purpose to be in the right place at the right time, to get their hands on some crucial plot device that the adults forgot was important to their survival, like a detonator.

Moon Bloodgood is hot, as female pilot Blair Williams. However, considering the state of the world these characters live in, she is also a complete and total idiot. After crashing her plane, she journeys with Marcus Wright on their way back to her base. Now, throw in the obligatory scene where the guy goes off to find fire or food or the bathroom, and some unsavory individuals stumble upon a helpless and attractive woman all alone in the middle of nowhere. You know what they want. You know they are coming to get it, and you know that Marcus Wright will show up in the nick of time to fight them all off and save her. This leads to her believing that he is a good man, and feeling the need to display that confidence in his true nature regardless of its consequences, even if it means putting John Connor’s life in danger, simply because she’s got a gut feeling that he can be trusted, and because they snuggled one cold night out in the wasteland.

The action sequences are good. I will give credit to the new machines used by Skynet to carry out their destruction of the human race. They’ve now got planes and motorcycles and Transformers and that final cyborg from ROBOCOP 2. You’ve probably already seen a good healthy portion of the car chase from the commercials and trailers. However, there is plenty of good man-on-robot combat going on, as well as one helluva point-of-view sequence inside of a helicopter crash. However, we knew the action would be delivered in a Terminator movie, and we aren’t left disappointed in that.

The footage with Arnold or computer Arnold or CGI Arnold and his T-800 is nothing short of amazing. It looks flawlessly like the Governator took time away from the office, stripped down, and returned to his roots at the machine that needs your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle. The audience I saw it with went absolutely crazy to see him make his appearance, and it was well worth it. In fact, his sequence might just be the best part of the entire movie. Unfortunately, it is all too short. It doesn’t take too long before Arnold’s face is shot off, and just like that, the only thing that really made this feel like a Terminator movie is gone.

There are a couple of nice nods to the previous Terminator movies, be it Kyle Reese uttering the line “Come with me if you want to live” to Marcus Wright as they are being shot at by a Terminator or the use of Guns N’ Roses’ “You Could Be Mine,” which was featured in TERMINATOR 2. They all seemed to work themselves in effortlessly, until it came time for John Connor to drop Arnold’s most notable catchphrase in a moment that brought about scattered laughter from the crowd, in what I doubt was meant to be a comedic moment, because if it was, it fell flat, just like the rest of the movie.

Even the ending had me worried that not only had I been disappointed for nearly two hours, but that I would walk out of the theatre furious and pissed-off at where they were going to take this thing in the future. I remembered the rumors of an ending where John Connor died but his image survived by having his skin grafted onto Marcus’ cybernetic body. Those rumors were squashed as being a possible ending to an early draft of the script, but, as we got close to this one wrapping up, it looked like it might have been going that way. Luckily they didn’t go that far, but don’t think they didn’t slam on the brakes just short of that unwise decision.

I wish that was all, but, if I kept writing about all the things wrong with this movie, I’d still be coming up with holes and problems by the time Arnold finally leaves office. The movie doesn’t look bad at all, but it is hard to make something out of nothing, and this script was not a good story at all. It chooses to focus on all the wrong characters while reducing those we are familiar with and want to know more about to supporting roles. I am sure that had this movie been TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE FUTURE OF JOHN CONNOR, we would have seen something much greater than what amounts to TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE INTRODUCTION OF MARCUS WRIGHT. This one feels like a Terminator movie made for the sake of making a Terminator movie with the Terminator name but really none of the Terminator aspects. Just because you have Terminator machines involved doesn’t make it a worthwhile venture, for it has always been the humans in these stories that have been them interesting. And when you lose your interest in them, you lose your interest in the franchise.

A friend of mine asked me if I thought TERMINATOR SALVATION was Wolverine-bad, as has now become the standard for this summer’s season of movies. And, after thinking about it for awhile and how much I didn’t like about this movie, I would have to say yes, that it is. After all, we all knew Wolverine was going to suck, and it certainly didn’t disappoint. However, there were hopes for TERMINATOR SALVATION, and it let down just about each and every one of them, and that is much worse and far less forgivable. We can only hope in the very near future that they change the name of this movie to something a bit more fitting, like TERMINATOR 4: THE END OF TERMINATOR MOVIES.

In the end, you are better off taking the money you would have spent in going to see this movie and renting the first two Terminators. You’ll get much more enjoyment out of it and won’t feel like you wasted your money hoping for a Terminator movie that never really happened. I would almost suggest watching TERMINATOR 3 instead, too, but let’s not do anything drastic.

Have a pleasant immediate future.

www.infamouskidd.com
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:53PM on 05/21/2009
I haven't seen the movie yet. Aren't summer blockbuster suppose to be non-stop action. If it's doesn't have a story then so what. Especially with this movie, what do you need to know? There were 3 other movies to tell you want is going on. If you forget then go watch the first three. People just bitch way to much.
I haven't seen the movie yet. Aren't summer blockbuster suppose to be non-stop action. If it's doesn't have a story then so what. Especially with this movie, what do you need to know? There were 3 other movies to tell you want is going on. If you forget then go watch the first three. People just bitch way to much.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:52PM on 05/21/2009
I haven't seen the movie yet. Aren't summer blockbuster suppose to be non-stop action. If it's doesn't have a story then so what. Especially with this movie, what do you need to know? There were 3 other movies to tell you want is going on. If you forget then go watch the first three. People just bitch way to much.
I haven't seen the movie yet. Aren't summer blockbuster suppose to be non-stop action. If it's doesn't have a story then so what. Especially with this movie, what do you need to know? There were 3 other movies to tell you want is going on. If you forget then go watch the first three. People just bitch way to much.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
11:32AM on 05/21/2009
If you just accept it as a big, dumb action movie, then you might like it. I felt it was as if a 13 year old got a chance to write the script...then I realized that it's from the screenwriters of.....wait for it....CATWOMAN....
If you just accept it as a big, dumb action movie, then you might like it. I felt it was as if a 13 year old got a chance to write the script...then I realized that it's from the screenwriters of.....wait for it....CATWOMAN....
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:58AM on 05/21/2009
Like everyone else is saying all action and no story.

6.5/10
Like everyone else is saying all action and no story.

6.5/10
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:17AM on 05/21/2009

here we go

if there is nothing but action everyone is looking for a story[link] there is a story everyone says where is all the action???(basterds)..

how bout everyone shut the hell up and enjoy the movies or go buy some video games..i hear the ps3 needs some assistance.
if there is nothing but action everyone is looking for a story[link] there is a story everyone says where is all the action???(basterds)..

how bout everyone shut the hell up and enjoy the movies or go buy some video games..i hear the ps3 needs some assistance.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:50AM on 05/21/2009
Mindless action, that's all this is. The action is entertaining and sometimes it makes you forget that movies are suppose to have a story to them.

Personally, I just couldn't enjoy this movie. I wanted a good story and good characters. I wanted to care about the action and all involved. This movie is exactly the trailer stretched to nearly two hours, and it never gets any deeper than that.

As a fan of The Terminator, and a fan of the kind of smart action that the first two Terminator
Mindless action, that's all this is. The action is entertaining and sometimes it makes you forget that movies are suppose to have a story to them.

Personally, I just couldn't enjoy this movie. I wanted a good story and good characters. I wanted to care about the action and all involved. This movie is exactly the trailer stretched to nearly two hours, and it never gets any deeper than that.

As a fan of The Terminator, and a fan of the kind of smart action that the first two Terminator films represented, I can't recommend this movie at all. T3 even had more going on for it. Terminator: Salvation is on par with action films such as AVP, XXX, Max Payne, etc... To me, The Terminator should have been given far more respect than that. And heavy handed winks to the previous films do not count as respect.

This movie just simply blows, and is so far the worst big movie of the summer.

2/5
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:00AM on 05/21/2009

Unnecessary

Not very good, a lot of action but no story line. it was like sitting through a roland emmerich movie.

what did you expect though. i mean, did anyone actually have any idea what the plot was going into this movie? it was like studio execs said "ok, big robot movies are big right now (eg transformers), the batman movie is big (eg christain bale), the terminator franchise is recognizable, and pg13 movies can really bring in the dough - grab the cameras".

hell, even like 2-3 months prior to
Not very good, a lot of action but no story line. it was like sitting through a roland emmerich movie.

what did you expect though. i mean, did anyone actually have any idea what the plot was going into this movie? it was like studio execs said "ok, big robot movies are big right now (eg transformers), the batman movie is big (eg christain bale), the terminator franchise is recognizable, and pg13 movies can really bring in the dough - grab the cameras".

hell, even like 2-3 months prior to its release they were still talking about finding a role in the movie so arnold and robert patrick could return to the franchise. did they have a written out plot for this thing or did they just throw a bunch of junk in this movie and see how many people they can put in the theather? im guessing the latter.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
View All Comments

Latest Entertainment News Headlines


Top
Loading...

Featured Youtube Videos

Views and Counting