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12.08.2008

First off, let me start by saying I realize how ridiculous it is to refer to the third Christopher Nolan Batman movie as TDK 2 but I'm not sure what a better shortened title is. Bats 3? I'd hate for you to think that Nolan was making a film in this trilogy. In any event, to promote tomorrow's big release of THE DARK KNIGHT on DVD and Blu-ray, Nolan has been out talking about the films, something he hasn't done much of since TDK was released. The subject of another Batman film came up (obviously) and Nolan for the first time admitted to working on ideas for the sequel. He tells USA Today he's done some "rough outlines" for a plot of a third film though he didn't really like much of what he came up with. He reiterated that he's exceptionally concerned about screwing up a DARK KNIGHT follow-up and that comes out of being "respectful" to the fans. My question to you, those very same fans, is whether you'd rather roll the dice and get one more Batman movie or if you'd rather quit while we're ahead. I'm not sure you could ever top TDK critically and commercially, so I'd be inclined to say just let it be but I might be convinced otherwise...

Extra Tidbit: My local Best Buy is opening at 12:01am to sell copies of TDK.
Source: USA Today

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11:03PM on 12/10/2008
No matter if Nolan directs or passes, there will be a third Batman film. Warner Bros. won't let a movie as huge as TDK go without a sequel. So hopefully we can see the same people wrap up a great trilogy.

But, this is exactly what I thought about the Spidey trilogy as well. Yet Spidey 3 was completely half-assed. So give Nolan and co. all the time they want, or your possibly looking at another rushed disappointing third entry.
No matter if Nolan directs or passes, there will be a third Batman film. Warner Bros. won't let a movie as huge as TDK go without a sequel. So hopefully we can see the same people wrap up a great trilogy.

But, this is exactly what I thought about the Spidey trilogy as well. Yet Spidey 3 was completely half-assed. So give Nolan and co. all the time they want, or your possibly looking at another rushed disappointing third entry.
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3:17AM on 12/10/2008

IFFY CAT BUT...

Catwoman could be iffy, but I also scratched my head a little when they said Heath Ledger. But only for a second. Then I remembered Batman Begins and warmed to the idea pretty damn quick. If they use Catwoman because Nolan and crew says they can make it work, I'm in. Frankly, HUSH would probably fit pretty well into the world they've created here and is a departure from Joker to help avoid comparisons. That being said, I'm just beginning to get into my DK Blu Ray high and can't be too bothered
Catwoman could be iffy, but I also scratched my head a little when they said Heath Ledger. But only for a second. Then I remembered Batman Begins and warmed to the idea pretty damn quick. If they use Catwoman because Nolan and crew says they can make it work, I'm in. Frankly, HUSH would probably fit pretty well into the world they've created here and is a departure from Joker to help avoid comparisons. That being said, I'm just beginning to get into my DK Blu Ray high and can't be too bothered about a sequel just yet. In fact let me get past the rerelease in Jan. before I think about a third.
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8:58PM on 12/09/2008

There will be a third film

Warner Bros won't let it not happen. However, Nolan should look at having The Riddler in definitely. HOWEVER, I would look at the modern reformed Riddler, who is brought in as a consultant on a murder, try something completely new with Nygma.
Warner Bros won't let it not happen. However, Nolan should look at having The Riddler in definitely. HOWEVER, I would look at the modern reformed Riddler, who is brought in as a consultant on a murder, try something completely new with Nygma.
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3:52PM on 12/09/2008

QUIT

Nolan your the definition of creatively brilliant director...lets see something original!!! TDK is without a doubt one of the best movies ever but in my books so are Memento and The Prestige...
You all know he's got about 20 other flicks up his sleeve...how 'bout one of them??
Nolan your the definition of creatively brilliant director...lets see something original!!! TDK is without a doubt one of the best movies ever but in my books so are Memento and The Prestige...
You all know he's got about 20 other flicks up his sleeve...how 'bout one of them??
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1:55PM on 12/09/2008

Bring it on!

I'd like to see a cameo or introduction of Richard aka "The Dick" Grayson, without actually introducing Robin. A teaser if you will. As for the plot, what about Bane or Deadshot? Hell to the YIZAH! Oh and F*** Catwoman and AJ! Thank you.
I'd like to see a cameo or introduction of Richard aka "The Dick" Grayson, without actually introducing Robin. A teaser if you will. As for the plot, what about Bane or Deadshot? Hell to the YIZAH! Oh and F*** Catwoman and AJ! Thank you.
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11:18AM on 12/09/2008
I have to say i too do not want Angelina jolie as a catwoman. But because there ALWAYS has to be a love interest in his life im sure they'll put her in and i'd love to see rosario dawson as catwoman. But honestly nix the woman. Batman on the run from the law. Get avillian like black mask. I want to see the bats detective skills already! make him infiltrate from the bottom up til her gets to the black mask. mystery,murder, mayhem. 3 things batman NEEDS!
I have to say i too do not want Angelina jolie as a catwoman. But because there ALWAYS has to be a love interest in his life im sure they'll put her in and i'd love to see rosario dawson as catwoman. But honestly nix the woman. Batman on the run from the law. Get avillian like black mask. I want to see the bats detective skills already! make him infiltrate from the bottom up til her gets to the black mask. mystery,murder, mayhem. 3 things batman NEEDS!
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10:40AM on 12/09/2008

TDK3

Ok, so many people will disagree with me on this but here is what i think should happen in the 3rd one. Take the idea of the Hush series and mix it around. I have always been a firm believer that TWO FACE was never dead by the end of the Dark Knight because he said that HARVEY DENT was dead.. At that point in the movie Two Face has pretty much taken over and by having another fake funeral it keeps Harvey's character intact as the white knight of gothem.. instead of becoming this villian for
Ok, so many people will disagree with me on this but here is what i think should happen in the 3rd one. Take the idea of the Hush series and mix it around. I have always been a firm believer that TWO FACE was never dead by the end of the Dark Knight because he said that HARVEY DENT was dead.. At that point in the movie Two Face has pretty much taken over and by having another fake funeral it keeps Harvey's character intact as the white knight of gothem.. instead of becoming this villian for people to fear. Mix the Hush series wiht Two face and you have a great TDK3!!!!
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10:34AM on 12/09/2008
I don't know much about Warner Bros. but I can tell you that any sane studio exec wouldn't let Uwe Boll touch this franchise with a twenty foot pole.
I don't know much about Warner Bros. but I can tell you that any sane studio exec wouldn't let Uwe Boll touch this franchise with a twenty foot pole.
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7:54AM on 12/09/2008
First, if they go with adding Catwoman in to "TDK 2", PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT CAST ANGELINA JOLIE!!!! Get someone slightly less high profile..
Also, the same if they put in The Riddler. No Johnny Depp. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but he's too big for the role..

Cast people a little less known, who can then shine and be made - a la Bale & Ledger (& even Eckhart)!! The biggest "STARS" have all been given slightly smaller roles (Caine, Oldman, Freeman) and they fit perfectly!!

I
First, if they go with adding Catwoman in to "TDK 2", PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT CAST ANGELINA JOLIE!!!! Get someone slightly less high profile..
Also, the same if they put in The Riddler. No Johnny Depp. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but he's too big for the role..

Cast people a little less known, who can then shine and be made - a la Bale & Ledger (& even Eckhart)!! The biggest "STARS" have all been given slightly smaller roles (Caine, Oldman, Freeman) and they fit perfectly!!

I have total faith in Nolan's casting choices (his only blip was Katie Holmes, but he sorted that out!!), so I'm sure he won't let us down..

Second: We all know Nolan is going to return. He isn't going to spend all these years creating a glorious rendition of Batman only to let someone like Ratner, or McG, or dare I say Uwe Boll come in and completely destroy it. WB should have learnt that mistake anyway from Joel Schumacher!!!

Let's all just try to be a little more patient and wait for the British Master to create and give us his final (??) part!! It WILL come!!!!!!!!
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6:48AM on 12/09/2008
Quit while ahead. There are many other franchises to be done (read: concluded), and to turn Batman Begins/The Dark Knight into a three-movie cash cow would be a mistake.
Quit while ahead. There are many other franchises to be done (read: concluded), and to turn Batman Begins/The Dark Knight into a three-movie cash cow would be a mistake.
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6:37AM on 12/09/2008
seems to me if nolan says he wont make another the studio will just hire someone else. who may or may not be as good a director/writer! so its better for us "the fans" if he makes the next bats.
seems to me if nolan says he wont make another the studio will just hire someone else. who may or may not be as good a director/writer! so its better for us "the fans" if he makes the next bats.
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4:11AM on 12/09/2008

I'm allergic to felines

No Catwoman. Period. And I'm willing to bet the Nolan/Goyer creative juggernaut would agree with me wholeheartedly.
No Catwoman. Period. And I'm willing to bet the Nolan/Goyer creative juggernaut would agree with me wholeheartedly.
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3:30AM on 12/09/2008
I just got TDK on BD. Fuck yeah.
I just got TDK on BD. Fuck yeah.
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1:05AM on 12/09/2008
Here's what I would like to see in a 3rd Batman movie: Angelina Jolie as Catwoman. A more sympathetic take on the character, giving Batman a more difficult choice whether or not he should bring her to justice.
Here's what I would like to see in a 3rd Batman movie: Angelina Jolie as Catwoman. A more sympathetic take on the character, giving Batman a more difficult choice whether or not he should bring her to justice.
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11:56PM on 12/08/2008
Roll the dice goddammit!! Roll the dice!!!
Roll the dice goddammit!! Roll the dice!!!
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11:19PM on 12/08/2008
I'm still hoping for a variation of Knightfall. Would also fit with the "not putting Batman's name in the title" thing he started.
I'm still hoping for a variation of Knightfall. Would also fit with the "not putting Batman's name in the title" thing he started.
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10:48PM on 12/08/2008
when will he quit jerkin us off and just say it'll be THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS thats comin up next???
when will he quit jerkin us off and just say it'll be THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS thats comin up next???
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10:32PM on 12/08/2008

ALMOST THERE!

An hour and a half til I get my copy of "The Dark Knight". I am going to watch the shit out of this movie. Probably once a day (hopefully), I mean the movie is so damn good.

I think that Nolan should make a third and FINAL Batman because these movies are truly amazing and Batman deserves one more go around in Gotham City. I'm in no rush for a 3rd Batman because if he rushes, then the movie will be complete shit. Let Nolan and Bale take their time on the 3rd Batman movie.

Of course the
An hour and a half til I get my copy of "The Dark Knight". I am going to watch the shit out of this movie. Probably once a day (hopefully), I mean the movie is so damn good.

I think that Nolan should make a third and FINAL Batman because these movies are truly amazing and Batman deserves one more go around in Gotham City. I'm in no rush for a 3rd Batman because if he rushes, then the movie will be complete shit. Let Nolan and Bale take their time on the 3rd Batman movie.

Of course the next one won't top "The Dark Knight" but if it's just as good as "Batman Begins", I'll be satisfied.
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10:23PM on 12/08/2008

So Happy

Im so happy that the wal-mart in my small town is open 24hrs.. im going to pick up one of my buddies and then goign to buy it at midnight.. then im gonna watch it tonight.. and i have a final tomorrow... but who the hell cares right?

and i say roll the dice... as long as you keep them dark people will come back
Im so happy that the wal-mart in my small town is open 24hrs.. im going to pick up one of my buddies and then goign to buy it at midnight.. then im gonna watch it tonight.. and i have a final tomorrow... but who the hell cares right?

and i say roll the dice... as long as you keep them dark people will come back
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7:52PM on 12/08/2008
With the way The Dark Knight ends, it's really really hard to top it. Also, that could be the definitive ending in comic book adaptation movie and I really like the ending. Nolan could quit while he's ahead of this game and not to make the 3rd movie go awry. In that case, Warner Bros. might probably find some replacement for Nolan. In that case, we'd have Batman Forever/Batman & Robin all over again. I'd go for wait for Noland to find the very storyline that he really likes, not just some so-so
With the way The Dark Knight ends, it's really really hard to top it. Also, that could be the definitive ending in comic book adaptation movie and I really like the ending. Nolan could quit while he's ahead of this game and not to make the 3rd movie go awry. In that case, Warner Bros. might probably find some replacement for Nolan. In that case, we'd have Batman Forever/Batman & Robin all over again. I'd go for wait for Noland to find the very storyline that he really likes, not just some so-so story.
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7:35PM on 12/08/2008
Let Nolan do whatever he wants, Warners. Let him make a film or two between. Give him as many years as he wants to make the next one. Even if the 3rd film is only as good as Batman Begins, it would be a huge triumph. I think that Warner Bros. deserves more credit for how they've handled this new franchise. The ball is in Nolan's court. If he agrees to do it, give him whatever the hell he wants because it worked before, to say the least.
Let Nolan do whatever he wants, Warners. Let him make a film or two between. Give him as many years as he wants to make the next one. Even if the 3rd film is only as good as Batman Begins, it would be a huge triumph. I think that Warner Bros. deserves more credit for how they've handled this new franchise. The ball is in Nolan's court. If he agrees to do it, give him whatever the hell he wants because it worked before, to say the least.
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7:33PM on 12/08/2008
Even if Nolan would quit the franchise, the studios aren't, and they're the ones who hold the rights to the characters, and they're likely to assign another director to do it if Nolan doesn't.

Soooo, my suggestion is for Nolan to take his time, but give TDK some closure. After all, it did leave with somewhat of a cliffhanger.
Even if Nolan would quit the franchise, the studios aren't, and they're the ones who hold the rights to the characters, and they're likely to assign another director to do it if Nolan doesn't.

Soooo, my suggestion is for Nolan to take his time, but give TDK some closure. After all, it did leave with somewhat of a cliffhanger.
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7:28PM on 12/08/2008

tough call

it's def tough to top...but it's a marketing decision, and at the end of the day we'll see another one because there's money to be made. simple as that.

if it's purely based on a marketing decision nolan will be out and a new director will be in. because nolan will lose the creative stronghold and he'll bounce away from the project.
it's def tough to top...but it's a marketing decision, and at the end of the day we'll see another one because there's money to be made. simple as that.

if it's purely based on a marketing decision nolan will be out and a new director will be in. because nolan will lose the creative stronghold and he'll bounce away from the project.
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7:05PM on 12/08/2008

Nolan bros

As long as it's in those two's hands there's no reason not to make more ...lack of source material sure isn't the problem ...and as far as I'm concerned almost everything they've touched has turned to gold

And if either Nolan is reading this-- Do what you want and don't even think about the fans or audience, just about the bats and what story YOU want to tell.
As long as it's in those two's hands there's no reason not to make more ...lack of source material sure isn't the problem ...and as far as I'm concerned almost everything they've touched has turned to gold

And if either Nolan is reading this-- Do what you want and don't even think about the fans or audience, just about the bats and what story YOU want to tell.
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7:00PM on 12/08/2008
Since it would take several pinpoint nuclear explosions to effectively stop the movie making machine... there will definitely be a third sequel. The only real question is will Nolan be heading it and I think we can all agree that the franchise is safest in his hands.

In other speculative news... I would be just dandy to see a brand-spankin new bat cave and some cat woman screen time. Ijou desu.
Since it would take several pinpoint nuclear explosions to effectively stop the movie making machine... there will definitely be a third sequel. The only real question is will Nolan be heading it and I think we can all agree that the franchise is safest in his hands.

In other speculative news... I would be just dandy to see a brand-spankin new bat cave and some cat woman screen time. Ijou desu.
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6:41PM on 12/08/2008
If it were up to me, I'd stop the franchise at four. Some great themes of justice and vigilantism were brought up and Bruce Wayne and Batman's path to redemption would perfectly continue the story left open from The Dark Knight. And a fourth film to finish it off. =]

What most fans need to understand is that there is 99% chance it won't be as good as TDK. And I'm perfectly fine with that. It's silly to try and top it. As long as its on par or better than Batman Begins, then fantastic.
If it were up to me, I'd stop the franchise at four. Some great themes of justice and vigilantism were brought up and Bruce Wayne and Batman's path to redemption would perfectly continue the story left open from The Dark Knight. And a fourth film to finish it off. =]

What most fans need to understand is that there is 99% chance it won't be as good as TDK. And I'm perfectly fine with that. It's silly to try and top it. As long as its on par or better than Batman Begins, then fantastic.
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6:21PM on 12/08/2008

Stop limiting the Franchise!

It bothers me to read people saying stop making Batman films. Christopher Nolan has proven his abilities time and again. Whether a third batman film would be better then TDK no one can tell but at the very least it would be a high quality film that would do justice to the characters and story.

When I hear people whining that they should stop now, it seems to be the cry of the non comic book afficianado's and those who mostly get their comic book fix from movies. Are you seriously telling me
It bothers me to read people saying stop making Batman films. Christopher Nolan has proven his abilities time and again. Whether a third batman film would be better then TDK no one can tell but at the very least it would be a high quality film that would do justice to the characters and story.

When I hear people whining that they should stop now, it seems to be the cry of the non comic book afficianado's and those who mostly get their comic book fix from movies. Are you seriously telling me that they can't find another great theme and story to make a film from a character that has had 70 YEARS worth of weekly writing and developing from some of the best writers and artists in comics!?! Are you nuts!?! Very few other fictional characters in history have had as many talented people developing it as Batman. Stop doubting and acting snobbish/purist to something you obviously don't know a whole heck of a lot about. IF YOU DID YOU WOULD KNOW THEY COULD MAKE 10 DARK KNIGHTS WITH THE PROPER TALENT INVOLVED!

PS. I still buy comics every wednesday...Keep the industry strong!
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6:04PM on 12/08/2008

Stop

Stop while you're ahead Nolan! Warner Bros will continue to make Batman films, but at least the Nolan Batmans will live on as 2 high quality films.
Stop while you're ahead Nolan! Warner Bros will continue to make Batman films, but at least the Nolan Batmans will live on as 2 high quality films.
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5:54PM on 12/08/2008
TDK was a masterpiece but it's not the be all, end all of the Batman series. It's not that hard to top TDK with Nolan and a great screenplay...
TDK was a masterpiece but it's not the be all, end all of the Batman series. It's not that hard to top TDK with Nolan and a great screenplay...
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5:20PM on 12/08/2008

TDK 2

I think he should go ahead and make another movie. As long as it's better than Batman Begins, which is also awesome, that would be good enough for me. But for TDK 2's story, he need to start the redeption of Batman.

I am very excited tomorrow for I am buying a Blu-ray copy of TDK!
I think he should go ahead and make another movie. As long as it's better than Batman Begins, which is also awesome, that would be good enough for me. But for TDK 2's story, he need to start the redeption of Batman.

I am very excited tomorrow for I am buying a Blu-ray copy of TDK!
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4:37PM on 12/08/2008
I down with a tdk 3! I say it's going to be damn hard to top TDK, Nolan might have to pull a rabbit out of jis ass to top it but If anyone can pull it off it be Nolan. Just keep it with in the mob fell to it.

Less than 24 hours left for TDK!!!! I called in sick at work yesterday and today for the midnight selling. I had a 4 day weekend.
I down with a tdk 3! I say it's going to be damn hard to top TDK, Nolan might have to pull a rabbit out of jis ass to top it but If anyone can pull it off it be Nolan. Just keep it with in the mob fell to it.

Less than 24 hours left for TDK!!!! I called in sick at work yesterday and today for the midnight selling. I had a 4 day weekend.
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4:33PM on 12/08/2008

Why Not?

Why would a third movie have to be better than TDK? If the next one is only "really good", is that so bad? I love the original Star Wars trilogy, and while Episode V in my opinion was CLEARLY the best, that does not diminish my enjoyment of Episode VI in the least. If George Lucas can do it, I see no reason that Christopher Nolan couldn't pull it off. (As long as he doesn't become overly obsessed 20 years from now and go back, clean them up, add irrelevant shit to it, etc.)
Why would a third movie have to be better than TDK? If the next one is only "really good", is that so bad? I love the original Star Wars trilogy, and while Episode V in my opinion was CLEARLY the best, that does not diminish my enjoyment of Episode VI in the least. If George Lucas can do it, I see no reason that Christopher Nolan couldn't pull it off. (As long as he doesn't become overly obsessed 20 years from now and go back, clean them up, add irrelevant shit to it, etc.)
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4:17PM on 12/08/2008

The Dark Knight

was a massive achievement in the film industry. i believe that nolan should not make a 3rd Batman film because TDK was just perfect. It's legendary and people will never get tired of watching it. quit while you're ahead. Nolan doesnt need to make a trilogy because he already made pretty much the most kick-ass movie i've ever seen. and i'm pretty sure that noone can top Heath Ledger's performance. it was Batman vs. The Joker. thats how it should end. don't get me wrong i would LOVE to see a 3rd
was a massive achievement in the film industry. i believe that nolan should not make a 3rd Batman film because TDK was just perfect. It's legendary and people will never get tired of watching it. quit while you're ahead. Nolan doesnt need to make a trilogy because he already made pretty much the most kick-ass movie i've ever seen. and i'm pretty sure that noone can top Heath Ledger's performance. it was Batman vs. The Joker. thats how it should end. don't get me wrong i would LOVE to see a 3rd Batman but i just think that it will be sooo hyped, massively anticipated and once we watch it, it wasnt as good as TDK. I'm not saying nolan cant pull of a 3rd movie without making it better than TDK. i'm saying it's very VERY difficult to top TDK and alot ALOT is expected of you from the fans, and that's alot of fucking fans. i wouldnt want to be in the directors seat knowing that fans want something better than something that was "perfect." i say just leave TDK the way it is. but hey, only time will tell.
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4:02PM on 12/08/2008
It's nice to see a Screenwriter so devoted to pleasing fans for once. Honestly, any villain can really be given a good story, but the one thing I would LOVE to see done well in the next movie (pending it gets made) is a haunting, gothic, Arkham. That's one of the main storylines/settings in nearly every Batman story, and I would love to see its downfall from a mental institute to Gotham's terrifying penitentiary for the insane.
It's nice to see a Screenwriter so devoted to pleasing fans for once. Honestly, any villain can really be given a good story, but the one thing I would LOVE to see done well in the next movie (pending it gets made) is a haunting, gothic, Arkham. That's one of the main storylines/settings in nearly every Batman story, and I would love to see its downfall from a mental institute to Gotham's terrifying penitentiary for the insane.
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3:57PM on 12/08/2008

Yesyesyes.

I'm all for one more Goyer/Nolan/Bale Batman film. And, I still say get Bane in the mix. Bane got shafted in the movies, when in the comics he was a badass.

Think of this premise: After TDK and the Joker locked up, there are more vigilantes than ever. One of them, could be the one they called Azrael -- Bane has taken over the crime mobs and rebuilt them again -- and then GOyer and Nolan fill in where I never could.

Near the end, Batman gets his back broken like in the comics, and Azrael
I'm all for one more Goyer/Nolan/Bale Batman film. And, I still say get Bane in the mix. Bane got shafted in the movies, when in the comics he was a badass.

Think of this premise: After TDK and the Joker locked up, there are more vigilantes than ever. One of them, could be the one they called Azrael -- Bane has taken over the crime mobs and rebuilt them again -- and then GOyer and Nolan fill in where I never could.

Near the end, Batman gets his back broken like in the comics, and Azrael secretly takes over while Batman is recouperating...

now, this leaves room and freedom for the TDK to step away and leave an open ended story for someone to pick up on...or leaves room for the TDK team to jump back in for a 4th if they so desire.

BANE IN 2011.
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3:55PM on 12/08/2008

Why so speculative??

I know I'm no expert on the movie making process, nor am I a producer. I do not need to be either of these things to be able to state categorically and beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a third movie. Wether it is with Nolan or not, it will happen. Both films made far to much money and will continue to rake in the millions on DVD and merchandising that is ridiculous to even doubt there will be another installment. I think it's pretty safe to say Nolan will be at the helm but even if
I know I'm no expert on the movie making process, nor am I a producer. I do not need to be either of these things to be able to state categorically and beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a third movie. Wether it is with Nolan or not, it will happen. Both films made far to much money and will continue to rake in the millions on DVD and merchandising that is ridiculous to even doubt there will be another installment. I think it's pretty safe to say Nolan will be at the helm but even if he took nothing to do with it it would still shunt onwards. Hell, even if Bale himself wanted nothing to do with it ( which is highly unlikely ) it would still shunt onwards. Fact is, Bale wasn't the reason these films were successful. Both films had so much going for them that the third part of the story could be told just as effectively without the current leading man and still be more than acceptable. Hollywood cannot justify making complete wank like The Pink Panther 2 and not take advantage of continuing a remarkably successful franchise which has been left WIDE open for literally anything to happen.....it's guaranteed liquid success. Do I love these movies - Yes, Do I still think they're a wee, tiny bit overated - Yes, Will there be a third - Without question, Do I want another one - Fuck yeah!!!
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3:49PM on 12/08/2008

Who cares if Nolan can top TDK or not...

Just give us a good Batman movie and I'll be happy, it doesn't have top what has come before. In fact I'd prefer a Batman film that isn't so epic this time around.

Nolan is very respectful of the comics & fans, and he blends fantasy & reality in a way few filmmakers know how. I hope Nolan returns, it will be very sad if he doesn't.
Just give us a good Batman movie and I'll be happy, it doesn't have top what has come before. In fact I'd prefer a Batman film that isn't so epic this time around.

Nolan is very respectful of the comics & fans, and he blends fantasy & reality in a way few filmmakers know how. I hope Nolan returns, it will be very sad if he doesn't.
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3:35PM on 12/08/2008
Arvindh hit it right on the head... we all saw The Dark Knight. We all know there is obviously a plan for a third, hell, it's almost as if Nolan wanted to go into it right away. Heath Ledger's death is what is slowing down this process and having Nolan rethink himself.

The bottomline is that The Dark Knight deserves a sequel.. we deserve to find out what happens to the characters from the ending of The Dark Knight. Batman's fate is practically left in the dark.

The question is not if
Arvindh hit it right on the head... we all saw The Dark Knight. We all know there is obviously a plan for a third, hell, it's almost as if Nolan wanted to go into it right away. Heath Ledger's death is what is slowing down this process and having Nolan rethink himself.

The bottomline is that The Dark Knight deserves a sequel.. we deserve to find out what happens to the characters from the ending of The Dark Knight. Batman's fate is practically left in the dark.

The question is not if you want a sequel or not... because Nolan and Goyer and Bale and Caine all want to and will go through with it. The question is what is going to happen with the Joker? He inevitably will escape prison. He ultimately will have some part in this third film. Either he is going to have the part that Nolan originally planned for his character, with a re casted actor, or he is going to be trimmed down to not much but a cameo.. or a couple of behind-the-scenes plot devices. The Joker caused enough mayhem to spring out enough copy cay psycho paths and new villains.

Lets face it.. if anyone could make the death of the actor who played one of the greatest villains in movie history work... its CHRISTOPHER NOLAN.
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3:34PM on 12/08/2008

Give us more..

Go all out--over the top, all bets off. A balls to the walls Bat-movie.

You know him and Goyer have another idea for one last film.
Go all out--over the top, all bets off. A balls to the walls Bat-movie.

You know him and Goyer have another idea for one last film.
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2:53PM on 12/08/2008
Nothing ever changes. A movie comes out and people really like it, say nothing will ever top it or even be as good. Then somebody announces a new movie with that character and the howling begins. Then the movie comes out and people think it's awesome, the best ever, and nothing could ever top it or even be as good... wash, rinse, repeat...

Talk about your vicious cycles...

Nothing ever changes. A movie comes out and people really like it, say nothing will ever top it or even be as good. Then somebody announces a new movie with that character and the howling begins. Then the movie comes out and people think it's awesome, the best ever, and nothing could ever top it or even be as good... wash, rinse, repeat...

Talk about your vicious cycles...

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2:30PM on 12/08/2008
Leave it at The Dark Knight.
Leave it at The Dark Knight.
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2:05PM on 12/08/2008
too much studio involvement is what usually kills it for the third of anything. They get more concerned with numbers than story (spider-man 3, x3). Leave Nolan and Goyer alone and I'm sure they can do justice to the Batman legancy (even if it doesn't break box officer records, we'll still get a great film).
too much studio involvement is what usually kills it for the third of anything. They get more concerned with numbers than story (spider-man 3, x3). Leave Nolan and Goyer alone and I'm sure they can do justice to the Batman legancy (even if it doesn't break box officer records, we'll still get a great film).
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2:04PM on 12/08/2008

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TDK is the most overrated pile of shit, its good even better than good but just for the fact its so hyped it is made shit.
TDK is the most overrated pile of shit, its good even better than good but just for the fact its so hyped it is made shit.
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12:48PM on 12/08/2008

Batman 3

In that case they should of left Spider-man 2 and X2 alone and not screw those films with shitty follow-ups, but money talks and I'm almost certain that a third will follow with or without Nolan/Bale, I can almost asure that if Nolan/Bale leave the franchise they will still continue the franchise with a new director/lead role.

I predict the same fate for a follow-up to TDK, so I'd rather leave it as it is than to see a failed attemp to continue the new Batman franchise, but deep inside I
In that case they should of left Spider-man 2 and X2 alone and not screw those films with shitty follow-ups, but money talks and I'm almost certain that a third will follow with or without Nolan/Bale, I can almost asure that if Nolan/Bale leave the franchise they will still continue the franchise with a new director/lead role.

I predict the same fate for a follow-up to TDK, so I'd rather leave it as it is than to see a failed attemp to continue the new Batman franchise, but deep inside I would like to see what comes next for the Caped Crusader.
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12:34PM on 12/08/2008

Rasagathi...

As far as "good" Sam Raimi films go... Have you seen Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2? Sure they are cheap and the acting is hokey but there is a reason those films are adored by millions. ANd if that doesnt suit you, watch A Simple Plan. There is not a single thing wrong with that film.
As far as "good" Sam Raimi films go... Have you seen Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2? Sure they are cheap and the acting is hokey but there is a reason those films are adored by millions. ANd if that doesnt suit you, watch A Simple Plan. There is not a single thing wrong with that film.
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12:28PM on 12/08/2008
I'm not sure why people seem to need "trilogies". Sure, The Dark Knight's end is a little ambiguous - just a little - but I felt the characters had developed far enough. I don't want a twenty minute denouement promising me that Bruce Wayne lived happily ever after, and Gotham City became a utopia. I wouldn't want the opposite to happen either. Simply put, I don't want a neat and tidy ending.
Also, "the second sequel" is never good. There are a few that are competent, but most follow the
I'm not sure why people seem to need "trilogies". Sure, The Dark Knight's end is a little ambiguous - just a little - but I felt the characters had developed far enough. I don't want a twenty minute denouement promising me that Bruce Wayne lived happily ever after, and Gotham City became a utopia. I wouldn't want the opposite to happen either. Simply put, I don't want a neat and tidy ending.
Also, "the second sequel" is never good. There are a few that are competent, but most follow the "bigger is better" train of thought, and offer only mindless action and melodrama.
Had Heath Ledger not died, I'd be more open minded to a third film. His relationship with Batman is the only loose end that I'd like to see tied. Since that movie will never be made, I wouldn't mind seeing Christopher Nolan tackle something completely different.
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12:27PM on 12/08/2008
I don't consider it "rolling the dice" when it comes to Nolan, who has yet to make a bad feature film (and yes, i'm even including his 6,000-dollar 'Following' in that). He's a deticated director and I truly believe that he won't go ahead with anything that's sub-par. Spider-Man 3 and X3 crashed and burned for various reasons, but neither boasted the consitancy Nolan brings to all his films (seriously, can anyone point to any other legitimately good films Raimi has made?). I'm down for this. My
I don't consider it "rolling the dice" when it comes to Nolan, who has yet to make a bad feature film (and yes, i'm even including his 6,000-dollar 'Following' in that). He's a deticated director and I truly believe that he won't go ahead with anything that's sub-par. Spider-Man 3 and X3 crashed and burned for various reasons, but neither boasted the consitancy Nolan brings to all his films (seriously, can anyone point to any other legitimately good films Raimi has made?). I'm down for this. My biggest concern is that the studio will continue to produce Batman films after Nolan is finished, which he almost certainly will be after a third film (he's said as much).
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11:54AM on 12/08/2008

the dark knight returns

yea make a third one. put johnny depp as riddler and cast a new joker (i would have loved to see heath return) if you think about it every time the comic book or a novel come out with joker in it he is different in some way so it would be kind of perfect
yea make a third one. put johnny depp as riddler and cast a new joker (i would have loved to see heath return) if you think about it every time the comic book or a novel come out with joker in it he is different in some way so it would be kind of perfect
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11:42AM on 12/08/2008

A THIRD MUST HAPPEN

No matter what anyone thinks, a TDK follow up will happen even if it takes 5 years from now. The harsh truth is that Heath Ledger's untimely death is what put the brakes on this project. Nolan knows exactly what he wants to do for a third, heck he knew even before Batman Begins despite him denying it. The only reason he's 'coming up with plotlines' now is because he's building the story to form in a way that it doesnt involve The Joker and doing that is tricky and isnt easy.

Ask me and I'd
No matter what anyone thinks, a TDK follow up will happen even if it takes 5 years from now. The harsh truth is that Heath Ledger's untimely death is what put the brakes on this project. Nolan knows exactly what he wants to do for a third, heck he knew even before Batman Begins despite him denying it. The only reason he's 'coming up with plotlines' now is because he's building the story to form in a way that it doesnt involve The Joker and doing that is tricky and isnt easy.

Ask me and I'd say do a third. Nolan has what it takes to make this a fantastic trilogy. His problem isnt story, it isnt time, it isnt if he can top TDK because he knows he doesnt have to. His problem is having The Joker in some proportion in said sequel while knowing that it's next to impossible unless he recasts. Topping TDK isn't the deal, fellas. It's topping Heath Ledger's performance. And let's face it...fans and critics are going to look at the replacement under a magnifying glass and that alone could sink the entire film.
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11:40AM on 12/08/2008

Three Movies Can't "Round out" the Batman series

I don't think the idea of making three movies, "rounds the films out", there are really six films in the Batman mythology. If the producer's and director's continue to make the stories relavent then I could watch a hundred batman movies but I agree with Mike that there is no way to top the success of TDK and the villains are running thin, (in the sense of Nolan's realistic take on the Batman series). I'll wait for more from Nolan till I make up my mind if I would see a third Batman movie.
I don't think the idea of making three movies, "rounds the films out", there are really six films in the Batman mythology. If the producer's and director's continue to make the stories relavent then I could watch a hundred batman movies but I agree with Mike that there is no way to top the success of TDK and the villains are running thin, (in the sense of Nolan's realistic take on the Batman series). I'll wait for more from Nolan till I make up my mind if I would see a third Batman movie.
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11:38AM on 12/08/2008

Money Talks

There WILL be more batman films, whether Nolan directs or not - Warner will not simply pull the plug on its biggest cash cow "out of respect for the fans". They'll milk that sucker dry, than wait 5 years and reboot again.

My point, is, since there'll be another one anyway, might as well be a third Nolan one with quality cast and story. And for that, we the fan are ready to wait.
There WILL be more batman films, whether Nolan directs or not - Warner will not simply pull the plug on its biggest cash cow "out of respect for the fans". They'll milk that sucker dry, than wait 5 years and reboot again.

My point, is, since there'll be another one anyway, might as well be a third Nolan one with quality cast and story. And for that, we the fan are ready to wait.
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11:33AM on 12/08/2008

Make a Third.

I know there is no way to top TDK, I would be happy with any movie he makes to follow up TDK. I wouldn't go into the movie expecting anything more.
I know there is no way to top TDK, I would be happy with any movie he makes to follow up TDK. I wouldn't go into the movie expecting anything more.
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11:31AM on 12/08/2008
I think a third and final movie is needed to round out the series. I'd compare it to star wars, Empire is still the best, but Jedi is good in its own respect also. I can only imagine how this might have been different if Ledger were still around to play the joker again, since I remember reading a rumor he was considered to come back in the third movie.
I think a third and final movie is needed to round out the series. I'd compare it to star wars, Empire is still the best, but Jedi is good in its own respect also. I can only imagine how this might have been different if Ledger were still around to play the joker again, since I remember reading a rumor he was considered to come back in the third movie.
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11:27AM on 12/08/2008

finish it up, nolan

at the end of batman begins, he setup for HIS story/vision to continue, and he did the same with TDK. i would like to see where else nolan can go and what he has planned for batman. hes not done with this, by any means. he loves this baby, thats as clear as day.
at the end of batman begins, he setup for HIS story/vision to continue, and he did the same with TDK. i would like to see where else nolan can go and what he has planned for batman. hes not done with this, by any means. he loves this baby, thats as clear as day.
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11:22AM on 12/08/2008

Well...

Seeing as TDK wasn't all that impressive (aside from how it managed to impress so many people) I would rather he stops and lets someone else take a stab at it. Someone that can actually create a story that isn't loaded with plot-holes or awful dialog or poorly edited fight scenes or anti-climatic endings. I know, I know... I'm a dreamer.
Seeing as TDK wasn't all that impressive (aside from how it managed to impress so many people) I would rather he stops and lets someone else take a stab at it. Someone that can actually create a story that isn't loaded with plot-holes or awful dialog or poorly edited fight scenes or anti-climatic endings. I know, I know... I'm a dreamer.
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11:14AM on 12/08/2008
I would hope to see a sequel of sorts. I'd like to see the trilogy come to a fitting conclusion.

But what I also hope to see is that WB give Nolan the time he needs to develop a good movie, and not try to move on without him ala Fox with X-Men and WB with Superman. This Batman series NEEDS Nolan and should only end with Nolan.

And for the matter, TDK won't be topped. So many factors led to it's amazing B.O. take it's unlikely the same thing will happen twice.
I would hope to see a sequel of sorts. I'd like to see the trilogy come to a fitting conclusion.

But what I also hope to see is that WB give Nolan the time he needs to develop a good movie, and not try to move on without him ala Fox with X-Men and WB with Superman. This Batman series NEEDS Nolan and should only end with Nolan.

And for the matter, TDK won't be topped. So many factors led to it's amazing B.O. take it's unlikely the same thing will happen twice.
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11:11AM on 12/08/2008

I Believe in Christopher Nolan

I would much rather roll the dice on a third Batman. I want to see the bat cave and I want to see the trilogy end where Batman is completely hated by Gotham. Also, Gordon needs the badass trenchcoat! We know what Nolan can do, Nolan knows what Nolan can do. Even if he doesn't blow our minds with the third, there's no way he can disappoint true fans.
I would much rather roll the dice on a third Batman. I want to see the bat cave and I want to see the trilogy end where Batman is completely hated by Gotham. Also, Gordon needs the badass trenchcoat! We know what Nolan can do, Nolan knows what Nolan can do. Even if he doesn't blow our minds with the third, there's no way he can disappoint true fans.
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11:06AM on 12/08/2008

Too many loose ends left"

A 3rd film in the future is needed to tie up at least all the loose ends in TDK's storyline at films finish....+ the world of the Batman is far to rich to end after a second film, 1 more at least is in order in my opinion-I HOPE!
A 3rd film in the future is needed to tie up at least all the loose ends in TDK's storyline at films finish....+ the world of the Batman is far to rich to end after a second film, 1 more at least is in order in my opinion-I HOPE!
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11:06AM on 12/08/2008

it doesn't matter

What sucks is that regardless if Nolan wishes to come back a good story, WB will go ahead with it anyway. They have proven time and again that they don't care if the original cast and crew comes back. I'm sure though that they will wait until Nolan officially says no.
What sucks is that regardless if Nolan wishes to come back a good story, WB will go ahead with it anyway. They have proven time and again that they don't care if the original cast and crew comes back. I'm sure though that they will wait until Nolan officially says no.
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11:00AM on 12/08/2008

Leaning towards no.

Unless the third (and final?) chapter involves Two-Face, I don't see much point in trying to force another good story. Quit while you're ahead.

Do we REALLY need to know what happens to Batman after he speeds away on the Batpod at the end of TDK? Not really.

Did we REALLY need to know what was going to happen to Michael when he was sitting there at the end of Godfather part 2? Given the result of part 3, I'm gonna say no.
Unless the third (and final?) chapter involves Two-Face, I don't see much point in trying to force another good story. Quit while you're ahead.

Do we REALLY need to know what happens to Batman after he speeds away on the Batpod at the end of TDK? Not really.

Did we REALLY need to know what was going to happen to Michael when he was sitting there at the end of Godfather part 2? Given the result of part 3, I'm gonna say no.
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10:55AM on 12/08/2008
when i first saw TDK i thought they should stop. but EFF that. i want #3!
when i first saw TDK i thought they should stop. but EFF that. i want #3!
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10:49AM on 12/08/2008

yes, someone must make the 3rd

you should never quit....even if you come last people will always know you were first once. quitting is like giving up..

and anyways entertainment is about making movies, so I agree...it DOESNT HAVE TO BE BETTER, as long as its decent.

Bring it on!
you should never quit....even if you come last people will always know you were first once. quitting is like giving up..

and anyways entertainment is about making movies, so I agree...it DOESNT HAVE TO BE BETTER, as long as its decent.

Bring it on!
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10:44AM on 12/08/2008

Can't Quit...

We don't have the option to quit while we're ahead. TDK is the second highest grossing film of all time, and that's something Warner Bros is never going to pass up.

My only fear is that if Nolan takes too long, they may just push the film forward anyway without him -- and then we'll have a repeat of what happened last time ...
We don't have the option to quit while we're ahead. TDK is the second highest grossing film of all time, and that's something Warner Bros is never going to pass up.

My only fear is that if Nolan takes too long, they may just push the film forward anyway without him -- and then we'll have a repeat of what happened last time ...
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10:43AM on 12/08/2008

go for it!

no, it will probably not live up to TDK...but it doesn't have to. As long as the story, directing, and performances are in the same vein as BB and TDK, then you will have a winner.
no, it will probably not live up to TDK...but it doesn't have to. As long as the story, directing, and performances are in the same vein as BB and TDK, then you will have a winner.
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