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Beyond the Wall: This Week on Game of Thrones (Episode 8 / May 20, 2012)

May. 21, 2012by: J.A. Hamilton

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EPISODE 08: The Prince of Winterfell

THE PLOT:

The long summer is at an end, winter truly is coming and with it the cold winds of war as five self proclaimed Kings claim dominance over Westeros, but there can be only one winner when you play the game of thrones.

THE LOWDOWN:

Well you can certainly tell this season's coming to an end (and that the next two episodes are going to be huge) as tonight's story takes a little time to shine on all our characters. Yes, in some cases it's much too brief, but the wheels are turning and things need to be set up for that big bang. Something that's occurred to me is that all the things I'm waiting to see...happen next season (it's going to be a long winter), but at least we'll see a taste of things to come. I love the Jamie Lannister and Brienne storyline, and I'm sure you can tell by their back and forth tonight that those two are an entertaining pairing. There are questions surrounding the ease in which he escaped, but as with most of these story lines, due to him I'm assuming, the little details seem to be left out in hopes that we can use our imaginations. Which is cool and all, but it's still nice to see what happens rather than guess.



There's still a fair bit I want to see happen with Jon Snow and his predicament, and again, from tonight's point of view, I'm sure you can all imagine how that's going to turn out for him and Qhorin. (And yes, Rattleshirt looks awesome). I do like the chemistry between Jon and Ygritte though, it's not an easy thing to make happen with such a short amount of screen time but I feel it's working. I'm also liking Robb Stark a lot more here than I did in the books. He just felt like he was all business in the books, whereas here the guy's got heart and you want to root for him. The scene he shares with Talisa tonight is much better than the last one. I dug their story swapping, and again, it made for some great chemistry on such short notice.



There's a lot of Tyrion tonight (always a treat), as they prepare for Stannis' invasion. I like the tension in King's Landing, it's bringing characters close even though they're enemies. I loved all of Tyrion and Varys' dialogue together and it's always fun to have Bronn in the picture. Joffrey's hilarious when he talks about giving Stannis a smile "ear to ear". Uh huh, coming from the same guy who got beaten to tears by Arya with a stick. Theon and Yara shared moment almost makes you forget how much you hate them both, well, Theon anyway. At least family means something to the Greyjoys, immediate family that is. Still, I enjoyed their brother/sister chat about doing the right thing. Maybe his dumbass will listen for a change.



GAME OF THRONES SEASON 2's eighth episode brings about the calm before the storm...literally. Lots of cool little things happen tonight, like the discovery of Dragon Glass by Sam and the boys, and I'm hoping we see it put to good use before season's end. We get a short look at Dany as her and Jorah decide to take on the warlocks, and we also get the truth about Bran and Rickon. Again, where they're going with Bran's storyline is new, so even I'm in the dark here, but I'm hoping it pans out. I loved Arya and Jaqen's scene together, she's a crack up. So much for that building relationship between her and Tywin though, I really thought they were headed somewhere with it. There's just two episodes left peeps, are you excited to see how it all turns out?



SEX/NUDITY:

Robb and Talisa get it on in the strategy room much like Stannis and Melisandre did, only they use the floor instead of the table.

VIOLENCE:

Jaqen takes out some guards and Ros gets roughed up...though you don't see it happen.

SHARPEST QUIP:

The best line tonight comes from Theon's sister as she teases him about his "victory" over Winterfell. Theon: "You should be proud of your brother's achievement, I took the great castle of Winterfell with twenty men." Yara: "You're a great warrior, I saw the bodies above your gates. Which one gave you the tougher fight, the cripple or the six year old."

MOST EPIC SCENE:

Tonight I felt Stannis and Davos stole the show with their talk of honor as they prepare for the coming battle. I like Stannis, Melisandre's evil in my opinion, but Stannis is an honorable man and this theory is proven by how he treats Davos here.

FINAL VERDICT:



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Extra Tidbit: I really hope the battle of Blackwater is every bit as epic as I'm expecting it to be.
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1:31AM on 05/23/2012

Next season

I heard they're dividing up the next book over two seasons instead of one. I don't know if that's true but it seems like a good idea. Like you said, this season is awesome but it has felt rushed and trimmed away lots of things people would've enjoyed. This show shouldn't feel rushed and it doesn't need to now, it's established, so hopefully HBO sees and acknowledges it next season for a more even flow.
I heard they're dividing up the next book over two seasons instead of one. I don't know if that's true but it seems like a good idea. Like you said, this season is awesome but it has felt rushed and trimmed away lots of things people would've enjoyed. This show shouldn't feel rushed and it doesn't need to now, it's established, so hopefully HBO sees and acknowledges it next season for a more even flow.
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1:25AM on 05/23/2012

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Well it damn sure better be epic, we've been waiting all season to see some actual war, so this battle had better make up for all the tip toeing around the actual battles thus far.
Well it damn sure better be epic, we've been waiting all season to see some actual war, so this battle had better make up for all the tip toeing around the actual battles thus far.
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1:11AM on 05/23/2012
I'm not sure how much I like Stannis, but he does treat Davos well...considering he chopped of his fingers. I wouldn't want him as King though.
I'm not sure how much I like Stannis, but he does treat Davos well...considering he chopped of his fingers. I wouldn't want him as King though.
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9:24PM on 05/22/2012
That scene with Theon and Yara actually was powerful, I almost don't want to see him die now...almost.
That scene with Theon and Yara actually was powerful, I almost don't want to see him die now...almost.
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8:52PM on 05/22/2012
"Un-name me. Please?"
"Un-name me. Please?"
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1:45PM on 05/22/2012
Man, I'm with you on the whole, everything I'm waiting for's happening next season. There's gonna be sooo many cliffhangers it's ridiculous. Winter's coming and it's gonna be a long one indeed.
Man, I'm with you on the whole, everything I'm waiting for's happening next season. There's gonna be sooo many cliffhangers it's ridiculous. Winter's coming and it's gonna be a long one indeed.
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12:35PM on 05/22/2012
I found it amusing when Tyrion Varys discuss the fact that Dany's still alive in Qarth: "One game at a time, my friend, one game at a time."
I found it amusing when Tyrion Varys discuss the fact that Dany's still alive in Qarth: "One game at a time, my friend, one game at a time."
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11:57AM on 05/22/2012
Call me a debbie downer if you want but I wouldn't hold my breath for any epic battle sequences. I just don't think the show has the budget for it. So far, every time the show has come to a point where there should be a large-scale fight, it's been passed over and resolved off-screen (e.g.: Tyrion getting knocked out and waking up afterward, Jamie being captured, etc). As much as I am a fan, Game of Thrones is a talking heads drama, not Lord of the Rings.
Call me a debbie downer if you want but I wouldn't hold my breath for any epic battle sequences. I just don't think the show has the budget for it. So far, every time the show has come to a point where there should be a large-scale fight, it's been passed over and resolved off-screen (e.g.: Tyrion getting knocked out and waking up afterward, Jamie being captured, etc). As much as I am a fan, Game of Thrones is a talking heads drama, not Lord of the Rings.
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12:37PM on 05/22/2012
This was brought up in the behind the scenes filming of the second season, that is, the fact that the first season didn't have the budget requirements for an epic battle scale. The second season's budget is significantly higher so we should get something good out of it. You're right though, for the most part, we've been seeing nothing but the aftermath of these "battles".
This was brought up in the behind the scenes filming of the second season, that is, the fact that the first season didn't have the budget requirements for an epic battle scale. The second season's budget is significantly higher so we should get something good out of it. You're right though, for the most part, we've been seeing nothing but the aftermath of these "battles".
11:28PM on 05/21/2012
All hail Peter Dinklage, his scene where he pretends Cercei had Shae was nuts. He's also on the cover of Rolling Stone this month with a big Game of Thrones article that includes insight from George R.R. Martin as well.
All hail Peter Dinklage, his scene where he pretends Cercei had Shae was nuts. He's also on the cover of Rolling Stone this month with a big Game of Thrones article that includes insight from George R.R. Martin as well.
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7:21PM on 05/21/2012
You like Stannis? Huh. Maybe I'm having trouble separating my view of the book character from my view of the TV character, but I think he takes "honor" way too far and is a hard, bitter, unpleasant person. He puts honor way before reason.

I actually prefer Melisandre, whom I am pretty sure is a nasty lady but is far more intriguing.
You like Stannis? Huh. Maybe I'm having trouble separating my view of the book character from my view of the TV character, but I think he takes "honor" way too far and is a hard, bitter, unpleasant person. He puts honor way before reason.

I actually prefer Melisandre, whom I am pretty sure is a nasty lady but is far more intriguing.
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7:14PM on 05/21/2012
I don't remember Bran and them hiding out in Winterfell in the books, you're right, they're going way off the reservation with him. I just hope they don't screw up the wolf stuff.
I don't remember Bran and them hiding out in Winterfell in the books, you're right, they're going way off the reservation with him. I just hope they don't screw up the wolf stuff.
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7:45PM on 05/21/2012
I didn't watch the episode, but in the books they hide out beneath Winterfell by the graves of the old kings/lords.
I didn't watch the episode, but in the books they hide out beneath Winterfell by the graves of the old kings/lords.
10:22PM on 05/21/2012
Yeah, they hide in the crypts where all the old Stark kings and lords are buried. The crypt is shown in Season 1. It's such a shock in Book 2 what you think happens to Bran and Rickon that you're kind of blind reading after that
Yeah, they hide in the crypts where all the old Stark kings and lords are buried. The crypt is shown in Season 1. It's such a shock in Book 2 what you think happens to Bran and Rickon that you're kind of blind reading after that
1:12AM on 05/23/2012
Yeah, they were down there, so thus far, we're still on track with Bran.
Yeah, they were down there, so thus far, we're still on track with Bran.
6:10PM on 05/21/2012

Stannis is a coward and a fool.

"Haven't read the books" opinion:
If he was honorable, he wouldn't need Melisandre's demon seed to kill his brother. Or her "night is dark and full of bullshit" magic to take the throne. He knew how powerful he was without her, he knew he didn't need her, and then he has her win half the battle for him anyway. Fuck him. He's the 3rd most wanted death for me behind Theon and Joffrey.

But yeah, Bronn's dope. I hope he's around a while.
"Haven't read the books" opinion:
If he was honorable, he wouldn't need Melisandre's demon seed to kill his brother. Or her "night is dark and full of bullshit" magic to take the throne. He knew how powerful he was without her, he knew he didn't need her, and then he has her win half the battle for him anyway. Fuck him. He's the 3rd most wanted death for me behind Theon and Joffrey.

But yeah, Bronn's dope. I hope he's around a while.
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7:16PM on 05/21/2012
I'm hoping he means and honorable villain, that's how I view Stannis. He's good to those he likes but crushes his enemies at any cost.
I'm hoping he means and honorable villain, that's how I view Stannis. He's good to those he likes but crushes his enemies at any cost.
5:33PM on 05/21/2012
Bronn's the man, his theif speech made my night.
Bronn's the man, his theif speech made my night.
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4:27PM on 05/21/2012
I loved when they found the Dragon Glass. I hope they use it this season too.
I loved when they found the Dragon Glass. I hope they use it this season too.
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3:57PM on 05/21/2012

question

are you gonna be doing reviews for episodes of other HBO (and HBO-type) shows in the future now?
are you gonna be doing reviews for episodes of other HBO (and HBO-type) shows in the future now?
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4:28PM on 05/21/2012
God I hope so.
God I hope so.
5:34PM on 05/21/2012
Breaking Bad? True Blood? Sons of Anarchy?
Breaking Bad? True Blood? Sons of Anarchy?
7:17PM on 05/21/2012
I'd love to see some Breaking Bad or Boardwalk Empire reviews, but most of all The Walking Dead.
I'd love to see some Breaking Bad or Boardwalk Empire reviews, but most of all The Walking Dead.
1:46PM on 05/22/2012
Yes please.
Yes please.
8:53PM on 05/22/2012
I'd like to see a Dexter review, this season's gonna rock.
I'd like to see a Dexter review, this season's gonna rock.
9:25PM on 05/22/2012
Dexter would be cool,especially after last season's finale.
Dexter would be cool,especially after last season's finale.
1:13AM on 05/23/2012
I'd like to see some Sons of Anarchy love.
I'd like to see some Sons of Anarchy love.
1:26AM on 05/23/2012
That's a good question, one's that been asked a couple times now, so are you guys doing more?
That's a good question, one's that been asked a couple times now, so are you guys doing more?
1:32AM on 05/23/2012
I hope this means there's more TV series reviews to come, it's about damn time you guys started including them, these shows are better than most movies these days.
I hope this means there's more TV series reviews to come, it's about damn time you guys started including them, these shows are better than most movies these days.
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2:36PM on 05/21/2012
Solid episode, felt a little rushed as they prepare for the last two but still very solid.
Solid episode, felt a little rushed as they prepare for the last two but still very solid.
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