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08.30.2016

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Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy, particularly THE DARK KNIGHT, often winds up on a great many lists of the best comic-book movies of all time, but that's not to say that the series is completely immune to valid criticism. One aspect which comes under fire from fans is the ending to THE DARK KNIGHT RISES which, spoiler alert, found Batman/Bruce Wayne faking his death after saving Gotham and passing the keys to the Bat-cave to John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt). Some took issue with the idea that Bruce Wayne would hang up the cowl, but as Joseph Gordon-Levitt told CinemaBlend, Batman is more than a man, he's a symbol.

The actor was asked whether or not he'd ever be interesting in starring in a Batman film which featured his DARK KNIGHT RISES character taking on the mantle of Batman, but he believes that Nolan wrapped up the story perfectly.

I know we're all used to the sort of Marvel movies, which are just kind of endless series. They don't really have a beginning, middle, and end. But I think Nolan very much thought of that movie as a conclusion, and there's a theme that runs through all three of those movies that begins in the first movie, runs through the second movie and it concludes in that moment where he says that Batman is more than a man, Batman is a symbol. And so to have another man other than Bruce Wayne kind of becoming Batman at the end of that trilogy, I think that's the perfect ending to that story.

Do you agree with Gordon-Levitt's assessment or do you have a problem with how Christopher Nolan wrapped up THE DARK KNIGHT RISES? If so, what would you have done differently? Our next dose of Joseph Gordon-Levitt will arrive on September 16, 2016 as he takes on the title role in Oliver Stone's SNOWDEN.

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8:28AM on 09/01/2016
Nolan did so much right with his trilogy that it wasn't really the end of the world that TDKR wasn't quite the finale it should have been. To try to encompass the entirety of Batman's arc into three films is kind of a nonsense because part of the appeal of Batman is his long-running relationships with his adversaries, but Nolan gave us the abridged version of an epic saga, and the first two of a three-film arc that worked well and told the story he wanted to tell. If you erased TDKR you'd have
Nolan did so much right with his trilogy that it wasn't really the end of the world that TDKR wasn't quite the finale it should have been. To try to encompass the entirety of Batman's arc into three films is kind of a nonsense because part of the appeal of Batman is his long-running relationships with his adversaries, but Nolan gave us the abridged version of an epic saga, and the first two of a three-film arc that worked well and told the story he wanted to tell. If you erased TDKR you'd have the perfect setup for an ongoing series of Batman movies, but because Nolan wanted "three and done, and then it's someone else's turn" we got a fairly rushed Bane/Catwoman/Talia Al Ghul arc combined with Bruce hanging up the cowl. Now if you ignore TDKR and switch to Affleck's Batman you have the setup and the continuation of the grizzled Batman after the events of TDK - despite the change of styling and tech, if Bruce had continued fighting crime whilst on the run for Dent's death, you'd eventually end up with Affleck's character (or thereabouts). You could even bring back Ras Al Ghul and Two-Face (because nobody stays dead in comics) and you've basically got your ongoing cinematic Batman with whatever recurring villains.
I do like TDKR, but that trilogy is forever isolated from a greater continuity by that film, and that seems to have been Nolan's intent. He made this thing, said what he wanted to say, then closed it off. The Robin thing in TDKR felt a little tacked on, and I get what they were going for, but I'm also glad it's not something Warner Bros decided to launch a new film series from (which they could have done, easily enough).
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7:31PM on 08/31/2016
I love the finale of the series but I do think it would have been more poetic and moving if Bruce died and it seemed like that was the direction it was ahead particularly with that line, "you've given these people everything" "not everything, not yet."
I love the finale of the series but I do think it would have been more poetic and moving if Bruce died and it seemed like that was the direction it was ahead particularly with that line, "you've given these people everything" "not everything, not yet."
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12:47PM on 08/31/2016

Realistic.

Realistic in approach to world of Batman. Realistic in expectations for the actors. Not everyone wants to be tied to playing a character (and one physically demanding such as Batman) forever. Realistic in how far you can stretch a powerful story on film. Nolan knew he had to conclude his story, and reminding us that Batman is a symbol (even hinting at it earlier with the gun-toting bat-imitators), is the perfect exit for everyone involved. Director and actors can all move on and not suffer for
Realistic in approach to world of Batman. Realistic in expectations for the actors. Not everyone wants to be tied to playing a character (and one physically demanding such as Batman) forever. Realistic in how far you can stretch a powerful story on film. Nolan knew he had to conclude his story, and reminding us that Batman is a symbol (even hinting at it earlier with the gun-toting bat-imitators), is the perfect exit for everyone involved. Director and actors can all move on and not suffer for a subpar "Part IV". I'm good with what we got.
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11:40AM on 08/31/2016
I like many of you view the trilogy as one cohesive story in three parts....
Batman Begins -- Batman rises, origin story
TDK -- Batman at his peak, cat and mouse crime drama w/ The Joker
TDKR -- Batman pushed to physical/mental limits by Bane, all out war
... The common thread of Batman being a symbol runs throughout the trilogy, and so in that vein, I think TDKR wrapped the story up fantastic.
I like many of you view the trilogy as one cohesive story in three parts....
Batman Begins -- Batman rises, origin story
TDK -- Batman at his peak, cat and mouse crime drama w/ The Joker
TDKR -- Batman pushed to physical/mental limits by Bane, all out war
... The common thread of Batman being a symbol runs throughout the trilogy, and so in that vein, I think TDKR wrapped the story up fantastic.
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11:04AM on 08/31/2016
I'm a huge Nolan fan and I always find stuff I really like in his films. Even when, as was the case with TDKR, the movie doesn't quite work a a whole.

The major problem with TDKR is that this version of Batman didn't really earn a break, at least not as much as the other versions of Batman did. He became Batman halfway through Batman Begins, kept the identity for about a year before the events The Dark Knight took place and then gave it up at the end of the film until years later, when TDKR
I'm a huge Nolan fan and I always find stuff I really like in his films. Even when, as was the case with TDKR, the movie doesn't quite work a a whole.

The major problem with TDKR is that this version of Batman didn't really earn a break, at least not as much as the other versions of Batman did. He became Batman halfway through Batman Begins, kept the identity for about a year before the events The Dark Knight took place and then gave it up at the end of the film until years later, when TDKR happens, just to retire for good at the end.

It's too little! In the first 2 films, Nolan did such a good job of making us feel like it was the beginning of a truly epic hero journey. BB ends with Batman telling Gordon that he'll never have to thank him for saving the city. TDK has the Joker telling Batman that they're destined to fight each other forever. These scenes promised us a never ending journey.

The franchise had to end at one point but I would have loved an ending where Bruce is finally at peace with the choice he made. Where he accepts his destiny as Gotham's guardian.
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9:37PM on 08/31/2016
That's a big part of why I disliked TDKR. Batman was Batman at most a year and a half with so much damage to his body in such a short span, then a 9 year hiatus and back in the thick of it. He barely did any "worlds greatest detective" work, Lucious did everything for him for the most part. I guess in terms of "real" maybe this makes sense but for Batman it seems lame. I mean, even BvS Bats shows his detective side and Keaton did in both movies. I felt this Batman wasn't as smart as he should
That's a big part of why I disliked TDKR. Batman was Batman at most a year and a half with so much damage to his body in such a short span, then a 9 year hiatus and back in the thick of it. He barely did any "worlds greatest detective" work, Lucious did everything for him for the most part. I guess in terms of "real" maybe this makes sense but for Batman it seems lame. I mean, even BvS Bats shows his detective side and Keaton did in both movies. I felt this Batman wasn't as smart as he should have been.
I dunno. I thought Begins was alright, TDK was fantastic but FLAWED that people disregard, but still a great movie, and TDKR kinda mostly sucked.
10:40AM on 08/31/2016
Christopher Nolan's Batman Trilogy is one of the rare trilogies that actually work and self-contained. There's no need for a prequel or sequel. It's that good.
Christopher Nolan's Batman Trilogy is one of the rare trilogies that actually work and self-contained. There's no need for a prequel or sequel. It's that good.
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10:37AM on 08/31/2016
While I admit that TDKR has some flaws in it's execution. Overall, I thought the story was excellent and served as a perfect endpoint. I think we need to look at Nolan's movies as one story told in 3 parts. And it's the story of Bruce Wayne, not Batman. Bruce was on a mission to end crime (or at least the control crime had in Gotham) by becoming a symbol for Gotham to rally behind.
Batman Begins shows us the establishing of the symbol for Gotham. The Dark Knight shows us how it inspires
While I admit that TDKR has some flaws in it's execution. Overall, I thought the story was excellent and served as a perfect endpoint. I think we need to look at Nolan's movies as one story told in 3 parts. And it's the story of Bruce Wayne, not Batman. Bruce was on a mission to end crime (or at least the control crime had in Gotham) by becoming a symbol for Gotham to rally behind.
Batman Begins shows us the establishing of the symbol for Gotham. The Dark Knight shows us how it inspires and potentially allows Gotham to stand up for itself (i.e. seen through the Harvey Dent character). And The Dark Knight Rises shows us that Gotham simply needs the symbol, not necessarily a man to rally behind. So by the end of the trilogy, Bruce Wayne's mission is complete, the mantle of Batman can be passed on to whomever to keep the symbol alive and Bruce can move on knowing Gotham is protected.
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8:51AM on 08/31/2016
I agree with this. TDKR loses a lot of steam for me with Talia al-Ghul, but overall part of the excitement and anticipation we got with this series was because Nolan was constructing a superhero saga on a level we had never seen, or imagined until Batman Begins came along, with a Bruce Wayne origin story we didn't ask for but absolutely needed to clean our palate of the campy Batman of the '90s.
I agree with this. TDKR loses a lot of steam for me with Talia al-Ghul, but overall part of the excitement and anticipation we got with this series was because Nolan was constructing a superhero saga on a level we had never seen, or imagined until Batman Begins came along, with a Bruce Wayne origin story we didn't ask for but absolutely needed to clean our palate of the campy Batman of the '90s.
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7:53AM on 08/31/2016
Wrapped up perfect, maybe not, but pretty damn close. TDKR was a bit of muddled mess, but still very entertaining. The airplane scene is still one of my favourites from any action movie. TDK is by far still one of my favourite comic book movies. The villains had motives, secretive and interesting back stories and even if it wasn't. I loved the homage to Tim Burtons Batman movie at the end where the Joker is thrown off the building.

And like most of you, Batman Begins is by far the best
Wrapped up perfect, maybe not, but pretty damn close. TDKR was a bit of muddled mess, but still very entertaining. The airplane scene is still one of my favourites from any action movie. TDK is by far still one of my favourite comic book movies. The villains had motives, secretive and interesting back stories and even if it wasn't. I loved the homage to Tim Burtons Batman movie at the end where the Joker is thrown off the building.

And like most of you, Batman Begins is by far the best Batman movie to date.
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1:44AM on 08/31/2016
I remember being very disappointed with this film. Little did I know how bad DC films would devolve into complete garbage. I now have a new respect for this film. It might have strayed far from the source, but at least it told a tight & well rounded story.

Batman Begins is the truest Batman has ever been in live action. The Dark Knight was just brilliant cinema, it transcended being just a comic book movie. The Dark Knight Rises was weird, but a well told story.
I remember being very disappointed with this film. Little did I know how bad DC films would devolve into complete garbage. I now have a new respect for this film. It might have strayed far from the source, but at least it told a tight & well rounded story.

Batman Begins is the truest Batman has ever been in live action. The Dark Knight was just brilliant cinema, it transcended being just a comic book movie. The Dark Knight Rises was weird, but a well told story.
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1:46AM on 08/31/2016
Why is there no edit button for mobile users? Would be nice to fix a few speech-to-text typos
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Why is there no edit button for mobile users? Would be nice to fix a few speech-to-text typos
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11:15PM on 08/30/2016

I've been obsessed with Batman since I was 4

TDKR was a disappointment. Too many issues, too much story crammed in to really pace right. Too many head scratchers

TDK was an awesome action movie.

Batman Begins was the best Batman movie ever.
TDKR was a disappointment. Too many issues, too much story crammed in to really pace right. Too many head scratchers

TDK was an awesome action movie.

Batman Begins was the best Batman movie ever.
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11:02PM on 08/30/2016
I agree that the Nolan movies are better for being a conclusive story arch. However the Dark Knight Rises kinda sucked in general. the ending with JGL being Robin was a fairly amusing nod, albeit a forced one. But giving all that equipment to JGL and assuming he has the skills and knowhow to be the new batman was just dumb.
I agree that the Nolan movies are better for being a conclusive story arch. However the Dark Knight Rises kinda sucked in general. the ending with JGL being Robin was a fairly amusing nod, albeit a forced one. But giving all that equipment to JGL and assuming he has the skills and knowhow to be the new batman was just dumb.
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10:15PM on 08/30/2016
The Dark Knight Rises is the weakest entry of the trilogy, and not the ending the characters deserved. It ends on an emotional melancholy note, which is perfect, but the events leading up to it are poorly executed. From Bane's ridiculously complicated plot to the obvious Miranda Tate twist. But worst of all was JGL being passed the mantel after knowing Batman/Bruce for a week or was it Batman escaping a nuclear bomb?
The Dark Knight Rises is the weakest entry of the trilogy, and not the ending the characters deserved. It ends on an emotional melancholy note, which is perfect, but the events leading up to it are poorly executed. From Bane's ridiculously complicated plot to the obvious Miranda Tate twist. But worst of all was JGL being passed the mantel after knowing Batman/Bruce for a week or was it Batman escaping a nuclear bomb?
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9:24PM on 08/30/2016
Bruce Wayne has hung up the cowl multiple times in the comics and passed it on to others so it's not like it's out of step with the mythos. I don't really see the problem besides the fact that TDKR is the weakest film in the trilogy.
Bruce Wayne has hung up the cowl multiple times in the comics and passed it on to others so it's not like it's out of step with the mythos. I don't really see the problem besides the fact that TDKR is the weakest film in the trilogy.
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8:54PM on 08/30/2016

Iron Giant ending

Was fine with the idea of passing the torch, wasn't a big fan of his real name being robin.
Was fine with the idea of passing the torch, wasn't a big fan of his real name being robin.
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8:38PM on 08/30/2016
As much as I love Anne Hathaway and JGL, the only Batman worth watching is the second one.
As for Nolan, he has proven to be a pomegranate overrated director who can't tell a story.
He does have a proper masterpiece in the second Batman movie. All his other movies are a mess.
As much as I love Anne Hathaway and JGL, the only Batman worth watching is the second one.
As for Nolan, he has proven to be a pomegranate overrated director who can't tell a story.
He does have a proper masterpiece in the second Batman movie. All his other movies are a mess.
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11:13PM on 08/30/2016
TDK was an awesome action movie, weak 'Batman' movie. Batman Begins was the better 'Batman' movie.
TDK was an awesome action movie, weak 'Batman' movie. Batman Begins was the better 'Batman' movie.
8:14PM on 08/30/2016
The overall theme and message throughout the trilogy ended well enough, but the events that took place at the end of TDKR were a little bit of a mess to get to that point. So I wouldn't call the ending exactly 'perfect' by Levitt's standards.

I will say that Nolan and Bale knew when to call it quits though.
The overall theme and message throughout the trilogy ended well enough, but the events that took place at the end of TDKR were a little bit of a mess to get to that point. So I wouldn't call the ending exactly 'perfect' by Levitt's standards.

I will say that Nolan and Bale knew when to call it quits though.
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8:09PM on 08/30/2016

Everyone Wants To Retire Eventually

Batman/Bruce Wayne has done a lot of high pressure living and led a very physically, mentally and emotionally stressful life. It seems perfectly reasonable that his sense of self preservation would come to the forefront with advancing age. Ask any top-tier professional athlete in contact sports how old they can be and not get killed and it's typically early 40s. Add into the mix a very capable and confident woman that's challenging and enjoyable to spend his leisure/retirement years with and
Batman/Bruce Wayne has done a lot of high pressure living and led a very physically, mentally and emotionally stressful life. It seems perfectly reasonable that his sense of self preservation would come to the forefront with advancing age. Ask any top-tier professional athlete in contact sports how old they can be and not get killed and it's typically early 40s. Add into the mix a very capable and confident woman that's challenging and enjoyable to spend his leisure/retirement years with and you have Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle.
I'm unfortunately on the "Work 'til you die" retirement plan...
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7:38PM on 08/30/2016
I respect Nolan's decision to take this approach, and give a sense of closure to his interpretation of Batman. To date, this is the only superhero series that has any sense of closure, as opposed to those that are going without an end in sight or those that just stopped b/c they didn't do well or were rebooted. That is why this trilogy sits besides Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Toy Story as my personal favorite film series.
I respect Nolan's decision to take this approach, and give a sense of closure to his interpretation of Batman. To date, this is the only superhero series that has any sense of closure, as opposed to those that are going without an end in sight or those that just stopped b/c they didn't do well or were rebooted. That is why this trilogy sits besides Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Toy Story as my personal favorite film series.
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7:07PM on 08/30/2016
I get what he means that it's a perfect ending to that trilogy, it just doesn't match the character of Batman very well to me. Bruce Wayne isn't the type of character that retires, so it still feels peculiar to me. It didn't ruin the movies for me though, it just seemed out of place.
I get what he means that it's a perfect ending to that trilogy, it just doesn't match the character of Batman very well to me. Bruce Wayne isn't the type of character that retires, so it still feels peculiar to me. It didn't ruin the movies for me though, it just seemed out of place.
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7:03PM on 08/30/2016
I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that.
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