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Movie Jail: This week's defendant is...Kevin Smith!

Mar. 11, 2013by:

Welcome to Movie Jail, a facility like any other, only its inmates are Hollywood writers, directors, actors and producers. This column will serve as a Movie Jail trial. We will put one defendant on trial; lay out arguments for the Prosecution and Defense. And we leave it up to YOU, the reader, to decide whether the defendant is guilty of his or her crime. What crime? The crime of cinematic inconsistency or on the flipside, consistently being a stinking shithouse.

The Defendant


Kevin Smith

The Case

Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, we will be doing something a little different this week for Movie Jail. This week we will have special guest Prosecuting and Defense attorneys present their cases to the court.

First up for the prosecution, JoBlo.com columnist Mr. John Law:

The Prosecution: Mallrats, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, Jersey Girl, Clerks II, Cop Out*

Your honor, it pains me to prosecute a man who has done so much for geek culture these past 20 years, but Kevin Smith - more than anyone - knows the fickle nature of fans. Burn us once, we forgive. Burn us twice ... we start Tweeting shit. Three times? It's over, bub. Sadly, Mr. Smith has spent much of the past decade alienating so many of the fans who loved him in the '90s. Sure, we're getting older. Maybe his pee-pee jokes and pop culture punchlines don't register like they used. So in the spirit of fairness, I tested that theory, and excuse the language, your honor, but it's bullshit - Clerks is just as funny as the day I first watched it nearly 20 years ago. Likewise, Mallrats still sucks balls like it did back in the day. The Kevin Smith of the '90s is still the same loveable fat- ass ... it's the past decade or so that's the problem.


Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was a tedious waste of his two most beloved characters. Jersey Girl... well, we've picked on Jersey Girl enough over the years. No need to kick that carcass again. Clerks II was a nice comeback, and should have been - as promised - his swan song with those characters (more on that later). Believing the inspired, sharp-witted Smith was back, we were pumped for his next movie - a comedy about porn. He proceeded to make the perfectly dreadful Zack and Miri Make as Porno next. This was the movie you could practically see Mr. Smith breathing hard, winded from having to drag his tired trademarks through the wringer while make a porn comedy that was neither funny or sexy. It was his worst movie. Until the next one. Cop Out. Your honor, do we have to exhume this corpse again? By this point, Mr. Smith's fans were feeling abused, like he hated us for sticking with him. Why do you hate us, Mr. Smith? Answer the damn question!!


We give the defendant major props for trying something different with Red State, and by declaring his retirement from directing, his fans took comfort seeing him go out on a high note. But wait ... he unretired soon after to announce *sigh* Clerks III. And it appears he is again taking his fans for a ride. Perhaps sensing the vast uninterest, Mr. Smith announced last week it will be "the best film I'll ever make." And oh ya, it will be his final movie. For real this time.

Your honor, the pattern is clear. The punishment obvious. Mr. Smith need to put the snoochie boochies down, quit bullshitting us, and strive for more than medicocrity every time out. We ask for a year in Movie Jail to clear his head.


Finally, for the defense, resident JoBlo.com critic, Mr. Jimmy O:

The Defense: Clerks, Chasing Amy, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, Zack & Miri Make a Porno*

Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, One of the reasons I fell in love with comedy was thanks to Kevin Smith and Clerks. While not every single film he has done may have worked you can say that about anybody - the man has given us some truly inspired flicks with terrific dialogue including Chasing Amy, Clerks, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and yes, I really enjoyed Zack and Miri Make a Porno. In PORNO, Smith offered another crude comedy, yet it had a huge heart with some really strong performances from the films two leads Seth Rogen and especially Elizabeth Banks.


While Red State didnt quite live up to my expectations, Smith tackled something completely out of his realm and made a unique film with one hell of a performance by Michael Parks. I personally appreciated the way he approached the release of Red State by moving outside the studio system. It was a brave way to bring his film to the public the way that he wanted it to be seen. The entire experience brought him closer to many of the people he makes movies for, and that is his fans.


This is truly my favorite thing about Kevin Smith, his relationship with his fan base. Through his SModcasts and on-stage appearances he connects to the average Joe, I just hope he doesnt stray too far away from movies as I feel he may have a few more stories to tell including the now announced Clerks III Yes, Im in.

IN CLOSING...

So, whats to be done with Kevin Smith? Has he turned off that many of his old fans with his most recent fare? Is his most recent fare all that bad? Does fan loyalty protect him from the confines of Movie Jail? And the most important question to be asked, once all evidence is taken into consideration, we ask you The Jury, is Kevin Smith GUILTY or NOT GUILTY?

Lets hear YOUR arguments, either side, by STRIKING BACK BELOW.

*The court recognizes that all movies are subjective, so relax.

WHAT SAY YOU, GUILTY OR NOT?


LAST WEEK'S VERDICT

It is the jury's decision that after reviewing last week's evidence, the court finds Keanu Reeves overwhelmingly NOT GUILTY of all charges. As one jury member put it, "He's OUR Keanu," and 90% of jury members agreed by taking the red pill, jumping in a telephone booth time machine, and caught their first tube...Sir.

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11:53AM on 03/16/2013
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7:10PM on 03/12/2013

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Sorry about that, dont know what happened.
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7:06PM on 03/12/2013

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To be honest, I love Kevin Smith. Clerks was the movie that turned me on to indi movies and I'll be eternally grateful. I love all his movies, though I dont really remember zack and miri to be honest so it probably wasnt so great. I also only saw Cop Out once but back when I saw it I remember thinking it was a great throw back to buddy cop movies from the 80s - 90s and I liked it, but maybe my first impressions were wrong, I'll need to revisit it. As for his other work: Mallrats is a movie
To be honest, I love Kevin Smith. Clerks was the movie that turned me on to indi movies and I'll be eternally grateful. I love all his movies, though I dont really remember zack and miri to be honest so it probably wasnt so great. I also only saw Cop Out once but back when I saw it I remember thinking it was a great throw back to buddy cop movies from the 80s - 90s and I liked it, but maybe my first impressions were wrong, I'll need to revisit it. As for his other work: Mallrats is a movie I watch yearly, the chemistry is spot on and the movie is funny. Chasing Amy is probably his best work after Clerks. Clerks 2 is vulgar and real, love it. Jay and Silent Bobo strike back is probably not ''good'' but I love the characters and Dogma is great, rewatched it last week and it holds up well.

Red State proved one thing, Kevin Smith is not only dick and balls jokes, he's actually a good writer.
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6:55PM on 03/12/2013
Not guilty...but he did hurt his career. He started out with strong promise...as Geek-Director....with Clerks, Mallrats and Jay and Slient Bob...but it seems as soon as he got better and slightly more welll known...he ventured off his own path to direct and create other material. Thats where things went bad (Cop Out, Jersey Girl ). Although not every director can create gold every time, his fans expected more and were not getting it .
Its good to know that he is going back to material
Not guilty...but he did hurt his career. He started out with strong promise...as Geek-Director....with Clerks, Mallrats and Jay and Slient Bob...but it seems as soon as he got better and slightly more welll known...he ventured off his own path to direct and create other material. Thats where things went bad (Cop Out, Jersey Girl ). Although not every director can create gold every time, his fans expected more and were not getting it .
Its good to know that he is going back to material that he does well... Clerks 3.
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12:55PM on 03/12/2013

Guilty...

After looking at the defendants overall career its clear that while he had a string of entertaining films in the beginning he started dabbling in mediocre films and eventually going as far as going back to the well in the hopes reviving his once promising career, which did work to a extent, but then the evidence of zack and Miri which in concept should have been a clear comedic hit... with its great cast and Judd apatow-esque story... Which resulted in a commercial as well as a a comedic and
After looking at the defendants overall career its clear that while he had a string of entertaining films in the beginning he started dabbling in mediocre films and eventually going as far as going back to the well in the hopes reviving his once promising career, which did work to a extent, but then the evidence of zack and Miri which in concept should have been a clear comedic hit... with its great cast and Judd apatow-esque story... Which resulted in a commercial as well as a a comedic and overall flop. Add to the fact that he followed that project up with the horrendous Cop Out... another film which should have been another sure fire comedic hit it becomes clear that Mr. Smith's career has indeed fallen into dark times. While his latest and supposedly last directorial film Red State was surprisingly entertaining it was almost forgettable lost in the midst of his string of Evening with Kevin Smith performances which when we add to the fact of his most recent "announcements" of returning to beat the dead horse of Clerks... only one outcome is clear to the prosecution.
The prosecution feels that after taking into account the defendant, Mr. Kevin Smith's past more entertaining films he is in need of rehabilitation. His more present participation in the world of film shows us that while there are sparks of life in him he needs time to finally set up a good film project or for the good of everybody just call it quits.

Guilty. Remanded to a treatment facility for rehabilitation with chance for review and parole.
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11:51AM on 03/12/2013

Not Guilty

I don't like every movie, but I enjoyed Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Jay & Silent Bob, Clerks 2 and Zach & Miri. I think he needs to smoke a little less weed and get his shit together, but he's a unique talent. He may swing and miss a lot, but that's the only way you hit a homer.
I don't like every movie, but I enjoyed Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Jay & Silent Bob, Clerks 2 and Zach & Miri. I think he needs to smoke a little less weed and get his shit together, but he's a unique talent. He may swing and miss a lot, but that's the only way you hit a homer.
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11:29AM on 03/12/2013
Not guilty.
Not guilty.
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9:54AM on 03/12/2013

Not Guilty

It was a difficult decision, but he's a geek. That saved him.
It was a difficult decision, but he's a geek. That saved him.
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8:56AM on 03/12/2013

Not Guilty. . .

Clerks III it's on
Clerks III it's on
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8:47AM on 03/12/2013

NOT GUILTY

The only negative on Kevin Smith's part is Cop Out and some of his own personal behavior.

However, since we are all supposed to be enlightened film fans, his personal behavior should immediately go out the window.

Meanwhile, Cop Out was only a move he DIRECTED. He didn't write it and from all reports Bruce Willis did everything in his power to sabotage it.

Zack and Miri Make a Porno is not only a great comedy, but an ingenious take on the romantic-comedy genre with a bit of
The only negative on Kevin Smith's part is Cop Out and some of his own personal behavior.

However, since we are all supposed to be enlightened film fans, his personal behavior should immediately go out the window.

Meanwhile, Cop Out was only a move he DIRECTED. He didn't write it and from all reports Bruce Willis did everything in his power to sabotage it.

Zack and Miri Make a Porno is not only a great comedy, but an ingenious take on the romantic-comedy genre with a bit of subversive-SHITE mixed in for good measure. It's entertaining, funny, and innovative.

And WHO THE HOLY HELL thinks Mallrats is a bad movie? While poorly acted (it's just a step up from Clerks as far as Indie goes, numb nuts), it's highly entertaining and very funny.

Ugh. NOT GUILTY. Kevin Smith deserves more love.
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8:32AM on 03/12/2013

Not Guilty

I enjoyed Clerks and Chasing Amy and Mallrats, the stink palm scene with Michael Rooker is just too damn funny. I also enjoyed Red State, so I'm going to have to give him a Not Guilty vote as he's made me laugh a lot more than he has not over the years. Although Zack and Miri is dreadfully bad!!
I enjoyed Clerks and Chasing Amy and Mallrats, the stink palm scene with Michael Rooker is just too damn funny. I also enjoyed Red State, so I'm going to have to give him a Not Guilty vote as he's made me laugh a lot more than he has not over the years. Although Zack and Miri is dreadfully bad!!
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8:03AM on 03/12/2013

Not guilty!

His great films are great, but the lesser ones are still enjoyable. He hasn't made a film to date that would make him worthy of Movie Jail.
His great films are great, but the lesser ones are still enjoyable. He hasn't made a film to date that would make him worthy of Movie Jail.
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6:56AM on 03/12/2013

Guilty

Because only Clerks and Dogma are films of his that have re-watchability. The rest of them have just come and gone and left no positive lasting impression.
Because only Clerks and Dogma are films of his that have re-watchability. The rest of them have just come and gone and left no positive lasting impression.
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4:43AM on 03/12/2013

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First movie I saw of Smith's (as I recall) was Dogma, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. After watching that, I went back and watched Clerks, Mallrats and Chasing Amy. At the time Clerks was funny, but I didn't hold it in such high regard until I actually started working retail. I enjoyed Jersey Girl, even with all the hate towards it. Jay & Silent Bob was alot of fun, if not over-the-top. Clerks II was hilarious, and made me love the first even more than before. I also really enjoyed Zack &
First movie I saw of Smith's (as I recall) was Dogma, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. After watching that, I went back and watched Clerks, Mallrats and Chasing Amy. At the time Clerks was funny, but I didn't hold it in such high regard until I actually started working retail. I enjoyed Jersey Girl, even with all the hate towards it. Jay & Silent Bob was alot of fun, if not over-the-top. Clerks II was hilarious, and made me love the first even more than before. I also really enjoyed Zack & Miri (just watched it the other day in fact,) The only Smith movies I haven't watched are Cop Out and Red State, but I will watch them in due time.

Aside from his films, I do enjoy his "Evening with" Q&A's, his various TV projects (Spoilers and Comic Book Men) and his numerous podcasts/SmodCo ventures. The man has his finger on the pulse of pop culture most all the time, and I enjoy hearing his points of view on whatever topics he's discussing. As someone said below, I could listen to him talk about pretty much anything...

mos def Not Guilty.
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3:50AM on 03/12/2013

not guilty

Nothing else to say other than love the guy, love the flicks, not guilty.
To be fair though, I have not seen cop out.
Nothing else to say other than love the guy, love the flicks, not guilty.
To be fair though, I have not seen cop out.
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1:14AM on 03/12/2013

Guilty

I don't mind his movies, but anytime I see him give an interview or just shooting the shite, it seems to me that he bought his own hype a little bit too much. I get the vibe of a snide prick anytime I see him open his mouth now. For this reason, GUILTY!

Red State was comendable.

Dug Clerks II and will be down for III.
I don't mind his movies, but anytime I see him give an interview or just shooting the shite, it seems to me that he bought his own hype a little bit too much. I get the vibe of a snide prick anytime I see him open his mouth now. For this reason, GUILTY!

Red State was comendable.

Dug Clerks II and will be down for III.
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1:14AM on 03/12/2013

Not Guilty

But he is certainly guilty of over hyping anything.
But he is certainly guilty of over hyping anything.
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12:45AM on 03/12/2013

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It's been hard to see my hero fall from grace so, well, gracelessly. He's very sensitive towards criticism as another commented below, and this resonates in what you can hear him reveal on Smodcast. I think this has lead him to do some pretty silly things, but deep down he's still a true lover of "movies" in the purest sense of the word. I feel that so long as you care for your art and its fans as he clearly does, you can never be guilty of disrespecting it as many guilty parties have been
It's been hard to see my hero fall from grace so, well, gracelessly. He's very sensitive towards criticism as another commented below, and this resonates in what you can hear him reveal on Smodcast. I think this has lead him to do some pretty silly things, but deep down he's still a true lover of "movies" in the purest sense of the word. I feel that so long as you care for your art and its fans as he clearly does, you can never be guilty of disrespecting it as many guilty parties have been ultimately accused. While he does belong in this column, he is by no means guilty. And for the record, Mallrats is awesome.
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12:26AM on 03/12/2013

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Smith's problem comes from an identity crises. He takes what his critics say too harshly (espically about him being a one trick pony), and he has tried several times to reinvent himself. He tried to ride the mainstream romantic comedy fade with Jersey Girl. He tried to ride the modern Apatow-ish comedy fade with Zack & Miri. He tried to be a serious Coen Brother-ish filmmaker with Red State.

He needs to just be himself, and write for himself and forget about the critics. Smith is at his
Smith's problem comes from an identity crises. He takes what his critics say too harshly (espically about him being a one trick pony), and he has tried several times to reinvent himself. He tried to ride the mainstream romantic comedy fade with Jersey Girl. He tried to ride the modern Apatow-ish comedy fade with Zack & Miri. He tried to be a serious Coen Brother-ish filmmaker with Red State.

He needs to just be himself, and write for himself and forget about the critics. Smith is at his purest with his Jersey Universe. He is no more a one trick pony than Woody Allen or Mel Brooks. I consider Dogma to be a great comedy, and a fun as hell adventure film. Jay & Silent Bob Strike back was a fantastic road trip movie. Clerks is a classic indy film. And Chasing Amy was a great Romantic Comedy. Smith has his own unique style, and he needs to embrace it and stop trying to be someone else.
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11:58PM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

for me anyways, i've liked way more of his movies than ive disliked, mallrats absolutely did not suck balls
Little Girl: [looking at a Magic Eye poster] Wow. It's a schooner.
Willam Black: Ha ha ha ha. You dumb bastard. It's not a schooner... it's a Sailboat.
Little Boy: A schooner IS a sailboat stupid head!
Willam Black: [becoming enraged] You know what? There is NO Easter Bunny! Over there, that's just a guy in a suit!

fucking awesome, while the newer ones like CopOut and Red
for me anyways, i've liked way more of his movies than ive disliked, mallrats absolutely did not suck balls
Little Girl: [looking at a Magic Eye poster] Wow. It's a schooner.
Willam Black: Ha ha ha ha. You dumb bastard. It's not a schooner... it's a Sailboat.
Little Boy: A schooner IS a sailboat stupid head!
Willam Black: [becoming enraged] You know what? There is NO Easter Bunny! Over there, that's just a guy in a suit!

fucking awesome, while the newer ones like CopOut and Red State havent been great i think his earlier movies like Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma and YES Mallrats more than make up for it
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11:28PM on 03/11/2013

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He needs to focus on what made him successful. I guess one hit wonder applys to movies these days. Because that's what he was.
He needs to focus on what made him successful. I guess one hit wonder applys to movies these days. Because that's what he was.
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11:25PM on 03/11/2013
I once loved Kevin Smith (bummed a smoke off him at the Netflix Rolling Roadshow screening of Clerks. Cool guy. I framed the cigarette.) But throw his ass in jail for a while. He's turned into a real DICK* over the past few years. Pun intended...
I once loved Kevin Smith (bummed a smoke off him at the Netflix Rolling Roadshow screening of Clerks. Cool guy. I framed the cigarette.) But throw his ass in jail for a while. He's turned into a real DICK* over the past few years. Pun intended...
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11:15PM on 03/11/2013

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of being a jerk.

First there was Red State. He didn't get a distributor for the movie. Instead he took it around the country and showed it to one audience at a time. Then there's Clerks 3: first he said it was going to be a book and then he said it was going to be a movie. Come on! He's movies just aren't that good. Why is he dicking his audience around like this?
of being a jerk.

First there was Red State. He didn't get a distributor for the movie. Instead he took it around the country and showed it to one audience at a time. Then there's Clerks 3: first he said it was going to be a book and then he said it was going to be a movie. Come on! He's movies just aren't that good. Why is he dicking his audience around like this?
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12:34PM on 03/12/2013
The movie didn't cost very much to make. He didn't want to blow 10x the budget of the movie on marketing. He thought it was a stupid waste of money, and he went indie with it. I say good for him. You guys complain all day about the studio system and how it's broken, and when one guy tries something new he gets knocked down?

Second: Clerks III wasn't up to him. Jeff (Randal) hadn't signed on yet, because he'd never been paid for Clerks II (a few of them hadn't, there was a big money-shifting
The movie didn't cost very much to make. He didn't want to blow 10x the budget of the movie on marketing. He thought it was a stupid waste of money, and he went indie with it. I say good for him. You guys complain all day about the studio system and how it's broken, and when one guy tries something new he gets knocked down?

Second: Clerks III wasn't up to him. Jeff (Randal) hadn't signed on yet, because he'd never been paid for Clerks II (a few of them hadn't, there was a big money-shifting problem). Smith always wanted to make Clerks III a movie. When he was worried he might not be able to make it without Randal, he was thinking of doing a book.

Talking out loud about possibilities isn't "dicking around his audience." It's trying to get the audience the product however he can.
10:17PM on 03/11/2013

NOT GUILTY

He's at his best when he writes about the characters we know and have grown to love. True, whenever he tries to show he can do other movies too he usually fails, but I will not send a man to movie jail that helped shape my love of movies in my teens and beyond.
Next week: Mike Myers or Jack Black
P.S. Can we agree that the GREEN rating is for NOT GUILTY and the RED ratings are for GUILTY, that way we can get an accurate readout on how the vote is going without reading every comment.
He's at his best when he writes about the characters we know and have grown to love. True, whenever he tries to show he can do other movies too he usually fails, but I will not send a man to movie jail that helped shape my love of movies in my teens and beyond.
Next week: Mike Myers or Jack Black
P.S. Can we agree that the GREEN rating is for NOT GUILTY and the RED ratings are for GUILTY, that way we can get an accurate readout on how the vote is going without reading every comment.
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9:36PM on 03/11/2013
He's had way more hits than misses in my book. Not Guilty! DOGMA is one of my favorite comedies and JAY & SILENT BOB is a guilty pleasure. In my opinion, he's only ever totally struck out with JERSEY GIRL and COP OUT and that's not enough for me to convict him.
He's had way more hits than misses in my book. Not Guilty! DOGMA is one of my favorite comedies and JAY & SILENT BOB is a guilty pleasure. In my opinion, he's only ever totally struck out with JERSEY GIRL and COP OUT and that's not enough for me to convict him.
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8:53PM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty
Not guilty
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8:22PM on 03/11/2013

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I don't think anyone has had 100 votes cast this far, which means Smith is a polarizing figure. I like more of his films than I dislike, even if his earliest work is his strongest, so I go not guilty.
I don't think anyone has had 100 votes cast this far, which means Smith is a polarizing figure. I like more of his films than I dislike, even if his earliest work is his strongest, so I go not guilty.
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8:00PM on 03/11/2013
Not Guilty.

Clerks II is hysterical, and Zack and Miri Make a Porno is funny enough to keep you entertained.

He has hbeen entertaining neough to make up for garbage like Cop Out, Red State, or Jay and Bob Strike Back.
Not Guilty.

Clerks II is hysterical, and Zack and Miri Make a Porno is funny enough to keep you entertained.

He has hbeen entertaining neough to make up for garbage like Cop Out, Red State, or Jay and Bob Strike Back.
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7:58PM on 03/11/2013

Nope!

Not guilty!
Not guilty!
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7:57PM on 03/11/2013

Nope!

Not guilty!
Not guilty!
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7:11PM on 03/11/2013

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I don't think he's done wrong by his fans (myself included). Cop Out was probably his worst movie, and it really wasn't "his", plus Bruce Willis decided to phone that one in.
I don't think he's done wrong by his fans (myself included). Cop Out was probably his worst movie, and it really wasn't "his", plus Bruce Willis decided to phone that one in.
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6:52PM on 03/11/2013

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Not guilty in total MR Smith Fashion WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK? WHY DID NO ONE MENTION DOGMA?? That is a brilliant film he made right after making a Gay Lesbian comedy. The man did not go to film school so sure some of his technique (or lack there of) can be attributed to that, however it's not like he's god awful behind there either.
You have to almost admire the guy for taking two stoners and turning them into a fucking empire! Jason Mewes just bought a house because of him and
Not guilty in total MR Smith Fashion WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK? WHY DID NO ONE MENTION DOGMA?? That is a brilliant film he made right after making a Gay Lesbian comedy. The man did not go to film school so sure some of his technique (or lack there of) can be attributed to that, however it's not like he's god awful behind there either.
You have to almost admire the guy for taking two stoners and turning them into a fucking empire! Jason Mewes just bought a house because of him and Kevin going around and talking about nonsense for an hour on stage about sex and fart jokes. So while yes Zack & Miri, Mall Rats, Cop Out, and Jersey Girl are disappointing he's given us CLASSICS! CLERKS 1 & 2, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, Chasing Amy, Dogma, and Red State are all very entertaining films that keep you interested in what is actually going on in the film and even his lackluster fair is better than most.

If he is to retire after CLERKS 3 good for him I always think of Kevin Smith as one of my favorite film makers and for that i will not fucking apologize!
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6:35PM on 03/11/2013

NOT GUILTY

I love Kevin Smith, I don't enjoy all his movies, but I think he is just a great down to earth, really a great speaker, and a huge influence to me.
I love Kevin Smith, I don't enjoy all his movies, but I think he is just a great down to earth, really a great speaker, and a huge influence to me.
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6:31PM on 03/11/2013

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Guilty as can be. A coward, a hypocrite and an all around lousy filmmaker. Can't retire soon enough.
Guilty as can be. A coward, a hypocrite and an all around lousy filmmaker. Can't retire soon enough.
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6:21PM on 03/11/2013

Exceptionally Not Guilty.

I haven't disliked a single Smith film. Even Cop Out had some laughs.
I haven't disliked a single Smith film. Even Cop Out had some laughs.
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6:20PM on 03/11/2013

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and Mall Rats is awesome. Hate it all you want because it wasn't Clerks, it's a great comedy on it's own merits.
and Mall Rats is awesome. Hate it all you want because it wasn't Clerks, it's a great comedy on it's own merits.
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6:10PM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty - Cop Out had a few moments but might be the only real lame duck imo. Each of his other flicks were all good and/or great. I do not care what anyone says, Jersey Girl was a good movie and I enjoyed the shit out of it.
Not guilty - Cop Out had a few moments but might be the only real lame duck imo. Each of his other flicks were all good and/or great. I do not care what anyone says, Jersey Girl was a good movie and I enjoyed the shit out of it.
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5:58PM on 03/11/2013
not guilty
not guilty
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5:19PM on 03/11/2013

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The only thing that gave me pause was Red State. I admire that he tried something different, even if it didn't work out completely. I would hold out hope for quality work but, come on, even things he does well are not high quality. He should have kept Clerks black/white to help hide his short comings as a filmmaker. Actually, I'm surprised he hasn't given up on directing (you know - really given it up) and just churned out screenplays for others.
The only thing that gave me pause was Red State. I admire that he tried something different, even if it didn't work out completely. I would hold out hope for quality work but, come on, even things he does well are not high quality. He should have kept Clerks black/white to help hide his short comings as a filmmaker. Actually, I'm surprised he hasn't given up on directing (you know - really given it up) and just churned out screenplays for others.
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4:58PM on 03/11/2013
I loved jay and salient bob strike bad .. though i do agree that every movie after that has been a stink bomb for him
I loved jay and salient bob strike bad .. though i do agree that every movie after that has been a stink bomb for him
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4:59PM on 03/11/2013
i say GUILTY !!
i say GUILTY !!
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4:47PM on 03/11/2013

You kidding? Not guilty.

Guy's got his duds, yeah, and he has proven to be a bit insufferable on the internet and whatnot. But he ain't on no bad streak. Clerks 2. Red State. These great films punctuate his last ten years of crap.

Never movie jail for the man who made such films as Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, etcetera.
Guy's got his duds, yeah, and he has proven to be a bit insufferable on the internet and whatnot. But he ain't on no bad streak. Clerks 2. Red State. These great films punctuate his last ten years of crap.

Never movie jail for the man who made such films as Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, etcetera.
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4:33PM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty.
Not guilty.
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4:23PM on 03/11/2013

Guilty.

For a lot of reasons. His movies have been terrible for a long time. Clerks is the only film that stands up over time. I actually liked Mallrats more than Chasing Amy, which I consider one of the more melodramatic and overrated films of the 90s. Going back to watch any of his filmography is an exercise in "fucking really?" "This was popular?" His films have gotten worse and worse as time goes on and now he is going back to the Clerks well again because he has nothing left that will gain any
For a lot of reasons. His movies have been terrible for a long time. Clerks is the only film that stands up over time. I actually liked Mallrats more than Chasing Amy, which I consider one of the more melodramatic and overrated films of the 90s. Going back to watch any of his filmography is an exercise in "fucking really?" "This was popular?" His films have gotten worse and worse as time goes on and now he is going back to the Clerks well again because he has nothing left that will gain any attention.

He has burned every bridge he has seemingly ever crossed. He comes off as a petulant, egomaniacal, self-aggrandizing prick. He throws hissy fits and and talks shit about colleagues and strangers alike. Basically he has become a male Kathy Griffin selling his stories of rubbing elbows with the famous and powerful to stay in any way relevant.

If you seriously think his retirement carries anymore weight than a standard Southwest airlines seat then you are delusional. Like auctioning his film to himself, it feels like just another publicity stunt. I don't understand why the guy is so bitter. He got pretty far on not a lot.
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4:19PM on 03/11/2013

Guilty.

Guilty.
Guilty.
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4:03PM on 03/11/2013

Ugh

NOT GUILTY just for saying Mall Rats is terrible, it is still my favorite of his movies, and I have liked all of them, I don't get the hate, let the guy make them they clearly have a small following but in my opinion there better than most of the garbage that comes out like Identity thief.
NOT GUILTY just for saying Mall Rats is terrible, it is still my favorite of his movies, and I have liked all of them, I don't get the hate, let the guy make them they clearly have a small following but in my opinion there better than most of the garbage that comes out like Identity thief.
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4:02PM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty!

I fucking loved 'Clerks', 'Chasing Amy', 'Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back', 'Dogma', and 'Clerks II'. 'Mall Rats' and 'Zack & Miri' were funny enough. 'Red State' was a cool experiment for Smith, and I enjoyed it for what it was.

In fact, the only two movies of Smith's that I didn't like was 'Jersey Girl' and 'Cop Out'.
I fucking loved 'Clerks', 'Chasing Amy', 'Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back', 'Dogma', and 'Clerks II'. 'Mall Rats' and 'Zack & Miri' were funny enough. 'Red State' was a cool experiment for Smith, and I enjoyed it for what it was.

In fact, the only two movies of Smith's that I didn't like was 'Jersey Girl' and 'Cop Out'.
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4:01PM on 03/11/2013
NOT GUILTY!! from his Comic Book Men to his live An Evening With Kevin Smith series to alllllllll the Smodcasting, the guy is still relevant. Albeit this is MOVIE JAIL, and he hasn't really made a movie i've absolutely LOVED since Dogma and Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, other than Red State, but that was sooo different and beyond anything I thought he'd ever do. movie-wise, COP OUT has been his only crime against hu-movie-ity. He's a different breed of dude. And if you haven't read his
NOT GUILTY!! from his Comic Book Men to his live An Evening With Kevin Smith series to alllllllll the Smodcasting, the guy is still relevant. Albeit this is MOVIE JAIL, and he hasn't really made a movie i've absolutely LOVED since Dogma and Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, other than Red State, but that was sooo different and beyond anything I thought he'd ever do. movie-wise, COP OUT has been his only crime against hu-movie-ity. He's a different breed of dude. And if you haven't read his SUPERMAN LIVES script, you should. snoooooogins! (btw, i liked jay when he's on drugs)
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3:54PM on 03/11/2013

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Chasing Amy, Dogma and Jay & Silent Bob are brilliant. Not caught much of his other stuff but the guy is a dude. I even liked him in Die Hard 4.0... Even if Bruce Willis didn't.
Chasing Amy, Dogma and Jay & Silent Bob are brilliant. Not caught much of his other stuff but the guy is a dude. I even liked him in Die Hard 4.0... Even if Bruce Willis didn't.
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3:45PM on 03/11/2013
NOT GUILTY
NOT GUILTY
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3:44PM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty Sir

Clerks, Mallrats and Dogma are gems. If you don't like Jay and Silent Bob or are getting tired of dick and fart jokes don't go to a movie called Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Clerks II was like hanging out with two old friends that you hadn't talked to in years and gave Dante & Randal a nice bit of closure...patiently waiting to see what Clerks 3 brings. I would argue that Red State wasn't a horror film. Personally I never got a horror vibe from the film at all it was just a drama to me, but
Clerks, Mallrats and Dogma are gems. If you don't like Jay and Silent Bob or are getting tired of dick and fart jokes don't go to a movie called Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Clerks II was like hanging out with two old friends that you hadn't talked to in years and gave Dante & Randal a nice bit of closure...patiently waiting to see what Clerks 3 brings. I would argue that Red State wasn't a horror film. Personally I never got a horror vibe from the film at all it was just a drama to me, but damned if it didn't have an entertaining final act and funny ending.

Overall you can't fault what Kevin Smith does. Tthis guy is constantly busting his ass for fans. He has a knack for telling stores in film & real life (check out An Evening with Kevin Smith). And a genuine love for the characters creates and the films he makes.
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3:42PM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty - he's always done things his way and while some of his more recent stuff hasn't hit home, he's still made some unique and fun movies.
Not guilty - he's always done things his way and while some of his more recent stuff hasn't hit home, he's still made some unique and fun movies.
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3:42PM on 03/11/2013

Guilty!

Firmly believe KS peaked with Chasing Amy (maybe Dogma). Since then, he seems to have slowly lost his ability to write interesting characters. It's like he got lazy. Now with this Clerks 3 b***sh*t it's he just sounds like an old hack. Go to jail and write something decent dammit!
Firmly believe KS peaked with Chasing Amy (maybe Dogma). Since then, he seems to have slowly lost his ability to write interesting characters. It's like he got lazy. Now with this Clerks 3 b***sh*t it's he just sounds like an old hack. Go to jail and write something decent dammit!
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3:28PM on 03/11/2013

Really? NOT FUCKING GUILTY!

So vocal minorities get pissy at Smith for being over-exposed lately and they hate on him for Cop-Out and Jersey Girl so he gets this crap ass article? I find it funny nobody hated on Mallrats, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back or Dogma until this inexplicable backlashed started a few years ago. Hell, Clerks 2 was mostly beloved by fans. This Smith hate needs to stop.
So vocal minorities get pissy at Smith for being over-exposed lately and they hate on him for Cop-Out and Jersey Girl so he gets this crap ass article? I find it funny nobody hated on Mallrats, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back or Dogma until this inexplicable backlashed started a few years ago. Hell, Clerks 2 was mostly beloved by fans. This Smith hate needs to stop.
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3:28PM on 03/11/2013

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If for no other reason that he needs to just shut the fuck up and make his movies. He is easily one of the most vocal directors when it comes to his "need" to defend his work. Its almost like its gotten to the point that he doesn't care that he does have fans out there and should worry about them and not what random reviewer McGee says about his films.

So many other directors/writers manage to make their stuff without whining so much regardless of if others think they are genius or crap.
If for no other reason that he needs to just shut the fuck up and make his movies. He is easily one of the most vocal directors when it comes to his "need" to defend his work. Its almost like its gotten to the point that he doesn't care that he does have fans out there and should worry about them and not what random reviewer McGee says about his films.

So many other directors/writers manage to make their stuff without whining so much regardless of if others think they are genius or crap.
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3:05PM on 03/11/2013

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I just don't get the hating on Mallrats. It was one of his best movies! Zack & Miri was way better than expected. Cop Out was trash. Red State was awesome. Clerks and Clerks II were great. Strike back was balls. He has given us more good than bad. No need to mention Jersey Girl. I think he just did that so he could kill Jennifer Lopez in some way.
I just don't get the hating on Mallrats. It was one of his best movies! Zack & Miri was way better than expected. Cop Out was trash. Red State was awesome. Clerks and Clerks II were great. Strike back was balls. He has given us more good than bad. No need to mention Jersey Girl. I think he just did that so he could kill Jennifer Lopez in some way.
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2:56PM on 03/11/2013

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Not Guilty, by a long shot.

You could make an argument for Jersey Girl sucking (and Cop Out isn't doing anyone any favors), but ALL of his other movies are at least entertaining. Saying Mallrats sucked means you have no soul. That movie has Stan the Man in a conversation about superhero dicks, and that was long before superheroes were as giant as they are now.

Kevin's a funny, down-to-Earth dude with an indie spirit. He's constantly trying new things, helping his friends, and keeping a
Not Guilty, by a long shot.

You could make an argument for Jersey Girl sucking (and Cop Out isn't doing anyone any favors), but ALL of his other movies are at least entertaining. Saying Mallrats sucked means you have no soul. That movie has Stan the Man in a conversation about superhero dicks, and that was long before superheroes were as giant as they are now.

Kevin's a funny, down-to-Earth dude with an indie spirit. He's constantly trying new things, helping his friends, and keeping a total line of communication open with his fanbase.
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2:52PM on 03/11/2013
Not Guilty!
Not Guilty!
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2:48PM on 03/11/2013
not guilty
not guilty
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2:46PM on 03/11/2013

Not guilty

The defense dropped the ball by not including Dogma, one of my favorite movies. His recent stuff is hit or miss, and to be fair I never got around to seeing Cop Out, but overall he's still entertaining.
The defense dropped the ball by not including Dogma, one of my favorite movies. His recent stuff is hit or miss, and to be fair I never got around to seeing Cop Out, but overall he's still entertaining.
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2:44PM on 03/11/2013

Guilty

Yep, guilty, guilty, guilty.
Yep, guilty, guilty, guilty.
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2:37PM on 03/11/2013

NOT GUILTY!

You just don't diss Mallrats man, also the prosecution didn't even say anything about Red State. So yeah....NOT GUILTY!!!!
You just don't diss Mallrats man, also the prosecution didn't even say anything about Red State. So yeah....NOT GUILTY!!!!
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2:23PM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

Love Kevin Smith and always will.
Love Kevin Smith and always will.
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2:16PM on 03/11/2013

This is a tough call

While I love the movies set in the "Jay and Silent Bob" Universe, I can't say the same for the others. Zack and Miri wasn't bad, but I think Kevin Smith should be guilty only until he learns his lesson, that he should just stick to what he makes best. I have high expectations for Clerks 3, don't let me down, Kev!
While I love the movies set in the "Jay and Silent Bob" Universe, I can't say the same for the others. Zack and Miri wasn't bad, but I think Kevin Smith should be guilty only until he learns his lesson, that he should just stick to what he makes best. I have high expectations for Clerks 3, don't let me down, Kev!
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2:08PM on 03/11/2013

GUILTY

Never liked this guy. Never liked his movies. I think he's highly overrated.
Never liked this guy. Never liked his movies. I think he's highly overrated.
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2:01PM on 03/11/2013

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Cop Out is his one horrible movie (I haven't seen Jersey Girl though), while the rest range from decent to great. I think Red State was underrated, Clerks 2 is hugely underappreciated, the original Clerks is one of my favorite movies of all-time and some of his out-there comedies like Jay and Silent Bob or Dogma are still pretty entertaining, even if they get too insane at some points.
Cop Out is his one horrible movie (I haven't seen Jersey Girl though), while the rest range from decent to great. I think Red State was underrated, Clerks 2 is hugely underappreciated, the original Clerks is one of my favorite movies of all-time and some of his out-there comedies like Jay and Silent Bob or Dogma are still pretty entertaining, even if they get too insane at some points.
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1:46PM on 03/11/2013

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I'm not gonna jail someone who brought us Jay and Silent Bob. Cmon.
I'm not gonna jail someone who brought us Jay and Silent Bob. Cmon.
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1:45PM on 03/11/2013

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I used to like him. But I re watched most of his movies a few weeks ago and except for the first Clerks and Chasing Amy I really didnt enjoy them at all. Specially Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which I found hilarious when it first came out, now it was pretty lame. I think Red State is quite a good movie except for the last few minutes. The resolution is quite intriguing, but the execution was lame, but hands down to Michael Parks for a terrific performance!
I used to like him. But I re watched most of his movies a few weeks ago and except for the first Clerks and Chasing Amy I really didnt enjoy them at all. Specially Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which I found hilarious when it first came out, now it was pretty lame. I think Red State is quite a good movie except for the last few minutes. The resolution is quite intriguing, but the execution was lame, but hands down to Michael Parks for a terrific performance!
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1:41PM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty...I loved jay and silent bob, clerks II, and MAllrats..he gets a lot of shit because of his mouth which is understandable..but I love the guy
Not guilty...I loved jay and silent bob, clerks II, and MAllrats..he gets a lot of shit because of his mouth which is understandable..but I love the guy
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1:35PM on 03/11/2013

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Looking forward to Clerks 3 and know the man still has some good movies in him. Comic Book Men is awesome too.
Looking forward to Clerks 3 and know the man still has some good movies in him. Comic Book Men is awesome too.
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1:32PM on 03/11/2013

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Really enjoyed Red State, which is the only thing in the last decade he's made that swayed my vote. Clerks, mall rats, clerks II to a much lesser extent were decent comedies. I could pass on everything else he's done.
Really enjoyed Red State, which is the only thing in the last decade he's made that swayed my vote. Clerks, mall rats, clerks II to a much lesser extent were decent comedies. I could pass on everything else he's done.
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1:34PM on 03/11/2013
Oh, and I liked the idea of Dogma
Oh, and I liked the idea of Dogma
1:15PM on 03/11/2013

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Excluding 'Cop Out', which is awful but he didn't write, I at least admired, if not outright enjoy all his movies. They have all been done on his own terms, and if you watch his films in order, you see a progression from a bland director (point and shoot style of filmmaking of 'Clerks', which admittedly works well for that) to the intense editing and cinematography of 'Red State' (not stating it worked or didn't work). Since one can see him trying to grow and expand as a filmmaker, which means
Excluding 'Cop Out', which is awful but he didn't write, I at least admired, if not outright enjoy all his movies. They have all been done on his own terms, and if you watch his films in order, you see a progression from a bland director (point and shoot style of filmmaking of 'Clerks', which admittedly works well for that) to the intense editing and cinematography of 'Red State' (not stating it worked or didn't work). Since one can see him trying to grow and expand as a filmmaker, which means he's not guilty.
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1:01PM on 03/11/2013

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The only Smith film I didn't actually enjoy, at least on some level, was Cop Out. Jersey girl wasn't great but it was OK and certainly isn't what I would call criminally bad. As for the Mallrats hates, that was the first of his films I saw and I loved it. It made me go out and watch the rest of his films. So for those of you who hate it, I have one question for you. Would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
The only Smith film I didn't actually enjoy, at least on some level, was Cop Out. Jersey girl wasn't great but it was OK and certainly isn't what I would call criminally bad. As for the Mallrats hates, that was the first of his films I saw and I loved it. It made me go out and watch the rest of his films. So for those of you who hate it, I have one question for you. Would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
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12:51PM on 03/11/2013

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. My first Kevin Smith experience was Dogma. It came out right when I was graduating from a catholic elementary school and preparing to go into a catholic high school. I was questioning a lot of things about religion at the time, and this movie opened more questions for me regarding that particular topic. However, what really makes it stick for me is how it made it seem ok for a thirteen year-old like me to question big issues like religion and feel okay about it. It was an eye-opener. From
. My first Kevin Smith experience was Dogma. It came out right when I was graduating from a catholic elementary school and preparing to go into a catholic high school. I was questioning a lot of things about religion at the time, and this movie opened more questions for me regarding that particular topic. However, what really makes it stick for me is how it made it seem ok for a thirteen year-old like me to question big issues like religion and feel okay about it. It was an eye-opener. From then on, I became a Kevin Smith fan and still claim to be one....even if my views of his most recent films are not incredibly favorable.

His early movies, up to and including Dogma, are my absolute favorites (fuck anyone who says Mallrats isn't funny because it is). His next four are quite tedious (Jay & Silent Bob, Jersey Girl and Clerks 2, Zach & Miri), with some good and bad mixed into the two. But he really "lost" me with Cop Out and Red State. I get Cop Out was not written by him, but to quote Kevin himself, "did someone's cousin write that script because it was horrendous." Red State just did not grab me like I had hoped It would; it never rose to the level where I was expecting it to just shock and awe me.

I think he's found his calling with podcasting. I remember all his Evening with DVDs and thought that I could listen to him ramble on about shit for hours, so these are really fun to listen to at work. I saw him last summer with Ralph Garmon doing Hollywood Babble-on and it was pretty funny. Fatman on Batman is very informative, but that's really due to the guests he has on mostly.

In the end, I don't have the greatest of hopes for Clerks 3 (or Hit Somebody, in whatever format it comes out), but all around body of work-wise, he is not guilty for me.
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12:38PM on 03/11/2013

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Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, Chasing Amy are classics in my opinion and I enjoyed Jersey Girl alot too. I think he is a really good filmmaker and I love his realistic dialogue, situations, and characters in each one of his films (except for Cop Out) and I love how involved he is with his work and with his fans from throughout the years.

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Clerks, Mallrats, Dogma, Chasing Amy are classics in my opinion and I enjoyed Jersey Girl alot too. I think he is a really good filmmaker and I love his realistic dialogue, situations, and characters in each one of his films (except for Cop Out) and I love how involved he is with his work and with his fans from throughout the years.

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12:33PM on 03/11/2013

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All the man wants to do is live to his own beat, and people on the internet feel he owes them something. Let the man make his Hockey miniseries and Clerks 3 and then let him live the rest of his life making podcasts, comics, and the occasional bit of TV.

And he didn't "unretire" for Clerks 3, he said he's got one movie left in him. And what movie it was has changed is all, the hockey thing was what he wanted to go out on, and then that became a miniseries leaving him a spot for "last film"
All the man wants to do is live to his own beat, and people on the internet feel he owes them something. Let the man make his Hockey miniseries and Clerks 3 and then let him live the rest of his life making podcasts, comics, and the occasional bit of TV.

And he didn't "unretire" for Clerks 3, he said he's got one movie left in him. And what movie it was has changed is all, the hockey thing was what he wanted to go out on, and then that became a miniseries leaving him a spot for "last film" and it felt right for it be Clerks 3.
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12:07PM on 03/11/2013

If Anyone is Guilty . . .

It would be me. My humor has changed and, unfortunately for me, what made me laugh in the 90s doesn't always make me laugh now. I'd say that "Clerks" and "Chasing Amy" have longevity with me, but the others have played the roles they were intended to.

While it seems that bashing Kevin Smith is the "new thing," I've got mad respect for him and what he has contributed to the film industry. Who am I to tell him to hang it up? What have I done in my life that warrants me bashing a man who is
It would be me. My humor has changed and, unfortunately for me, what made me laugh in the 90s doesn't always make me laugh now. I'd say that "Clerks" and "Chasing Amy" have longevity with me, but the others have played the roles they were intended to.

While it seems that bashing Kevin Smith is the "new thing," I've got mad respect for him and what he has contributed to the film industry. Who am I to tell him to hang it up? What have I done in my life that warrants me bashing a man who is living out his dream? If everyone had as many "original" and "superior" ideas as they claim to have, perhaps the bashing would be warranted . . . but again, seeing is believing. If it's not your cup of tea . . . refrain from supporting it. It's a pretty simple concept.
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12:05PM on 03/11/2013

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But let him do his podcasts from Jail.
But let him do his podcasts from Jail.
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12:02PM on 03/11/2013

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Other than The Clerks and Mallrats his career is quite sad. And Mallrats was 18 years ago. Now he just makes downright awful movies and complains about everyone and everything. He is truly sad. Guilty!!!!
Other than The Clerks and Mallrats his career is quite sad. And Mallrats was 18 years ago. Now he just makes downright awful movies and complains about everyone and everything. He is truly sad. Guilty!!!!
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11:56AM on 03/11/2013

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Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
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11:40AM on 03/11/2013

For a Good Time Call

he's got a great cameo in "For a Good Time Call". It's about 2 roommates who set up their own phone sex line and Kevin Smith cameos as a caller and its pretty funny. (Seth Rogen's cameo is also great) the movie is so-so but i love when Smith does cameos like that. He also did a great one in "Fan-Boys"
he's got a great cameo in "For a Good Time Call". It's about 2 roommates who set up their own phone sex line and Kevin Smith cameos as a caller and its pretty funny. (Seth Rogen's cameo is also great) the movie is so-so but i love when Smith does cameos like that. He also did a great one in "Fan-Boys"
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11:39AM on 03/11/2013

Mallrats

"Likewise, Mallrats still sucks balls like it did back in the day."
Huh? Mallrats is hilarious.

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"Likewise, Mallrats still sucks balls like it did back in the day."
Huh? Mallrats is hilarious.

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11:37AM on 03/11/2013
Huh? Why, exactly, is Kevin Smith up for movie jail? As near as I can tell, the majority of what he's made has been a success aiming for what it was aiming for. Firstly, I've never heard anyone who enjoys Kevin Smith movies say that Mallrats sucks. It's apart of the same line of humor and entertainment as any other Jay and Silent Bob featuring film and is just as funny. Likewise, I've never heard a fan complain about Strike Back. Once again, it fits right in with any other of his View Askew
Huh? Why, exactly, is Kevin Smith up for movie jail? As near as I can tell, the majority of what he's made has been a success aiming for what it was aiming for. Firstly, I've never heard anyone who enjoys Kevin Smith movies say that Mallrats sucks. It's apart of the same line of humor and entertainment as any other Jay and Silent Bob featuring film and is just as funny. Likewise, I've never heard a fan complain about Strike Back. Once again, it fits right in with any other of his View Askew films. Some of the choices for this section I find strange, and this is one of them. I'd like to think this space is reserved for washed up has beens, and I'd hardly call Smith a washed up has been. Heck, the man gets credit alone for pulling out of directing before his career's hit a low. It just seems really silly to target Smith for movie jail when his influence is so obvious and he has yet to lose steam in the industry.
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11:36AM on 03/11/2013
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Sure, his later career has not been as good as his early but he has still had critical and commercial hits. For what it was, I thought Red State was great. Although, I do think Clerks III is bad idea.
Not guilty
Sure, his later career has not been as good as his early but he has still had critical and commercial hits. For what it was, I thought Red State was great. Although, I do think Clerks III is bad idea.
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11:35AM on 03/11/2013

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he ranges from hit indie film maker to forgettable comedy director. I'm from the same area as him, so his movies hit particularly well with me seeing as i drove past Holden and Banky's apartment just this morning. More so than i think Sam Raimi does he inspire young film makers to produce low budget films on their terms, with out having to pander to the benefactors. He proves that a voice creative and original enough will shine for people willing to see.

Yes he has become almost bi-polar
he ranges from hit indie film maker to forgettable comedy director. I'm from the same area as him, so his movies hit particularly well with me seeing as i drove past Holden and Banky's apartment just this morning. More so than i think Sam Raimi does he inspire young film makers to produce low budget films on their terms, with out having to pander to the benefactors. He proves that a voice creative and original enough will shine for people willing to see.

Yes he has become almost bi-polar with his personal life and intentions on where his career is going, but what he has physically accomplished has been pretty good. Cop Out may not have been good but i dont think it was bad, Clerks 2 was nowhere near as iconic or original as the first, but still made me laugh my head off. I hope that Clerks 3 will be his swan song, or at least hearken in a time of reform for him and goes back to low budget. Clerks is still one of the greatest movies ever made with under $20,000 and Chasing Amy is one of the best romantic comedies of all time. Not guilty

Next defendant: Ivan Reitman
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11:35AM on 03/11/2013

Mallrats

"Likewise, Mallrats still sucks balls like it did back in the day."
Huh? Mallrats is hilarious.

Not Guilty!
"Likewise, Mallrats still sucks balls like it did back in the day."
Huh? Mallrats is hilarious.

Not Guilty!
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11:34AM on 03/11/2013
Guilty. Just a one-trick pony who's become irrelevant in the last few years. Also blows a lot of hot air, but had nothing to show for it.
Guilty. Just a one-trick pony who's become irrelevant in the last few years. Also blows a lot of hot air, but had nothing to show for it.
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11:33AM on 03/11/2013
Guilty as all hell!!
Guilty as all hell!!
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11:33AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty!!!

Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
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11:29AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

Clerks 2 shouldn't be in the prosecution's case, it was a great movie. I would put him on probation though, mainly due to his childish antics (his feud with that critic over Clerks 2 and the whole "buying y own movie for a dollar at an auction I organized for distributors" debacle for Red State)...
Clerks 2 shouldn't be in the prosecution's case, it was a great movie. I would put him on probation though, mainly due to his childish antics (his feud with that critic over Clerks 2 and the whole "buying y own movie for a dollar at an auction I organized for distributors" debacle for Red State)...
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3:03PM on 03/11/2013
That wasn't childish antics - that was P.T. Barnun fireworks. It was dramatic, sure, but that was the point: he was trying to draw media attention to it.

People see it as a dick move, but it was just marketing.
That wasn't childish antics - that was P.T. Barnun fireworks. It was dramatic, sure, but that was the point: he was trying to draw media attention to it.

People see it as a dick move, but it was just marketing.
11:24AM on 03/11/2013

Not guilty

Loved red state, clerks 2 and zack and miri.
My only recommendation: stop retiring and unretiring
Loved red state, clerks 2 and zack and miri.
My only recommendation: stop retiring and unretiring
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11:22AM on 03/11/2013

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I personally like most of his work .some people- specially on the internets and movie sites dedicated to film- dont get that the dude only interest is storytelling being on movies, tv, comics ,podcast or whatever.
So he might not make any more movies, fine, but sure as hell he'll keep telling stories.
I personally like most of his work .some people- specially on the internets and movie sites dedicated to film- dont get that the dude only interest is storytelling being on movies, tv, comics ,podcast or whatever.
So he might not make any more movies, fine, but sure as hell he'll keep telling stories.
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11:20AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

He was railroaded and marginalized by the Hollywood elite. And besides - he's already sentenced himself, by retiring from movie making. No point kicking him now.
He was railroaded and marginalized by the Hollywood elite. And besides - he's already sentenced himself, by retiring from movie making. No point kicking him now.
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11:19AM on 03/11/2013

Guilty

He made some solid movies in the 1990's but his schtick has gotten stale. He simply lacks the training and the ability to function outside of the View Askewniverse: he lost control of COP OUT and RED STATE failed as a (self-admitted) Tarantino homage. He's more celebrity than filmmaker now.
He made some solid movies in the 1990's but his schtick has gotten stale. He simply lacks the training and the ability to function outside of the View Askewniverse: he lost control of COP OUT and RED STATE failed as a (self-admitted) Tarantino homage. He's more celebrity than filmmaker now.
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11:18AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty!!!

Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
Am I the only one who likes "Jersey Girl"?
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11:16AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

Smith has had a bad run of late, but his work in the past is too good for his recent pile to turn him guilty.
Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are all some of my favorite movies. Clerks II also had its moments.

I think if guilty, he should get a suspended sentence or time already served (a run of bad movies is already punishment). If Clerks III is bad, re-open the case.
Smith has had a bad run of late, but his work in the past is too good for his recent pile to turn him guilty.
Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are all some of my favorite movies. Clerks II also had its moments.

I think if guilty, he should get a suspended sentence or time already served (a run of bad movies is already punishment). If Clerks III is bad, re-open the case.
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11:11AM on 03/11/2013

not guilty

clerks 1+2, mallrats, chasing amy, dogma, jay and silent bob and red state range from great to average in my opinion he has made one terrible film and two i dont care for. so the good outweighs the bad. the clerks cartoon is also pretty good.
clerks 1+2, mallrats, chasing amy, dogma, jay and silent bob and red state range from great to average in my opinion he has made one terrible film and two i dont care for. so the good outweighs the bad. the clerks cartoon is also pretty good.
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11:10AM on 03/11/2013

Not guilty

Never felt bored watching his films.yet to see Red state
Never felt bored watching his films.yet to see Red state
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11:10AM on 03/11/2013

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I'm blown away that MALLRATS, CLERKS 2 and JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK are part of the prosecution. Very funny movies and I love his work when he sticks with the genre of knows best. He's only made two "kinda-crappy" movies in my opinion and they were COP OUT and JERSEY GIRLS.
I'm blown away that MALLRATS, CLERKS 2 and JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK are part of the prosecution. Very funny movies and I love his work when he sticks with the genre of knows best. He's only made two "kinda-crappy" movies in my opinion and they were COP OUT and JERSEY GIRLS.
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10:54AM on 03/11/2013

GUILTY!!

Lock him up, throw away the key, and let him become the boy toy of some huge palooka named Butch.
Lock him up, throw away the key, and let him become the boy toy of some huge palooka named Butch.
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10:52AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

Smith has created some of the best characters and movies in the last 20 years, his dialogue can be quoted for miles, and he's a really nice dude. His ONE shit movie was Cop Out, but how could it not be shitty when it's star was a total douchebag to work with? Mallrats isn't on par with Smith's other films, but that was because the studio was fucking with him on nearly every decision he made. Zack & Miri and Red State were original works by Smith, but they were also all new stories, new
Smith has created some of the best characters and movies in the last 20 years, his dialogue can be quoted for miles, and he's a really nice dude. His ONE shit movie was Cop Out, but how could it not be shitty when it's star was a total douchebag to work with? Mallrats isn't on par with Smith's other films, but that was because the studio was fucking with him on nearly every decision he made. Zack & Miri and Red State were original works by Smith, but they were also all new stories, new characters and not what Smith normally does. Personally, I loved Red State (10/10) and Sack and Miri was a lot of fun too (8/10). My favorites are Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and Chasing Amy. Definitely Not Guilty.
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10:45AM on 03/11/2013

guilty

Guilty. Love the podcasts but the dude isn't a good filmmaker anymore. He admits this himself all the time. Give him a light sentencing though. His movies have been great but they have steadily declined and he "has nothing more to say", again his own words. Movie jail is to get people to stop making movies because they're not good at it anymore, and this is the case for him. Yes, he has made great movies, but no, I don't think he will make any more.
Guilty. Love the podcasts but the dude isn't a good filmmaker anymore. He admits this himself all the time. Give him a light sentencing though. His movies have been great but they have steadily declined and he "has nothing more to say", again his own words. Movie jail is to get people to stop making movies because they're not good at it anymore, and this is the case for him. Yes, he has made great movies, but no, I don't think he will make any more.
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10:23AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

I'm going with not guilty. His movies are obviously not for everyone as the sense of humor involved is fairly specialized and I recognize that he has had hits and misses but very few directors only produce gold. For me he has had more entertaining movies than flops and if nothing else I must commend him for the approach he has to not only his fans but sticking to the process that he wants. I see it similar to musicians that try to make records off labels after their run at fame. Like we did it
I'm going with not guilty. His movies are obviously not for everyone as the sense of humor involved is fairly specialized and I recognize that he has had hits and misses but very few directors only produce gold. For me he has had more entertaining movies than flops and if nothing else I must commend him for the approach he has to not only his fans but sticking to the process that he wants. I see it similar to musicians that try to make records off labels after their run at fame. Like we did it your way and now we have the capital to do it our way and directly to the fans. I feel Smith does this and tries not to get sucked into the monster of Hollywood process. So I digress and return to the original point with Not Guilty.
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10:21AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

J&SB Strike Back was horrible, but Dogma more than makes up for it. (How come that movie wasn't mentioned?) Plus I could listen to Kevin Smith confabulate on various subjects for hours.

Next: Looks like my usual suggestion of John Woo isn't getting much traction, so how about Angelina Jolie?
J&SB Strike Back was horrible, but Dogma more than makes up for it. (How come that movie wasn't mentioned?) Plus I could listen to Kevin Smith confabulate on various subjects for hours.

Next: Looks like my usual suggestion of John Woo isn't getting much traction, so how about Angelina Jolie?
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10:16AM on 03/11/2013

I'm going to vote guilty...

At first I thought this came too late. But the fact that he's forestalling his retirement makes him fair game though. To be fair, there was a big period between "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" (a movie that is WAY too mainstream feeling for his brand, and signature characters) and "Red State" (a decent effort considering it's not his usual forte) that I didn't watch this guy's movies. His movies can be good, and absolutely terrible. As a speaker he's not half-bad. But it's become more clear
At first I thought this came too late. But the fact that he's forestalling his retirement makes him fair game though. To be fair, there was a big period between "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" (a movie that is WAY too mainstream feeling for his brand, and signature characters) and "Red State" (a decent effort considering it's not his usual forte) that I didn't watch this guy's movies. His movies can be good, and absolutely terrible. As a speaker he's not half-bad. But it's become more clear over the years that his movies are a continuous monologue about his own obsessions. Sex, dick jokes, pop culture, not always in that order. I've got a lot of respect for the man for inspiring a generation, but even moreso for giving his friends a shot at the title with View Askew releases. But at this point, speaking from outside that Kevin Smith die-hard circle, the man is doing everything he can to destroy the good will he's garnered over the years. Is "Hit Somebody" actually happening? Is it a two-part movie or a mini-series? Does anybody really care? I thought he was done with his Jay and Silent Bob characters after Clerks II. And before shooting even starts he says it's the best thing he's ever done? Sorry, Mr. Smith, I don't believe you. The man has a habit of making promises to his fans and not delivering. If he could just hold his tongue I'd have a bit more respect for the man.

Now feel free to thumb me down.
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10:07AM on 03/11/2013

not guilty

I like the movies he makes & well except the movie Cop Out speaks for itself so no need to defend it LOL. PLus the guy clearly is passionate about comics & Star Wars, he is a true fanboy,

ON a side note I was really surprised by the love Keanu Reeves received last week. Been a fan for years & glad other fellow schmoes showed it as well
I like the movies he makes & well except the movie Cop Out speaks for itself so no need to defend it LOL. PLus the guy clearly is passionate about comics & Star Wars, he is a true fanboy,

ON a side note I was really surprised by the love Keanu Reeves received last week. Been a fan for years & glad other fellow schmoes showed it as well
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10:03AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

This guy made me laugh so hard through my teens, 20's, and 30's... with the exception of Cop Out... his movies have heart.
This guy made me laugh so hard through my teens, 20's, and 30's... with the exception of Cop Out... his movies have heart.
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10:01AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

Not Guilty
Not Guilty
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10:00AM on 03/11/2013
Not guilty. It's just my personal opinion but my only Prosecution movie will be Cop Out. Mallrats is funny. Jersey Girl isn't that bad. If you want bad Ben Affleck's movie, go with Gigli. For the sake of comparison, Jersey Girl is much better. Overall for Kevin Smith, not guilty.
Not guilty. It's just my personal opinion but my only Prosecution movie will be Cop Out. Mallrats is funny. Jersey Girl isn't that bad. If you want bad Ben Affleck's movie, go with Gigli. For the sake of comparison, Jersey Girl is much better. Overall for Kevin Smith, not guilty.
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10:00AM on 03/11/2013
Seriously? Not guilty.
Seriously? Not guilty.
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9:54AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

His missteps are minor at best. Mallrats may not be a critically adored darling, and the same goes for Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back!, and Red State, but when he hits his target, its dead on hillarious (Clerks and Clerks II, Chasing Amy, Dogma which wasn't mentioned once int his article, and Zack and Miri Make A Porno)
His missteps are minor at best. Mallrats may not be a critically adored darling, and the same goes for Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back!, and Red State, but when he hits his target, its dead on hillarious (Clerks and Clerks II, Chasing Amy, Dogma which wasn't mentioned once int his article, and Zack and Miri Make A Porno)
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9:46AM on 03/11/2013

bravo

GREAT PICK FOR THIS WEEK!

This is tough, I loved Jay and Silent bob, Chasing Amy, Clerks 1-2, and thought Dogma was one of the best films ever. But Zach and Miri was awful, Cop Out was unbearable and Jersey Girl... Need I say more. But I gotta say not guilty for the sole reason of he created 2 of my favorite characters (Dante and Randal, I could listen to them talk all day) and the goods he's made outweigh the bads as of now. Although I do agree that he's bought way too much into his own
GREAT PICK FOR THIS WEEK!

This is tough, I loved Jay and Silent bob, Chasing Amy, Clerks 1-2, and thought Dogma was one of the best films ever. But Zach and Miri was awful, Cop Out was unbearable and Jersey Girl... Need I say more. But I gotta say not guilty for the sole reason of he created 2 of my favorite characters (Dante and Randal, I could listen to them talk all day) and the goods he's made outweigh the bads as of now. Although I do agree that he's bought way too much into his own hype. He's kinda a dick but he's still not guilty.
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9:46AM on 03/11/2013

GUILTY

Mostly bad body of work and even the stuff I liked is starting to age poorly....

And if we had a personality jail? GUILTY. Snot-nosed, condescending douche. Amateur film maker but EXPERT at bashing the work of far superior talent...
Mostly bad body of work and even the stuff I liked is starting to age poorly....

And if we had a personality jail? GUILTY. Snot-nosed, condescending douche. Amateur film maker but EXPERT at bashing the work of far superior talent...
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9:45AM on 03/11/2013

guilty

The fact that he has to hire people to enter his comic shop for his 'reality' show, alone makes him guilty. That, and he seems perpetually stuck in the early 90's.

Oh, and you forgot to add Dogma to the Prosecution's case.
The fact that he has to hire people to enter his comic shop for his 'reality' show, alone makes him guilty. That, and he seems perpetually stuck in the early 90's.

Oh, and you forgot to add Dogma to the Prosecution's case.
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10:04AM on 03/11/2013
3 of the 4 people on that show have been employees for years and I thought his film career was on trial, not television.
3 of the 4 people on that show have been employees for years and I thought his film career was on trial, not television.
11:27AM on 03/11/2013
I did judge him on his film career, but his tv show is fair game as well as anything else he does in the media.

As for the comment about his workers...I wasn't talking about his workers. I'm talking about the customers on his show. Smith is on record saying that they put out ads for the show for people to bring stuff into his store. They screen these people, and then film them as 'spontaneous' customers. His show was maybe stereotypical of comic book stores 20-25 years ago, now it's just
I did judge him on his film career, but his tv show is fair game as well as anything else he does in the media.

As for the comment about his workers...I wasn't talking about his workers. I'm talking about the customers on his show. Smith is on record saying that they put out ads for the show for people to bring stuff into his store. They screen these people, and then film them as 'spontaneous' customers. His show was maybe stereotypical of comic book stores 20-25 years ago, now it's just insulting to those of us that have actually been in a comic store within the last 10 years.
1:18PM on 03/11/2013
Moron.
Moron.
2:11PM on 03/11/2013
I'm embarrassed that you're actually insulted on how comic book stores are perceived on that show.
I'm embarrassed that you're actually insulted on how comic book stores are perceived on that show.
3:07PM on 03/11/2013
Dude, that's how EVERY reality show works. You're living in a fantasy land if you think otherwise.

He's just honest about it.
Dude, that's how EVERY reality show works. You're living in a fantasy land if you think otherwise.

He's just honest about it.
3:23PM on 03/11/2013
I've owned a comic book store in a previous life, and it was never as repellent as what we see in Comic Book men. The store owners I know and still keep in touch with, all feel the same way; Kevin Smith's show actually hurts the comic book store industry by showing a shitty stereotype that hasn't existed in 20 years.

@TheSoloist, at least I'm not the dickhead that has that abortion called Green Lantern up as my avatar. Your taste in movies is as questionable as your gender.
I've owned a comic book store in a previous life, and it was never as repellent as what we see in Comic Book men. The store owners I know and still keep in touch with, all feel the same way; Kevin Smith's show actually hurts the comic book store industry by showing a shitty stereotype that hasn't existed in 20 years.

@TheSoloist, at least I'm not the dickhead that has that abortion called Green Lantern up as my avatar. Your taste in movies is as questionable as your gender.
9:41AM on 03/11/2013

NOT GUILTY

That's is all.
That's is all.
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9:39AM on 03/11/2013

This column is really hurting isn't it?

Not guilty. His worst movie is "Cop Out" by far and he didn't even write it. People give him shit because he keeps changing his mind about Clerks III, but what does it matter until he actually puts something out? "Clerks II" is solid by the way and shouldn't be part of the prosecution.
Not guilty. His worst movie is "Cop Out" by far and he didn't even write it. People give him shit because he keeps changing his mind about Clerks III, but what does it matter until he actually puts something out? "Clerks II" is solid by the way and shouldn't be part of the prosecution.
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This column is really hurting isn't it?

Not guilty. His worst movie is "Cop Out" by far and he didn't even write it. People give him shit because he keeps changing his mind about Clerks III, but what does it matter until he actually puts something out? "Clerks II" is solid by the way and shouldn't be part of the prosecution.
Not guilty. His worst movie is "Cop Out" by far and he didn't even write it. People give him shit because he keeps changing his mind about Clerks III, but what does it matter until he actually puts something out? "Clerks II" is solid by the way and shouldn't be part of the prosecution.
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9:37AM on 03/11/2013

Not Guilty

He's irritatingly obsessed with self-promotion and has probably bought into too much of his own hype and fandom, but I wouldn't Movie Jail the guy for the simple fact that he tries his damnedest to do things his own way, so even if I don't always like what he does or how he goes about it, at least he's trying to do what he loves without selling his soul. You could accuse him of being a one (or two) trick pony, but within his own range he's made some decent movies over the years. So he's
He's irritatingly obsessed with self-promotion and has probably bought into too much of his own hype and fandom, but I wouldn't Movie Jail the guy for the simple fact that he tries his damnedest to do things his own way, so even if I don't always like what he does or how he goes about it, at least he's trying to do what he loves without selling his soul. You could accuse him of being a one (or two) trick pony, but within his own range he's made some decent movies over the years. So he's definitely an annoying douchebag (from my perspective - he's one of the few people I've ever un-followed on Twitter because he just fills up your feed with self-serving crap) but he's always had potential to surprise and entertain, and when he hits the mark he's pretty damn good. So not perfect, but not guilty.
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9:39AM on 03/11/2013
Well put.
Well put.
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